Former NFL QBs Laud Mike Glennon
April 26th, 2013
A scribe in the Bucs media workroom that Joe has the utmost respect for is adamant the selection of Mike Glennon, NC State quarterback, is “developmental.”
Developmental for what, a backup? Joe politely disagrees. Third round selections are not made for developmental slots, unless they are being developed to start one day.
With a thin defensive front and not exactly a roster overflowing with All-Pros at tight end and right tackle, the Bucs go quarterback? And the incumbent, proven to be inconsistent, is in the last year of his contract under a coach who did not draft him?
That does not add up “developmental” in Joe’s vernacular.
So this brings Joe to popular sports radio personality Adam Schein. The SiriusXM and SNY host also has a football show on CBS Sports Network co-hosted by Hall of Fame quarterback Phil Simms and Super Bowl quarterback Rich Gannon. Schein claims both Simms and Gannon are big believers in Glennon.
@AdamSchein: Love Glennon to TB. My guys Phil Simms and @RichGannon12 thought he was 2nd best QB in draft.
No, Joe cannot sit here on a (so far) sober Friday evening and flat out say the selection of Glennon is not a safety net if Freeman starts launching balls into the stands with receivers open in the end zone (again), or vanishing in critical games this season.
If, in fact, Glennon was drafted as developmental, it surely wasn’t a virtual hug for Freeman from the Bucs’ brass.
April 26th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
But Joe, the whiny Bucs fans will complain that they are more knowledgeable than either Phil Simms or Rich Gannon about QB’s. More so than Jon Gruden, too. Let’s not put too much stock in the understanding of professionals when we can take the advice of armchair bozos in the Tampa Bay area. Right?
April 26th, 2013 at 10:00 pm
Joe..you are spot on!
April 26th, 2013 at 10:01 pm
Couldn’t have said it better. He may be the 2nd best QB in this draft but he sucks as a DT, DE, TE or any other position we still need help at.
April 26th, 2013 at 10:02 pm
FLBoyInDallas:
Joe doesn’t believe a word out of Chucky’s mouth. When is the last time he didn’t like a quarterback? Hell, he was even touting John Parker Wilson as a second round pick!
April 26th, 2013 at 10:02 pm
Patriots grabbed Mallett , so it is not a threat to Josh just like Mallett is not a threat to Brady and I understand it but we had Kaseem Green sitting there and John Jenkins..
April 26th, 2013 at 10:03 pm
3 words, BPA!!
April 26th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
Look, I want Freeman to be our franchise qb as much as anyone, but his completion percentage has always scared me. Is it coincidence that Glennon’s completion percentage was over 65% as a senior? I think not. The job is Freeman’s to either pull a Falco and make millions upon millions as the Buc’s franchise qb or for another team that he impresses this season. The Bucs had to grab a possible future qb in case Freeman falters and to provide real competition. If Freeman has hurt feelings, cry me a river. This should motivate him to play his a$$ off. Thrilled with our draft so far. Go Bucs!
April 26th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
@Joe
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Gruden had Glennon ranked the same as Simms, Gannon and several others. Not a Gruden fan myself, either, but gotta give credit even if it might be accidental.
April 26th, 2013 at 10:05 pm
Ding dong The Moron’s gone!!!
April 26th, 2013 at 10:07 pm
Glennon appears to be a unique talent. He may or may not pan out. I don’t know.
The Bucs, under Dom, love bringing in unique talent that could help the Bucs win games. This appears to fit.
It is definitely interesting.
April 26th, 2013 at 10:08 pm
They could have picked him up with their 2nd pick in the 4th round. I personally wanted Khaseem Greene with this pick.
April 26th, 2013 at 10:09 pm
All I know is we’re nearly through three rounds and the supposedly better Barkley and Nassib are still sitting by their phones. Nassib’s college coach even passed on him.
April 26th, 2013 at 10:10 pm
All I heard all day is how Glennon is the best pure drop back passer in this draft. I think this was a quality pick. Should motivate Freeman if not we have our insurance.
April 26th, 2013 at 10:11 pm
I’d rather draft current Rich Gannon.
April 26th, 2013 at 10:13 pm
I agree with Joe on the Chucky take. Gruden is one of the worst and most overrated NFL talent evaluator out there. Please go back and look at all of the drafts under Gruden. He set the Bucs back over a decade with his wretched draft classes. #Terrible
April 26th, 2013 at 10:15 pm
You guys know nothing and it is showing.
MLB startering pitchers are just like this guy. He just happened to choose football.
Very happy.
April 26th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
6’7 is pretty massive. This is a pick that I can get behind. Freeman needs a real push, not freaking Orlovsky. If Freeman implodes because of this well he wasn’t good enough anyways. He should, and hopefully does, rise to the occasion next year. He has to, the team around him is playoff calibre.
April 26th, 2013 at 10:19 pm
Wait till pre season… this guy is gonna show you how good he really is.
April 26th, 2013 at 10:20 pm
John Gruden thought Bruce Gradkowski was the savior LOL! Hell, Gruden was trying to oust Brad Johnson from the get-go.
April 26th, 2013 at 10:21 pm
@Raphael John Jenkins wouldn’t have passed the pre-camp conditioning test.
April 26th, 2013 at 10:25 pm
Best player on draft board i guess.
April 26th, 2013 at 10:30 pm
@Rob in Orlando
You said, “Is it coincidence that Glennon’s completion percentage was over 65% as a senior?”
Might want to check your stats. Glennon completed 58.5 percent of his passes as a senior.
April 26th, 2013 at 10:30 pm
I’ve read the comments here and was seriously thinking about buying tickets this year. I was almost convince dthe Revis trade would get us there or nearly there. After the trade was thinking the Bucs might think they have something here. Then the Bucs make this QB draft pick. Wow!
This pick of the QB in the 3rd round! suggests they have no confidence in Freeman and we are re-building.
This guy may be awesome. I don’t know. But this high of a pick suggests the team doesn’t support Freeman. It doesn’t believe he can take them to a higher level.
Yes it is a contract year for Freeman but a 3rd round pick after you just gave up a 3 or 4 next year for Revis?
Looks like black outs could be a thing of the future unfortunately. Hopefully this new Qb is good. Looks like we will live with him in the next year or 2.
April 26th, 2013 at 10:30 pm
All those screaming for Khaseem Greene need to chill and think. We have a weakside LB already. He kicked ass last year. Greene is a poor man’s LaVonte David. He is too small to play MLB or SLB so really doesn’t make sense for the Bucs. Can’t say I love Glennon in the third round, but I’d rather him than Greene.
April 26th, 2013 at 10:38 pm
Was hoping to see Brandon Williams instead. I think Glennon could’ve been had in the 4th, if they really felt it was necessary to add him. I’m really curious to see what they’re gonna do tomorrow, if DL will be addressed (DT in particular- Landri/Gibson should not be starting). There are a couple of surprising names still left on the board, so I won’t rush to judgement just yet. I have faith in Dominik and Schiano to build this team properly.
April 26th, 2013 at 10:43 pm
I think this is a 2014 pick. Somebody out there is going to offer Free a stupid big contract and, unless the Bucs make a major playoff run, they probably aren’t going to match it. They sure as hell aren’t going to franchise him. I like the positional pick…not sure about the player. I’ve only seen him play two times.
April 26th, 2013 at 10:54 pm
Best case scenario is they both turn out to be solid quarterbacks and we trade one of them. Worst case scenario…they both turn out to be complete crap (determined at least 2 years from now), the Glazer’s clean house, and we start over. In the mean time I’ll be watching every game with a cold one in my hand.
April 26th, 2013 at 10:55 pm
Freeman has 5 games. 1-4 “he’s gonzo”
April 26th, 2013 at 11:09 pm
Mike Glennon won’t even challenge Dan Orlovsky this year.
“No, Joe cannot sit here on a (so far) sober Friday evening and flat out say the selection of Glennon is not a safety net if Freeman starts launching balls into the stands with receivers open in the end zone (again), or vanishing in critical games this season…”
You mean like Mike Glennon was KNOW for in college?
Since we’re on the subject of QB’s – do you know the names of the other QB’s in NFL history threw for 13,000 yards in their fist 4 years?
Should be easy football gurus – there are only 8 of them – one should be reeeaally easy.
One of them is Josh Freeman…
April 26th, 2013 at 11:16 pm
Two possibilities here:
Scenario #1: Schiano is convinced that Josh will not progress in development unless he is pushed. Orlovsky is no threat to take his job nor is any other QB on the roster. Josh is perceived as too comfortable out there, and frankly, his overall command of the position and his leadership skills are questionable at best. Schiano fears Freeman turning into Mark Sanchez, who was coddled constantly, to his own detriment.
Scenario #2: Schiano didn’t like at all what he saw from Freeman last year and thought it imperative to bring in a potential replacement at the first opportunity. We know that during his time here Josh has not always been committed to his conditioning, sometimes shows up teammates on the field, pouts when he is frustrated, and still has big trouble with even easy reads out there.
I’d love a couple pass rushers too, as well as a tight end who can stretch the chains and an all-purpose OLB. But if Glennon either becomes an effective starting QB or pushes Josh into realizing his potential, it was a wise investment.
April 26th, 2013 at 11:39 pm
Might be they are actually going with best player available per their board. As important as a QB is to every team I think having two good QB’s is a must.
April 26th, 2013 at 11:56 pm
been wanting the bucs to pick up a qb but was surprised it was this one. Maybe it will work out. With good coaching from Sullie and the qb coach this kid may surprise, only time will tell. lets give him a chance
April 27th, 2013 at 12:01 am
@Zzyxx
Good points also Scenario #3, covering Schiano’s ass if it goes south. Scenario #4 Allows for an out with a marginal season from Freeman
April 27th, 2013 at 1:59 am
Wow. This board is out of control. This isn’t an unfair, categorically sinister pick here. Let’s not all go crazy and start dancing naked and downing Crown Royal on the pirate ship just yet. See the move for what it is. With the importance of good quarterback depth, the premise here is to quickly develop Glennon in the event that the inconsistent Freeman shows up. There’s a couple Hall of Fame Quarterbacks that really like Glennon and think he has a pretty polished game. Note: Jon Gruden is not a Hall of Fame QB. If Emmitt Smith came out of retirement to become a QB, Jon Gruden would love him.
April 27th, 2013 at 6:48 am
It is good to have a back up QB in case your starter goes down to injury or consistency.
April 27th, 2013 at 9:02 am
Drama Queens lol
Pretty simple, every team needs a back up who can step in if their starter goes down. We have one now.
Free is on his last year, we need to have a plan in place in case he decides to showcase “Bad Free” this year again. We have one now.
Competition brings out the best in you. We have some now at the QB spot.
If you can’t handle the heat Free, get the hell out of the kitchen.
This team has shown a clear desire to succeed more so now than in the past and now it’s as clear as can be for Free. It’s now or never bud.
April 27th, 2013 at 10:08 am
Do people actually watch Freeman? The bulk of his yards come on big down the field pass plays, and while that’s nice, that doesn’t convert a 3rd and 6. Freeman’s 8-20 yard passing game is one of the worst in the league. He’s played well, but he’s at best the 3rd best QB in the division.
April 27th, 2013 at 10:30 am
@White Tiger….You do know that Glennon did it in essentially half the years Freeman did since he was backup to Russell Wilson for 2 years. That does make it a little more impressive. I like this pick. Even if Freeman lights it up this year we need a quality backup and this guy has the potential to be starter material. Good pick.
April 27th, 2013 at 10:46 am
Wow! I just watched some more highlights of this kid. His receivers just absolutely sucked. They dropped so many passes. He played under 7 different offensive line combinations his senior year and still put up huge numbers. I really like this kid. Freeman better step up his game because this kid has all the tools to take his job. He goes through his progressions so quickly. Always under pressure and never stares down a receiver. I like that.
April 27th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
If Simms and Gannon are high on this kid, he could be something special. Showed a lot in the comeback against Maryland. Love his anticipation in reading progressions. Also Eric Stokes did a great job with Seattle so I think his fingerprints are all over Banks and Glennon. I think this kid could be a stud qb for us!! It’s up to Josh to have a good 2013 season.