Greg Schiano Addresses The Media
January 27th, 2012
The Bucs’ new head coach, Greg Schiano, took the podium at One Buc Palace this afternoon and talked about his philosophy and fielded questions from a gallery of media.
Here are the highlights:
*Schiano said Mark Dominik “was a huge reason I felt comfortable this was the place.” He cited their comfortable communication through the interview process, hiring and post-hiring processes.
*On why he bonded with Team Glazer and Dominik: “I learned how important family is to them. No. 2, I learned how committed they are to be the very best. That’s me.”
*Schiano said, “Our team will be built around a humble unselfish attitude of sacrifice. It’s hard to find that in today’s world. …That’s who we’ll be. … [Our staff] will collectively teach, as a staff there will be one common message.”
*So what are the new core beliefs?: Trust. Belief. Accountability.
*Schiano clearly is skilled at dodging direct answers to direct questions. Joe has no problem with that. Raheem Morris was one of a kind in his open style. Schiano clearly didn’t want to name names of Buccaneers that impressed him.
*”There is going to be a Buccaneer way. You gotta believe in that, or this isn’t the place,” Schiano said.
*What will the new Buccaneers look like, Coach? “Great defense, win the special teams battle, and be a physical offensive football team that takes shots down the field.”
*Schiano said multiple times that he’s impressed by the Bucs’ “young and talented core” of players, from his own observations and from those of his contacts in the NFL.
*”I understand we gotta reconnect with our fan base,” Schiano said. He said he knows the Bucs have to “earn their trust.”
*Schiano said he “grew up in the coaching system of Joe Paterno. That’s where I really cut my teeth.” The Paterno way instilled in him is about efficiency, and he’s all about efficiency. “Time is our enemy,” Schiano said, referencing a common refrain of Paterno.
*The Bucs’ new head coach loves “competition. ” That’s what makes everybody rise to the top,” Schiano said. “We’re going to compete in every drill.
*Schiano said he’s not concerned about where his assistants come from — NFL or college. He’ll be hiring “great teachers and great communicators. The key is hiring the right people. Whatever gets the desired result, I’m not that concerned [where they come from.]”
January 27th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
This guy is a leader, I love it. Hes humble, confident and compassionate. And most importantly, he quoted JoePa.
January 27th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
I am installing us as co-favorites to win the Big East this year.
January 27th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Outstanding. Great press confernce. He wont be his own Defensive Coordinator which means he has shelved his ego. Very impressive. I like it. I know he hasnt won a game yet, but good so far. Now lets have a great draft and Free Agency.
Welcome to Tampa Coach….
January 27th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
@Joe:
“Raheem was one of a kind in his open style.”. That wasn’t a style, it was being incapable of artfully answering a question.
Rah dodged constantly: why do you think we know that his grandma ran like a bulldog and his uncles picked on him? It wasnt bc some reporter asked him: did your grandma run like a bulldog?
Schiano wasnt “dodging” the question about which bucs impressed him bc: a) when you lose 10 straight nobody is impressive; b) you dont walk into a job and start elevating certain players above others before you have worked a day with them.
Come on Joe, lets not start calling the coach a question dodger at the initial press conference.
January 27th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
I heard Sean King complaining about how many times he mentioned Mark D. I am not a huge fan of our GM, but Mark is carrying out the Glazer’s philosophy…so they are not going to hire someone who will come out and say F*** Mark Dominic. They are going to hire someone who fits in with the “team” mentality. I am taking a wait and see approach. I liked how he handled himself and what coach had to say.
January 27th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
TomC and BucFanSTpa
Ditto! Ditto! Ditto!
January 27th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
I thought you had to play FAST .. HARD .. and SMART to win ‘??\
haha jk
Thank Goodness we didnt get Chip Kelly … Im sorry .. he worried me.
Maybe I am off on this but it seems many of the College football coaches to turn into BUSTS were Offensive minded ?? Maybe Im Wrong.
Talib wont be re-signed. THis guy is different. He will take the garbage out.
January 27th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Did he say shots down the field. Oh yeah that will be nice.
January 27th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Don’t expect too much out of free agency, but I expect bright things in the future.
January 27th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Personally, loved the news conference. Liked the fact that he didn’t single out particular players for praise and when asked about Freeman, first thing he alluded to was that competition would make everyone a better player. Don’t see this team as having coaches’ favorites and loke that EVERY player will have to work to EARN their spot. While Raheem was open, half of what he said didn’t make much sense, and another third contradicted what he had just said. Don’t miss that. Really excited about the coming seasons, welcome Coach Schiano.
January 27th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
*like
January 27th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Im sorry Thomas. THose Raheem Quotes will live with me forever. He said some of the funniest things I have ever heard any coach say. I thought it was great.
Until we started losing and he didnt have any answers.
January 27th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
@Thomas, if he doesn’t want to answer the question because of lack of familiarity with the players, then logically his answer dodges the question. Additionally, is it really necessary to keep blasting Raheem? If so, go on the Redskins site and do it.
Good grief dude.
January 27th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
..and to be clear, there is nothing wrong with dodging – which means to evade or avoid.
January 27th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Rudyyyyyyyyyyyyy, Ruddyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, Rudyyyyyyyyyy
Glazers and Dominik want to be the very best?
Watch your back Mr. Schiano.
January 27th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Okay folks here’s to looking forward…
Our head coach is Greg Schiano, not Raheem Morris, John Gruden nor Tony Dungy, that era is over, I assume that the Tampa 2.0 is gone for good as well, thank god. I’m sold until I’m not, good luck Coach Schiano, with this fan base you’re gonna have to sell your butt off for the foreseeable future, think of the Tampa area as a really BIG college campus, then work from that.
January 27th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Bucfanjeff: just responding to Joe who decided to inject rahrah into the article in a way that suggested a negative about Coach Schiano.
January 27th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Trust. Belief. Accountability i like that im on board !!! Go Bucs
January 27th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
This was much better than Raheem’s 1st press conference. That’s a great start.
Secondly, Raheem won 4 games with this team last year. That mean any other idiot could win at least 6.
January 27th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
I liked his press conference and he seems like a no non-sense guy.
I really want to know whom the coordinators will be and I hope they act swiftly.
Good luck Schiano, I’m pulling for you.
January 27th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
If you can’t get behind this guy after listening to the press conference, you are dead inside. He is everything that Raheem was not. Go Bucs!
January 27th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
I thought it was a positive press conference that went very well. I listened for myself.
Those who want to go 2.2 on here 24/7 will continue to and would if Bill Belichick were just hired, or Vince Lombardi himself.
Sure it’s annoying and predictable, but it’s also as asinine as it’s authors.
As in the past we can also unfortunately continue to read Raheem Morris bashing from those who offer nothing else, just as we did after Jon was fired, and Tony, and Sam……..
But wasn’t that press conference a nice positive kick in the pants? I thinnk so though I need to hear what Shaun King and Ian Beckles thought before I can REALLY be upbeat……….LOL
January 27th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
All I could expect from a first-time meet and greet press conference. I got a little squeamish with his response to free agency, but first day on the job it’s best to build bridges than to make news. So, all in all, I thought he was real, inspiring, sounds comitted, and will be a good motivator of young players.
January 27th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Loved it. love is attitude. Get your butts in gear boys or else. That means you too Freeman, your buddy is not here anymore. Did you hear the words competition makes everybody better after your name?
January 27th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
I am behind him.
We should have a good season, provided we don’t play West Virginia.
January 27th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
^^^
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January 27th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
What pisses me off is going around to differenent websites such as tampabay.com and profootballtalk is the negativity from our own fans!! I swear it amazes how you can blast your own team so much!! Its ashame alot of other fans of other teams around the nfl see that and our fans make es look like idiots. Wtf guys!! Support your team through thick and thin and be a real fan!
January 27th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Unselfish Attitude of Sacrifice… Love it… Only thing I didn’t like is it sounds like Dominik will maintain his plan of no FA’s.
January 27th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Football in Tampa is looking up. First we got rid of that Alice the Goon-looking mixed martial artist at USF and now we got rid of that clown who spoke some slanguage and chest-bumped players down by three touchdowns and who couldn’t wait to get hammered with players on Friday nights.
Thank you Coach Schiano!
January 27th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
“But wasn’t that press conference a nice positive kick in the pants? I thinnk so though I need to hear what Shaun King and Ian Beckles thought before I can REALLY be upbeat……….LOL”
@Garv you got me thinking…these guys are former buccaneers players, and they show more animosity towards the team than saints or panthers fans.
Blatant stupidity if you ask me, they talk down on the organization they played part of their careers with. What does that say about those two? Sickening, similarly how colts fans feel about Peyton talking bad about the Colts org.
January 27th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Couldnt agree more Clayburn
I dont get it, if you dont like the Bucs then go root for someone else. There are plenty of true fans, that have been through worse than the Raheem era.
January 27th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Peyton is just pissed about ol Sodapop Curtis and his supposed nostradumbass predictions!
Now as for King Ian, I’m not sure other than they lost out to the better competition!
January 27th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Schiano did fine for the introduction presser. Now hopefully the Glazers will do something they have not done in the past few years and that’s spend money on some key free agents. Smart coaches pull in the right people to help get across the message. Buc fans will know in the next 5 months where the Glazers stand.
January 27th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Things are looking up in Tampa ! Not just because I am a cane fan, but I think we got a great coach I especially liked the part about if a meeting starts at 8:00 I expect everybody there on time with their notepads open and a pen in their hand…….daaayum… VACATION OVER BOYS !
January 27th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Bellichek lives to evade reporters questions. Fine by me. It’s not his job to give these guys quotes. It’s his job to win games.
I hope the most of team is on the injured list every week, for that matter. It’s strategy.
As for Schiano, I like his attitude, I like his discipline, I like his work ethic.
I’m on pins and needles on the OC’s, and especially the offensive staff. Who is the QB coach???/ Huge hire.
Is the Butch Davis thing still alive??
January 27th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
I can’t believe that only two current players(Freeman, Blount) and one current (Alstott) were at the press conference.
January 27th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
@bucfanjeff,
Why can’t someone be critical of evasive responding? I see the Glazers and Dominik do it all the time. I associate with liars or disingeniousness. So what Thomas critique’s him, he shouldn’t have to answer to you or any other individual on this board for not being a sheep.
I don’t feel anyway towards the Bucs and I feel they are a garbage organization. I have nothing against Schiano but he will learn soon the character of Dominik self-preserving managerial ways. Dominik is a smart pro-contract type manager but he is NOT a FOOTBALL guy! I repeat he IS NOT A FOOTBALL guy and his track record supports this claim. From the coaches hired to the drafts and the few FA’s brought in have been non-productive.
What the Glazers refer to as a fanbase disconnect is in reality a total loss of faith in the team. Schiano record is good from a restoration standpoint but as far as something to be excited about, ugh, I will pass because they were just ok nothing good or dominant. A lot of unknown. But I feel that people here should be free to dissect or critique a bottom tier organization.
January 27th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
@Brad
There is a new no contact clause in the CBA, I believe the players are released the day after their season ends and are not mandated to be back until 90 days after the Super Bowl, the org cannot force anyone to show up, it has to be voluntary, and I know from following a lot of these guys on twitter, they are scattered all directions into the wind until that mandated date.
January 27th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Only bottom tier fans think it is a bottom tier organization…
January 27th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
@Architek
Why bother, why waste your valuable time rooting for a tem and organization you only have contempt for, whats the sense, do you enjoy stress, I have never understood that about fans, if you hate the team and everything about it find another.
January 27th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Agreed flmike , why a bunch of miserable loser non- fans
January 27th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Hey maybe coach Shiano will keep Donald Penn from eating everything known to mankind…..
January 27th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
I will say the same thing I said when Raheem was hired “For Real.” This again isn’t a good hire, 1. He wasn’t the best candidate out there. 2. No experience (Go back to Raheem). Mark D is part of the product. Mediocrity will not work in Tampa Bay…never has never will. Dumb and Dumber just don’t get it. You have to spend the cheddar to get the people in place. I can only guess also that their “other investments” are weighing on this decision. Please just sell the team so the Bucs Fans can get a great product on the filed every Sunday!! Hugh Culverhouse was cheap and if this continues it’s only a matter of time before you start seeing “Screw Culverhouse” Billboards again on Dale Mabry only this time it will Be Dumb and Dumber!
GO BUCS!!
January 27th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Our new guy is likely consulting with the rockstar/”defensive fundamentalist” about the staff.
Sorta sounds like we got a franchise QB to play Dungy ball, in the NFC South.
At least that is this weeks “plan” vs. last weeks offensive jaugernault “plan”.
Sounds very Wannstedt like to me.
Should be most interesting.
January 27th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
“But I feel that people here should be free to dissect or critique a bottom tier organization.”
Architek you spend your money and time on a bottom tier organization, what does that make you? An idiot go somewhere else and cry.
Its the NFL, there are only 32 teams. And 13 teams are yet to win a Super Bowl. I dont believe a bottom tier organization would ever have a chance for a SB…be grateful for what we have here.
January 27th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
@ Brad
Cody Grimm too.
I wouldn’t read too much into it. It’s the players’ offseason and we don’t know if they reached out via the phone or how much it was going to cost for them to get back.
Zuttah wasn’t there and Schiano was his college coach!
January 27th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
FLmike +1
TBA!!!!!! I love it . It feels like we got the right guy. Great lineage and top notch recruiter.I sense a new era in Buc ball coming,Nasty D coming back, can’t wait for this spring to see this get kicked into gear. Anyone catch when coach said I have been a head coach before,for 11 years, shot at rah ??saying thats why it will be different with my hire.
I for one think the Brothers g and dom stepped up and did the right thing and I am willing to see where this goes and get back to being excited about throwing my support behind this team.GO Bucs
January 27th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Grimm was there as well. @flmike. If I’m going to have a new boss you bet your sweetarse I’m going to be there, non mandatory or not. I understand Freeman flew in to be there. The way this team collapsed last year one would think a bigger turn out. More could have been there but that was Dumiegs understanding. One good thing, Mark Dominik confirmed Shiano would be hiring his own staff.
January 27th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Let me get the new coaches name right cause I was fired up after the press conference.. SCHIANO!!! Go Bucs…
January 27th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
One of the things I really like about Schiano is he’s not a flashy guy. What I mean by that is he’s not up there trying to crack jokes, throw stupid cliches around, or make ridiculous predictions. He’s a football guy, he lives and breathes the game. He’s a family man with a strong faith. He is someone who I will have a very easy time getting behind and supporting.
To the players, enjoy your vacations, some of you deserved them, but when you come back be ready to get to work. Happy to hear that Freeman, Blount and Grimm were at the presser and getting an early look at what Coach Shiano expects from them.
January 27th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
@Architek
“Why can’t someone be critical of evasive responding?”
Because frankly it’s nit-picking on the new guy. He hasn’t been here all of 24 hours, is armed with limited knowledge on the team, and it’s unrealistic he can answer every question on a team he just inhereted. If he has been here a year or more and constantly evades questions then the critique is valid.
We all have opinions on the owners, GM and coaches. Right now we have a new coach. The best thing we can do is support him unless he proves to be not worthy. If he proves to be the real deal, and the GM is falling short, I have no doubts the Glazers will make a change. One step at a time.
Lastly,
“I don’t feel anyway towards the Bucs and I feel they are a garbage organization.”
Then why are you on here? There are 31 other teams you can root for, feel free to jump ship anytime.
January 27th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
@ Tom Collins
When you’ve only won 17 games in 3 years, gotten 2 top 5 picks, haven’t won a playoff game since 2002, and have multiple years of blackouts, you’re a bottom-tier organization.
Outside of Tampa, we’ve got a TERRIBLE national profile. Our owners are cheap. Our front office is inept. Our players are quitters. Any move we make good or bad is immediately snickered at or put down. If the Steelers hired Schiano, the national media would bend over backwards trying to make it look good. Why? Because they’re the Steelers. Their organization has the cache to hire/fire/cut/sign anyone they want because they have a good track record.
Our ownership has a long way to go to give us the respect we deserve nationwide. We’ll see if this was a move in the right direction.
January 27th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
He evaded some of the questions, especially the one where he was asked how much control he will have.
Watch his body language closely as he answered that. You can see it made him a little uncomfortable.
His answer indicated that the “Rockstar” still has some say in things, and it will be a “group effort”.
One can argue either way about Marks record in picking talent, but as far as picking coordinators, so far, he sucks.
I see Coach as much more of a Type A Alpha Male then the more laid back, Yuppified Mark Dominik, and hopefully they will compliment each other well.
Coach preached about being a Team, and I can see Mark and him being just that, because they are opposites, dedicated to the same thing.
January 27th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
@Brad
Apparently wordpress sucks …
anyway, probably not in this situation, he’ll meet the rank and file soon enough, Josh did the right thing, he is the nominal leader and face of the franchise, Blount lives right there and I’m sure Cody was in the building rehabbing. Schiano has a lot of work, coaches, Senior Bowl, FA and the draft.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Schiano has a lot of work to do, but he kicked this press conference’s ass! Didn’t really see the dodging some of you saw. Just seemed like he wasn’t very familiar with the current roster. Understandable to me. Seemed poised and confident throughout. Welcome to the Bucs, Coach Schiano! Let’s get it!
January 27th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
@Architek
“I don’t feel anyway towards the Bucs and I feel they are a garbage organization.”
That sentence is a contradiction. You cannot say, “I don’t feel anyway” and then state “I feel” in the same sentence.
But, since you did, it let us know up front that your entire post was going to be nonsense, distorted, and full of delusional insights.
Thanks for playing.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
“It doesn’t matter how much a coach knows, it matters how much the players know.”
Genius. Best thing he said the entire press conference. Lots of knowledgeable coaches, not a lot of great teachers. Love the philosophy.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Ish70:
I believe that he was saying that he doesn’t feel positively or negatively about the Bucs = players and coaches but he feels that the organization = Glazers and Dom are junk.
If you read and comprehend with an open mind, you will see that he used Bucs as the noun the first time and organization the second.
Until yesterday, I believed that both management and the team were complete junk. Today, I feel that just management is junk (but the hiring of Schiano is the first positive thing that they have done in recent memory).
January 27th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
SensibleBuc
Our ownership has gotten us a Superbowl, how many current owners have done that? If winning a superbowl doesnt deserve respect, what does?
Some of our “fans” have developed a hatred towards our owners because we have been unsuccessful recently. However when they make claims based on circumstantial evidence, like the Glazers are cheap, they want to sell, they dont know what they’re doing (my favorite). Its not very sensible, pretty irrational if you ask me.
This is the same organization that has employed three HOF coaches over the past 12 years (Tony, Chucky, & hopefully Monte). Not to mention, numerous other coaches and Front office personell that are highly regarded in the industry.
Teams like the Steelers, Packers, NFC East, etc have been around for three times as long as the Bucs…Legends arent built over night.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
SensibleBuc
Also, if you want us to be like the steelers, why dont you do something about it yourself? Support the bucs, like a steelers fan supports the steelers.
January 27th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
@Thomas2.2
“If you read and comprehend with an open mind, you will see that he used Bucs as the noun the first time and organization the second.”
It was one sentence. The rules of the English language dictate that a pronoun refers to the last matching antecedent (matching in terms of 1st, 2nd or 3rd person and plurality/singularity). His sentence uses one noun (the Bucs) and then the pronoun “they” almost immediately. The construction of the sentence also gives no credence to interpreting two separate referents. Thus, his sentence was, as aforementioned, contradictory.
January 27th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
@ Tom
“However when they make claims based on circumstantial evidence, like the Glazers are cheap, they want to sell, they dont know what they’re doing (my favorite). Its not very sensible, pretty irrational if you ask me.”
1) Tom everything I mentioned in my previous post is DIRECT evidence of an organization on a downward trend due to bad decisions and lack of spending from the Glazers and the Front Office. The slow decline of the Jon Gruden era (w/an inability to replenish player & coaching talent), then Jon’s firing coupled with the beginning of the ill-conceived & reckless Raheem Morris/Mark Dominik era, coordinator debacles (plural), and 10 game losing streak have been a black mark on the Organization nationally and locally. You don’t just get a blank slate as owners when you hire the next guy after the showing they’ve put up over the past few years. You don’t get the benefit of, “Hey they brought us a Super Bowl 10 years ago!” That’s not good enough.
“Also, if you want us to be like the steelers, why dont you do something about it yourself? Support the bucs, like a steelers fan supports the steelers.
2) Support = Passion + Interest + Criticism. Not a rubber stamp. You’re characterizing me as some irrational or ill-informed know-nothing when I’ve constantly defended the Glazers, the Front Office & the previous coaching staff from the moment I started posting on this site 3-4 years ago. I rationalized every move/non-move because I thought I was being a good fan and they repaid me with 1 good and 2 embarrassing years. Now I will question everything until they PROVE that they know what they’re doing like the Steelers or the Pats. Show me you want to be a winner again by hiring the right people, spending money, and getting out of the way.
3) With all that said, I don’t hate the Glazers. I’m a Bucs fan and a Man Utd fan in part because of the all of the great teams they’ve helped build. If I didn’t care, I wouldn’t post here & wouldn’t care how they run the Bucs or who they hire as HC. The great thing about rooting for an NFL franchise is that we may be at the bottom now but that doesn’t mean we can’t trend upward and win consistently over the next decade and become and Organization that other franchises model themselves after.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
@Architek
Did you just admit you are not a Bucs fan at all????
@Thomas 2.2
I believe Joe was referring to the different styles between Morris and Schiano in their handling of the press. He wasn’t putting Greg down at all.
Clearly you know NOTHING:
1. You know…did you even watch the presser? Did you even research Greg Schiano or are you talking out of your rear end? Greg Schiano…I think he IS the best man for the job. In fact…he reminds me of a Billichick/Dungy combination.
2. This proves you did no research. What, do you listen to idiots on the radio for your information? You have a computer…use the dang thing. Schiano has tons of experience. AND some of it is in the NFL as a coach. Use your eyes, fingers and brain, friend.
And as to Mark Dominick, your comment proves you know absolutely nothing. You think Dominick is bad? Watch what happens with the players he’s drafted over the next couple years. You are in for a huge surprise.
3. This is the reason Tampa is known to have the worst fans in the NFL. You can’t even recognize quality owners. How many losing seasons did we have before the Glazers turned this team around?
How many Superbowl trips and victories? How many division titles?
The Glazers won a Superbowl…now they want a dynasty. They are doing everything they can to get us going in that direction…that means building for the long term. Through. The. Draft. Then add FAs when needed. Spending does not mean success, just ask the Redskins fans.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
I finally got to watch the press conference today and I can really breathe a sigh of relief. I was so sure based on all that was said that we were getting a retread screw-up. Thank God. I agree with their choice and like everything I heard. Coach is very articulate and chose all his words carefully, with no RAH-ism’s. I remember Raheem’s first presser and this was night and day. This is a Head Coach today and not one in training. I’m sure as he gets his feet wet, he’ll become more comfortable with the situation and what to make of it. It is a good day today and my faith has been somewhat restored.
As they say: “Lets get to Work”
January 27th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
He sounds the part, and I like most of what he had to say.
Buuut, his speech on free agency was straight outta Doms handbook. We have three years worth of proof that doesn’t work. Build thru the draft only is a failed notion, and it bothers me that our new coach is already having to toe the ” cheap is better ” company line
Going from Lil Rutgers to the Bucs is like going from head coach at Lakeland high school to Head coach at The university of Florida
I hope he succeeds, but good luck to him, cause this will be a whole new Ballgame
January 27th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Quite simply Schiano brings a sincererity to his commitment that reminds me of Coach Dungy. I’m very pleased with this hire and I also believe Chip Kelly did the Bucs a favor. Schiano comes from the Paterno mentality as Dungy learned from Chuck Noll. And when Coughlin and Belichek give their endorsement, it says something about the man.I already know the Schiano Bucs will give much more effort and won’t quit like this last season. We now have hope and that’s been missing. Now if the Glazers would open up their wallets and allow Schiano to get some quality FAs, then the fans will come back.
January 27th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
JOE, could you drag my post out of the spam folder? Please?
January 27th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
SensibleBuc
“Tom everything I mentioned in my previous post is DIRECT evidence of an organization on a downward trend due to bad decisions and lack of spending from the Glazers and the Front Office.”
vs
“Our owners are cheap. Our front office is inept. Our players are quitters.”
I agree with half of the first post, that bad decisions of the front office has been an issue for this franchise recently. You explained the bad decision part really well in your post. There definitely is correlation between the decline in spending and our number of wins. Although I believe the lack of spending is a result of their bad decisions among other things, not because they would prefer to save cash.
The Raheem hire has turned out bad in all kinds of ways. I dont like to put blame on people, especially since Raheem is a good guy, or make excuses but the Glazers & Dom let him sink our ship. In the past our GM has never had to step in and help the head coach with finding assistants, until Raheem. In addition, most players have regressed since being acquired. Along with his inability to hold players accountable, is direct evidence of crappy coaching. The fact that the Glazers had hired Raheem is a black mark, but to blackball them for that…C’mon man!
Additionally, I would hope you don’t hate the Glazers, unless you personally known them to be terrible people lol. However when you bash the entire organization (Owners, FO, & players) after one bad season it makes you appear as a Debbie Downer, Negative Nancy, or Thomas 2.2. Some of it is just unfair criticism.
January 27th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
I’m fine with what he said about youth. It adds the “Y” to TBA
😉
Actually…I think the results are going to be a lot different…and quickly so.
I was a supporter of Morris up until near the very end…but it was always because I saw potential in him. I still think he’ll one day make a great head coach. He’s just got a LOT to learn. (I don’t think he’ll learn it in Washington either)
But Greg Schiano…this guy is fantastic so far. Nothing but good things. I’m excited for the future!
He’s a teacher…a teacher! That’s what this team needs. And he’s a lot like Dungy.
January 27th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
PLBuc
“I also believe Chip Kelly did the Bucs a favor”
I agree, we can thank Gruden for that one!
January 27th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
@Ish70,
Listen rook, I am not here to conform to your “proper grammar and punctuation” expectations. What I am here to do is blog in an open forum that consists of people from various backgrounds and cultures. The people that I speak of include the likes of you, which I have never even seen in this forum. I can respect someone telling me to go somewhere else or challenging a statement but to come here for proper english is totally ignorant. Know your environment because you look really silly talking about sentence structure.
@Thomas,
You summed it up best. I really have lost all passion for the Bucs as a organization. After all of the economic pressure, the losing, failed decision-making, unrationale contracts, and the ultimate treatment of the fans, I have lost that fire. Maybe I had a business that interacted with or associated with the Bucs I would be more patient but this season was bad as bad gets from a football and business standpoint. My point in saying this, while you were the voice of reason last year, I bashed you and attacked you sometimes about your lack of optimism I should have been more open minded in regards to Rah. I mean it was doomed from the get go and now I see the same thing with this coach because while he will pick his staff, Quincy Black, Trueblood, Winslow, Aqib, Biggers, Lewis, and more remain on this team. THEY QUIT THOMAS AND EMBARRASS EVERYONE associated with the Bucs logo. The person that granted them sanctuary is still there and up to his same foolishness. He is easily the worse GM in the league. I am over that point but tell me what structure changes have been made to show you this season will be better from a organizational standpoint? You of all people understand this because you have brought this up. So I am not overly optimistic while Dominik is in place and I have no faith in their decision making. When Dominik leaves or stay upstairs the Bucs will be better.
January 27th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
@Pete,
You know honestly, at this point I can’t argue with you. If you all enthusiasm is what defines a “Bucs” fan then no I am not.
Two way to slice it. I have supported the Bucs since 85′ at a young age and it burned me up to see them lose. Alternatively, after the past 10 years I have saw the Glazers massacre this franchise infrastructure and legacy. Because I hate the way this has happen and I don’t condone it, then yes, it is ok to label me as a non-Bucs fan or you could understand the passion I grew up with and search yourself for justifying the Bucs as a organization/product.
I can’t knock you for saying that…but think about it from a different vantage point. The Bucs fan base is little and split anyway so it’s not like a bandwagon deal for sure…
January 27th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
@Pete,
I respect your enthusiasm and others, I just choose to let them prove their talk. Will they spend in FA? Will cancers be removed? Will they seek out impact players’ and coaches? Will they give incentives to reconnect with the fans? Will they start drafting better?
A lot of unknown but I respect your positive feelings. they just have to prove it to me.
January 27th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
I thought the coach was very clear. We have a good “CORE” group. He did not say every damn body. He also said he will not know until he looks at more tape and works with the players what will need to be done.(not his exact words) That was questioned during the FA question. So exactly what more do you want him to say? Ok I got off the plane just a while ago and here is a list of everyone I will cut??
And as for Architek, he is just being a bully here just like he is on Pewter Report. And if I did not know better I would say 2.2 is aka BucFan47 from PR. lol
January 28th, 2012 at 12:01 am
@ Tom
You’re seeing what you want to see. Read the paragraph.
“Outside of Tampa, we’ve got a TERRIBLE national profile.”
Then I said,
“Our owners are cheap. Our front office is inept. Our players are quitters.
Then I said,
“Any move we make good or bad is immediately snickered at or put down.”
That is the perception of our franchise nationally, not my own personal perception.
January 28th, 2012 at 12:16 am
I have no idea what this coach will be.. Never heard of him. but i have heard of chip kelly.. i wish he was the guy.. but i guess it wasnt meant to be.. I hope this new coach can find josh freeman a good QB coach and get this D back to where it needs to be….
January 28th, 2012 at 12:28 am
@ Tom
“…the Glazers & Dom let him sink our ship. In the past our GM has never had to step in and help the head coach with finding assistants, until Raheem. In addition, most players have regressed since being acquired. Along with his inability to hold players accountable, is direct evidence of crappy coaching.”
They LET him sink our ship? So Rah MADE them give him the job? C’mon bro, you’re better than that! They hired a 32 year old defensive backs coach with barely any experience to run the entire football side of a professional football franchise. That’s like hiring the fry cook at McDonalds to take over Emeril’s show on the Food Network. He wasn’t ready! Of course they were going to have to help hire his assistants! Of course he was going to be buddy buddy with the guys! Of course he was going to fail! My question to you is who is really accountable for the failures of the last 3 years? TBA son, with the “A” standing for accountability.
“However when you bash the entire organization (Owners, FO, & players) after one bad season it makes you appear as a Debbie Downer, Negative Nancy, or Thomas 2.2.”
This is a multimillion dollar operation run by the Glazers and Mark Dominik. Whether it’s the CEO Netflix or Captain of the Titanic, the people at the top take the lionshare of the credit for doing their jobs and the bulk of the backlash if the screw them up. The Glazers and MD didn’t do their jobs correctly 3 years ago. That fact cannot be disputed. They shouldn’t be given a free pass. Any move they make should be taken with a dose of skepticism until they prove otherwise. We’re going to be the laughingstock of the league until we go out, punch somebody in the mouth and win games then championships.
I hope Schiano can be the first step in that direction.
January 28th, 2012 at 12:39 am
@ Nate
I’d say he’s probably the better fit out of the two coaches.
1) Schiano’s got at least SOME NFL time so he understands the mentality of NFL players.
2) He’s always run pro schemes and has more connections to NFL coaches (Belicheat, Butch Davis, John McNulty, Dave Wannestadt, etc.) where Kelly has been a lifetime college guy.
3) He’s more CEO than mad scientist playcaller (i.e. More like Harbaugh and less like Spurrier, Dennis Erickson, Bobby Petrino, etc.) and if his staff is full of guys with veteran NFL coaches then he can succeed.
January 28th, 2012 at 2:46 am
Great first press conference, and I loved that he mentioned having to reconnect with the fans who Raheem single handedly destroyed. This guy is no nonsense I love that and if he has the hard nose style he seems to have he won’t put up with characters like Winslow and Talib. Any cancers I think will be gone before training camp either through trade or just being cut. This guy is the anti-Raheem which is all I can ask for. He does remind me of Dungy and I love his offensive style which throws out the dink and dunk West Coast offense which just begs for interceptions creeping down the field. Hopefully my optimism is not misguided. As for all of the negativity from the fan base they have been jaded but they will come back in time. GO BUCS~~~
January 28th, 2012 at 9:25 am
@ Architek
First, I’m not a rook. Don’t post much, but do post. Much like I’ve seen (or rather not seen) from you over the last few years.
Second, how does my pointing out that you contradicted yourself in your opening sentence make me look ignorant? Ignorance is slapping together a non-sensical post like your first one.
That said, all of your replies after the one to me were strong and I agreed with some of them. You stopped contradicting yourself and made some sense. Thank you, that’s all I ask.
Rook! 🙂
January 28th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Sensible Buc
1.) “That is the perception of our franchise nationally, not my own personal perception.”
I quoted you word for word, however I’m not going into a grammar/sentence structure post. The rest of your post bashes the owners & front office, which happened to chose our entire roster. Implying that you support the national perception. It was not very clear that you disagree with national perception in any way.
2.)“They LET him sink our ship? So Rah MADE them give him the job?”
Im assuming you were drunk when you wrote this? In case you weren’t, let me clarify my statement: They (the Glazers) let (allowed) him (Raheem) to sink our ship. Meaning they hired him, meaning they’re at fault for hiring Raheem. Go back and read my post completely, notice I say that hiring Raheem was a black mark.
The mistake was already made; Mock Raheem all you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that he had some short term success. Raheem had a phenomenal year last year from a coaching standpoint. We had countless injuries and the backups didn’t miss a beat. You’re telling me (even with hindsight) the Glazers should have fired Raheem after he was partly responsible for the largest single season turnaround in franchise history?
3.) Even though you ran off on a tangent, I still feel the need to reconcile the accountability argument. The Glazers are absolutely accountable, considering they are paying for their lack of success. To put it very simply, more fans=more money. Most of the bandwagon fans that hopped on after our Super Bowl have found other teams by now. I would imagine that the Glazers goal is to make less money each year and diminish the value of their franchise while they’re at it (sarcasm). And publicly, the Glazers have been entirely accountable, not at one point did they throw Raheem under the bus. The Glazers chose to fire Raheem, proving they acknowledged their mistake.
January 28th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Good point Tom Collins. I think they all share the blame. However, the question remains how will they get back the local fans? I just believe the local fan base deserve better.
January 28th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
@ Tom
1) “Implying that you support the national perception. It was not very clear that you disagree with national perception in any way”
LOL. Ok Tom. I’ll be more clear: I do not agree with the national perception of this franchise because it’s based on incomplete information by people who don’t live in the area and don’t put in the time to get to know the Organization. Here are my thoughts:
*Our owners are not cheap. They built, with their own money, some of the best football facilities in the world, just finished paying Gruden $6 million per, employ one of the largest scout departments in the league (we have 10+; the Bengals have 3 and one just retired) and just spent $10 million (?) guaranteed on a punter.
*Our front office is not inept. As Schiano said yesterday, we have a good young core. Freeman, Blount, the WRs, and the D-line are good pieces we can build on. Just look at the Rams. They’ve had 3 top 5 draft picks in the past 5 years and we are leaps and bounds more talented than they are.
*Our players are not quitters. K2 didn’t quit. Clayborn & Bowers played their butts off.
2.) “They (the Glazers) let (allowed) him (Raheem) to sink our ship.”
I understand this sentence perfectly clearly. The word “let” or “allowed” denotes a lack of control and/or responsibility on the part of the Glazers and Dominik in the entire recent fall of the franchise. Your explanation: “Meaning they hired him, meaning they’re at fault for hiring Raheem” doesn’t mesh with that sentence because the explanation just refers to Rah’s hiring and not the subsequent mistakes that follow…anyway, the larger point to this entire conversation is that the Glazers & Dominik & Rah were all complicit in the sinking of the ship. I think we can both agree on that.
3) “You’re telling me (even with hindsight) the Glazers should have fired Raheem after he was partly responsible for the largest single season turnaround in franchise history?”
As a Raheem Morris fan, I’m telling you that he shouldn’t have been hired in the first place. He wasn’t ready. Now his future as an NFL head coach is in jeopardy.
4) As to your point #3, just because the Glazers have lost fans (money), reconciled their mistake (hiring Raheem) doesn’t make what I said in my last post any less true. Trust is earned. If/when they show the fanbase that they know what they’re doing I won’t be skeptical of their moves/non-moves.
January 28th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Pete Dutcher I have been following NFL and College football for 50 years……I think I know a bit about football. I know the product the Bucs have been putting on the field and in the community is disgusting. You are right about the Redskins, money doesn’t work every time but it certainly helps win more games than it loses. The Skins at least got a head coach with a NFL track record, which in turn increases your chances of victories!
In 2016 we will be on here again saying it was a bad hire. I hope im wrong!
January 28th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
SensibleBuc loved your “They hired a 32 year old defensive backs coach with barely any experience to run the entire football side of a professional football franchise. That’s like hiring the fry cook at McDonalds to take over Emeril’s show on the Food Network.” Thats soooooo true and with Schiano hire….history has repeated its self!! Dumb and Dumber just dont get it!!
2-14 this year!!
January 28th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Archi, you are right that they clearly have a great deal to prove, before they win over the fanbase here. They repeatedly say they will spend whatever it takes but their actions are to the contrary. I hope they finally get it and try to dig their way out of this hole. I wish Schiano great success but it will take a lot more than hiring a good coach to change the perception of being cheap bastards. They have to go out and spend some money, but they will probably generate more excuses why they won’t spend money. Looks like a Duck, Quacks, chances are……