Winslow Absent Today
May 15th, 2012
The Bucs are practicing today in the May swelter at One Buc Palace and Kellen Winslow, Jr. is not on the field and not attending the first day of the latest optional OTA session.
Feel free to vent and toss around blind speculation in the comments.
Joe can’t hang the guy unless it becomes habitual. He might have a great excuse completely acceptable to the New Schiano Order.
Also not seen on the practice fields of One Buc Palace were wide receiver Dezmon Briscoe and defensive tackle Brian Price
May 15th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Can we trade him for a DE?
May 15th, 2012 at 11:56 am
KW has ALWAYS been the Allen Iverson of the NFL….there’s nothing acceptable, and Schiano didn’t bring in all the extra TE’s for no reason.
May 15th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
I’d like to know why he’s not there.
If it is not a damn good excuse perhaps his arrogance and Key-like “different rules apply” attitude will mark his end here.
I think he should be here barring family emergency or personal health reasons to be with his TEAM!
Maybe he could work on cutting down on offensive interference?
Oh well.
May 15th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
If he cant practice he cant practice we talkin about practice not a game not a game not a game …. Practice ..…… Sorry I had to quote iverson
May 15th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
I’m more interested in why Price is not practicing. I’m sure Winslow has an acceptable excuse. I never understand why the fans bash this guy constantly. I like his play and his in your face style. Sure he can cut down on penalties but I think he’s a great receiving tight end. Back to Price..if the media would report the news and find out whats going on instead of providing an opinion we would all be better off.
May 15th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
If a guy can have his contract hanging in the balance (Like Barth) then Winslow and Briscoe can find a way to get there. We’re talking – new bosses and coaches here. And ones that aren’t afraid to cut players at that.
May 15th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
yeah man…. practice? come on Garv…. It’s practice Son!
These are million dollar knees kid…. we talkin ’bout practice
May 15th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Winslows excuse is probabaly hes in Vegas..
May 15th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
These are voluntary, right? The NFL isn’t allowed to punish a player for not attending voluntary meetings. If they want all the guys to show up, make it mandatory. How many of you would volunteer to work at your job for free?
May 15th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Dez Briscoe is not at practice either. I know this is optional, but this kid is acting like he does not want to play here. There may be valid reasons or has been excused. Don’t know, but if not he may be trying to be cut because he knows there is a better offer out there somewhere. At this point pure speculation, but a situation worth keeping an eye on!
May 15th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Have a Nice Day:
When that “work” actually sharpens your talent in order for you to keep your multi-million dollar job, the same type of “work” most of us did for free as boys for fun in the back yard, Joe couldn’t show up quick enough.
Seems as though roughly 85 players decided to show up for “work” today, for free.
May 15th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Exactly Joe,
Those who want the job the most will do whatever it takes.
Good sign to see so many out there today.
May 15th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Winslow works out in California I think.
This guy has been in the league for years. He can be ready without these OTA’s.
They aren’t a big deal exept when used as an excuse for totally sucking.
Bud Grant won consistently with shorter camps and practices. Back in the day they didn’t even practice in May. Teams played just fine.
May 15th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
@Joe I can understand how someone who can’t play football would be excited at every opportunity to play. But this is a professional. A working man. He is does this for a living. Why would he now come to work for free? That makes no sense.
May 15th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Has Briscoe even showed up to one meeting yet?
May 15th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
After seven seasons, there is minimal to nothing new that Winslow will learn at these OTAs. He has been using a private trainer for his knee for years. But lets make a stink about it. I’m not about to get mad at a man for not volunteering his skills for free.
May 15th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
I’m sure Win-slow is hard at work learning the new playbook……or picking his next tatoo……..or maybe he’s visiting his booster buddy Nevin Shapiro in prison?
May 15th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Free? Too funny! He was and possibly still is the highest paid TE in NFL! Does his play or rankings justify that pay? No!
BTW He could learn how to block, making that huge “free” payday he gets even more worth it! You’re never too old to learn!
May 15th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Have a Nice Day:
So K2 knows the new playbook from the new coaching staff like the back of his hand? Wow, impressive.
Did K2 play last year like he doesn’t need any offseason practice? The only thing K2 doesn’t need any help with just judging by last year is his keen ability to get flagged for offensive interference.
Maybe if K2 was around in the offseason, he wouldn’t be running wrong routes in the last game of the season.
Would you be OK if Davin Joseph, Donald Penn and Carl Nicks also had the same philosophy towards OTAs?
As you are quick to point out, OTAs are voluntary. The Bucs cutting checks to K2 are equally voluntary as well.
It’s a good bet that part of the reason the Bucs were so horrible last year was the slacker attitude by too many.
May 15th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Have A Nice Day,
You have no clue what you are talking about………… as usual.
With Recievers and QB’s, its all about timing and precision (not to quote Raheem, but it is true). If you noticed last season with no OTA’s and minimal offseason work, K2 and Free’s timing was off all season long. Repetition, repetition, repetition. can’t say it enough times. Pat Riley used to say that “Practice doesn’t make perfect, Perfect practice makes perfect”. You can’t achieve perfect timing without working together. When you do the same thing repeatedly, eventually it becomes a conditioned response. K2 may be getting good workouts and keeping in shape in San Diego, but he is hurting his ability to be the best receiver he can be, by not working with Freeman. He can catch passes from Drew Brees for weeks out ther but it isn’t the same as catching them from Freeman, because of timing and location. If you don’t understand this, I doubt I could ever explain it where you would. And you’re a Doctor??? Must be kidding.
Briscoe has the same problem. Take 3 tires, put them on one truck. Take the 4’th tire and put it on the exact same type of truck in the last spot, and it will wear differently, I guarantee it. Unless you have been on a small team or been in a tight tactical unit, you would not understand how crucial it is missing one of your key team members, in any situation, including practice. You will never win a Championship like that.
May 15th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
The best thing to do when you have a losing argument, is to abandon ship or STFU. Please quit while you are ahead. We all say stupid things from time to time. except Thomas. He is always right.
May 15th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Working for free, above and beyond what is required, is how you become successful. Work 8, get paid for 8, and you’ll never achieve greatness. Have you ever heard of the term 1%’r? These are the people that never give up, never turn away, and always go above and beyond to accomplish the mission. This is why unions are in sad shape because they hold you back and never allow you to excel by going over and above to be great and get ahead. Who thinks like this? What an incredibly stupid way to look at the World. When I dug ditches years ago, I hated it, but I was the best damn ditch digger on the planet, and I can still do it well. Whatever you do, do whatever you have to do to be the best at it. Doing the required minimum will never get you there. I promise and I am speaking from experience. Idiot.
May 15th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Joe is right.
You guys are foolish.
We have a brand new coaching staff – everything is new. K2 desperately needs to familiarize himself with coaches that will expect him to actually work.
All of you statistical geeks, research Winslow on PFF or FO and look at all stats including routes run and targets vs productivity –
Winslow is one of the NFL’s worst tight ends.
He demands a lot of balls and compared to targets – his stats suck.
Dump his sorry ass.
May 15th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Have a Nice Day,
They make millions of dollars, just because it’s voluntary it doesn’t mean that they are working for free. They get paid to play football at the highest level, being a part of off season workouts is part of being successful. Voluntarily doesn’t mean free it means you better have a good excuse if you aren’t there. Your argument is completely wrong.
They get paid a salary and like any other job that get’s paid a salary, you have to do the work and put in the time to justify the salary. Last time I checked NFL players don’t get paid by the hour. My goodness.
May 15th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
K2 need to be a better blocker or I say we cut him if he can block our o line gets that much better. He’s a liability because linebackers will abuse him knowing he can’t block and he definitely needs to work on catching two point conversion passes its his fault we didn’t give green bay there first loss last year and we came damn close thanks kellen and myron Lewis
May 15th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
It is voluntary. End of discussion. Voluntary absolutely means free. The NFLPA and the NFL came to the conclusion that they were allowed have voluntary sessions and could not punish players for not showing up. You are mad at a guy for following the rules. Ridiculous.
May 15th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
I can just see Winslow going Allen Iverson all over again…..'”Practice? Practice?? We’re talking about practice here. Your giving me a hard time about practice???” I say get rid of him, the guy can’t practice and when you can’t practice under Schiano you probably aren’t much good. If his knees are that shot then get someone who can actually run a route without an offensive pass interference call. One thing I will say is that the Bucs probably prolonged Winslows career another 3 or 4 years beyond what most any other team might do for him. Can you imagine him on the Giants with Coughlin?? Please lets just cut our losses now.
May 15th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
@BigMac You crack me up i.e. giving lessons on how one becomes a part of the 1% and how Kellen is doing it wrong, even though Kellen himself is already apart of the 1%.
May 15th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
CCCCCCCCCCCCClueless again.
Thomas is right and may back this up for me with the stats. K2 is not anywhere close to being a top 10 TE in the NFL. His performance last season was crap and his effort was probably worse. he was seen on the sidelines arguing with Freeman, when usually he was at fault. He demands the ball and then doesn’t make key plays when he has the opportunity. I am still upset about the PI call against the Lions in 2010′ that kept the Bucs from the playoffs. But the bottom line is that K2 was the one that put himself in that position for the ref to make a judgement call in the first place.
Your football knowledge is so severely lacking, but your thoughts on life are even worse. I’m sorry I addressed you in the first place because you are one of those people that doesn’t get it, never will get it, and just don’t have the ability to reason and accept common sense views in your minuscule pea of a brain. Oh yeah, you’re a cardiologist and make $300K per year. Lady, I’m truly not impressed and I’ll save my energy by not addressing you again. I’ll let the other intelligent posters on this site deal with you. Beyond frustrating.
May 15th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
@BigMac I never once argued anything about Winslow being a top ten TE. Your ramblings are completely incoherent.
You just make things up and attribute them to others. For that, you don’t need me. You could hold a perfectly good argument all by yourself.
May 15th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Okay 1 more.
“You could hold a perfectly good argument all by yourself.” True, I agree.
Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus.
You are from some Black Hole somewhere.
1% > K2 = point of rambling.
Would you like to go out for coffee sometime? I’m buying.
May 15th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
K2 needs to be there if nothing else out of respect! I would like to know where the heck Price is and how over weight he is?
May 16th, 2012 at 12:20 am
@BigMacAttack “1% > K2 = point of rambling”
What? Make sense, boy!
May 16th, 2012 at 12:20 am
@BigMacAttack “1% > K2 = point of rambling”
What? Make sense, boy!