Talib Talks “Order” And “Too Loose” 2011
June 29th, 2012
Live at a football camp in the Atlanta area this week, on the heels of his community work with Greg Schiano, Aqib Talib joined 790 AM in Atlanta and talked about the New Schiano Order versus the Raheem Morris era and his feelings about the dismissed felony assault case against him in Texas.
Talib doesn’t do many radio interviews, and Joe found him extremely relaxed and a man that knows the Bucs were all out of order in 2011.
On Greg Schiano, Talib said his militant approach is fine for a young team and corrects the problems of the Raheem era, when things were” too loose,” Talib said.
“Man, he’s suited,” Talib said of Schiano. “He is a former college coach, but we have such a young team, you know what I’m sayin’. We are fresh out of college ourselves. So we’re kind of used to that, kind of used to that kind of format of practice, that kind of, you know, discipline kind of thing. That’s kind of where we just came from. I feel like Ronde, man. We did need it. It kind of got a little loose last year, where I’m saying, where people kinda, it got a little too loose around the building, you know. So Schiano came in and definitely brought that order back to the building.”
Talib also said the dismissed assualt charges against him were an attempted money grab by the complainant. And Talib went on to further contrast the old Bucs regime to the new one. “The biggest difference is just, I think, the attendance, man,” Talib said. “We have probably like 97, 98 percent attendance since April 4, since we started our offseason program.”
It sounds to Joe like Talib — and other Bucs — are not just accepting the New Schiano Order, they’re appreciating it coming off the mayhem that engulfed the team in 2011.
Joe thinks that’s a significant distinction and a great sign. Few, if any, remaining Bucs will be thinking the grass is greener with a different type of coach. That should seriously speed up the critical buy-in factor needed for the Bucs to be competitive.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
If he is believing what he is saying I think this is truly a new beginning for Talib as well as the Bucs. The discipline that was so sorely lacking last year has been bought into by everyone left on roster.
This off season has been one filled with joy and hope and positive stories coming out of One Buc. There have been some rough spots and some comments (TOES ON THE LINE! -Solider) and some punches thrown, but all in all I am proud to say that I am a Tampa Bay Buccaneers fan. It’s more of a badge of honor now than at the end of last season.
June 29th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Talib is correct, Tampa under Raheem was like a Bar w/o the alcohol.
June 29th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
As crazy as this sounds, the more I see and hear about Talib, the more I’m starting to think that he is turning into a leader under Schiano.
His coach loves him, Derrick Brooks loves him and all of his teammates love him and now he is starting to do and say the rights things in the community.
He still has a lot to prove but maybe just maybe all it took was strong presence like Schiano to bring out the best in Talib.
June 29th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Sounds to me like the complainant got his money from Talib as part of a confidential settlement agreement, then clammed up and lobbied on behalf of Talib for the State to drop the charges as part of the settlement agreement.
June 29th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Sounds like this team will finally have an identity. Something missing the last 3 years!
June 29th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Of course you think that Thomass……….you never let us down! I bet raisin cookies that look like chocolate chip cookies are the reason you have trust issues!
BTW the government does not control the weather, either!
June 29th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
hmmmn …when will the real Talib show up again……….
June 29th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Talib is saying the right things and showing up for events in the community. I’m not taking that as the signs of a “changed man”, butbut perhaps a sign of a changing man. It will take a lot of work for him to stay, but he genuinely is doing and saying the right things to make it work. I’m rooting for you, Talib.
June 29th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Its contract year he is playing the role of a good guy so he can get paid . But he still needs to preform on the field
June 29th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
@OAR The gov can and does control weather to some extent. Not in large, but they do cloud seed for farming, drought, and release electricity from the sky to prevent forest fires from lightning. They have been doing both for 40 or 50 years. Not that any of it is a bad thing.
June 29th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Have
Very true. I was really meaning conspiracy theorists that think the government causes hurricanes and other weather disasters.
June 29th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
@OAR I realized that after reading your comment a second time. Unfortunately there is no “edit” or “delete post” button. Sorry to bother you 🙂
June 29th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
@Thomas 2.2
You never fail to amaze or let us down with your objective remarks.
June 29th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
@Oar
Are you implying Thomas 2.2 is a Government agent based on his remarks and the similarity to what politicians typically state?
June 29th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Gotta love what those close to Talib are saying, but it’s too early to call him a changed man. Talib has always been a hot-head. Obviously has anger management issues that he needs to address. If he can find a way to control his aggressive and hostile attitude, then the change will be clear to everyone in a couple years.
June 29th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Repeat sex offenders in jail don’t win settlements
June 29th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Love all this positive stuff coming out.
I believe the Schiano hire and ensuing era will be exciting times
for all loyal Buccaneer fans. Getting the best out of the young talent we
have here is something I truly believe Coach is capable of.
We are going to be physical, make less mistakes mentally and grow into
the powerhouse we want to see on Sundays. Get on board now or forever go away.
Buccaneers in 2012?
Can’t WAIT!!!
June 29th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
It sounds like Talib is making an effort. But it will take more than words and showing at 2-3 charity events to convince me. I’m not THAT easy.
However…if his change is real and he continues such efforts, I will hope for the best. The only reason I wanted him off the team was because I didn’t believe he would change without a very harsh reality check (like a long suspension or getting cut).
This is something I hope I am 100% wrong about.
But the truth is, we won’t know if it’s real unless a couple years of good behavior come and go. Just like with Michael Pittman being abusive to his woman. He changed his ways and grew on us.
June 29th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
@Pete Well, what has he done that is that bad? This case was dismissed. That lady quit the “I’m gonna bust a cap in you” money grab. He has only been suspended once(cab driver incident). Everything else was just heresay or practice field testosterone. Stuff that happens all over the league and in every sport. Nothing that should require a player being removed from the team.
June 29th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
As I stated Aqib talib us a good fair man
June 30th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Such a confidential settlement agreement would lead to the disbarment or sanction of the attorneys involved in it.
All this feel goodie stuff about Schiano sounds good, but it’s SOP for players to trash a jettisoned coach. It’s a convenient excuse for poor play. Takes the heat off.
They were all singing rah’s praises as a “players coach” who they would walk through fire for, just like most of you on here were saying. The next Tom Landry and all.
False hope is indeed a strong potion.
June 30th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Have A Nice Day
You are forgetting the fight at the rookie symposium, having to be held back from attacking a ref and disrespecting his head coach in London.
June 30th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
The victim is a family member, very easy for money to change hands or agreements to be made without direct knowledge of it by counsel.
I have also heard of these deals being structured as civil settlement agreements with broad confidentiality language that both sides understand prohibit any dissemination of information as a breach. My understanding is that the victim tells the State that based on the civil settlement that the victim requests the state not pursue charges. Of course it is up to the state whether it proceeds, but with an unwilling and incredible witness, proceeding is unattractive.
June 30th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
@Pete No I didn’t. That all fits under “heresay or practice field testosterone”. The way Goodell suspends people, if those things were as bad as the picture the media painted, don’t you think Goodell would have done something?
Guy was suspended once and fined in his first year for showing up late to a few meetings. Everything else was trivial enough for the team to let it go. Guys like Tanard are gone for being suspended. Winslow is gone for being a bad locker room guy. Ward is gone for being a bad locker room guy. Why is it that Aqib Talib is still here? Because he hasn’t done anything to require him to be let go. I have seen multiple high profile players get into it with their coaches. It happens. A lot. He has done anything that was detrimental enough except to garner a one game suspension. The kid is rough around the edges yet you make him out to be a common criminal.
June 30th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
How about badly lacerating a teammates face after punching a cabby in the head? Failed drug test at the combine. The list is extensive.
On the field Talib has played well at times, poor at times and he is often injured – hardly stellar.
June 30th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
@Thomas I already named the cabbie incident. I believe it was the only time the league has punished him. That incident was 3 years ago. Other than that, he hasn’t really done anything wrong since.
Talib failed a drug test before he was ever an employee of an NFL team. I’m not gonna chastise him for something that happened before he was ever on the team.
From Donald Penn who was directly involved in the helmet incident: “Everything is fine. Brothers fight all the time. It happens. It wasn’t really a fight. It was a verbal fight. I don’t want it to be a bigger deal than it is. This stuff happens all the time, but you don’t hear about it in the media.”
Doesn’t sound like that big of a deal.
Talib is clearly a rough man in transition but he has been doing far better. I just don’t see anything that requires him being let go or crapped on around every corner.
June 30th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Hopefully Talib is going to only be a bad ass between the whistles…
June 30th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Again there is no way the convicted sex offender sitting in prison is getting any settlement.