“Taking A Backseat” Is Not Glennon’s Mindset
May 17th, 2013
The New Schiano Order said it wanted competition for Josh Freeman and now it’s got a guy that isn’t taking a backup mindset.
Rookie third-round pick Mike Glennon talks a good game and isn’t viewing himself as a backup quarterback, so he explained on Movin’ The Chains on SiriusXM Radio yesterday. Co-host Pat Kirwan went fishing for Glennon’s mindset and came away impressed.
Pat Kirwan: It’s easy for some [quarterbacks] that go to places where they might already be considered the starter. How do you establish yourself where you are? Do you take a backseat and kind of keep your ears and eyes open and your mouth closed? Do you try to take charge and get some receivers together outside the realm of club activities and do things throwing the ball?
Mike Glennon: First I just want to be a good teammate. I’m going to be a good teammate to all the guys, to the quarterbacks, to the line, to everybody. And earn the respect that way and kinda take everything in and listen to what they have to say. But at the same time, I don’t know if taking a backseat would be the right term because I’m a competitor and I’m going to do whatever I can to compete. So at the same time, though, I understand I’m a rookie and it’s a process, and I’m just going to worry about getting better each and every day and let things play out that way.
Joe knows every great backup quarterback must approach everything like he’s the starter. There’s really no other way to do it successfully.
So it’s great to hear Glennon already is dialed in to getting after every inch of his opportunity. He wouldn’t be competition for Freeman if he wasn’t thinking that way.
May 17th, 2013 at 10:07 am
This has to be the most anticipated preseason in Bucs history. Schiano saying we’ll see a lot of Glennon will be a huge topic as well as seeing so many of our core players coming back from injury. That’s not even mentioning the biggest storyline, Revis and our new revised secondary..im getting more and more depressed as I write this realizing that it’s only May.
May 17th, 2013 at 10:29 am
Any truth to the rumor that they have installed the side wall of a barn at One Buc Palace for target practice? 🙂
May 17th, 2013 at 10:42 am
he will be starting by week 5
May 17th, 2013 at 10:44 am
OMG look at all those multi-syllable words. Can someone translate for The Moron?
May 17th, 2013 at 11:08 am
@robert – only if Freeman’s hurt.
The Bucs need to see as much of Glennon as possible to get him up to speed as a backup. If he’s starting, something with our season has gone horribly wrong, may that be Freeman or otherwise.
May 17th, 2013 at 11:11 am
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I see 2 losses there. If it ends up being 3 losses they will yank freeman. as long as the D does not blatantly lose those games.
May 17th, 2013 at 11:20 am
Gawd!!
Even his frickin head is skinny!!
This guy ought to get an endorsement contract for toothpicks!!!
May 17th, 2013 at 11:21 am
Or meybe pipe cleaners!
No way this guy can play in the NFL!!!
May 17th, 2013 at 11:23 am
I just found out that Glennon can’t line up in a shotgun formation.
The ball keeps knocking him down.
May 17th, 2013 at 11:31 am
^^This is your brain on drugs.
May 17th, 2013 at 11:43 am
Glennon may never make it as a starter, or he may be take over for Freeman sooner rather than later. We can let that sort out in practice and games.
But, one thing I am sure of, is that his weight won’t be an issue either way.
May 17th, 2013 at 11:54 am
Waste of 3rd round pick. You look at this kid and can tell he’s a bum who doesn’t have NFL body. Freeman is the guy plan and simple.
May 17th, 2013 at 11:58 am
If by week 12 were out of the playoff race and josh is struggling glennon will be out starter for the rest of the season…. Also god forbid we suck major a$$ next year and we get the number one pick im curious to hear what some other diehard buc fans would want to do with that selection jadeveon clowney? Teddy Bridgewater? Jonny football.
May 17th, 2013 at 12:17 pm
Wow!! Capt. Tim, Your all over Freeman jock. You should call your self Capt. Dick!!
I can’t wait to read your post after Freeman is benched..
May 17th, 2013 at 12:29 pm
Wow…this is like reading posts by dumb and dumber.
May 17th, 2013 at 12:30 pm
JJ your clearly clueless.
May 17th, 2013 at 12:37 pm
I hope all the people that are insulting Glennon, whom have probably never met him, are the same ones who were insulting McCoy for two years. That only means good things for him then. Fans are so fickle. He’s already branded a “bum” without playing a down because of his body type? He seemed to have played all the way through college without falling apart. Give the kid a chance.
May 17th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
I predict this kid is going to be a star. Rifle arm, 6’6″ tall, intelligent, not afraid to stand in the pocket and not afraid to pull the trigger on a tight window, especially when the DB has his back turned. Freeman better have his A game this year because once Glennon starts it will be hard for Josh to win the job back.
May 17th, 2013 at 1:17 pm
I’ll give the kid a chance, don’t care that he’s so skinny a tornado could throw him through a tree trunk like a piece of straw. However, I’m still not sold on the pick we used. 3rd round may have been where the team put his value, they may have figured he’s better than every other QB in this year’s draft, but with the team near completely assembled and serious depth concerns at positions that have endured injury in previous years, I think there were better options for this year.
Fact is this… If Glennon starts this year, we have failed building this team as is. Last year was not all Freeman’s fault (only two games out of 16 were really bad by him). If he has 14 decent games this year, and the defense holds up it’s end of the deal, there is no way Glennon sees the field. If the defense doesn’t hold up, and Freeman is pulled for Glennon because we’re losing or out of the playoffs, my question is this … “Is Glennon a better starting QB for this team than Manziel, Bridgewater, Fales, etc. would be next year?”. Personally, I don’t think he has near the talent that several of them have and a failure this year would put is in prime position to grab one of them next year. So, why waste the pick this year for a guy that’s not as talented as a guy we’re guaranteed to get next year if this season is a failure?
We had much better options at DE (Damontre Moore) than Gholston, at DT than Spence (John Jenkins, although I like the Spence pick), and RT than Dotson (Armstead). Any of those could have addressed pressing depth at key positions for THIS year.
However, now that Glennon is our pick, I hope he does well. I have no doubt he will be a better backup than Orlovsky, simply based on arm strength. Glennon can actually make those deep throws that Freeman can. I honestly hope he never sees the field except in preseason and mop up duty, because if he does then we have failed… this year.
May 17th, 2013 at 1:19 pm
Another concern… with Glennon on the roster, if this season is a failure and we do play Glennon, it becomes much less likely we actually go get one of the better, more talented QBs next year, because we already have Glennon. We may miss out on one of the best QB classes to come out of college since the Elway/Marino/Kelly class of the early 80’s.
May 17th, 2013 at 1:27 pm
After these past 3 decades could the Bucs finally have found that gifted QB that has evaded them for so long… It would be a massive relief…. But if he can’t even beat out JF then he must not be that good… Time will tell!
Hoping MG is good enough of a QB that the coaches are consistantly thinking O-MG!
May 17th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
I don’t get it…people think we blew it on picking a QB in rd 3 because we lack depth at other positions. So….you’re saying we we’re just flush at depth in the QB position????? QB>any other position…period. We needed a quality backup that fits our system. Glennon can make all the same throws Freeman can and arguably may be more consistent, only time will tell. I feel much better knowing that if Josn goes down we have a kid that can push the ball down field to V-Jax or Williams and can actually make the short throws accurately too. He’s not a scrambler but he’s not afraid to move up in the pocket and throw knowing he’s going to take a hit. I like everything I’ve seen of this kid. Big, big arm. Tall as Freeman. Smarter. What’s not to like? Oh…I forgot…he’s not built like a LB. Geez…what a stupid argument that is. He hardly looks fragile to me.
May 17th, 2013 at 1:53 pm
Next years QB crop is marginally better than this years, and much worse than last years. Last year was the year to get a QB. Next year a D-Lineman is almost a guarantee to go #1. Speaks to the QB class, and of course, to Jadaveon’s unique-ness.
May 17th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
So basically Freeman needs 2 yrs minimum under the Sullivan to master the scheme but Glennon’s gonna do it by week 6? I doubt it. Glennon’s got a great attitude but has a lot of learning and even some growing to do.
May 17th, 2013 at 2:17 pm
BamBam:
Agreed. If Glennon plays a significant amount of snaps this year, that means either Josh Freeman is playing horribly and got benched, or Freeman is hurt. The best chance of the Bucs making the postseason is if Freeman can turn the corner; not playing a rookie quarterback taken in the third round.
The Bucs don’t have the defense of years past when they can reach the playoffs (especially in a loaded conference like the NFC is now) despite having a lummox at quarterback (Trent Dilfer).
May 17th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
Again, I couldn’t care less about his build. So, he’s skinny, so what? Facts are facts though, we lack depth at positions that have a history of injury. Take a look…. last year both Nicks and Joseph go down on O-line. In 2010, we had a horribly patchwork O-line. Faine, Joseph, Trueblood all went down. D-line has had GMC, Clayborn, and Bowers all with injuries. Freeman hasn’t missed a play due to injury. I’m not worried about Free going down, it’s much less likely to happen with his size and mobility and a healthy, deep O-line, plus a good run game to keep pressure off. Is Free inconsistent? If you wanna say that two bad games near the end of the season is inconsistent, I’ll say the best offense for the month of October and one of the top QBs into early November says he was pretty consistent for most of the season. He’s had a significant number of come from behind victories in his career, so he’s shown he can throw the team on his back from time to time, but he can’t carry them a whole season. So, he’s not Peyton Manning. Those guys come along very few and far between. The rest of the teams have to have complete teams to win.
The Ravens didn’t win on the back of Flacco, they had a whole team. Rice running, a very good D, etc. The 49ers made it, but they had Gore and a solid D, they even changed QBs half way through the season. Kaep didn’t carry the team, the team made it as a team. The Steelers haven’t won because of Big Ben, they had a great D to help. Even the great Tom Brady has had some pretty good D’s to further his cause. We have a decent QB with the ability to make things happen, strong arm to get the ball downfield, a solid run game and the makings of a pretty solid D. But injury history dictates we should solidify depth at those positions before backing up a QB with a guy from a pretty poor draft class of QBs, expecially when there was so much talent and depth at other positions available to us. We could have drafted a starter on D-line or a rotational player on D-line that would actually see the field rather than an average QB in a below average QB draft class that should probably ride the pine holding a clip board the entire season and never see the field. Anyone hoping he sees the field is basically hoping the team is horrible and throws the backup QB in praying for a miracle. We’re too close to want miracles, we need to make it happen, and having capable backups at positions that have needed capable backups in recent history is more important than a backup at a position that should be fine this year.
May 17th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
Bobby Says:
May 17th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
“I don’t get it…people think we blew it on picking a QB in rd 3 because we lack depth at other positions. So….you’re saying we we’re just flush at depth in the QB position?????”
I can only speak for myself, but here’s the difference so far as I’m concerned…
Injury History.
QB has been healthy, and remained healthy for years. Having good depth there IS important, but having depth where the injuries seem to occur more often is more important.
Defensive Tackle was not only a complete hole in one spot, but our other spot has had only one healthy year in three.
On Offensive Line, injuries hurt us last year as well. In fact, as a result, there were times when our starting QB got crushed.
We had three glaring needs going into the draft. CB, DT & OLB. All of which needed starters. Yes, depth is good, but you need starters first.
Banks was the best pick. After that, things went downhill, except for the DE…who was at least understandable given the injury history at DE.
May 17th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
Mark it down here. This guy will be our QB of the future.
May 17th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
Thank you Bam Bam, that was the most reasonable post I have seen here in a while…in regard to the QB situation anyway.
May 17th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
And holy Christ- he’s got no thigh muscles! I bet his knees bend backwards! Those legs would look skinny on an stork!
And he’s gonna have to have a single digit number!
His chest would barely hold the number “One”. A double digit would wrap half way around his back!! He’d half to spin around, everytime he made a play- just so you could read his number!!
When goes hunting, he just glues a few leaves on his arms. He stands in the open, with his arms stretched out. Deer walk right by him.
They think he’s a sapling!
May 17th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
He’ll never have a deep thigh bruise- that’s for sure!!
May 17th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
Man! Just look at that picture! His neck and his head are the same diameter! Can’t tell where neck stop, and head starts!
Kinda like a pencil eraser! He ought to hang out with Underwood. He kinda has that eraser thing going on too!
May 17th, 2013 at 4:32 pm
Here’s why your logic is flawed BuccaneerBonzai…We got through last year with a patchwork O-line and still managed to set records with Martin and Freeman. You can plug someone into the D-line and O-line and get reasonable results. Now, IF Freeman goes down and you plug in Orlofsky it’s game over. I don’t give a crap if you’ve got your entire team healthy. Having a quality backup is a major concern and that’s why they got Glennon in the 3rd. You have to realize…they don’t think a ‘healthy’ Freeman is a sure bet to get the job done. They like Glennon. He has all the tools to be a franchise QB regardless of what the couch GM’s on here think. They don’t want to wait until next year to develop a QB if Freeman doesn’t work this year. They will have Glennon with a year in the system under his belt. Makes perfect sense.
May 17th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
Capt Tim
Thank you for a those insightful comments, unless you look like Mr. Olympia you might want to keep your yap shut, your coming across as rather infantile.
May the best man win the QB job, I think that’s all that needs to be said.
May 17th, 2013 at 4:54 pm
@MR.T…if you think that was infantile, wait until he replies to your post…
May 17th, 2013 at 5:50 pm
And his arms look like q-tips!
And some of you idiots think this scrawny, mediocre college QB is gonna be some kind of Savior. At least you are predictable. Every time any team drafts some Kate round scrub QB, or signs some career underachiever- there is always an uprising amongst the clueless- clamoring to start some mediocre nobody- and claiming he will suddenly turn into the messiah!! Even though every tape on the guy proves he is raw and unproven!
Joe predicted your lil ” we love The Backup” movement, even before they drafted Glennon.
It didn’t matter which mid round QB prospect the Bucs drafted. Not one bit.
Some talking head somewhere would be quoted as saying ” that kid has talent!”- and the unwashed masses would- on Que- begin proclaiming him the the great savior for the franchise!
There are people proclaiming him the starter!
A third rounder! In a horrible draft class! Who wasn’t impressive in college! And has never throw a pass in an NFL game! The starter!! Lmao!!
It’s hard to believe how predicable certain kinds of people are. You just know what you are going to do- no matter which QB we drafted. And it’s funny as hell how whiny you are” don’t talk bad about mike!!”
Either way- he is the scrawniest kid ice ever seen, trying to play in the NFL!
The damn kickers could beat him up, and take his lunch money!
He’s not gonna be able to last long- get your photos taken now.
But make sure he isn’t turned sideways- you won’t be able to see him!!
Lol!
May 17th, 2013 at 6:12 pm
Bobby,
Here’s the flaw with your thinking… “They don’t want to wait until next year to develop a QB if Freeman doesn’t work this year. They will have Glennon with a year in the system under his belt. Makes perfect sense.”
Well, sure that makes perfect sense. Assuming we still have the same OC and HC next year that we do this year. He (Glennon) fits their style and scheme. However, if Josh fails this year and Glennon comes in… odds are we see a change in OC, at the very least, maybe at HC. If the team fails with all the money we’ve spent the past two seasons, it’s highly unlikely the full coaching staff stays intact. A new OC will probably have a new scheme, so a year in this scheme serves no real purpose for Glennon and he may not be very well suited for whatever scheme we have next year. It’s highly likely that one of the QBs available next year would be better suited for whatever new system we have, because they could draft a guy next year to fit that system.
On the other hand, if Freeman succeeds this year, then Glennon is a backup that we spent a 3rd round pick on when we had other needs. Even if Free is exceptional this year, but we don’t make the playoffs because of injury and lack of depth at another position, Free will remain the starter and Glennon will be the backup. The only way Glennon is the next “Franchise” QB is if Freeman falters BADLY in the first quarter of the season and Glennon comes in and leads us to the playoffs. Then Glennon is the starter and the staff jobs are safe to keep the same system.
Guys like Russell Wilson and Tom Brady just don’t happen very often. More often than not, the QBs that are franchise guys were considered franchise guys before the draft. None of the QBs in this draft were highly touted as franchise guys. Not Geno Smith, EJ Manuel, Matt Barkley. Definitely not Glennon. If he happens to be that guy, I’d be amazed. Everything I’ve seen has left too many question marks. I’ve watched multiple game videos of Glennon (not highlight videos) where they show every offensive passing down in a game. Glennon is not pinpoint accurate on short throws, he threw many in the dirt. He’s not pinpoint on long throws either, multiple times I saw him completely overthrow a wide open WR deep. I’m no scout or expert, but what I saw was not much different than what we see Freeman do in the NFL, except that Freeman is in the NFL, doing that against NFL level competition.
Truth is Josh Freeman needs to improve, but he has shown ability many times to be a very good NFL level QB. Glennon hasn’t had any opportunities to show anything at the NFL level, but what he did at the college level wasn’t any better than what Freeman does at the NFL level. That draws huge red flags with me. College isn’t anywhere near the talent level of the NFL, Glennon should have been tearing it up if he’s supposed to be so good. He didn’t, at least in my eyes. We’ll see, I wish nothing against Glennon. I just want my Bucs to succeed, and in my eyes that means seeing Freeman take it up a notch and play more consistently at the high level we’ve seen him play at the NFL level.
May 17th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
Bambam- well said! I hope Glennon becomes a great Qb!
But he has a looong way to go! He’s jumpy in the pocket, locks on Recievers, doesn’t go thru his progressions, and is immobile.
And he has to work on that sad, frail body!!
NC State didn’t have a weight room?? Christ!
I hope he can take great strides, and someday becomes a starting QB!
But to think he can do that now, is hilariously funny!!!
Mike Glennon is NOT Andrew Luck or RG3!
May 17th, 2013 at 10:15 pm
Capt. Tim,
Mike Glennon reminds me of a very young Brad Johnson in his first years of college.
May 17th, 2013 at 10:24 pm
Hmmm let’s see…so big thighs and no brain is preferable to thin and intelligent?
May 18th, 2013 at 2:47 am
Why is everyone saying Glennon is so intelligent??? Both Glennon and Freeman carried a 3.1 GPA in undergraduate studies. Glennon only improved to a 3.8 when he entered the Master program which was basically a sports management program. That’s like applauding a concert pianist for playing chopsticks, or a college math professor for scoring a 95 out of 100 on a basic Algebra test. As for “apples to apples”, both had a 3.1 GPA, Freeman had a higher Wonderlic score (not that the Wonderlic is a real basis for anything).
So, would I rather have a semi-intelligent QB that has ALL the tools, including athleticism over a semi-intelligent QB that has MOST of the tools…. I’ll take the athletic QB that also has a huge head start as a QB in the NFL over the QB that has NO NFL experience and no mobility (at least that’s what I’ve seen in video of him, as well as read from multiple, well-respected college scouting sites)
May 18th, 2013 at 6:12 am
As Larry the Cable Guy would say, “Now that was funny stuff right there.” Thank you Capt. Tim for injecting a little humor into the bare posterior of our constantly pouting fans. Any truth to the rumor that your shipmate Capt. Fear announced that he finally found his “sunken chest” when he saw Glennon at his rookie introduction? Fans have always predicted QB’s will fail because they are too short, too tall, too heavy, too slow, too thin, too stupid, too young, too old and Doug Williams’ favorite, too black. Fact is, many have succeeded with such maladies. The youngster doesn’t need a Charles Atlas physique to hold a clipboard and wear a baseball cap as long as his ears stick out past that “skinny head”.
May 18th, 2013 at 11:38 am
BamBamBuc….No one is saying that Glennon was drafted to start. Glennon was drafted as an insurance policy. We needed a backup QB who could work in our system. Glennon fit that mold. As far as intelligence….have you ever listened to a Freeman interview??? I think Josh has the potential to be a great QB but he doesn’t exactly come off as a scholar.
May 19th, 2013 at 4:36 pm
First of all ~ please don’t judge a QB on their.looks , Second- Agreed that all are worried about Josh’s inconsistency & inaccuracy. This is no big surprise.
Think about it . The QB draft class was not the best this year & after reading more into it. If Schiano was hell bent on a franchise QB , he wouldn’t of picked Jonathan Banks in the first round. & Glennon is insurance if Josh’s performance remains as it did in ”12 or Josh gets injured .”He’s o RGIII,” as per BUCS NATION’s article stated. Also Josh was given these compliments by Schiano ,
“Glennon has the ability, Josh has the Ultimate ability to keep his eyes downfield . ” Also stated Josh was more mobile. Maybe this year we’ll get to see him scramble a bit more. Glennon is just what I thght , Insurance