Jeff Fisher Will Not Interview With Bucs
January 6th, 2012
In the third report in as many days, this time even strongly worded, the Bucs will not interview Jeff Fisher to fill the vacancy of jettisoned Bucs head coach Raheem Morris.
Per Jim Thomas of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the teams courting Fisher have been whittled down to two: Miami and St. Louis.
All indications are that it’s a two-horse race between St. Louis and Miami for Fisher’s services. He apparently will not interview in Tampa Bay, as had been speculated.\
But the rest of the NFL has taken notice of Kroenke’s serious pursuit of Fisher. With Bill Cowher and Jon Gruden seemingly intent on sitting out this hiring season, and no real hot coordinators on the market, Fisher is the belle of the ball in this year’s NFL coaching carousel.
In conversations with a variety of sources around the league, one recurring theme has been that Kroenke must be serious about winning in St. Louis if he’s going after Fisher. This will be Kroenke’s first coaching hire as Rams controlling owner, and for better or worse, it will help define his ownership style to his competitors in the NFL.
On Monday after, eye-RAH! Kaufman of the Tampa Tribune reported the suits at One Buc Palace were indifferent to Fisher. The next day, good guy Maoist Michael Silver of Yahoo! Sports reported that the Bucs and Chiefs were the only two teams with head coach openings that didn’t seem interested in Fisher.
Thomas’ report seems to close the door on Fisher and the Bucs.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Good, totally agree. Now if we can close the door on Sherman, too, we can move on to more exciting territory.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
The more than likely scenario is that Fisher closed the doors on the Bucs. The three headed monster of Brian, Joel and Mark is enough to scare any quality coaching candidate away or at least those that put a premium on winning, anyway.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Haynesworth and Blount must be pleased (assuming Haynesworth is even here next season)
January 6th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Way to keep that open mind Joel, don’t even talk to the guy.
Pathetic.
The all to familiar BS continues.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
WOW, you don’t even want to interview him? Maybe there is something to Shaun King’s theory, I was thinking the same thing. Why would Mark D bring in someone that would push him out, that would be professional suicide!
January 6th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
not even a sniff… can’t really know the guy unless you talk to ’em.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
This is great news. I would like to hear we are not going to hire Sherman too. Just Say No to Retreads.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
That door was and has been closed for coaches with experience. Its not that the Bucs should hire Fisher. But how about an interview, you know just for the hell of it. Just to give the illusion to Buc fans that you care about the franchise.
Let me guess ” they are open to all candidates”. Yeh as long as they don’t come with a high price tag.
Note to the Glazer’s: Don’t say you want to win. PROVE IT ! Your fan base is a direct reflection of the product you have built.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
It’s funny 2 me that they interview Sherman but not Fisher or Billick. Just think for a second Rah have at least 2 teams that want his services and one team want Sherman(Bucs)
January 6th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
The Glazers said they wanted to win. Not have the highlight of this coach’s tenure be going to the Super Bowl and LOSING by a yard. Other than that, his teams have be mediocre, despite having one of the best running backs ever.
The Glazers are trying to prove they want to win by not hiring this LOSER.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
@ OptimisTroll
Didn’t call for Fisher to be hired. Just interviewed. Is there a multiple Super Bowl winning coach out there ? So to call every coach a loser because he did not win a Super Bowl is naive to say the least. Or are you a Cowher guy. One Super Bowl over how many years?
January 6th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
And Joe rejoices because Fisher would have exposed Joe’s beloved Dominik’s incompetence.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Mean D:
Seems as though you have a bug up your ass about Joe since you invoke hatred toward him into every comment.
As Joe likes to say, “You throw enough rocks at a dog, pretty soon the dog bites.”
January 6th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Whoever the coach may be, it is equally important he assemble a quality coaching staff since they will have to coach a bunch of sorry excuses for players and try to get the best out of them. That’s the problem I have with Dominick not being fired. Unless the Glazers spend like never before, we have way too many holes on this roster for any coach to make an immediate impact. And Domink takes most of the blame for that. Let’s hope next year the players at least show some effort.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Fisher may or may have not been the best fit for us but this feels like deja vu. I swear over the years every time a free agent player or a coach is mentioned with the Bucs and ANY other team we never get that player or coach. This better change come March!!!!
I am getting worried that good coaches wont wanna come work for Dominick and the cheap lying Glazer boys.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
You friggin’ morons!!!! Was it or was it not the Glazers who hired your beloved Gruden????? STFU!!!!! They spent money on a big name coach then so it’s not like they haven’t done it before. They don’t want Fisher….get over it. What a bunch of pathetic cry babies.
January 6th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Bobby, that was pre 2004 AKA pre Man U and when Daddy was still running the show. Much different since then
January 6th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
So Dominik couldn’t even get an interview with his top choice? Rockstar!
January 6th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
I suspect that Fisher would demand that Dom be replaced or made irrelevant.
January 6th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Not if you have good aim!
January 6th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Better get Mike Mularkey and Rob Chudzinski in here ASAP. RC called amazing games against us…. Oh, so did everyone else! I liked his creativity and execution but can he lead the whole team??? I think Mularkey is ready and he the was Chudzinski before Chudzinski was Chudzinski.
Dang, is Sean Payton available?
or should we go defense??? I’m a defensive minded fan first, even when buc ball was less than entertaining to the untrained eye.
Greg Williams anyone? come on Dick Lebeau…… Please come down to Tampa and make us relevant again!
January 6th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
If you are a hot NFL head coach with your longevity and prospective 6 million dollar annual salary at stake, would you want that your livelihood controlled by the talent that Dom decides is sufficient with his track record? I wouldnt, no way.
I would require that Dom be neutered – figuratively of course. I know Joe would be crushed if that happened.
January 6th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Thomas:
Why are you equating a coach with zero Super Bowl wins, only six winning seasons in 17 years and a program where the inmates ran the asylum as some NFL deity?
Unless you are looking for ample material for multiple comments. 🙂
January 6th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
@ Bobby Says:
How long has the Napoleon(I mean Gruden) “ERA” been over with now. I think it was over after 2004. While he was dismantling the franchise under the watchful eye of the Glazer’s. The adage that the Glazer’s spent money before on a HC is bullsh*t.
Nobody was hiring Raheem or Dominick other than the Glazer’s. Ask yourself why.
The Glazer’s have been the bottom feeders of the NFL for years. Good coaches and players avoid the Glazer ownership like the plague.
January 6th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
this team is VERY profitable from an ownership standpoint
Success is in the eye of the beholder
January 6th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
I don’t see the big deal. If he is not interested and wants either Miami or the Rams, then why bother? If the Glazers aren’t interested or don’t want to spend that much (call them cheap, does not matter), then why bother?
Their time is better spent interviewing people they have a real interest and a real chance at.
The only reason to interview him is to appease fans, but those fans would be the first yelling about how cheap they are and it was just done for show… so, again, why bother?
January 6th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Joe:
I am Not saying that he is a NFL deity, he is undeniably an excellent NFL head coach. You point out only 6 winning seasons, but if I remember correctly he has 5 or 6 8-8 seasons so I believe that he only had 5 losing seasons ever – 1 after he took over mid year as interim coach.
Bud Adams is notoriously Glazer like in his cheapness but unlike Glazerlike in his over-involvement in football operations. Example, Adams vetoed Fisher and drafted Vince Young which set the franchise back.
Fisher knows defense and always has competitive teams.
Come to think of it, compared to the Rah Rah and Dom circus, he is NFL deity. The Glazers are staying away from him bc he has no interest in this mess, with Dom as GM and the Glazers being cheaper than Adams.
Fisher interviewing would be for leverage period. The Glazers want a coach with experience that gives them the appearance of effort but who they have leverage against (bc just fired by a college program) – mike sherman anyone?
January 6th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Meh
Where are you gettin that Fisher was a “top choice” of Dom or the Glazers? All indications are they had very little interest from the get go.
I suspect it will be someone not even mentioned yet… except maybe Brian Billick, he has been mentioned but not a lot.
I bet he has an interview next week. He has a track record with a great offense and a great defense, has a ring, and has been around the Bucs as a broadcaster alot over the last 2 years.
Just a guess though, I don’t know anymore than anyone else on this
January 6th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
@MTM: “The Glazer’s have been the bottom feeders of the NFL for years. Good coaches and players avoid the Glazer ownership like the plague”.
Well put!
January 6th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
MTM
Gruden era was over in 2004? You do realize we were 11-5 in 2005 and in the playoffs, right? No, the Gruden era ended the day Monte Kiffin quit and said he was joining his son in Tenn!
January 6th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Its probably going to Mike Sherman, Thomas is right.
Were the only team in the NFL that would hire a coach weeks after he was just fired at the college level!!
January 6th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Seems like fans are assuming we are not interested AT ALL. It was reported we weren’t all that excited about him, with good reason, but not that we closed the door. Maybe it was Fisher, amongst inside cirlces, that HE wasn’t interested in us.
Regardless, I’m glad it won’t be us if reports hold true. Fisher hasn’t done anything in his tenure except 6 playoff appearences. Only 4 in which he won the division, 2 others as wildcards.
So tell me again, why does everyone like him? Because he’s well known I guess. Not a reason to hire.
January 6th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Dave
I have to agree. I think Fisher is just interested in Miami or LA.
January 6th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Warren Sapp should have knocked Mike Sherman down too…
I’m officially the Tom Clements or Rob Chudzinski for HC bandwagon(in that order).
I think they need to look at Spagnuolo for DC. Why not talk to him for a possible position with the new regime. He led some great d’s.
January 6th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
The Glazers can sell Sherman as a coach that built the Packers and rejuvanated Favre while getting a cheap contract bc Texas AM just fired him.
Also, Sherman wont have much standing to expose Dom’s ineptitude bc he was just fired by a bottom-level Big 12 program.
Why not interview Turner Gill or Ron Prince while we are at it?
January 6th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Oops …St Louis, not LA. Now that’s a multi-decade brain fart!
January 6th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Dave, it was reported by Rick Stroud that Fisher was tops on Dom’s list. It was Ira Kaufman that reported that the Glazers were unimpressed with Fisher.
January 6th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
PS- Out of 17 season, Fisher had six losing seasons, five 8-8 (.500) seasons, and six winning season (above .500).
So about 65% of the time he was average or worse.
January 6th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
If it’s Mike Sherman, then Apple’s source was correct about having a handshake deal weeks ago. If they hire him then this whole “coaching search” has been a charade from the outset. Another slap in the face of Bucs fans if it goes down that way.
January 6th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Yeah getting to the Super Bowl is no accomplishment.
We get there so often around here.
Of course we had no problem interviewing a guy who couldnt even get to the Championship game with Favre and 25-25 with Texas A&M.
Money has nothing to do with it, everyone knows Mike Sherman is a better head coach than Jeff Fisher. Of course he is.
Disgrace.
January 6th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Thomas:
WWHHAATT???
Leave the bar right now, or get a designated driver!
January 6th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
You know, the more I think about this whole Sherman possibility the more I honestly believe that the whole Raheem affair damaged the front office’s confidence in choosing an up-and-coming coach and now they are running into the arms of a father figure, a guy who has a certain calm, experienced demeanor about him who has seen it all & done it all at the NFL level.
Sherman is safe. He’s a known quantity. I get that. But it’s the fans of this team who are going to end up frustrated because the Glazers and Dominik are reacting out of some sort of emotional post traumatic stress disorder and running to a father figure coach to make them feel comforted. What a total mess these clowns are, if Sherman ends up being the pick. Amazing.
January 6th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
If they hire Sherman i will agree with Shaun King…. that as a life long buc that covers all era’s, this is the absolute low point and have zero trust / confidence in the organization.
January 6th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Okay Joel, I’ll buy the team right now. $975 Million is my final offer, take it or leave it.
January 6th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
I have to agree that he should have at least been given an interview, assuming he wanted one. Being on the outside, though, it’s impossible for any of us to know the real reason we didn’t give Fisher a chance. I do, however, feel that in a normal year Fisher wouldn’t have anywhere near this much attention. This is just an incredibly weak year for potential coaches (from a big-name perspective). I would be more than happy if we hired Fisher, but I love Thomas’s argument that he was 8-8 for like 6 seasons. This is coming from the same guy who refuses to say we went 10-6 last year, but instead only states we were third in the division (beating only college QB’s). It’s so amazing how he can twist things for his own agenda. Fisher is not, and has never been, considered an elite-level coach. He’s very solid, and probably the safest pick of the available candidates, but Vince Lombardi he is not.
January 6th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Thomas now has Dom to pick on..it wont matter who is coach or GM he will always be negative nancy towards them..thanks for turning the comment section on this site into JoeBash Fan..
joe, keep doing what you do, give us hope
January 6th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Joe,
Didnt Sherman rejuvanate Favre and draft Rodgers? I would say that acquiring Rodgers went a long way toward building the team that they are today.
If I recall, Sherman acquired Woodson, Cullen Jenkins and a few other key contributors.
January 6th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Thomas 2.2: actually it was Tom Clements who rejuvenated Favre and helped him drastically reduce his interceptions. It was not Mike Sherman. He was just along for the ride.
January 6th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Actually I take that back. It looks even worse for Sherman, because his last season as head coach (2005) of the Packers was Favre’s worst, statistically. McCarthy brought in Tom Clements when he became head coach in 2006 and Favre’s performance drastically improved.
January 6th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Sherman didn’t acquire Rodgers, Sherman was replaced by Ted Thompson for letting old dirty Farve park in coaches parking and have his own office. If you guys though Rah played favorites, just wait til the Sherminator gets in office. I envision us being the division cellar dweller for another 3-5 years minimum if we hire Sherman, leaving Dominik in charge of player personnel even longer.
January 6th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Has any team in the NFL even interviewed Mike Sherman for a head coaching position since he left the Packers?
But magically Dom thinks he is some kind of a diamond in the rough.
January 6th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
So, Dom says the new coach will have personnel decisions. Fisher passes on us. There is Sherman, who got kicked out of college, and a bunch of first time coaches. Do we really think the new coach will have any input on personnel decisions? The Rams and Dophins don’t have GM’s right now. I don’t believe. If they do, they are like Bruce Allen, manage the money only. No wonder Fisher wants them.
January 6th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Thomas:
That would be Ted Thompson with all of those moves, including drafting Rodgers.
January 6th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
So Sherman has one bad year with Farve and it was his fault? What about the four years prior to 2005? They made the playoffs each of those years. Sherman’s last year with the Packers was decimated by injuries to several starters. While he was replaced with Ted Thompson his final year as GM, Sherman did draft Bubba Franks, Chad Clifton Na’il Diggs, Arron Kampton, N Davenport, J Walker, Nick Barnett, Corey Wiliams as GM/HC.
With that said, Im not hoping for Sherman, but wont be too dissappointed either.
January 6th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
I read where Dominick and Sherman share the same agent. If so does Dominick get a kick back for hiring Sherman. Just saying.
January 6th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
We need S.King to call out AppleRoofing like he did with Mark Dominik, I’m starting to believe he did some cleaning on Mike Sherman roof and got some info from Mr. Sherman since we did a wonderful job. Have anybody notice we haven’t been seen Mr.AppleRoof and it’s been 2 cold 2 clean roofs lol!
January 6th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
F**k Sherman! If he is the choice we are doomed to failure.
January 6th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
They need to turn their attention to Brian Billick. Did an excellent job as O coordinator in Minnesota and anyone who is capable of winning a superbowl with Trent Dilfer as your quarterback is nothing short of Harry Houdini in my book. And yes, I know the 2000 Ravens defense had something to do with that also.
January 6th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
^^Jake, good point.
January 6th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Brian Billick hasnt sniffed a coaching offer since he was fired by the Ravens. Somebody knows something there.
January 6th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
I am not arguing for sherm. In fact i dont want him hired. I am just explaining what the Glazers are doing.
January 6th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Id take josh mcdaniels before sherman, at least that way we might get brandon lloyd. LLoyd loves mcdaniels and this may be the only way to get a good free agent ,because god knows were not outbidding anyone. Fire dominik NOW
January 6th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
You refuse to give Sherm enough credit however for drafting Rodgers.
January 6th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Maybe the Glazers cheap ways caused Fisher to turn his nose up at them????????
January 6th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
After this speech I kinda like Mr. Sherman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I3rjGrMOq8
January 6th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
I want Herm
January 6th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Fire Dominik ?? Why is that ?? Because EJ Biggers who was a late 7th round pick isnt a Pro Bowler ?? Because he took the teams weakness (D-Line) and now be a strength ?? Because he drafted Freeman who still could be a star when nobody else wanted him ??? Because he hasnt hit every single draft pick ??? Every other team Nails every draft PICK right ?!??!
Dominik FA choices havent been the best ,,, But How much of that was Raheem Morris ??! Did Dominik hype Quincy Black every year or was that Morris ??? Did Dominik challenge everyone to challenge the Mike CLayton signing ?? Did Dominik bring in LGB ?? MWill19 ?? Dez Driscoe ?? D Penn??
The guy is committed to rebuilding the Defense .. and is the youngest GM in the league .. Lets judge Dominiks FA choices with a New HC. I think he is doing very well …
January 6th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Rah wanted Ruud, Dom wanted Black FAIL!!!, Rah wanted Caddy, Dom wanted Lumpkin FAIL!, Michael Clayton FAIL!!, Derrick Ward FAIL!!!
No way Raheem had that much or any say at all in personnel matters.
January 6th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
I dont think FA signings are his strength … Derrick Ward had quite a few teams after him … And may have been decent if he wasnt lazy ..
I will let this FA season be the barometer to judge Dominik without Morris. But I feel he has drafted fairly well and really like he is attempting to make the team Dominant on the D-Line.
January 6th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
There is no point bringing about facts for Thomas. He has never, and will never, admit to being wrong. If I didn’t know any better, I would swear he was a woman.
January 6th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
I just don’t understand the big deal with fisher. Coaching record- 17 years- 142 and 120. Only six years with a winning record and 4 years were 13-3 inflating his over .500 mark and the others were 12-4 and 11-5. The rest of his years were .500 or worse. As a bucs fan, I am not looking for so so in our next coach.
January 6th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
@Thomas
Lets here your list in order of preference…
@Everyone
I notice the Glazer haters are all saying we should go for a name coach…a retread.
I would take Brian Billick over Sherman, but I prefer neither of them.
Martz is going to enter the picture at some point as well. Don’t think I want him either.
Everyone seems to be freaking out. How many days has this search been going on? Raheem was fired Monday, so the search started Tuesday…4 days and already people are going insane around here, lol.
An open mind…
…does not mean a public mind.
In all likelihood, the Glazers and Dominick are discussing each candidate. That doesn’t mean they are going to interview each. The MUST have a criteria to meet, and clearly Fisher does not meet it.
As I said before…
I may be wrong, but I do not expect a retread at all. Dungy was not a retread. Morris was not a retread. Gruden was a head coach at the time we got him…a winning head coach.
The Glazers have never hired a retread. That doesn’t mean they won’t, but it sure is leaning that they won’t.
Instead of freaking out and assuming the worse, why don’t you all just relax and watch. Consider this….
…Russ Grimm is Cody’s father…could it be that Cody is relaying messages, or feeling out his father’s desires to see if he were willing to come here?
I think the odds that he would come are high. What father would not want to coach his son on the professional level? We all know Grimm is a good player, so I doubt Guss would need to cut him….and besides…Dominick would be the one to do it.
Regardless, both Russ and Tom are busy preparing for playoff games. If we don’t see serious efforts on other coaches this week, I think there is a good chance we’ll see the Glazers go after one of them.
And I would be overjoyed to see that. Our best chance of winning quickly are one of those two guys…if not both.
January 6th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
“here” = “hear”…how embarrassing 😉
January 6th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Well with Fisher supposedly out of the running; I am much more concerned with what we do starting in March then what we do in the next 2-3 weeks in hiring a new coach. If they do not sign a number of much needed quality free agents I don’t think it will matter.
On a side note: I have been contacted twice by e-mail and twice by phone about renewing my season tickets. I left my CC at a bar in New Orleans and had to cancel it so the Bucs don’t have it on file. I spoke with someone from the Bucs today who said they have a potential customer who wants my 2 season tickets seats so they just wanted to let me know that I better renew or they may not be there. Sales 101, I said I will take my chances..
January 6th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Black was a veteran, and we were low on veteran leaders. It backfired, but not everything works out. For every failure you name, we can name a success or potential success.
We needed a fullback. Lumpkin actually got a little better toward the end. I would prefer someone else, but under the right teaching, he might get better. But probably not.
Michael Clayton was a crappy WR, but he was a primo blocker…and we needed that at the time. We overpaid for it, but crap happens.
Dereck Ward …gee…he went elsewhere and played better, so maybe it was the OC or the Oline?
January 6th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
If the Glazers hire Sherman it’s the fans fault. They were the ones who screamed bloody murder about Raheem’s inexperience, etc. You think they want to take a chance on an up and coming coordinator when you already think they are nothing but cheap bastards???? Noooooo Waaaaay! Sherman has experience and I’ll bet he won’t come cheap. He has a winning pedigree in the pros. Why should fans complain?? He actually has a better winning percentage than Fisher. Hey, fans should be happy! They went out and got you a REAL coach. Look…anything is a step up from what we had so I don’t understand all the dissent. Raheem is gone. Everyone got what they wanted there. I know it’s a sad day for those that have nothing left to cry about but the coaching search and the fact that Dom still has his job but try to cope….
January 6th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Leave no stone unturned.
Or rocks.
January 6th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
@Eric
But that doesn’t mean they bring every stone home to look it over. They could be doing plenty of research and holding discussions before deciding whether to bring someone in to interview.
January 6th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
I think working with Dom and taking orders from Dom are 2 different things. I believe Dom’s wings have been clipped and Stroud has been wrong more than a few times. The Glazers often keep decisions very close to the vest, and doubt seriously they are telling tales of what their preference for head coach. There appears to be a great deal of speculation by the media right now, which is okay, because any publicity is better than none. The Tom Clements choice appears to be a solid one, more so than Sherman in my opinion. I really like Brian Billick too since there is a barely a snowballs chance of getting Bissacia or Marinelli, but I will continue to bring it up, because thats what I do.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
what’s Fisher’s record against the Bucs, probably glazer boys hold a grudge
January 6th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
Here we go again Pete with the Dom defense. “For every failure you can name a success”. Alright, let’s play that game then.
Failures:
1) Black
2) Clayton
3) Ward
4) Not bringing back Caddy
5) Making a natural outside linebacker play middle linebacker as a rookie when you had the opportunity to sign Ruud to a 1 year bridge deal.
6) Failure to draft any pro-bowl players.
Success:
1) Drafting Freeman who the verdict is still very much out on still and probably wouldn’t have been drafted without Raheem Morris.
2) Drafting Adrian Clayborn was a great draft pick. Da’quan Bowers has a chance to be a great player.
3) Trading for Kellen Winslow was big time. I like that move alot.
I’m very much aware you’re going to give me a list of guys like Price, GMC, Mike Williams and Blount, and try to sell them off as elite talents. In reality those guys have proven zippo on a consistent basis, aside from showing major flaws (injury bug with the 2 DT’s, Blount can’t block and still doesn’t hit the right hole’s, and Mike Williams is close to the top of the league of drops and is afraid of contact). No elite talent has been acquired by Dom.
So there you go Pete, I played your game, and that’s 6 against Dom and 3 for Dom, with the ones going in Doms favor being average at best. Not great odds there my friend. The guy is a failure as a GM and has filled this roster with crap players for the last 3 seasons. Along with being a smug jerk who separated himself from the head coach just to save his own skin. My respect for Mark Dominik is in the gutter, just like I said it would be a few weeks ago if this scenario came to fruition.
January 6th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
And BTW, it is a total joke that Fisher isn’t even getting an interview. A total and complete joke. I absolutely love the people who try and disparage what this guys done over his career in the NFL. I hear people like Joe say “OH BOY, HE HASN’T DONE THIS AND THIS AND THIS AND THAT, AND THIS MANY WINNING SEASONS AND OH BOY HE’S A RETREAD” but then these clowns go on to want some coach that hasn’t proven SQUAT in the NFL! Explain to me how that logic makes sense people! I’m dumbfounded by this idea that an unproven coach is better than a proven coach.
Hey, I hear the defensive backs coach for the Rams is looking for a head coaching gig, maybe we should go hire him instead of a proven head coach….OH WAIT, WE ALREADY TRIED THAT IN TAMPA LOL. How’d that work out again??
January 6th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
I swear, reading some of these comments you’d think winning a Super Bowl is a bad thing. Unbelievable.
January 7th, 2012 at 1:08 am
@K2,
Quality rant, I like it. I agree 100% that Fisher should at least be in consideration for the job. However, I think the thing with hiring any long-time HC is you pretty much know what you are getting. Their body of work is out there, so there is a pretty good idea of the kind of coach they will be. Fisher is at worse a very solid coach, and in my opinion he is by far the safest pick of any available head coach (maybe even more so than Cowher, who’s kinda sorta but not really available). However, when you do hire a coordinator or coach with less HC experience, you have that chance to hit the jackpot. In our division, Payton and Mike Smith are both jackpots (I know Smith hasn’t really done jack, but he’s done a lot by Atlanta standards), and Rivera looks pretty good as well. So while in theory I agree with you, I also understand the reasoning behind wanting a coach with little HC experience. I just hope that our front office is doing their due diligence and is researching any and all possibilities, because this hire is critical to the future of our team.
January 7th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
I get what you’re saying Hawaiian. I understand that coaches with no experience have had lots of success. But my point is that we shouldn’t be pinning for one over a guy that’s already shown success. The logic behind that just doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. If/when we hire a guy with no success I’ll do the same that I did when we hired Raheem; give the guy a chance. I just think it’s ridiculous that people try to bash on Fishers career, then turn around and want guys that will probably never accomplish what Fisher did in Tennessee.
January 8th, 2012 at 2:51 am
Gotcha K2, makes sense to me and I agree 100%. Just like you, I’m going to give whoever gets hired a chance.