NFL GMs: Bucs Best Fit For Darrelle Revis
March 6th, 2013
Leave it to Adam Schein to get Bucs fans all worked into a lather on Twitter.
The popular sports radio personality, in his final week of co-hosting “The Blitz” with Rich Gannon on SiriusXM NFL Radio, did a bit of homework today and for Bucs fans, it was as if Schein announced Santa Claus was about to park his sleigh, replete with reindeer, atop One Buc Palace.
While discussing the future of Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis, Schein threw this juicy nugget out on Twitter in the midst of his show:
@AdamSchein: I asked 2 NFL GMs via text what is the best and most realistic fit for Revis. Both had interesting same answer. Tampa.
While this would be a bold move by Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik, Joe is of the belief the Bucs could get more by spending less, in other words, forget about Revis, who is coming off an ACL injury.
Dominik potentially could sign Derek Cox and Dashon Goldson and still be able to keep the Bucs’ draft picks.
Pat Kirwan, who co-hosts “Movin the Chains,” along with Tim Ryan, also exclusively heard on SiriusXM NFL Radio, said yesterday Revis was “the most untradeable player” in the NFL given how much ransom it would take to pry him away from the Jets; Revis has but one year left on his massive contract and he cannot be franchised due to a clause in that contract, and no one knows if he can come back 100 percent from his ACL injury.
Unless Revis agreed to a contract prior to a trade, and the draft pick(s) is conditional, there is no way Joe would touch Revis. Trading draft picks for Revis and having him walk away after one year is basically throwing draft picks away.
And, no, Joe is not convinced the Bucs are just one shutdown corner away from making a Super Bowl run. If Revis was the final piece to a puzzle of playing in February, Joe would have a different take on this potential trade.
March 6th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
I thought Win-slow was pretty much untradeable as well, put the boy-genius Gm pulled it off and wasted a 2nd rounder for him.
March 6th, 2013 at 5:08 pm
Booooooo
We need 3 CBs… maybe 5, a safety and a DE.
March 6th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
If we can get Revis for a 2nd and a 4th why not if we can get him to do a long term deal. Release Eric or restructure depending on what he does go for another cornerback in FA. We would still have our number 1 draft pick, of which we could trade away for more picks. So many different directions to go
March 6th, 2013 at 5:15 pm
wow this Revis to tampa talk is really heating up because we’re all over espn for once. Ive come to realize that usually with the media if theres smoke theres fire so I think theres a good chance we get him. Getting Revis would not be the most prudent move and Im not exactly for it, but if we do get him im certainly not going to complain about it.
March 6th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
i thought this draft was deep with corners??? can Revis play that good more than 3 years at this point? can the boy-genius GM finally draft 1 good corner???
March 6th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
Now that’s just stereotyping us because we have money and we need a CB. We are not one elite CB away from winning a superbowl. We have many holes CB/OLB/RT/FS/TE and maybe 1 pass rushing DE and one more DT.
March 6th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
If we trade for him and sign him there should be conditional picks in the trade and conditional mumbo jumbo in the contract. Probably wouldnt be agreed on by the jets and/or revis. So im still leanin more to the no. But damn if he was what he was…
March 6th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
@ the bucs realist
STFU u troll. Winslow was very productive and was more than worth that second round pick. if you dont believe me than go back and look at the numbers. I did his job and his time here had simply run its course so the bucs and Winslow move on. I advise you to do the same.
March 6th, 2013 at 5:25 pm
* he did his job
March 6th, 2013 at 5:26 pm
The Bucs would still be 24/25 million under cap after we signed him and dropped Eric Wright… We could still to do what we wanted to do. We would be at 40 million after dropping Wright
March 6th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
We could even sign another CB or Safety and a cou[ple more pieces with the money that is left lol
March 6th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
@ Andrew 1
1 1/2 years of production is not a successful 2nd round pick. If this is a successful pick then i really think that the expectation have really dropped around here!
March 6th, 2013 at 5:42 pm
@ the bucs realist
I dont know why I even bother with idiots like you. HE WAS OUR LEADING RECEIVER FOR 3 YEARS!
Winslow 2009- 77catches
Winslow 2010- 66 catches
Winslow 2011- 75 catches
http://www.nfl.com/teams/statistics?season=2009&team=TB&seasonType=
you fuking ignoramus try thinking for once.
March 6th, 2013 at 5:43 pm
Ideally, my free agency offseason for the DBs would be getting Dashon Goldson and Sean Smith, allowing Ronde to move back to corner, jumping into the slot on sub packages.
Those 2 moves could improve 3 positions.
March 6th, 2013 at 5:44 pm
So sick of the talking heads coming up with this conclusion: “Bucs need CBs. Revis is good CB. Therefore, Revis is going to Bucs”. Stupid.
Doesn’t matter if we had 3 guys like Revis at CB. If you can’t rush the passer, none of it matters.
FYI – best “fit” isn’t the same thing as eventual team.
I’d rather pay all that money and trade for a guy who can sack the QB. Too bad that guy isn’t out there. We need another Simeon Rice trade.
March 6th, 2013 at 6:12 pm
@ the bucs realist
ah, what happened? all out of stupid remarks uh. good. that outta shut your troll a$s up for a while. thats all I ever read from you on these posts. do us all a favor and take a break from the keyboard.
March 6th, 2013 at 6:13 pm
I’ll believe this only when Joe posts 8 more articles about the subject, 3 positive 4 negative with the 5th on being neutral.
Until then… HOG WASH!
March 6th, 2013 at 6:39 pm
I would give up a 2nd or a 4th but not both. Revis is a great talent no doubt. But he is not very reliable. I dont really consider him a Buccaneers man either but I would not complain if he ended up in a Bucs uniform.
March 6th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
@andrew1 he went AWOL lol. Great facts man I like Revis but as I said Not for a number one pick. I wouldn’t mind doing a long term deal for a good price we are so young we need depth ya know?
March 6th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
At first glance, I thought this was a remote possibility, but now believe that it is not only possible, but could be quite likely. There are several factors at work here: (1) the Bucs are but one of a few teams that have both the need (impetus) and the pocketbook (cap space) (2) they have a past relationship with John Idzik, new Jets GM and (3) Andrew1 made a smart suggestion the other night that the Bucs should trade out of the 1st round and acquire other draft picks.
Let’s assume that all the due diligence was done and Revis’ knee is sound. If it isn’t there is no need to go any further. There is a perfect scenario developing that would allow the Bucs to trade for Revis without giving up any of their original draft picks.
The 49ers have all but conceded that Dashon Goldson is going to walk. Kenney Vacarro would make a nice replacement for Goldson. If Vacarro gets to 13, he surely will not get past the Cowboys at 21 after their release of Sensabaugh.
If the Bucs were to trade out of the first with SF, they would get SF’s KC pick and the 31st pick in the second round which could be traded to the Jets for Revis. Net, net, it would like using your 1st round pick to get Revis and who wouldn’t do that?
The Bucs could do a long-term deal with Revis in the 10 to 12mil range because nobody is going to give him 15mil. I wouldn’t give this transaction a high probability, but one could definitely see how it’s possible!
March 6th, 2013 at 7:03 pm
@Jacko101
Not awol, i have learned that you cannot talk sense to the senseless. He posted the leading receiving numbers to the 28th, 19th and 21st ranked offenses. The Bucs finished 4th, 3rd, and 4th in the division. Rudd was the leading tackler at some point. The point is that it was a wasted pick for a very short production.
March 6th, 2013 at 7:06 pm
@macabee that sounds good, however I don’t think SF would trade a 31 and a 34 for a 13th bro. I really think they like where they are with those picks. I hope you are correct with the 10 to 12 million dollar range I see 10 being logical because he is averaging 8 million at the moment so more money everyone is Happy
March 6th, 2013 at 7:09 pm
Correction: Cowboys at 18
March 6th, 2013 at 7:12 pm
@the-Buc-realist I think the Winslow trade was decent, could it have been better sure, but he shot his own self in the foot being a selfish player.
March 6th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
Jacko101,
That’s not trade down, that’s trade out of the 1st leaving SF with the 13th and their original 31. We would get both their 2nd round picks which we could then trade leaving us with our original 13th pick in the 2nd round!
March 6th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
@jacko101
I guess the pop-star did not find out win-slow was a selfish players during his research into what kind of player the soldier was. Of course the pop-star was the same that hired O-cord Jeff Jagodzinski then realized he had no play book. The point is if we get Revis , we will be looking to trade him or run him out of town within 3 years.
March 6th, 2013 at 7:20 pm
Bye, Bye Adam Schein <—- U Lisping NERD. NFL Radio just improved its Line-Up
March 6th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
Jets d was still solid even after Revis was injured. He is a pro bowl player but is it the system or the player or a little of both. I believe it was a little of both. Talking heads were saying the the jets were done after Revis was injured because he was there best player, which says a lot about the Jets. The d actually played just as well without him. Agree with Joe he is not the final piece to the puzzle. Buc don’t need pro bowlers at every position. They need players that work well within the scheme and system. No need to give up premium draft picks when a couple of very solid corners can be had for one Revis salary.
March 6th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Everyone keeps saying that the Bucs are more than one player away from a SB, they are and his name is Josh Freeman. Revis would not make the D a number 1 pass defense but could put us in the middle of the pack, with improvement by the young players and being healthy on D, this team could win 12 games, how many close games did they play last year, the D just needs to consistently get off the field, D. Revis makes us consistent, other DB’s learn from him and are better. I say go get him if he’s healthy
March 6th, 2013 at 8:04 pm
Winslow was the only reason why the bucs could even sniff 10-6 a few years ago. I would have definately given up a 2nd rounder for that season.
March 6th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
I’m with Rrsrq. If freeman doesn’t free dive last season they would have been in the playoffs. Bucs are closer than a lot of people think.
March 6th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
I don’t see why we can’t get Revis, plus more in free agency. We are well below the cap, plus we are probably getting rid of Quincy and Wright. We should have plenty to get Revis, plus another corner in free agency, and yet another in the draft. If I’m wrong I wouldn’t go after him, but I fail to see why we can’t have Revis plus more.
March 6th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
Um let’s win a playoff game first or better yet let’s make the playoffs before talking about SB. Bucs are in a pass oriented division and need more than one corner no matter how good the corner is.
March 6th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
I agree that we are more than one CB away from the Super Bowl. However, I’m not so sure we aren’t one great CB and maybe one or two decent secondary players away from being in the playoffs. You have to make the playoffs before you can even worry about the Super Bowl. I think it’s a mistake to wait until you feel you are a Super Bowl contender before you start acquiring big-time talent. In the NFL more than any other league, anything can happen once you get in the tournament. I think we are at the point now where we need quality over quantity of talent. We have a lot of role players that can contribute, but we need some elite type players to put us over the top.
I’m also not completely sure we really need a complete overhaul in the secondary. Revis and a #2 corner would be a HUGE upgrade, probably good enough to make our secondary above average. Players like Biggers and Leonard Johnson would be much better if they don’t have to line up against other team’s #1 and #2 WR’s. They had no business doing that last year, especially the way they were left on an island with them. You can leave Revis on an island, and give help to the others, and you just watch the sacks and turnovers pile up.
March 6th, 2013 at 8:50 pm
@Hawaiian Buc
That is a very good point. With the ridiculous amount of cap space we have there is no reason we couldn’t pay Revis and another really good CB in free agency. I understand we dont want to use up all of our cap space in one off-season but we DO have to meet a minimum…
March 6th, 2013 at 9:11 pm
Tyran mathiue( spelling is probably wrong) is probably going to be there after the second round, revis and him would make a nice 1-2 and biggers/Johnson who ever at 3rd would be solid. I can’t remember where I read it, might have been here on this website, but the article basically said the bucs dline would have been one of the best if they didn’t have qbs able to get the ball off before they could even put their first move on a lineman due to the ineptitude of our secondary….so after rambling I’m all 4 revis and living in NY and seeing him play live…we need that in Tampa enough said
March 6th, 2013 at 9:15 pm
I am with our esteemed host on this one.
March 6th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
Don’t forget we have some real secondary coaching this year,not like the joke of a coach we had back there last year.We are close and Johnson will be a very good cb in years to come.Adding a stud like Goldson,with a drafted corner ,a mid range FA cb and some rush help(Hello Osi)we should be much improved and poised to take that next step.Josh will be fine and if our first pick can be a big boy to clog the middle of line on d.I believe we would be a contender for division right from the start.
March 6th, 2013 at 9:21 pm
Luckily, we will know more as free agency unfolds because Revis can’t be traded while still having a major knee blow out… he can’t pass a physical yet.
This gives us time to sign a few top notch free agent CBs.
March 6th, 2013 at 9:24 pm
Yeah, I don’t think we need to bring in 10 free agents or anything crazy like that. We have some talent on this team. We just lack in a few positions (TE, slot WR, CB, and maybe OLB). Much like last year, if we can bring in 3 quality free agents (we tried for 3, got 2) and have a good draft, there’s no reason we shouldn’t make the playoffs and make some noise.
March 6th, 2013 at 9:38 pm
Much rather the Bucs get Revis than keep waiting for players to develop that never do. Draft dline in the 1st, sign a vet corner maybe Jammer and trade for Revis. Bucs are close to a playoff team, just got to get in.
March 6th, 2013 at 10:21 pm
Even though he is great, his new contract would destroy our cap space and truly limit the other important moves we need to make. Not to mention the probably 2nd and 4th round picks it would take to get him. No thank you on this one!!
March 6th, 2013 at 11:03 pm
@FunkYxMunkeY,
I don’t know about that. We are probably going to be in the neighborhood of $40 Million under the cap. Even if we pay him what he’s asking, we still have plenty of money left over. You can always adjust his salary around to take the biggest cap hit now, and less later when we have to resign some of our core players. I really believe we can afford Revis, and then some.
March 6th, 2013 at 11:58 pm
Hey didn’t Vincent Jackson work wonders?
If you can get him, do it. Huge upgrade and he’s got a lot of life left. maybe he isn’t the final piece of the puzzle, but he would be a damn important one.
What’s the el cheapo approach got us? Last place every year? Watching playoffs? Super long losing streaks? Nfl records for futility?
Shake things up!
March 7th, 2013 at 12:10 am
If me and Eric agree on something, it is the right thing to do. It’s pretty clear cut. That doesn’t happen often.
March 7th, 2013 at 1:11 am
I was told the Revis trade is done.. Its all up to Revis signing his contract with tampa bay.. We are also keeping Eric Wright.. He will be starting next to Revis next year..
March 7th, 2013 at 2:49 am
I dont think its a matter of cap space with Revis….I think its a matter of how many of those valuable draft picks we have to give up to get him.
Say what you will about DOM, he is very good at working those picks and trading up and down….if anybody can work some magic, it is probably him.
March 7th, 2013 at 3:14 am
Cant trade a guy with an injury.
March 7th, 2013 at 4:23 am
I’d rather draft Mathieu in the 3rd (if there, he may be gone by then) than spend all of that $$ on Revis. JMHO.
Hey Joe, I know Mathieu isnt well liked by many, but have you thought about doing a story on the possibility of us drafting him? Like him or not, the kids got some serious skill. Even I didnt want him until after I saw him blow others away at the combine. Just me, but I wouldnt hesitate to take a chance on him with a 3rd.
March 7th, 2013 at 5:18 am
Agree with Eric and Hawaiian on this one. Revis is isn’t a “one and done” deal. Plenty of space to aquire another good corner.
Which would be 2 more than we have now!
And while we might not be one proBowl CB from the SuperBowl, we may be one away from 6-10.
We sign two good CBs- then we can change our entire plan for the Draft. Now we can Draft that TE we desperately need. And still can get a decent Rookie CB
We may need to sign Revis, just to have one capable CB in our secondary. If we do, it’s our own damn fault! We wasted years trying to build the secondary around Talibum and Jackson- long after it was clear that neither was going to be professional or skilled enough to entrust with that task. As I said repeatly for the last 3 years- we were betting on dead horses
Signing the uber talented Revis to a gigantic contract- is paying up on bad bets
March 7th, 2013 at 7:37 am
high price tag along with draft pics? bad injury to boot?
I know we have both but since we are about the only team that can afford him Id say no more than a 2nd rounder or 2 3rd rounders, for the jets ,its better than nothing
March 7th, 2013 at 7:55 am
OMG – Eric, Hawaiian, Capt Tina and myself ALL are on the same page about Revis?
I hope the Mayans didn’t make a mistake and really mean 2013 instead of 2012!
It all depends on how his knee tests out and if Atlanta REALLY wants him.
March 7th, 2013 at 8:13 am
Add me to the “trade and pay Revis” camp.
Dude is simply to friggin good to not scoop up.
We did alright trading with the Jets for Keyshaun. Time to wheel and deal with gang green again.
March 7th, 2013 at 8:31 pm
I wouldn’t want to give up too much for Revis, but if the Bucs landed him, I’d be happy, provided he is healthy. So I’m on board too…. I guess. Y’all persuaded me. I still don’t think the Bucs will do it.
April 22nd, 2013 at 9:54 am
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