Butch Davis To Reunite With Greg Schiano?
January 30th, 2012
Well, sooner or later — preferably, sooner — new Bucs coach Greg Schiano is going to have to build a staff. Per Peter King of SI.com, in his must-read “Monday Morning Quarterback,” it appears Butch Davis will rejoin Schiano in Tampa Bay.
Greg Schiano wants Butch Davis on his staff.
Not sure whether Davis would be defensive coordinator or an assistant head coach, but Schiano’s interested in adding him to the staff at Tampa Bay. Schiano was Davis’ defensive coordinator at the University of Miami in 1999 and 2000, and they have remained close. Davis hasn’t coached in the NFL since he was dismissed by the Browns after the 2004 season. He’d be a good sounding board for Schiano.
That would be a very good hire. Davis is a solid defensive coach, a 4-3 defensive coach — and we know Schiano is a “4-3 fundamentalist,” so rockstar general manager Mark Dominik called him. And as King suggested, Davis could add experience to the staff since he was a head coach in the NFL.
Now since we’re speculating here — the above information Joe’s sure King got from Schiano since the two talked — Joe’s going to throw a name out that Joe has mentioned before: Tom Bradley.
Ben Jone of StateCollege.com, a longtime beat writer/columnist covering Penn State, had this missive on Twitter the day of Joe Paterno’s memorial:
@Ben_Jones88: Tom Bradley’s name popping up with Tampa Bay and Rutgers. As someone who stood next to him today, I assure you his job wasn’t on his mind
Ironically, Schiano succeeded Bradley as Penn State’s secondary coach when Bradley moved to coach linebackers. Joe, is giddy at the thought of Bradley possibly coming here. As Penn State’s defensive coordinator, there were few better and no team year in and year out played with better fundamentals than Penn State’s defense. That’s a trait sorely missed here.
With Davis as the defensive coordinator and perhaps Bradley as the linebackers coach or secondary coach, the Bucs would have the makings of a damned fine defensive staff.
January 30th, 2012 at 9:10 am
hire both of them
January 30th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Davis DC
Shannon LBC
Bradley DBC
January 30th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Bradley as LB coach and Dave Campo for Db coach. Maybe tomsula for d-line coach?
January 30th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Nice! Get busy Bucs. Time is our enemy!
January 30th, 2012 at 9:33 am
I think Davis would be a great hire as Asst HC, like you said, it will give Schiano a sounding board with NFL HC experience, something that has been lacking. I also like Bradley as DC, although I rather have an NFL level coordinator, I do like the idea of college coaches at the position level, as all they do is teach, which again this team has lacked that aspect of coaching for a while.
January 30th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Butch Davis would be a great hire. Go get ’em.
January 30th, 2012 at 9:35 am
One more thing, someone pointed out yesterday, since Az blocked us from talking to McNulty b/c the position wasn’t at the HC level, couldn’t we amend the position of OC to Asst HC/OC, which would force the Cardinals to have to let him talk to us, that is if Schiano really wants him that bad.
January 30th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Seriously Joe! If those guys were any good they would’ve have jobs in those positions in the NFL already, they are more likely to fail than to be a “damn fine defemnsive staff” I guess that’s what MD told Joe to write to hype up this coaching staff mess.
January 30th, 2012 at 9:37 am
I watched tuesday’s practice at the senior bowl, when butch davis was on there. Man this guy has a great understanding for the game he really knows how to evaluate talent too from the way he was talking.
count me in and Amped if we hire butch davis
January 30th, 2012 at 9:53 am
@flmike. The position would have to be for Head Coach only. Every team would play that game when denied an interview if that were the case.
January 30th, 2012 at 9:56 am
k_bassulka:
Helps to do research before you type.
And suggesting that Joe is writing posts under the direction of anyone from the Bucs is a good way to get run from these premises.
Don’t lie about Joe.
January 30th, 2012 at 10:12 am
I’m interested in whomever Coach Schiano is interested in. Totally, completely his call and I’m all in with whomever he goes with and signs to his staff.
They have to be on the same page and know who is boss.
January 30th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Like the Butch Davis idea. I do not know much about selecting coaches and coordinators. But it would be nice to see one big splash name on the coaching staff. . . . Derrick Brooks for line backers coach. And when Ronde retires in the next few yeasr, he becomes the DB coach and begins his rise in ranks too.
January 30th, 2012 at 10:15 am
on the D side im not so worried, and i looks nice tome this option, butch davis will be more than fine for us.
im worried about the offense, thats the side we need to cover, busc are all about number 5 and we need to cover him ASAP!!!
January 30th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Joe’s not trying to be an arse here, but he really doesn’t know whether to laugh or cry when he reads the following.
Sigh.
January 30th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Brooks was offered a job by Raheem but chose to go elsewhere. He is currently already working for an arena team I believe but not sure. However, would love to see Brooks come in during OTAs and training camp to help coach the linebackers a bit. Let’s go get devonta David and have Brooks spend a little time with him. He may be small but he fights through blockers and is one hell of a tackler.
January 30th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Butch Davis is out of work, right?
What’s the hold up? Sign him!!!
January 30th, 2012 at 10:21 am
thibis:
You mean Levonte David at Nebraska? If so Joe has been pimping that guy for months. Hopefully he falls to the Bucs in the second round.
January 30th, 2012 at 10:22 am
The train wreck for Butch at Cleveland wasnt pretty. However, I suppose since Marty everybody has had a train wreck in Cleveland.
Sileo sure raved about him today.
As to Bradley, 11 years as Penn State DC speaks for itself.
Interesting little U/Penn State thing we got going here.
January 30th, 2012 at 10:27 am
thibs don’t forget, he freelances a ton, and didn’t have good gap discipline.
January 30th, 2012 at 10:32 am
If Butch Davis could get us an attacking-style of defense like Robert Quinn/Marvin Austin at UNC, this could be special! Our defense needs a dose of “THE U” attitude!
January 30th, 2012 at 10:34 am
I’ve always liked Butch Davis and finding success in Cleveland is like…………… well I’ll just leave it at that.
Our new Coach is on the right track.
January 30th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Chris Weinke QB coach. He has that QB academy in Bradenton that Cam Newton attended this last offseason. Stresses fundamentals.
Perfect for Five.
January 30th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Nice defensive start, what about offense?
January 30th, 2012 at 10:45 am
And chris weinke? Eric, please..you’ve got to be kidding.
January 30th, 2012 at 10:48 am
I wonder who Schiano is targeting as OC. I like Hue Jackson. His resume is excellent and he actually didn’t jo a bad job as HC this year in Oakland. He loves to take shots down the field along with a power running game (McFadden/Bush). Perfect fit for what Schiano is tryng to run.
Butch Davis would obviously be a tremendous hire, and like others have alluded to, he has a fairly large coaching tree that he could bring along with him dating back to Dallas, the U, Cleveland and UNC.
January 30th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Bill Belicheat did not do to well in Cleveland last I checked,so everybody hanging that over Davis needs to step back…he would be a excellent hire !
January 30th, 2012 at 11:01 am
GO GET THEM, LOOK LIKE GREAT HIRES, GOT TO LOVE BUTCH DAVIS ON THIS STAFF, AS DC OR ANYTHING ELSE, LIKE YOU SAID JOE, GREAT SOUNDING BOARD FOR SCHAINO, GETTING EXCITED AGAIN ABOUT THE BUCS, BEEN AWHILE SINCE I COULD SAY THAT.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:05 am
@bucfanjeff:
“And chris weinke? Eric, please..you’ve got to be kidding.”
Ask Cam Newton about Chris Weinke. Do some research.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:07 am
I keep hearing the name Butch Davis, so I did a little research.
Butch went 63-43 so far as college. It wasn’t absolutely fantastic, but it is a winning record. The problem comes in with his NFL record:
BUTCH DAVIS
2001
Wins 7-9
51 Sacks
24 Fumble Recoveries
21 Interceptions
3 TDs
2002
Wins 9-7
35 Sacks
17 Fumble Recoveries
22 Interceptions
1 TD
2003
Wins 5-11
40 Sacks
30 Fumbles
18 Interceptions
4 TDs
2004
Wins 3-7
41 Sacks
30 Fumbles
21 Interceptions
2 TDs
So here’s the deal…Butch Davis, in the form of wins and losses plain out sucked with a 24-34 record. That’s as Head Coach I believe. But he’s not going to be head coach, is he? So instead, let’s look at his defensive numbers compared to our Tony Dungy defense:
TONY DUNGY
1996
Wins 6-10
30 Sacks
0 Fumble Recoveries
20 Interceptions
3 TDs
1997
Wins 10-6
32 Sacks
0 Fumble Recoveries
12 Interceptions
4 TDs
1998
Wins 8-8
28 Sacks
0 Fumble Recoveries
18 Interceptions
2 TDs
1999
Wins 11-5
42 Sacks
0 Fumble Recoveries
16 Interceptions
1 TDs
2000
Wins 10-6
38 Sacks
0 Fumble Recoveries
13 Interceptions
1 TDs
2001
Wins 9-7
47 Sacks
19 Fumble Recoveries
12 Interceptions
0 TDs
First…Davis can rack up the sacks. He’s consistently had acceptable sack numbers. Second…Butch Davis defenses cause and recover a high number of fumbles. In fact…Dungy didn’t have any until his last year here. His defense ALSO outclassed Tony Dungy’s with Interceptions AND Touchdowns.
His defense COULD be good. Very good.
But then, if you look at his college record…it is 12-23 since going back to coach college. So most of his college wins came BEFORE his NFL experience.
In fact, since coaching in the NFL, he has gone 36-57 as a coach.
In the past 8 years of him coaching, the man has had 6 losing seasons…that’s 2-6.
Ironically, Tony’s best year of defense here was his final season…the one that got him fired and the Bucs went 9-7.
So you be the judge…
Would Davis be a good hire or a bad one? Draw your own conclusions, I’ve provided the numbers.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:13 am
The following players were coached or recruited by Davis in his stint at Miami: Ray Lewis (LB), Ed Reed (S), Yatil Green (WR), Kenard Lang (DE), Kenny Holmes (DE), Duane Starks (CB), Edgerrin James (RB), Clinton Portis (RB), Frank Gore (RB), Bubba Franks (TE), Dan Morgan (LB), Damione Lewis (DT), Santana Moss (WR), Reggie Wayne (WR), Bryant McKinnie (OT), Jeremy Shockey (TE), Phillip Buchanon (CB), Mike Rumph (CB), Andre Johnson (WR), Jerome McDougle (DE), Willis McGahee (RB), William Joseph (DT), Sean Taylor (S), Kellen Winslow II (TE), Jonathan Vilma (LB), D.J. Williams (LB), Vernon Carey (OT), Vince Wilfork (DT), Antrel Rolle (CB), and Kelly Jennings (CB). Moreover, Davis’ smaller-than-usual recruiting classes are widely considered to have laid the foundation for Miami’s undefeated national championship team of 2001
from Wiki .. Damnnnn
January 30th, 2012 at 11:17 am
FYI…Brooks will not agree to be linebackers coach Brown Bag Crumpled Up, Baby!. He is part owner of the Storm now, and spends time working with them.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:19 am
@jvato24
I didn’t know Davis coached offense…those 10 offensive players must have learned a lot from him…
January 30th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Snook, too much Cam Newton love for you. Let him reproduce his success before you put a superman cape on him. An accurate pocket pass he was not. His success is off the option and scrambling…that won’t last long in the NFL.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Ok SO … Head Coaches with Defensive backgrounds only recruit Defensive players ?? Thanks
January 30th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Just having him on this team would help us as a football team even in scouting as he clearly has an eye for talent based off the talent he has put into the NFL.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:36 am
@ JOE
…Hey Joe, why am I not hearing Trestman’s name out there for OC ?? ….he’s got ties to the “U” as well….QB Coach and something else as I recall…..how realistic would that be ??
January 30th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Ive never known Mr. Brooks to fail at anything he put his mind to.
Having him as linebackers coach is at least no bigger a reach than hiring a guy from the Big East to be the Head Coach.
Not that I am advocating it, but ill bet 55 would do a fine job.
BTW Joe Tony Dungy’s very first coaching job was the Defensive Backs Coach for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Right after he finished his playing days.
That sorta worked out didn’t it? Arent the Steelers the Bucs “model”?
Little respect for 55 please.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:41 am
@ pete – Belichek coached cleveland to and his numbers are not pretty, you can draw your own conclusions there….
btw noleriff trestman would make a great OC
January 30th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Great players don’t always make gret coaches or even good coaches.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:47 am
@jvato24
I haven’t said that Davis be coach or not be coach yet. I just did some research and posted the numbers. As to offensive players…it doesn’t matter who he recruited. He didn’t train them. His offensive staff did.
@eric
I agree that Brooks would excel as a coach…very much so…I just don’t think he would agree to do it for the Bucs when he is busy helping to coach the Storm as an owner.
I’ll tell you…I wouldn’t mind Sapp being assistant defensive line coach…just to get the swagger back in here. I remember him along the sidelines…the man refused to give up. That’s something our line would benefit from.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Even though I am more excited about the offense of the current bucs I don not see them ever being a high scoring Brady like machine. If the bucs truly want to be able to compete in the NFC South it must be based on the backbone of a great defense that will see likes of Brees, Newton and Ryan twice a year. There’s simply no way around that. That being said it looks the bucs realize this and are building accordingly. Good defense, a real running game to make play action and Freeman succeed.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:50 am
@Chris FWC
True enough, but it isnt a rediculous idea. Certainly not laughable as Joe stated.
Background is no guarrantee of anything in coaching.
Mr. Dungy too that route to Super Bowl winning coach.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Pete .. My point is the guy has an eye for talent. And can help build this team as well as Coach it.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Joe,
When you cling to this ridiculous rockstar label it causes everyone not a potted plant to wonder if pop star or his mother have taken control of your consciousness bc nobody else would ever believe that that nickname is in the ballpark of being applicable.
Might as well name RahRah slow talker.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
We also coulda had the pro-bowl MVP for a measly second rounder had rockstar stepped up to the plate.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
blah bla blah 2.idiot next subject….
January 30th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
@bucfanjeff:
Give him the credit he deserves. Newton had a great season. I don’t see him dropping off much. Too much athletic ability and a great arm.
Knocking Chris Weinke is ridiculous. Are you one of those guys who thinks that if a guy couldn’t play in the NFL, how could he be a coach?
January 30th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Refering to the Cam Newton comments I agree that in order for him to imprees me that he would have to duplicate this season again next season. History shows that its not likley Freeman is a good example of that and teams will be better prepaired for him next season. I was trying to write that as biased as possible without my hatetred of the panthers reflect on my comments lol.
January 30th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
OMFG, Butch Davis !!!!!
What a great decision to bring him to Tampa.
January 30th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Marc Trestman for OC or QB coach atleast…..not sure if he would leave Montreal HC job but he would do wonders helping Josh Freeman progress
January 30th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Davis DC, Trestman OC, Bradley LBC would be outstanding.
January 30th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
eric:
OUTSTANDING choice. He wants to get into coaching and he told Joe recently he has had feelers from both college and the NFL. He’s just waiting for the right opportunity.
Weinke works with all sorts of quarterbacks down at IMG.
January 30th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Freeman was talking Weinke up after the training down there
January 30th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
@Pete – If the offense guys in college do not count, then you should have went back and compared Dungy and Davis as DCs instead of judging their defense as head coaches. Dungy was the head coach, but Monte was the DC. I am not sure who was the DC for Davis is Cleveland, but it would make more sense since the DC and the defensive staff would be the guys training them. Just saying…
January 30th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Can we call him Chris Weinke Deinke DOO ??
January 30th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
I like Trestman but he’s not a power running OC. Doubt Schiano targets him.
Schiano did work with Rob Chudzinski though…just sayin. I know it’s a lateral move but Chud is a Florida guyand we can outbid Carolina.
January 30th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
@Pete…you do know that Davis coached the Dallas D that won back to back super bowls in the early 90’s don’t you?
January 30th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
I like Weinke and think he would be a good choice, even Jeff Carlson. You don’t have to a great player to be a good coach, just have the right understanding and ability to teach. I’m sure they will get it all worked out with a good staff, hopefully pretty soon.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:24 am
Todd Haley could emerge as a candidate for Pittsburgh’s offensive coordinator position, league sources said. Good enough for Steeler’s should be good enough for the Buc’s