“Three Plays” The Whole Preseason
August 27th, 2013
You can get a great feel for Mike Williams’ sense of humor by listening to this audio below, via 620wdae.com.
Williams, who Joe talked to after this take below, did everything he could today to advise media to let Bucs fans know they shouldn’t worry about the Bucs offense. The preseason offense is so vanilla, Williams said, that it’s just not worth the scrutiny.
If the offense is this bad against the Jets, then by all means complain, Williams said.
August 27th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
I agree with Williams….be patient….don’t panic….we will be fine on offense and our defense has definately improved. I would defy anyone who argues that….at least on paper. I know we have to show it on the field and we will. The only problem is our tough schedule.
Take a look at who left vs. who we added….for the exception of Barth….we have improved. And, some of the younger players like Johnson, Martin, Barron & David have gained a ton of experience.
We will be just fine!!!
August 27th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
Ha I’m with MW. I’ve been smh and laughing at the negative comments all preseason long. I even called it silliness.
August 27th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
Okay wait ….I thought the sky was falling …
August 27th, 2013 at 4:20 pm
For a team that is bad at selling tickets, the last thing they need to do is sand bag the preseason games. To excite the fanbase you must do something exciting on the field for fans to see.
August 27th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
@Buc 1987
Could call me Buc 1976…..but can you believe all of the whining and hand wringing over every minor detail of camp and these meaningless games….the only important thing is that we have only lost Barth for the season & that wasn’t even a football injury.
Watch them all change after we deliver the expected a$$ whipping on the Jets.
Revis’ presence on the field will make a world of difference in our defense….it will make everyone else feel like & play like studs. I can’t wait for a few unecessary roughness penalties from Barron & Goldson.
And….Buc Realist…if you are out there.. Get ready because the “Pop Star” will get the credit.
By the way, Buc Realist….keep in mind that I’m not one of those who calls you an idiot!!!
August 27th, 2013 at 4:30 pm
I’ve been saying this (which is obvious) for, I don’t know how long.
Schiano just isn’t going to tip his hand.
That said, we still have some OL protection issues that need some correction.
August 27th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
@ tampabaybucfan …then they will say we haven’t beat the Saints yet….then they will say we haven’t beat the Pats yet….on and on …crybabies always cry about something…. Of course the offense will be vanilla.. I would rather win Reg season games then pre season …call me crazy I guess …lol
August 27th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
I guess people are just going to have learn how secretive of a guy Schiano actually is. He was the same way at Rutgers. It drove NFL scouts, agents and the media crazy. It also drove Buc fans crazy all summer long.
tampabaybucfan…that’s why I have their comments on file. People tend to have a short memory if you say to them. Remember what you said back in preseason?
Then they say. I never said that. Well I have file full of proof, to prove it.
August 27th, 2013 at 4:46 pm
@raphael dumb bucs fans are the only people in the world to utter the words “must win preseason game”
August 27th, 2013 at 4:46 pm
it’s not the vanilla that worries me.
it’s the fact they can’t even execute the vanilla. whether that’s the QB, WR, O line or play calling. The only bright spot has been the new RB’s.
If they can’t do vanilla…how the heck are we supposed to buy that they can do rocky road or butter pecan?
August 27th, 2013 at 4:47 pm
Hey…..I’m not saying that we’re the greatest…but I am saying that we are getting better and have a chance. If you look at last year, there was a very fine line between an outstanding and a losing season. Several of our games could have gone our way. Hopefully, we will suprise some teams this year.
I agree that Schiano is very understated when it comes to his decriptions of players and playmaking.
Or would you rather have Raheem…”We are the best team in the NFC”….How’s that working out for ya, RAHEEM?
August 27th, 2013 at 4:51 pm
If you are only running 3 plays, why can’t the ball go to the right spot?? I really want to believe we have nothing to worry about, I really want to believe the Bucs are going to have a killer season. But if you are only running 3 plays and VJ curls in and Josh throws out, isn’t that a cause for concern? And when Ogletree and Williams are in the same area where Free throws the ball, aren’t those “miscommunications” cause for concern? And, because I want to believe, I did not even bring up the fact the O-line can’t block, bc I know everyone is going to be healthy in 12 days and we are going to be on fire. And the other teams we play in preseason are running their entire playbook, bc we are smarter than all the other coaches. We have everybody faked out. They don’t stand a chance…
August 27th, 2013 at 4:58 pm
@bucfanjeff,so schianno is just not going to tip his hand,that’s great!So maybe you can explain why there are so many teams looking like they are in mid-season form,I guess their coaches are tipping their hands,boy they must be IDIOTS hah? NOTTTT!!!!You guys crack me up with all your excuses.6-10 and free(wo)mans GONE!!!!
August 27th, 2013 at 4:59 pm
^^ Exactly Harry! Vanilla is one thing, which it’s obviously cause Schiano is playing his hand very close. It’s the drops, the reads, lack of communication bewteen Free and his W/R, and pass protection being horrible!
Thats where the “panic” is coming from.
August 27th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
Four total plays… those three plus a run. Genius.
August 27th, 2013 at 5:02 pm
Buc 1987……please copy Harry & paste it for him after we paste the Jets.
Harry…relax, I know its easy to be skeptical when you are a Bucs fan…but it feels so much better to be happy & ignorant like those of us who hope you are wrong.
And…Buc Realist…please remember that I’m not one of those who calls you an idiot!!!
August 27th, 2013 at 5:09 pm
Makes no sense to give up our offensive plays especially since we play our last two opponents in the regular season just to sell tickets when thats not really how they much the most profit anyway….the local media is in panic mode more than fans, they could easily be the reason people arent buying tickets and the reason this game is blacked out….especially from ex players, its just embarrassing to hear your team get killed for games that mean nothing, games teams hardly plan for, its an evalutation of talent period….It would be pretty sad if freeman needed to play the majority of snaps in the preseason, he’s a 5th year pro. too bad your just gonna have to wait until game one to watch us shine
August 27th, 2013 at 5:12 pm
Buc1987
are you ok? i mean seriously do you really think the bucs are the only one hiding their offense and defensive schemes….why would you telegraph your playbook to the patriots when you practiced against them for a week then played them in a preseason or the dolphins when you play them both in the regular season…let the jets look at game film from last year to scout what kind of team we have
August 27th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
The “selling tickets” remark is so outdated. Joe has said, on more than one occasion, that the money from ticket sales is pennies in comparison to to the mega TV contracts.
This season is going to be great. I hope people are able to get past there annoying need to constantly complain so they can actually enjoy it.
August 27th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
no one has mentioned doug martin’s name or even revis…people WANT to see him play but not that worried, i personally like the idea of teams not knowing if revis is healthy or not so if that means hide it from our own media then so be it…never seen so much panic over preseason games..first team looked good in game one against the ravens but well we dont play them
August 27th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
I see, it’s the old “make them think we couldn’t catch MRSA if we licked the floor of One Big Place, then they won’t cover us as tightly in the regular season.” Hey, maybe it worked at Rutgers.
August 27th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
Amen MW!
August 27th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
I would rather my team sand bag the preseason than to worry about ticket sales. It shows their priorities.
August 27th, 2013 at 5:22 pm
Trust me….the Tampa Bay Buccaneers will be an entirely different team when Darrelle Revis steps on the field.
Even Myron Lewis would have played better with Revis by his side.
And it will help our offense when the D gets the ball back for them and doesn’t give up huge early leads.
August 27th, 2013 at 5:22 pm
Ok, Mike, sounds good.
Anytime you step on the field, vanilla or not, it is all about executing?
Joe-
Tomorrow with Big Dog, please talk about his comparison of Freeman and Glennon, and discuss their college WRs. Jordy Nelson was with Freeman, and Glennon has who that is pro/pro prospect?
Please discuss the 8-8 prediction, and ask Deumig why he was not in favor of Freeman bein drafted nor Glennon? Who would be his QB?
August 27th, 2013 at 5:23 pm
really? the rutgers thing is kinda old. that has nothing to do with what happens on the field….two players dont make or break a season especially if one is a kicker, josh needs to come with it this year. i want 7 points not 3. never heard anyone in preseason say a team wont make the playoffs because their kicker is done for the season. carl nicks has a big contract but he isnt the key to our offense as you can see by doug martins rushing total last year
August 27th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
buc4lyfe …wtf are you talking about? I’m the one that has been saying all preseason long that Schiano is not going to show his cards.
August 27th, 2013 at 6:03 pm
Did anyone ever take into consideration, that the plays they have been showing in preseason are the plays they have trouble executing in practice?
August 27th, 2013 at 6:07 pm
@tampabaybucfan, lol, I agree with you, ignorance is bliss! I want to believe, really I do. And when Revis and Nicks get on the field with our other Pro Bowlers (8?), I know we will look better than we have. It is just discouraging that “5” AND his receivers look like s*&t. I am not of the mind that it is all Josh, especially not with the drops, and lack of coaching continuity he has had. But I thought this might be his year.
For your others that are “slightly” beyond the ‘ignorance is bliss’, we can put you in the category of ‘ignorance, alcohol and drugs is bliss’
August 27th, 2013 at 6:10 pm
I mean why would you show the plays you have down pat? Freeman overthrowing certain recievers on a play, is probably the same thing he does in practice on that play 15 times a day. Overthrows them. The plays that he’s spot on in practice were not put on display during preseason. It is a possibility.
August 27th, 2013 at 6:28 pm
My bad Buc1987 i should be working instead of trying to hang out on joebucsfan…. i said the same thing you said
August 27th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
@buc4lyfe….we have some delusional clowns on here who think that only what they say is the world authority, that nobody else can think that way (only them), and they will crybaby police thread nazi the fn heck out of you if you dont kiss the ground, er forum, they type on,…and god forbid if you make him mad enough to come out of hiding…he’ll beat you to death with his large file of “copy paste”….oooohhh, soooooo scary, lol.
August 27th, 2013 at 6:49 pm
Do you really expect Williams to say anything other than what he said? Lol
Some of you act like he would willingly sit here and tell you that he doesnt believe in the QB or the offense if that is really how he felt. Comical.
August 27th, 2013 at 7:06 pm
We really need to come out with a “W” in week one at the Jets.
The offense should be looking on point, especially in comparison to the Jets.
We need to be the better team that Sunday. There is no way around it. How are you going to win 10 of your next 15 games to make to the playoffs if you lose to the Jets.
We need to come out, offense especially, firing on all cylinders. If we see more of the preseason Buc’s starting offense, than the fans will be very concerned to say the least.
August 27th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
I dont think we need to come out firing in order to beat the Jets. We simply need to win. Week 2 is a different story though.
August 27th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
@ Stevek …one thing the jets have is a defense, I think we will win but Ryan will throw everything at Josh…and he will win the game
August 27th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
The O was awesome last year! Best offense any of us Bucs fans have ever seen, EVER!! No one can argue that! I am not worried about the offense. 10-11 wins this year. The D will be in complete sync by week 3. You heard it hear first!
August 27th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
A lot of Doomsday preppers on today as usual. Just like the sad sacks that sit behind me @ RJ stadium. Complain when anyone stands & cheers then complain again when things aren’t going well. Some people aren’t happy unless they have things to complain about…..That’s sad!
August 27th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
@Couch Fan
Are you insinuating that Mike doesn’t think Freeman can get the job done?
August 27th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
@Couch Fan
Nevermind, you meant that even if he did, he’d never publicly say it.
August 27th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
If you can’t run three plays right, how confident should I be when you open your whole playbook?
August 27th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
I would troll reporters all year long if I was Mike or any other Buc for thar matter.
August 27th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
You guys do realize that the plays they run are basically all option routes which change depending on the coverage, right? So Just because you see an overthrow by Josh doesn’t mean its his fault. It could just be him and the receiver not seeing/thinking the same thing. I.E.: receiver runs a 1st down route vs single coverage Josh throws the deep/TD route vs single coverage. No one really is to blame. They just saw something different. I’m not even going to address the dropped passes and missed blocks. Relax its only preseason. I’m pretty sure none of you guys think the Lions are going to dominate Tom Brady and the pats come regular season. Since i know how fondly most of you guys worship them.
August 27th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
On a side note, that beard would distract the hell out of me if I had to cover Mike. Hopefully, it works on NFL corners too lol
August 27th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
buc4lyfe …We have a lot of ignorant dumb fans that make stupid statements and predictions, then when the season comes along and they are proven wrong they will never admit it. That’s why people like me are going to hold them accountable for their stupidity, by copy and pasting their stupidity for a later date. Trust me when I say the file is full of BS comments. We’ll soon find out who the dumb ones are.
We also have a particular person who says he will just skip over my posts whenever he sees them, but always fails follow through.
August 27th, 2013 at 8:25 pm
Bucnjim …..that’s sadly the Bucs fan base. I know one thing if your in my section. You better be loud when we are on D. I’m calling people out for it this season. I don’t care if the Bucs are ahead by 20 points in the 4th or down 20 points in the 4th when our D is on the field my section is going to be loud. I’ve already made that proclamation to most of them during the Ravens game. There will be no quiet fans in my section. They pay all that money and just sit there with their hands in their laps. Quiet like it’s a golf tourney or something. I encourage anyone else that goes to the games this season to do the same. There are nice ways of letting fans know that they need to be loud. I will try the nice approach first. Then I’ll try the funny approach,I’ll put my hands together and beg them to be loud. Then I’ll just imitate them and make them look silly. Oh it’s going to be loud in my section. I’ll be going this thursday too, I’ll be reminding them again as well. Come Sept 15th that they have to be loud. No more BS!
August 27th, 2013 at 9:01 pm
@Joe D – agreed..
Mike is my kinda dude. Love how he’s mockin the pen & mic club and the drama queen fans.
I for one think they got play #2 locked down. Its plays 1 & 3 that need a little fine-tuning..
August 27th, 2013 at 10:46 pm
@Joe D at the VA
Yes there are option routes for the receivers in this offense. The QB and receivers must see the same thing, and make the same decisions. We get it…
The problem is that now that Mike Will has admitted that they’ve only used three plays is really worrisome. Additionally, even if they both ARE on the same page, how accurate is Freeman to even deliver the ball?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Qj8ZfxQps6I
August 27th, 2013 at 11:24 pm
^^^that my friend is rubbish made to hype up Glennon for nothing good try though random bucfan pewter bullion.
Let me counter with this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAscI-la2Ow
August 27th, 2013 at 11:29 pm
The difference between my video is that yes it was 2010 Freeman REGULAR season. Yours is preseason.
Well then let’s drop a 2012 REGULAR season youtube video link then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20O5gtEM_Zo
August 27th, 2013 at 11:40 pm
They used 3 plays for a reason. Those reasons have been stated by numerous people throughout the thread. I am glad that you took the time to make that youtube video though. Maybe you can show it to Schiano and Sully and convince them to start Glennon soon. It’s obvious that they can’t see it and you can.
August 28th, 2013 at 4:26 am
@Pewter Bullion
I see where you’re coming from. I’m pretty sure Josh has let a few passes sail, and that’s not a good thing, but at least he’s not throwing int’s. That would worry me more than a few over/under throws. It is a little discouraging that they haven’t gotten the 3 plays down pat yet. I dont disagree with you on that. I just try to look at the whole picture. Because with option routes it’s completely possible(and most likely) that even if they run the same exact play its not going to be the same exact play. Just a different variation of the same play. One play call ran 3 times in a row could result in 3 totally different routes for every receiver. I’m not saying that every pass play in the playbook is full of options, but if your only running 3 plays I’m sure there are at least 3-5 rout tree combinations to go with them.
August 28th, 2013 at 4:38 am
I don’t always post in here, but I just got to say that I enjoy all of the feedback and opinions of you guys in here. The passion is unmatched lol. I agree with some of you guys’ opinions more than others of course, but I love the debate nonetheless. I’m a biased ass fan though. I believe we’re going to make the playoffs at the beginning of EVERY season *shrug*. That’s why you’ll almost never see me bashing a Bucs player…too much blind faith in my guys. Anyone can win on any given Sunday. LETS GO BUCS!! #PlayoffBound #YeaISaidIt
August 28th, 2013 at 9:14 am
Find something on me last year 1987…you wont. I was upset with josh’s freefall after looking so good just like a lot of people, but I wasnt completely down on my Bucs. First year under a rookie nfl coach, secondary in dire straits, it was understood.
this year, the secondary should be better, now we just need pass rush to get going. Hopefully our O line hangs in there, and once again we have a valuable running game. Now if all of those pieces fall into place, and Josh gets back to playing lights out, then all is well with me. If he doesnt, I’ll have an opinion, then you’ll misconstrue my opinion as usual, claim I hate Joash and that Im pulling for him to suck so we can start Glennon, or that Im pulling for the whole team to suck so we can pick higher in the draft.
Thought you said you were going away…and you didnt…so bleh, back at you.
August 28th, 2013 at 9:18 am
1987….”I know one thing if your in my section. You better be loud when we are on D. I’m calling people out for it this season. I don’t care if the Bucs are ahead by 20 points in the 4th or down 20 points in the 4th when our D is on the field my section is going to be loud. I’ve already made that proclamation to most of them during the Ravens game. There will be no quiet fans in my section”.
Man I feel sorry for any family and friends you have, they must be walking on eggshells around you, you’re a serious control freak.