In Response To Ruud, Raheem Is “Optimistic”
July 29th, 2011This one’s a very tough call on context, so Joe will let his readers decide via this TampaBay.com video.
During a brief news conference today at One Buc Palace, Raheem Morris was asked if he has “closed the door on bringing back Barrett Ruud.” Midway through his answer, Raheem said “I’m optimistic.” Check it out below.
Joe’s not ruling out Ruud’s return and will stick to his initial odds of a 10 percent chance of Ruud coming back following Mark Dominik throwing cold water on Ruud’s prospects on Tuesday. But those those odds have to increase as time goes on and the market value of Ruud seemingly plummets.
July 29th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Ruh-Roh. Patty Y says the Falcons just signed Ray Edwards. Someone tell Trueblood to get his cleats on.
July 29th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
I would MUCH rather have Ruud back there on opening day than a vet coming off an injury with no experience in our system like Nick Barnett.
Give him a Trueblood style contract, if he’ll accept only a few years, and see how Mason Foster develops.
July 29th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Per some of my first tweets. 🙂
Awesome that Bowers was a full go. And Price looked good at 350lbs? Ummm.
July 29th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
I am sure that Dominik has offered a low 2 year deal that will be easy to Cut Ruud after 1 year. That is how it will go down. Ruud will sign it, after Dominik tells him that as soon as someone else is ready, your gone.
July 29th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Jamersands, I agree with that 100%.
I just don’t think Ruud will. Two more years down the road and he won’t ever get a payday from any other team. I’d be in favor of a 2 year ~12million deal, front loaded with a bonus and then really heavy on incentive money via “splash” plays.
Let him start and then work in Foster as the season goes on. I’d be a big fan of that
July 29th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Noticed how rah scratched his face when asked the question. Probably means he was lying about being optimistic.
July 29th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
We just gained more leverage on Ruud with McKenzie’s INT today. (Grimm also picked one off)
July 29th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
I think most of us are burnt out on the Ruud front. I know I am.
July 29th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
@Gary “Lie to Me” was cancelled in May. Sorry bro.
July 29th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Raheem is always optimistic. Nothing seems to get him down.
July 29th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
he did look unsure about RUDD…guess we will see
July 29th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Sure seems like teams aren’t going crazy trying to sign Ruud. He’s got to be talking to someone. I think Dominik is playing hardball.
July 29th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
He’s sure he’ll see him; on the golf course!
July 29th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
…..and the Falcons sign Ray Edwards. Every team in the NFC South is adding pieces, except for one
July 29th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Joe, why are my posts getting removed?
July 29th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
@banana What do you call our first 3 draft picks?
July 29th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
@Muaha
I call them 3 early twenty-somethings who have never taken a snap as a professional
July 29th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Did the second wave of FA start yet? I expected to hear about alot more cuts by now.
July 29th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Morris said he likes the youth, toughness and intensity McKenzie and Foster bring.
“McKenzie is a thumper,” Morris said. “He’s a big individual who’s very good in the box. He has a demanding mike linebacker type of attitude. He’s a no-nonese type of guy. He has a lot of similarities to what Foster brings. Foster was a very active guy in college, and he we’ll look for him to be the same active guy in the pros. Hopefully he can bring some of that nasty thump and swagger.”
July 29th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Joe .. Are you gonna have pictures today ??
July 29th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
god i hate laptop speakers…
July 29th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
So draft picks aren’t pieces. I guess Warren Sapp, Brooks, Lynch, and Ronde weren’t pieces either. If only we would have used free agency instead of the draft back then we would have never had to deal with those nonpieces on the field.
July 29th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
i think the bucs are gonna regret letting the stinking saints sign darren sproles when we could use him here, and the saints dont even really need him
July 29th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Mauha Deeb
Could not agree more. From the sounds of the pres conference, it seems to me McKenzie and Foster are the MLBs going forward.
I don’t even think the Bucs are going to offer Ruud anything at this point.
July 29th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
@Muaha-
So now Bowers, Clayton, and Foster are hall of famers?
Wow
July 29th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Jampersands Says:
July 29th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
“Ruh-Roh. Patty Y says the Falcons just signed Ray Edwards.”
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I see that it is offical now. That sucks. BUT, is Edwards a gamble without Allen on one end and the Williams’s’s’s clogging the middle? Many believe he was a product of the rest of the line and a one hit wonder.
Worth the gamble for ATL because all they have is John Abraham who is getting up there in age. I believe he is 33 or 34. He did have a damn good year last but had nothing the year before… we shall see.
Either way, a good move by ATL…. unfortunately
July 29th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
@Mauha It is a possibility. A better possibility than Edwards. Still, we don’t want possible HOFers, we want pieces. Right?
July 29th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
lol I meant that to be “@banana”
I’m so full of myself sometimes lol
July 29th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
CreamsicleBananaHammock Says:
July 29th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
@Muaha-
“So now Bowers, Clayton, and Foster are hall of famers?
Wow”
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Amazing how some of you read what you want, insert things between the lines, distort reality, and have no reading comprehension skills what-so-ever.
My point is, I am pretty sure he did not even come close to saying that.
July 29th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
@banana We didn’t know those guys were gonna turn out to be HOFers. But they did, and the point being “how did we get them”? Drafting, not free agency. Thanks for strengthening my argument.
July 29th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Why does Tampa always hire guys that give it there all and more and it always ends up a big disappointment at the end for the fans? Look at how they did joey galloway,Antonio bryant,keenan mcardell they don’t believe in paying stat worthy players. You cut RUUD and you throw away 100+ tackles per year. He’s not the best in dropping into coverage but he’s solid.
July 29th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Joe here,
@Gary – No clue why your posts are getting removed.
July 29th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
@Mauha
Your argument means nothing because we never would have won a championship without McCardell, Key, Brad Johnson, Pittman, Dilger, Oben, Simeon…..none of who were drafted
I agree that you build your team through the draft. But this Bucs team is essentially built. The foundation is set. Now, with a free agency full of more talent than we’ve ever seen or probably will ever see, is the time to add the finishing touches.
Can you convince me that Earnest Graham is a better FB than Vonta Leach? That Caddy is a better change-up for Blount than Ahmad Bradshaw or Darren Sproles would have been? That you would be more confident in our defense with EJ Biggers on the field rather than Nnamdi Asomugha? I didn’t think so.
It seems to me the ONLY knock against bringing in a few big names that would make our team better……..is that they weren’t drafted by the Bucs. It’s just an asinine philosophy
July 29th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
use headphones to hear
July 29th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
If we win our division/playoff game/super bowl will it really matter?
We’ve got #5…
GO BUCS!
July 29th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
This team wont get 10 wins this year. Im willing to put money down on that bet. This team is way overhyped. Everyone in the division got better except for us. Chepest owners in the NFL.
July 29th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
@banana Well, I just posted a long ass post and for some reason it didn’t go through. I’m not gonna type it again.
History sayss free agents don’t live up to there former selves or hype. I don’t want to blow money on 2 or 3 big name freeagents and have them play subpar and put us in a cap bind in a year or two.
July 29th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Not happy with the Stiffblood and Q “jane” Black signing. Owell.
July 29th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
@Jerry Yep. A year of progression, a healthy team, two far more talented DEs, a stud LB, and an improved offensive/defensive coaching staff….. Your right. Nothing to be proud of at all. We’d be lucky to win 2 games with petty those upgrade…..
I swear it is just Thomas.
July 29th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
@Joe
My posts were disappearing yesterday as well. And for about a minute or so, the website went down for me.
@CreamsicleBananaHammock
Dominick said it best. Free Agency is used to add final pieces to a team.
And I agree. I think people are seeing what they see every year…a crop of FAs that are available, and it feels like a race to get them.
But honestly…why would we?
Do you know why we just signed the best Punter on the market?? Because Morris and Dominick tried going the other route nad it didn’t work out.
But is this team ready for the “final” pieces?
Lets see:
1) Defensive Line
We have a 3rd year DT, 2 2nd year DTs and 2 rookie DEs on the line.
2) We have a rookie MLB behind the line.
3) None of the young players got the quality coaching they needed to get to this point.
4) We have a Safety on suspension
5) We have a CB facing suspension
6) Our other CB is great, but aged and near retirement
7) On WRs we have Stroughter, 2 2nd year guys and Spurlock. Hopefully Stovall is gone.
8) Our star Wide Receiver is unproven. We saw Clayton have a good rookie year and how did that go?
9) Our star RB is a 2nd year player
10 ) We have a slew of 2nd year players than came in last year and played well, who earned spots for at least this year on the roster.
This team is NOT REBUILT.
Rebuilding is NOT just a matter of bringing in talent, it’s a matter of DEVELOPING IT.
And simply put, our team is still in that developmental phase. We are not ready to make spashes in Free Agency at all.
In fact, our Defensive Line and MLB will likely start ofrf very poorly because of the lockout and the youth this year.
July 29th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
I love how we are still in the first day of free agency and everyone is panicking as if nothing is going to happen. You know they have to spend money. They will bring guys in. Relax. It really isn’t the end of the team anyways.
July 29th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
@Mauha Deeb
On the flip side, Faine and Wonslow have lived up to the hype. So did Meshawn when we got him (at first). Nickerson was an FA I think, right? And Shelton?
July 29th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
I would have dumped injury proned quincy black and kept RUUD and slide mason foster in quincy blacks spot and sign namdi and then I’d sound like Donald Penn promising super bowls…can we at least sign RUUD so I can promise a playoff lol
July 29th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
But I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who’s watching our division gain access to the pieces we’re missing. I agree sproles would have fit in great. Most of our wins was nailbiters so I’m not so amped on the moves we’ve made. I think mike Williams is gonna get shut down this year 500 yards at the most for him.
July 29th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Keyshawn, Faine, nor Winslow ever deserve the contracts they received. Winslow was the highest paid TE in the NFL after we signed him. Is he the best TE now? He isn’t even in the top 5. Faine has never lived up to anything. He has not played well since he got here. Mostly he just didn’t play bad. Is that really worth the most money for a Center in history(at the time)? Keyshawn was paid sooooo much more money than his worth. Lets not even go there. Shelton was solid but we didn’t over pay for him. Nickerson was paid a mere $5 million for 3 years(yes I know the game is different now but that was low even then).
July 29th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Ok maybe faine isn’t worth his money but winslow has been great during his tenure in Tampa me being a athlete myself knows how it feels to play with a knee ailment for a entire season. So why don’t you damage your knee and let’s see the stats you put up @ mauha deeb.
July 29th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
@pete, you hit the nail on the head. we’re still in that developmental phase. This will be the year when leaders start to emerge and we establish an identiy. Although its tough to see FAs getting snagged left & right, in the end, I have faith in the Blueprint.
July 29th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Faine has been solid, and without Winslow, I don’t see Freeman putting up the numbers like he did last year. Winslow has been crucial to Freemans development.
July 29th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
The team is going to face an uphill battle this year. If we go 8-8 that would be progress.
July 29th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
@Bucsalltheway Don’t get it twisted, I think Winslow has been great. A rarity of our free agent signings. Still don’t believe he is worth that money, but he has benefited our team immensely. To the point that only few others could.
On the knee injury comment, that is completely irrelevant. What does him having a knee injury have to do with me personally? Keep the kiddy comparisons on the playground.
@tony2cents Faine has not even been solid. He is hurt every year and when he does play he is made to look like a baby in cleats. He was never even hired for his physicality. He was hired to call line audibles and blitz protections in Gruden’s scheme. Freeman does all that now, so Faine’s best quality is irrelevant. We need a center who can push and pull with ferocity, not diagnose blitzes. Zuttah can do that better than Faine. I’m willing to bet any one of our OL could do it better than Faine.
July 29th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
bucsalltheway Says:
July 29th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Why does Tampa always hire guys that give it there all and more and it always ends up a big disappointment at the end for the fans? Look at how they did joey galloway,Antonio bryant,keenan mcardell they don’t believe in paying stat worthy players. You cut RUUD and you throw away 100+ tackles per year. He’s not the best in dropping into coverage but he’s solid.
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What exactly did any of those WRs do after they were gone? Seems to me they got rid of them at the right time. In fact every player they got rid of 2 years ago has done absolutely nothing. The only one I disagreed with was Brooks…. he should have been given the option of one more year.
As far Ruud, They aren’t “Throwing Away” 100+ tackles. ANY MLB in this sytem will get that, especially chasing people 5 yards downfield.
July 29th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
The funny thing is the SAME PEOPLE were screaming (whining, bitchin, etc…) about FAs, the draft, Raheem, Mark D, etc… last year.
You would think they earned a year of having some of you shut up and have a little faith.
If McCoy and Williams and Blount and Benn and Freeman and Joseph and Penn and Foster and Grimm etc… fall on their face this year…. then you have a right to whine.
In the meantime, all indicators point to them doing one hell of a job and building a lasting contender.
I just guess some people are forever pessimistic or just like to whine and complain no matter what.
(If only Chucky was here!!! Then we could have signed more than our fair share of 35+ year olds!!)
July 29th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
@Dave On point, brother!
July 29th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
My post posted, then deleted…wtf? Anyway, linked an article that says we may already be done in free agency for the year with Michael Koenen:
http://www.bucsnation.com/2011/7/29/2303726/the-tampa-bay-buccaneers-may-have-already-reached-the-salary-floor
July 29th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
I think we need to resign this guy. AND what are we doing. All the good players are getting signed and traded and we have over 40 million to spend. WTF!!!! I’m glad we signed Davin back. We missed out on Jonathon Joseph. So its down to Nnamdi and Cromartie. I would much rather have Cro’ since he is way younger than Nnamdi and cheaper. We are gonna end up overpaying average players to fill in the cap if we keep letting players get away. Come on BUCS…get it together!!!!
July 29th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
@Dave & @Muaha-
Simply not true……on the now defunct TBBBB I was vehemently opposed to adding FA’s in previous years. I just think this team is closer to being great than you guys do. I think the foundation is in place and now it’s time to become elite. Clearly I’m in the minority on that point. Oh well
July 29th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Funky Monkey:
If we sign Cromartie, I will be completely shocked; he just does not fit in with our theme of character>all.
As an aside, I think the reason why a lot of people are annoyed by this FA period (at least why I am a little annoyed) is the simple fact that approximately 25 percent of the league is free agents, and there will never be a FA class anywhere near this big again due to no one wanting to lock down players last year; it feels like an opportunity squandered, especially when a lot of the people that are in this FA class at the moment kind of correspond with the years when Gruden and Allen were drafting; we have basically NO players on our team from that period.
July 29th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Joe here,
@Wieneman — Please don’t post links in the comments section here to other Bucs media. Feel free to talk all about it without the link. This isn’t a message board, and Joe likes to keep the comments somewhat on point to the JoeBucsFan post. … On a side note, wild speculation on where the Bucs are to the salary floor is a waste of time.
July 29th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Please someone make this Ruud talk go away!!!!!!
July 29th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Joe:
I apologize for posting the link, had not heard that rule before; having said that, not sure exactly how I would have made any kind of a credible statement from personal experience. By the by, is it a waste of time? Not to my mind, due to the simple fact that it emphasizes the fact tha we may NOT have the cap room that everyone thinks we have, at this point…the reason I posted it was to point out that there is a remote possibility that we are already set for the season and all these people posting “OMG SPEND THE 40 MILLION WE HAVE” have no idea what they are talking about…basically it is the devil’s advocate posting to counter what everyone else is saying.
July 29th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
To all the whiners: STFU.
July 29th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
I only said that because u was sounding like a winslow hater..and the comment about the knee was clearly stating its hard to put up the numbers he has put up with a knee ailment a piece of you is gone while your playing under those circumstances.@ mauha deeb. I was basically raising a point if he was 100% every game he’d be amongst the elite TE’S
July 29th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
faine isn’t solid nor consistant he gets injured every year and makes excuses for his mishaps how could yall want a center who still at heart in new Orleans.Jeremy zuttah can snap and open holes on a consistent basis. Just know faine isn’t irreplaceable.
July 29th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
@Weinaman I think Joe was saying you could have written “Over at Bucs Nation there is an article that says the Bucs might already be near the salary cap.”
I’m sure the issue of putting links in the comment section arise from people ad exposure but I could be wrong.
Either way, I guess we are just suppose to talk about it and not add links.
July 29th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
@bucsalltheway “I was basically raising a point if he was 100% every game he’d be amongst the elite TE’S”
We will find out this year. All signs are that his knee is in great shape. I hope so. I am expecting Winslow to post a 1k yard year with 8+ TDs.
July 29th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Mauha:
Having extra time off to work at his own pace either was a huge advantage or a huge disadvantage for him; we will find out in a couple months (Winslow). Once Gonzalez retires, or heck, if he has a bad year as he continues to decline, doesn’t Winslow (or maybe Mercedes Lewis) make the jump into the top five Tight Ends in the league, too? I think coming into this season, Lewis and Winslow are the 6a and 6b tight ends, with them being interchangeable.
July 29th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
@Wienaman
1-2: Antonio Gates or Jason Witten
3: Vernon Davis
4: Dallas Clark
5: Jermichael Finley, Tony Gonzalez, Marcedes Lewis, Kellen Winslow Jr???
Perhaps Winslow is a top five after all.
July 29th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
@Joe – looking forward to some camp updates/articles…I neeed my fix!
July 29th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
I did not mean Jermichael Finley. I meant Chris Cooley.
Really, it is only between Cooley, Gonzalez and K2. I was just giving Lewis the benefit of a doubt.
July 29th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
@Dave, “it seems to me McKenzie and Foster are the MLBs going forward.”
WOW! I look forward to seeing our defense going through MORE “growing pains” with a D line that has a combined 2 years of total experience, a rookie linebacker in the middle of the defense, a possibly suspended Talib, and a mediocre Black starting. Our defense needs a spark and actually needs to significantly improve.
I’m still waiting for a couple of linebackers and possibly Nnamdi. Assuming the small chance we get him comes true, and Talib doesn’t go to jail, that’s gonna be a lethal CB duo.
July 29th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Cromartie doesn’t have bad character. The only trouble he has been in is child support. That is it. This is a passing league and you have to have top DBs to cover all these really good WRs. We currently do not have that…so we already lost the guy I wanted (Joseph). So Cromartie is left. Nnamdi is 31 so I don’t see that happening.
July 29th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Funky, Cromartie isn’t physical enough to play here. I don’t like the “doesn’t fit in our system” talk, because I believe a good coach forms to his talent and not the other way around….
But the Bucs will never sign a corner that won’t stick his nose into the mix at the line of scrimmage
July 29th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
Price has been driven up too high for the Jets on Asomugha. They just bowed out of the sweepstakes according to Clayton. Looks like the ‘Boys are the favorites now. You can bet the Bucs are nowhere near this insane overpriced auction. And I agree.
July 29th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Dolphins cut Channing Crowder??? Unbelievable! Said it was cap issues.
Now there us a perfect fit for our defense!
July 29th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
And the 89% minimum spend to reach the salary floor doesn’t come into effect ’till 2013, so the Bucs don’t even have to be anywhere in the ballpark of $107 million for two more years. Lol! And a lot of Bucs fans kept clamoring, “They have to spend! They have to! They simply HAVE to!”
Um…no, actually they don’t. Not for two more years.
Cracks me up! 😀
July 29th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Hahahahaha!
Channing Crowder…bahahahaha!
You’re serious?! He’s one of the biggest LB busts of the last decade!
Do you even watch football?!
July 29th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
@FLBoyInDallas…….Um…no, actually they don’t. Not for two more years.
Cracks me up!
Cracks me up they gave Quincy Black 11.5 million guarenteed just for next season
July 29th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
looks like the Cowboys AND Jets are out of Nnamdi bid
July 29th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
@Patrick What do you mean “Just for next season”? He was signed for 5 years. Guaranteed money isn’t guaranteed upfront. It is guaranteed over the life of the contract, or if the player is released early.
July 29th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
if those guys are out, we must be WAY out.
Schefter saying it looks like Eagles.
July 29th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Nnamdi to Eagles. At least we can finally end speculation.
July 29th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Guess the Eagles considered DB more of a “need” than we did……even though they have DRC & Asante
July 29th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
he only got 60mil for 5 years? thought it would be closer to 20mil/yr
July 29th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
That makes no sense if the eagles pick him up. That would leave DRC on the bench. That kid is a #1 or #2 at veryvery least.
July 29th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
But it sure does make them better doesn’t it Mauha?
July 29th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Well, someone is going to be released next year.
July 29th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
@mauha
agreed, makes no sense unless they look to trade drc or samuel
July 29th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
@Creamsicle………maybe they’ll let Asante go. He’s 30, but he went to four straight pro bowl’s from 2007-2010. He also won two SB rings with the Pats, so the guy knows what it takes to win
Idk, if I had DRC and Asante on my team already, I wouldn’t be bidding for Aso. Doesn’t sound right.
July 29th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Nnamdi signs with the Eagles for only $12 mil a year.
We didnt even make an offer.
I dont get it.
July 29th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Of course it does. before they had DRC they had nothing. I would have picked either one, but not both.
July 29th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
Trade Samuels? That is crazy talk lol I personally believe he is right at the top with Revis.
July 29th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
Samuels hasn’t reported to Iggles camp yet (excused abscence)…..Wouldn’t surprise me if they already have a deal worked out
July 29th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Nobody legit is going to sign to play for the Dream……………..why play for a team where u have to put a gun to their head to get a decent contract?
July 29th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
@banana If it were to go down, where do you think he could/would go? Obviously the Jets and Cowboys are interested at a CB.
July 29th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
if Dom couldn’t get Nnamdi at $12mil/yr, I’d have to say he’s like Junior Soprano describing Richie April: “He just couldn’t sell it!”
July 29th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
@Eric I doubt Black was waving any firearms for a contract.
July 29th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
oh well..If it doesn’t fit the Blueprint, it doesnt fit the Blueprint. still trust you Dom
July 29th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
Well I’d take the ‘Boys out of the equations bc I can’t picture the Eagles trading him in their own division…..
With the Eagles though, who knows? They’ll end up turning it into a first rd pick or something ridiculous……..
July 29th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Oh well, I think all the good free agent cornerbacks are gone pretty much
July 29th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
lol at Holders tweet:
Bucs signing restricted free agents now that we’re past 6 pm: Spurlock, Barth, E. Mack and Rudy Carpenter
yay
July 29th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
You complainers are seriously making me laugh. Every move, or non-move, is a tragedy for you. Lol!
July 29th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
barnett negotiating with lions. looks like we WILL see him week one
July 29th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
@banana I’d take him for a 2nd round pick in a snap. Of course, this is still speculation. He is $9.3mil towards the Eagles cap this year. With their other signs, they have to be over cap now.
July 29th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
im just tired of making moves or being reported to be trying to make moves and then not landing anyone it seems a little odd is all
July 29th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Plus I think we could restructure a new contract after this season.
July 29th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Dude, that was not my writing. That was my little brother. Sorry.
July 29th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Are we seriously re-signing Elbert Mack?!?! That guy sucks and couldn’t cover if his life depended on it!! Time to say buh bye to him
July 29th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
Mack won’t make it to the regular 53-man squad. They need him for camp & preseason is all. Watch for Gaitor to take Mack’s roster spot.
July 29th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
@Patrick I think Mack is just camp fodder. With Anthony Gaitor undoubtedly making the team, Mack is no longer a need.
July 29th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Raheem looks so much more composed this year. Talking and acting like a seasoned head coach. Good sign of great things to come.
July 29th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Down goes Mike Williams…carted off. Holder thinks it might be a cramp but not sure.
July 29th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
… welcome to mantime?