Darrelle Revis Takes Care Of Two Positions
March 23rd, 2013
Yes, the Bucs need cornerbacks worse than Joe needs a beer on a Florida July Friday afternoon. Many Bucs fans are weirded out by the prospect of the Bucs talking turkey with the Jets for Darrelle Revis. They are pacing around their house like Cornholio.
And for good reason. If healthy — key phrase there — Revis is not just the best cornerback in the NFL, he almost takes care of two cornerback positions. This subject was grazed in a BSPN NFC South chat.
EastEndBoy (DC)
If Tampa lines up Revis and Leonard Johnson (or a 2nd round rookie), with Star Loutelelei as the new DT, how strong does the defense look?
Pat Yasinskas
A lot better than it looks today.
Here’s the thing about Revis: If the Bucs somehow grabbed him, he would make Leonard Johnson (or Danny Gorrer or Eric Wright — but not Myron Lewis) a better cornerback?
How you ask? Let Joe explain:
With an All-Pro corner on one side, and an All-Pro safety (Dashon Goldson) and a talented first round draft pick (Mark Barron), the Bucs could roll coverage and cheat to the side of the field where Johnson/Gorrer/Wright would be.
So by just adding one outstanding cornerback, it would immediately make the second corner much more effective.
March 23rd, 2013 at 8:26 am
I remember when Pat Yasinkas was here in Tampa.
He is right of course about Revis. There s a lot you can do with a shut down corner.
March 23rd, 2013 at 8:28 am
There is no doubt about Revis helping the other CB….QBs will naturally try to avoid Revis….also, if Revis takes out the #1 reciever then we are always defending #2 & 3.
The addition of Goldson is huge to the mix. The way we are proceeding (not signing any CBs) leads me to believe that we will get Revis eventually.
March 23rd, 2013 at 8:33 am
If star loutelli falls to Tampa in the first round and we get Revis…we win. That’s just pure brilliance and luck bc star is the best player in the draft.
March 23rd, 2013 at 8:38 am
lol…I remember people praying for manti te’o. I assume the grumpy old men wouldn’t want star because of his injury.
March 23rd, 2013 at 8:44 am
Im really close to giving up on the Revis deal. Lets move up in the draft and get Milliner or Rhodes. Might be a reach, but we’re almost desperate for a CB now!
March 23rd, 2013 at 8:48 am
Assuming a soft market for Wright, I suggest resigning him at a reduced salary, locking up Ronde as the nickel and third safety, acquiring Revis and signing him long-term – grooming LJ as the 4th corner. I would feel good with that secondary
Then you can use the draft to focus on pass rushers and inside pass catchers – although Underwood is serviceable and Stocker started to develop.
Dom has a chance to do this right, I hope he steps up.
March 23rd, 2013 at 8:48 am
@lurker, no grumpy old man here, but Star’s heart issue is no joke and if bad enough, will require surgery. It will get worse as he ages if he doesnt get operated on. I’ve been calling for us to draft him for a while now, but I was banking on news coming out that it wasnt that bad. So Im staying away for now.
March 23rd, 2013 at 8:49 am
It seems the longer we wait, the lower the price for Revis, at least I hope so. The terms seem to get more reasonable for the Bucs as time passes. If we do get Revis and he does not play well, we are screwed and let the finger pointing begin. That’s a lot of eggs in one basket.
Perhaps the draft (if we have any picks left) will fill in some of the remaining weak spots in the D.
I’m curious, does anyone think this trade might happen before or after the draft? I would guess that if the trade were to take place, it would be before the draft. Just asking the question.
March 23rd, 2013 at 8:54 am
@SeanyMac, where you at in SC? Im in Greenville.
I think the trade, if possible, should take place before the draft but I dont think it will. Jets are too ignorant to figure out they’re not going to get so much for him when he’s only going to be there this year.
March 23rd, 2013 at 8:59 am
@madmax star would be a great addition to the defensive line. I’m not saying his condition isn’t serious but I’m pretty sure that they have already decided that it shouldnt have any effect on his career. I’m definitely pulling for star though. He would almost instantly give us one of the best defenses (provided we land revis) I would also like to see them get a offensive tackle early in the draft. This team is going to end up being the best Tampa bay team anyone has ever seen. It’s almost to good to be true to see them making the moves they have these past few years.
March 23rd, 2013 at 9:00 am
Most believe before the draft because although it seems that Dom does not want to give up this years first there are plenty other picks to package with next years first. But we will see. They could like the depht of this draft and use these picks to move around the draft again.
Im one that is being patient, i believe that one way or another revis will be a buc. I prefer sooner than later but its obvious the jets need to move on and when u consider compensation plus what revis wants no one can really compete or even is as willing as the bucs.
March 23rd, 2013 at 9:04 am
Here is how to handle the Jets:
This years 4th plus next years 1st; or this years 2nd and next years second. Decided within 72 hours or we drop our offer by one round per day. Take it or leave it.
March 23rd, 2013 at 9:09 am
If you trade for Revision this year. The bugs wont have any pick next year when they have to draft a franchise QB. The bucs will need to move very high in the 1st round to finally get a QB that can take this team to a playoff game.
March 23rd, 2013 at 9:12 am
Please just stop mentioning Danny Gorrer.
March 23rd, 2013 at 9:19 am
i believe that star was cleared to work out for teams, but that he goes to see another doc in 2 weeks or so for more/re- evaluations.
March 23rd, 2013 at 9:19 am
I’ve been thinking this exact scenario for the last week.
Draft star if he is there and grab Logan Ryan or a quality corner in the second. Find a decent right tackle in the late rounds and the rest is cake.
March 23rd, 2013 at 9:23 am
At this point you gotta get the deal done with Revis. Not only were they the worst D in passing yards but second to worst D in sacks. Sign Revis and draft D line in first round.
March 23rd, 2013 at 9:28 am
Thomas 2.2,
The Bucs may have created a situation of unintended consequences. As you suggest, Eric Wright may now be the fall back candidate. But Eric Wright is not cooperating. Eric says pay me or cut me. They have given him leverage.
Eric now knows that with this weak FA market, he can get 3.5 to 4mil from Detroit, Miami, or the Eagles. If that is the case and he takes a pay cut which he eventually will, it becomes a matter of whom he would rather play for given the contentious relationship between him and the Bucs.
Still too early to tell what they will do, but my guess if they do keep Wright, to our displeasure, they’re going to pay him more than we think they should! Eric may take Adderall but he’s not stupid!
March 23rd, 2013 at 9:34 am
If Star is not there at #13, then we should draft Sheldon Richardson. Either way, you can’t go wrong, but I believe choosing a DT first depends on whether we sign Revis.
March 23rd, 2013 at 9:42 am
@Macabee
I mentioned about that very subject weeks ago. If we void Wrights contract and offer him another at a reduced price, he does not have to accept. He would be a UFA and can sign with whomever he chooses, which probably won’t be the Bucs. The only way they keep him for sure is to keep him under his original contract.
March 23rd, 2013 at 9:44 am
OK guys.
About our DT.
We are definitely targeting a DT in the first. Thats why we dont want to trade our 1st rounder. Because we can find a great DT at #13.
And another solod DT to go next to McCoy, would be like the time we drafted Booger McFarland in the 1st round to go with Sapp.
Sapp had his best years alongside Booger.
We need a new Booger. Lolz.
But if, we have to trade this years 1st and a 4th and a conditional pick mextyear, depending on Revis’s play/health. Then I am down at this point.
Are you guys telling me, that if Revis was available in this years draft class,
He wouldnt be selected FIRST OVERALL?
Of course he would!
So, a pick at #13 is worth it.
Go Bucs!
Then draft another corner in the 2nd.
March 23rd, 2013 at 9:49 am
The Best case scenario with Wright is to offer him as trade bait to Miami, and swap first round picks. As of right now Miami is leaning towards drafting a CB with their first pick and they are one position ahead of us. If for some reason we don’t land Revis we should be able to select the second best CB in the draft instead of Miami.
March 23rd, 2013 at 10:53 am
Welcome back Thomas 2.2
It is getting close to time to shat or get off the pot. As much as we need a CB I’m not so sure Regis is the long-term answer. Giving up this years first or next years first only puts us without the first round talent from having no picks in the first round. We did this to get coach Gruden it hurt the team for several season. And ultimately cost coach Gruden his job. I would rather take my chances with the first round picks than worry about $ issues with Revis.
March 23rd, 2013 at 11:08 am
I say trade up to get a DT to play aside GMAC; of course thats assuming we get Revis.
March 23rd, 2013 at 11:13 am
@ MadMax
I live in Simpsonville . Maybe we can see some games together when the season begins at Bailey’s or some other wateringhole. It won’t be hard to find one another. I’m always the only person wearing Bucs gear being taunted by the majority Panthers, Falcons, Saints, Steelers, and Cowboy fans around here. It’s never been easy being and Bucs fan but that’s ok. Send me an email smcclintock1@gmail.com.
March 23rd, 2013 at 12:07 pm
Macabee, makes a great point.
teacherman777, on DT. I agree. I think that is the way they are going…although I think there is a possibility they take DJ Hayden at 13 and a DT in the second. Could go either way. I’m leaning toward DT though.
March 23rd, 2013 at 12:13 pm
Why does everyone keep thinking star is going to fall to us at pick 13. That’s crazy talk he is going to go #1 overall if not there then definitely top 5. Bucs fans just pick whoever they want not a realistic option for us. Come on son
March 23rd, 2013 at 1:00 pm
Pirate Phil:
The more I see and hear from the draft “guru’s” the more you are correct. The heart scare is not as worrisome as it once was. There was talk last night of Star going top 5. And I easily see that happening. Sheldon Richardson is the more likely candidate at 13
March 23rd, 2013 at 1:04 pm
And for the people talking about the Sapp/Booger comparisons. I think Star and Floyd are the best DT’s obviously but Richardson is the most comparible to Booger type. And by no means am I saying pick Richardson I’m just going by the “if we take a DT at 13 talk”.
March 23rd, 2013 at 2:14 pm
@SeanyMac, man dont take that crap from them alone, lol. I’ll join you in the battle. I dont catch any flack at my watering hole, Carolina Ale House (upstairs). I dont go there for every game, but at least half of the games. Im always wearing Buc gear too, usually my Barber jersey. Def good to find a local Buc fan. madmaxbuc@gmail.com
March 23rd, 2013 at 6:21 pm
Trade Wright if we can. He’s going anyway right? As for Revis, well I’m agreeing with RustyRhino on that issue. It hurts us going forward. Say we did bring in Revis at the expense of 2014 1st round pick and Josh F is inconsistent again, we finish 6-10.
With no 1st rounder how can we look at replacing him through the draft? We have to assume that the reason Josh hasn’t had a contract extension is that the New Order is giving him another year to prove his worth (or lack of), so what then?
With this uncertainty we need to hold our first rounders, both this years and next.