Olson Deserves The Daggers
November 17th, 2011
Former Bucs defensive end Steve White (1996-2001) is a real treat to have around town investing time enlightening Bucs fans.
White’s a true student of football, a deeply passionate Bucs fan, and he takes the time to watch Bucs games numerous times and share his detailed and entertaining takes. It also helps that he understands the intricacies of the Bucs defense. You may disagree with White, but he calls it straight from his knowledgable football head, as well as his heart.
Tuesday, White took to the Internet-only airwaves, those unregulated by FCC profanity statutes. He joined Derek “Old School” Fournier on WhatTheBuc.net to breakdown the Bucs-Texans debacle. This was not a broadcast for young children or squeamish types.
Needless to say, Joe enjoyed it very much.
White unloaded on offensive coordinator Greg Olson, saying he deserves a big share of the blame for the Bucs’ impotent offense. How bad was it? White said he would take Mike Shula immediately to replace Olson.
White explained in great detail, but in the center of the cauldron is the inexplicable lack of use of LeGarrette Blount. He also begs the Bucs’ brass to stop the BS of calling the Bucs a running football team.
Joe found himself standing and applauding in front of his laptop numerous times. Why Joe hasn’t cheered that much since the Bucs’ last victory. You can listen to the broadcast here.
Here’s one of White’s take on Kregg Lumpkin.
“We got a running back in Kregg Lumpkin that absolutely 100 percent is not looking to block anybody on a passing play. All he’s looking for is, ‘What’s the quickest way I can get out into this route? Because I know Josh is going to have to throw it to me because there ain’t nobody blocking for his ass.’
“Listen, Kregg Lumpkin is not a good football player. He’s our third-down back somehow. Don’t ask me how that happened. This is a guy who had several opportunities on Sunday to get first downs, and I swear, every single time he made the wrong cut or the wrong decision to get the final yard or yard and a half to get the fu*kn first down.
“So now we got an offense where we have a quarterback whose confidence is obviously shaky. You’re not giving him any help. You’re not chipping the defensive ends. You’re not leaving anybody in to help block. So he knows that he’s going to get hit pretty soon after he gets the ball out of shotgun. So he’s looking to throw it as soon as possible. Then everbody gets on his ass about throwing interceptions and being aggresssive. … So [Freeman’s] like, ‘Let me hit the dumpoff pass and jog off the field.’ Man, we’ve got the most inept offense I’ve seen around here in a long time.”
Joe’s no fan of Olson, though the offensive coordinator surely has been stymied by numerous drops and a quarterback who’s not throwing the ball like he did last year. But the Bucs offense is inexplicable at times, (Joe’s given up on ever seeing a pounding of Blount) and the first quarter results aren’t merely coincidence.
November 17th, 2011 at 10:24 am
I agree with Steve White (this time) about Lumpkin.
His blocking is terrible, especially on blitz pickups.
I missed the breakdown of the game done by Derek and Steve, thanks for the link Joe!
November 17th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Did anyone else notice Lumpkins attempted spin move last week? He spun 5 yards in front of the defender. Kinda like hitting the B button too soon. Needless the say the defender held his ground and made the tackle. And probably laughed at him back in the huddle. Funniest thing I ever saw.
November 17th, 2011 at 10:40 am
I remember when Rah got the job, a reporter asked him what he wanted to change on offense. He said he wanted to score TD’s. Great. Chucky had red zone issues his last few years too. And now “Helmet Hair” is using Chucky’s playbook and, wouldn’t you know, he’s having red zone issues. Can we scrap this playbook…please?
November 17th, 2011 at 10:41 am
I just can’t wait for the first end-around to Benn. Green Bay will never see it coming.
November 17th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Coincidence that Gruden couldn’t (wouldn’t) find a way to use Alstott all the time and Olson can’t (won’t) do the same with Blount?
November 17th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Olson should be fired because of how badly he misuses (or unuses!) Blount. He’s just a terrible OC.
November 17th, 2011 at 11:15 am
So your saying the Bucs will probably make Olson assistant HC in he offseason ?!
November 17th, 2011 at 11:55 am
That is mostly critical of lumpkin and dominik, not olsOn
Thomas, we’re talking about 20+ minutes of audio. This is only a select quote. –Joe
November 17th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Ever notice how White is always critical of coordinators and position coaches but never Rah.
November 17th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Absolutely agree.
Out with dink and dunk or out with Olsen.
I want the vertical game that we were told.
November 17th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
He’s ruining that kid’s shirt. What a jerk.
November 17th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
@lightningbuc
Steve White does criticize Raheem, especially where the defense is concerned.
November 17th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
@Oahubuc – brilliant! I’ve got to agree and I always prefer the wait and see approach. But man I’ve seen enough. Three yard passes when we need nine is giving me nightmares of the old Chucky dink and dunk of years past. Where is the 50 yard bomb to Benn? We NEVER air it out anymore. Last year I thought I saw the future with the Bucs chucking the rock all over the place. This year it’s like Olsen said, “Hold on Bessy, this is the Bucs were talking about. They aren’t allowed to have a good offense let me pull the reigns back.” His game plans (if you can call them that) pretty much suck and his play selection just doesn’t seem like an attack style offense. Every time we get a big gain I almost feel like it was luck instead of by design. I still have faith in #5 though so maybe he can save this offense. Go Bucs!
November 17th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Joe, that quote you quoted from Steve White is actually about K2 not Lumpkin.
I agree with Steve White, 100%. Im calling for Olsen’s head and I have been since 3 years ago. Olsen is not worthy and isn’t smart enough to be an OC and its been showing the last couple weeks. Instead of use common sense, he tries to out think and obviously isn’t smart enough to trick defenses but he continues to try. The end-around is a perfect example. Our defense is whole nother story and that falls on Rah. Our DBs aren’t playing or even trying, minus Ronde. Sean Jones is horrible, Talib doesn’t even try to tackle. Hayward, Clayborn, and Hayes are the only ones that try on defense.
November 17th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Yet another ex athlete saying the same thing. Evereybody can’t be wrong. Olsen is a horrible OC. Time to let this coaching staff go.
November 17th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
NOT a big fan of taking a left over on the staff after the guy you wanted turned out to be a complete bust…sorry Greg but you need to earn your stripes before you get the BIG gig
November 17th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Joe here,
@TB Rican of WhatTheBuc and @Thomas 2.2 — Dudes, this is an exact transcription. It’s not about K2. Check out the audio.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Steve White must be reading my diary because I swear I have said the same exact things.
November 17th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
White makes a very good point about the blocking for Freeman. There have only been a few times when he’s been given time to throw without taking a lot of risk, and he’s almost always hit directly afterward.
I agree Olson should go, but my concern is the development of Josh. Multiple OCs is not a good thing for a young QB.
But if they can find the right guy…go for it.
November 17th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Isn’t olson the 2nd OC Josh has had?
November 17th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
I must admit I am not feeling the team right now because after listening to this it confirms the X’s and O’s are not being taught or adjustments are not being made. The Bucs have some issues and I am glad that Steve went in on Olsen because he needs to be oudst after this year. Big Dog asked if we wanted to set Freeman back another 3 years if we change OC’s this off-season and I would counterpoint or do you want to mentally ruin him from working under an idiot? Bucs better takes this serious or risk another decade of mediocrity. I am also convinced that Raheem cannot be a successful DC and head coach. Too many details are being missed and it seems like he has let the defense not trust and now everyone is playing to a different beat. Yes its all on him like he said. We will see but I dont see this going well next year either. This team has a college feel not just age but execution, to it.
November 17th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Part of the problem is that we just don’t have any speed on offense. Obviously, that is not Olsen’s fault. However, the biggest problem I have with Olsen this season is what I consider a lack of creativity. Josh Johnson is probably the fastest player we have on the team, why don’t we use it (other than a stupid QB read on 3rd and 4 at a critical point in the game). Put him at WR and send him deep. How about playing up tempo early in the game??? Don’t give me the BS about Blount not being a part of that package – MAKE him a part of that package! Why do we have to wait until we are down 3 scores before we play up tempo? How about a flea flicker? How about a HB pass? Anything to show that we are trying to score. My favorite thing about signing Haynesworth is that it was an act of desperation. I would love to see that same desperation on offense. It’s pretty obvious what we have been doing is not working. We are 9 games in , so it is highly unlikely that we are all of a sudden going to become a prolific offense. Try something new, that’s all I really ask.
November 17th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
Olsen is in over his head. To be a successful offense in the NFL the offensive coordinator has to be on top of his game. Olsen is running high school offense. That won’t cut it.
November 17th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Hawaiian Buc,
That has been my point, the personnel at this point is what its gonna be so maximize their attributes. Running successful after two tries then passing attempts that end in sacks are just damming of Olsen’s idiotic playcalling. I am more upset that the Bucs did not acquire the personnel to help Freeman. I said earlier that Bernard Berrian was our there, Donte Stallworth, and others were available at a low rate that can learn some packages and be assets. I gyarantee they are faster and more productive then our young players and know the game better. I am not implying we should make them long term fixtures but they can help us. On defense we are who we are too. No speed in the secondary and no enforces. The linbackers are subpar except Foster but Black and Hayes are bench players on a good team. It seems that teams are looking at the film and attacking our weaknesses but we can’t attack theirs. We have regressed in many areas but the future will be brighter with a different set of coaches and more talent.