Coaching Search Still Hitting Roadblocks
February 17th, 2012
Yes, the Bucs need a special teams coach. Yes, the Bucs need a defensive coordinator. Yes, the Bucs are still out there knocking on doors and not always getting the answer they desire.
The latest “no thanks” delivered to Team Schiano appears to be from Alabama Crimson Tide offensive line coach Jeff Stoutland, so reports Al.com’s Alabama beat writer Izzy Gould, a source Joe knows well and trusts.
Stoutland was invited to visit with Tampa Bay, but decided he wanted to stay at Alabama according to the source.The Buccaneers are searching to fill vacancies on first-year coach Greg Schiano’s staff. He replaced Raheem Morris, who was fired with his entire staff last month after Tampa Bay finished the 2011 season with a 10-game losing streak.Stoutland has been with the Crimson Tide for one season, and helped guide Alabama to its 14th national championship with a 21-0 win over LSU on Jan. 9.Stoutland is credited with helping the offensive line develop Barrett Jones into a successful starting left tackle en route to earning the Outland Trophy. He also successfully managed Jones’ vacancy at right guard where Anthony Steen and Alfred McCullough shared time.Stoutland will enter the second year of a two-year contract that pays him $395,000 annually.
Stoutland, 49, was probably best known for being interim coach at Miami after Randy Shannon was fired.
Ultimately, Joe only cares about what the eventual Bucs coaching staff turns out on the field. However, Joe can’t say there’s no value in having the staff together early.
This week, offensive coordinator Mike Sullivan said P.J. Fleck and Brian Angelico, (the supposed new Bucs receivers and tight ends coach, respectively) are key contributors in developing the new language of the offense and all that goes into building a new playbook. Therefore, Joe suspects it would be a big positive to have the rest of the staff by Sullivan’s side during that process.
February 17th, 2012 at 10:16 am
THIS IS ALL THE GLAZERS FAULT!!! BLAH!!! DOMINIK SUCKS!!! BLAH!!! I AM NOT A TRUE BUCS FAN I JUST LIKE TO COMPLAIN!!! BLAH!!! BLAH!!! BLAH!!! BITCHING!!! MOANING!!!
All that aside I just wanted to start this thread off the way I assume it will go.
February 17th, 2012 at 10:29 am
We have egg on our face in this late coaching search.
There is no positive PR spin at this point, none at all.
The Bucs are floundering at a time when they should be, as other teams are, huddled together with a direction and purpose. We still don’t have a full staff.
I’m excited about the coaching start and what could be…maybe it works out in the end.
February 17th, 2012 at 10:42 am
I don’t understand!!! Can’t the Bucs just put a gun to his head and force him to be our O-line coach???!! This is Pop Star’s fault. If we would have just offered him 396,000 dollars it would be a done deal but NOOOOOO….cheap Glazers wouldn’t go the extra grand. Just more of the same. We’ll end up with the O-line coach from Tulane. I’m sure of it. We’re doomed.
February 17th, 2012 at 10:42 am
I liked the Glazers approach much better than most. Most owners go out and throw money at the first guy they think is the next great thing or the first guy they think is the biggest name. Taking your time and interviewing ALOT of people from all over and opening every door is definately the way to go when hiring anyone for anything.
That said, the fact that it is not all together by now is bad. They can spin this all they want, the bottom line is they did not expect this many teams and coaches to block interviews or decline them.
Basically taking your time and doing your homework only works from the end of the season to 1 week after the SB.
Anything longer than that becomes detrimental
February 17th, 2012 at 10:43 am
I AM COMPLAINING ABOUT PEOPLE COMPLAINING ON A MESSAGE BOARD BASED UPON PEOPLES OPINIONS. SEE HOW THAT IS DIFFERENT?
Have they even interviewed QB coaches yet?
February 17th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Why not bring back some of the old coaches ??
The previous RB coach was reportedly a great coach.
He came with his buddy Jagodzinski and when he got fired he kept on chuggin.
Why not interview Mangurian for OL ???
February 17th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Raye is actually very good with RBs, it is his biggest strength imo. They should have made him RB coach and convinced Davis to be DC. We’d be almost set other than a few spots. Instead we have these weird advisor jobs, no DC, and many missing position coaches still with the combine right around the corner.
February 17th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Right on Bucfanjeff,, we have egg on our face it sucks but we do… I don’t like that we are being turned down by other teams be that Pro or College, but i can not blame them. We will find people in the end. I just wonder how this will put us behind the other teams that have new coaches..
I do like the coaches and assistants advisers (w/e) we have in place as of now. But we do need to get the rest all in place soon.
February 17th, 2012 at 11:23 am
all this scrutiny and we haven’t got to the draft yet…lol since when does the coaching search have the same criticism as the draft ..lol
RELAX PEOPLE !
February 17th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
It’s a shame we have to hear about every coach that is not hired or does not want to be, is happier where he is.
I just want to know who IS hired and learn about him when that happens.
I admit it’s strange not being able to find a DC by February 17, but it’s better than hiring the wrong guy on January 17…….right?
February 17th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Big question for all the complainers…are you still made about the Offensive Coordinator search? No. You know why?
Because nothing matters but the end result. All your belly-aching will disappear once the staff is set.
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Here’s a small insight to the future…if it is mainly the WR and TE coaches helping Sullivan develop the playbook, that points toward a vertical offense.
February 17th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Pete,
C’mon man!
It is brutal that we can’t fill a staff. The Glazers are being blackballed by other NFL teams as a result of their douche baggerey.
Give a Crap, Spend that Cap!
February 17th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Whaaa!!!!! I don’t know anything! Whaaa! Tell me something! Whaaa!!!!! We don’t have our coach set! Whaaa!!!! (insert baseless Dominik/Glazer bash)! Whaaa!!!!
February 17th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
@Jared
Why don’t u stfu? It’s called giving your opinion on a message board! If you have a problem with it, don’t come this site.
OK? NOW LET US SPEAK. (imitating all his caps)
February 17th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Patrick, I suspect about half these ‘always positive’ guys that are downright nasty to anyone they disagree with are paid PR guys.
February 17th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Jared,
Just bc you’re Mark D’s baby’s momma downy mean you need to not face the facts.
February 17th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Yeah they are paid pawns of Glazerdom.
Cheaper for Glazerdom to pay PR propaganda artists rather then the *REAL* deal.
Salary Cap commitment question marks all over the board.
February 17th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
As long as Joe lets people state their opinion, I’ll continue to do so. I say plenty of positive things, but, I call a spade a spade, when I see it.
I like Schiano, and I like Sullivan. They have strengths, and they have flaws.
Sorry, I don’t drink the kool-aid, and ignore some of obvious gaffs my by Dom and My Three Doofs.
If things were all spring flowers and cheerios all the time, I doubt Joe would have the traffic that he enjoys.
Perspective and differing opinion draws repeat page views. Deal with it, or go be Doms intern.
February 17th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
@ Alstott Dominik needs a intern, Where can I apply?
February 17th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
I see the conspirators have uncorked the bitter red whine!
Ever think that the other teams that are blocking/denying us form interviewing their coaches is because its late in the football year? I mean, those teams would have to then go and find someone to fill the hole that was left! Then there’s always the “he’s a damn good coach for our team” why dont we let his contract play out! I find it hard to believe certain teams are blackballing us because we did the same thing to a totally DIFFERENT TEAM than them!