If Revis’ MRI Not 100%, Trade May Be Dead
April 15th, 2013
Today could be a big day for both the Bucs and the Jets. The star corner of the Jets, Darrelle Revis, long rumored to be the center of trade talks between the Jets and the Bucs, is to arrive in Gotham from hiding and will undergo a medical exam including an MRI.
Revis, who required ACL reconstructive surgery after blowing out a knee last season, would pretty much need to given a medical green light for trade talks to continue. Tampa Tribune scribe Woody Cummings, appearing with WFLA-TV’s Dan Lucas in a sitdown to discuss Revis and the NFL draft, said the trade talks could be killed depending on Revis’ medical exam today.
Monday “is a pretty big day. [Revis is] supposed to go for an MRI and that is a pretty interesting development because that MRI would tell us a whole lot whether this trade, if there is a trade, is going to move forward,” Cummings said. “If something, anything negative comes up in that MRI, if that knee is not healing properly the way everybody thinks it should be at this point, that’s going to kill this trade right away. So [Monday] is going to be an important day.
“If we get anything out in the next 48 hours I would say, maybe 72 hours, about the results of that MRI are negative, you are probably going to see the hopes of the this or the chance of this trade going down significantly. But if it comes clean, well, it remains on the table as much as it has been on the table.”
Bucs fans shouldn’t go running to the Sunshine Skyway Bridge if the MRI comes back bad. It just means the Bucs, in Joe’s eyes, will draft at least one and maybe two corners in the first two days of the draft and your starting corners might be Eric Wright and a rookie, perhaps Xavier Rhodes.
April 15th, 2013 at 9:14 am
At this point we should leave a low\reasonable offer on the table for Revis, not including this years 1st, and proceed with the draft as planned.
April 15th, 2013 at 9:16 am
You can’t give up high draft picks for an elite corner if you don’t know if he’s elite anymore…you just can’t.
April 15th, 2013 at 9:29 am
Do you really think they would release bad info?
April 15th, 2013 at 9:34 am
And, if it’s bad, then people will say focus on the draft. The problem is there are more holes than draft picks. That’s why the beginning of FA was important.
Who starts at DT?
Casillas at LB??
DE depth? or do we go no safety net with injury concerns?
RT starter or depth?
slot or te depth?
depending on Orlovsky?
April 15th, 2013 at 9:38 am
The bucs talked last season about Depth, depth and depth yet they failed to add It 3 blah blah signings and one Splash in Gholdson. We are in trouble
April 15th, 2013 at 9:46 am
@Oil:
Who starts at DT? Landry
Casillas at LB?? Maybe, or Hayward. Doesn’t matter much, will only play 40% of snaps.
DE depth? or do we go no safety net with injury concerns? Legit concern.
RT starter or depth? Dotson, he’s the starter. Depth in later rounds.
slot or te depth? Already got these in FA.
depending on Orlovsky? Whatever, doesn’t matter. Either Freeman is it or we’ll be drafting one next year.
April 15th, 2013 at 9:55 am
We are no worse with the addition of Revis.
A one legged Revis will be about as reliable as Myronw Lewis.
If Revis comes back to health, then we are winners of this trade.
The good news is that the Bucs are either going to improve their team, or not make it any worse with the addition of Revis.
The only “risk” is the salary cap cost, but we have so much cap space that it doesn’t evene matter.
There is no hold up in the health of Revis, there is only, “Do I want to win, keep my job, and make this team better?”- Dominick.
April 15th, 2013 at 9:57 am
Oil Derrick:
Gary Gibson started a fair number of snaps at NT and did pretty well. I’m fairly confident we’ll draft a NT in the first three rounds. There is no other reason to let Roy Miller walk unless they really liked a handful of players in rounds 1 – 3.
Hayward and Watson both did rather well after Black went out. Casillas is depth and competition. We had an MLB and a WLB both playing well, SLB doesn’t need to be a star.
I’m concerned about this position too, but they are very fond of Te’o-Nesheim. He played a fair number of snaps last year and wasn’t completely out of his depth. Hopefully we pick up a veteran after the draft to provide competition, pass rushing expertise, and a better rotation.
RT depth is already on the roster. We do still need a starter. Winston will still be there after the draft. My guess is that Dominik and Schiano have a player or two they like in the draft that they want to see if they get before signing a veteran starter. Winston himself said the market is cold, why rush it and pay someone when you might be able to get the rookie you like? Having Dotson and Winston on new contracts would make drafting a tackle high a mistake.
Slot – we picked up Ogletree and are returning Underwood. There is also a lot of noise about Tavon Austin. With two very good wideouts (I don’t understand the Mike Williams hate, 190 receptions, 2700 yards, and 23TDs are very good stats over three years for a WR2), we don’t need an elite slot receiver. We aren’t a spread team. Which leads to TE. Both Crabtree and Stocker are blockers and solid underneath receivers. That’s what we need. We aren’t trying to be Green Bay.
Orlovsky is a solid back up. If there really is a concern, veteran back-up QBs aren’t exactly flying off the market.
The Bucs like to draft need and fill holes with Free Agency. The strategy you seem to want is sign starters and draft solely on talent. While I think that’s a paradigm that feels better in the offseason, it’s not necessarily better. Green Bay and Pittsburgh rarely sign starters and have done well over the past decade.
April 15th, 2013 at 10:05 am
And when this MRI comes back saying his knee is healing properly be prepared to see our #13 pick go to the jets as Dominik loses another negotiation. I still dont understand how you can give the jets everything they want when theres no other teams bidding for revis. At least Dominik’s consistent in his losing ways.
April 15th, 2013 at 10:24 am
Landri is not even an upgrade over Miller IMO, same w/ Gibson. So, that’s one pick in the top 3, right? And, CB with one of the other’s right? So, that leaves 1 pick in the top 3, left.
I just don’t consider Dotson a starter. Backup, yes. I like Winston, but, he’s a zone guy. We all know that, so, let’s not expect miracles from him.
I like Dekoda Watson, but, he isn’t ready yet. The rest are backups, imo.
Orlovsky running the ream for more than a game is a nightmare. There were competent backups available.
Let’s let Dominik get the team into the playoffs before we even start putting Pittsburgh and GB into the sentence. It’s one thing to have a similar philosophy, it’s a another, to be successful at it.
April 15th, 2013 at 10:28 am
This is why the Jets and Revis confirmed he would be reporting to the team. The Jets know they have to pursue a trade and a good MRI report will give them the ability to at least attempt to drive a hard bargain. Revis wants to play along so he can have his big payday. If he goes into the open market after next season, he might not get nearly as much as the Bucs are willing to give. That’s the part that bothers me. It’s better to keep the draft picks and take your chances in luring him in free agency next year. It’s all mute point if the knee isn’t healed.
April 15th, 2013 at 10:41 am
Does anyone think anything but positive news is going to come out about Revis’ knee? If so, I’ve got the map to the fountain of youth to sell you.
Revis’ knee could be rotting from the inside out but all we will hear is “Better than expected. Just like new”.
April 15th, 2013 at 10:44 am
Why a healthy Revis is worth the 13th pick:
“Draft profile Morris Claiborne
The winner of the Jim Thorpe Award (given to the country’s top defensive back) opted to forgo his senior year and enter the draft. He is huge for the position and has great speed. A very explosive athlete, Claiborne should easily press for a starting role wherever he lands. He covered top-tier talent in the SEC and is as polished as corners come. He has first-round value and shouldn’t last long in the draft.”
Claiborne was very average in his rookie year and he came to the NFL with just as much hype as Millner is getting now. Rookies in general have too much to adjustment to the pro level to be very effective. That’s why a healthy Revis is a no brainer for the 13th pick. He is virtually garuanteed to be better for a few years than any of the corners coming out this year! Of course that is if he is healthy.
April 15th, 2013 at 11:02 am
I suspect Revis will be fine. Still do not think we should get him though.
Jacko101, there have been more signings than you mentioned. Some were not even reported here.
Oil Derrick Brooks, to address your concerns:
DT? 1st or 2nd round pick
Casillas at LB?? Chance to earn it, but it’s a deep draft, we can get a suitable guy in the 4th.
DE depth? Undrafted free agents and cuts made after the draft. There are always opportunities that come up.
RT? We have a RT starter, though I would rather go better. Frankly though, he was a step up from Trueblood.
You don’t get starters for depth, so we’ll end up with guys that are young fill ins. It’s worked on the oline so far.
slot or te depth?
depending on Orlovsky?
April 15th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
The Jets and, yes, Dominick are creating a circus out of this Revis trade, with Dominick on the losing end. The Bucs have allowed numerous DB’s to sign with other teams well under previous market value. In a buyer’s market the Bucs could have afforded to pick up a couple FA’s that would have been a monster upgrade to their current situation. Instead, they have done the “waltz” with Idzik. It is more about the pass rush than it is about the coverage. Dungy’s philosophy is tried and true. During Tampa’s dominance, we had good DB’s that were instinctual, but not particularly fast or as athletic as some of these other “shutdown” corners. They were smart and were made better by a dominant pass rush that forced even the best QB’s into poor decisions. I know this is no longer the Tampa 2 and we live and die by the blitz, but what is wrong with a fiece rush from the front four? Couple that with good blitzing LB’s and you have a deadly combination that puts less pressure on the secondary. Just saying.
April 15th, 2013 at 1:34 pm
i thought if it comes back negative, that is a positive…
media peoples shouldn’t be esplainin’ no medical stuff, and no medical peoples will be making crap up based on their opinion, ala media peoples.