Would Beating Washington Be An Upset?
December 2nd, 2010
Regardless of what happens Sunday against Atlanta, Joe fully expects the Bucs to win their next three games, at Washington and home against Detroit and Seattle — three team with losing records.
But in an exclusive interview for the Atlanta Falcons’ website, beat writer Rick Stroud of the St. Pete Times claims beating the second rate Redskins on Dec. 12 would be an upset.
Huh?
Rick Stroud: The Bucs have the youngest team in the NFL and a second-year quarterback who looks like the real deal in Josh Freeman. That said, they have not beaten a team with a winning record this season, losing to the Saints, Steelers, Falcons and Ravens. They have two more chances to get that signature win, the first one coming Sunday against Atlanta at Raymond James Stadium. Defensively, they are improving every week, with a shutout against San Francisco and having shut out five other teams in the second half this season. Remember, they were only a few inches away from beating the Falcons in the Georgia Dome. This is a team that could win 10 games if they beat Seattle and Detroit at home and either upset Atlanta or New Orleans or Washington, the last two on the road. But 10 wins may not be enough to reach the playoffs in the NFC. In fact, it could be third place in the division.
Joe’s not getting how Stroud can call winning in Washington an upset. The ‘Skins are 5-6. They’re 2-4 at home and they’ve lost three out of four. Plus they probably will lose at the Giants on Sunday.
Sure, they’ve got talent, but c’mon.
Raheem Morris has said to the media many times that it has higher expections for other teams than it does for the Bucs. This is a prime example.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:32 am
Would not surprise me at all if the “public” has the Bucs as a three point dog in this game. Although if we get slight pressure on McNabb and shut down their ONLY WR I don’t see us losing.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:55 am
I hate to keep pointing out that the local sports writers are a bunch of hacks but everytime these guys open their mouths they prove that they don’t know what they are talking about.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:57 am
Honestly, I still feel like every win is an upset. As big of a fan as I’ve become of this 2010 team they are still wildly over achieving…..
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:44 pm
You can’t judge a team on what it was suppose to be, but rather what it is. The redskins were suppose to challenge the Giants for thier division. What happened is the Redskins have self destructed and struggled, the Giants have been up or down, and Vick has the Eagles flying high.
The Bucs were suppose to suck, but they are 7-4. They came within 16 inches of beating the Falcons and played a hard fought game in Baltimore last week. We aren’t over achieving anymore. This is who we are.
The Redskins should we the underdogs without a doubt.
December 2nd, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Joe, you never know when a savvy veteran like McNabb can explode. It all depends on Rah’s gameplanning, McNabb would be the best QB Bucs would be facing aside from Brees and Ryan, to whom Bucs lost.
December 2nd, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Hell no. Washington sucks; there are no ifs, ands, or buts about it. They don’t have Portis, continuously have player & coaching problems, and McNabb is not the same QB that he once was. The Bucs SHOULD beat the Deadskins.
IMO it would be more of an upset if they beat us!
December 2nd, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Ronde will make Mcnabb his bitch. I predict a bucs win and a season ending injury for mcnabb in that game.
December 2nd, 2010 at 2:37 pm
7-4 to 7-5 and then 7-6 post McNabb loss?
Wonder who will get released or fired by then?
December 2nd, 2010 at 2:58 pm
preferably Buc You… we can dream!
December 2nd, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Don’t be upset with Buc You he’s just still upset that his favorite Buc Player was released the other day.
Don’t worry Buc You you can still see Sabby being out of position and missing tackles Cleveland.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:15 pm
There’s no doubt Donovan can kick the Bucs ass on any given Sunday. I’ve seen it too many times to doubt it. I’ve also seen the bad McNabb. That could easily be what that game comes down to. Who shows up- good McNabb or bad McNabb. So far this season its looking like the personality of bad McNabb has had control of the body more often than not.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Would everyone stop looking through the rear vision mirror. Anyone with just the slightest bit of football smarts can tell they are getting better by the week. They have taken action to move out the old wood and replace with kids willing to play hard and its working. What happened against the Saints and Pits, have no bearing on the current makeup of the team, nor their ability to currently play at the standard of the so called high caliber teams.
Looking back at history is a mistake prevalent in business, politics and sports. Likewise, upsets are a luck derivative and there is nothing about the bucks play that is luck. The offense is getting better by the weak and the defense, coaching and special teams are continually progressing. Forget about the bloggers, focus on the bright spots and enjoy. One last thing, the bucs are a 3 point underdog to the league leading Falcons. That is the tightest spread in pro football this week. So i say, look to the guys that put their money where there mouth is.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:21 pm
And once again Buc You makes the most assinine comment possible completely ignoring logic to compare the situation of a 2nd year coach overachieving with rookies and castoffs to the situation of a long time coach with a team full of nothing but veterans having an embarassing collapse. Seriously Joe cant a poster at some point be banned for consistently annoying the JBF community with their ingorance?
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:49 pm
gitarlvr:
if banning for ridiculuous comments were possible, you would have been gone long ago.
As much as you attack bucyou for “annoying,” you much more irritate the “haters” and realist alike with your extremely soft and organizationally-slanted, Rah-idolizing-subjective takes – article after article – similar to others like the lieutenant. You guys are to JoeBucFan.com – what Nancy Pelosi is to the democrats or Rush Limbaugh to the Republicans – the extremely far end of the – “I love Rah and everything he does camp even so much so that I can’t acknowledge even the most obvious flaws.”
The team is 7-4, if they beat atlanta, they deserve a bunch of credit, if they lose, they are 7-5, better than expected but still haven’t beaten a legit team. That is a fact. Most of the improvement is offensive. Mccoy has improved the last two weeks, we will see if it lasts.
There are some who disagree with us that we respect do to their objectivity and support. You are not one.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Thomas,
You’re right that well thought out comments that present a respectful and intelligent argument should be respected.
Having said that. I have yet to see a comment from Buc You that meets those requirements.
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:04 pm
touche!
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:57 pm
this is a tough crowd.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Thomas 2.1 you are quite often making the same hateful comments with absolutely no logical reasoning behind them as Buc You. You aren’t quite as consistently ludicrous but you make a nice understudy to him.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:16 pm
Congratulations Thomas 2.1- You are the 2nd string Buc You.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:23 pm
A BTW Thomas I have criticised Rah before on this site. Earlier in the season when the D was getting blown up by the Saints and Rah was keeping Blount on the bench I had plenty of criticism for him. However the team has completely outstripped any expectations and the D has played very well over the last two games yet people like you continue with your hate for Raheem even as every last shaky talking point for you to back up your hate continues to crumble. Stop trying to pretend like you bring some kind of objective fair minded analysis to your posts.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Guys, Donovan McNabb is still a very good QB. The big reason why he hasn’t had a good season is because he’s had to learn a whole new offense and to top it off, he doesn’t have any great receivers. His only decent receiver is Santana Moss. He’s also got Chris Cooley at TE but still not a lot of weapons like he had in Philly.
I agree. We can’t take the Washington game for granted. McNabb can VERY WELL give us an ass whooping. I remember back in that 2006 game when Ronde took 2 INT’s to the house, but McNabb still threw for almost 400 yards and 3 TD’s to bring the Eagles back. Then that crazy 62 yard field goal happened.
McNabb killed us last year in Philly, but that was with the disastrous Jim Bates defense. Thank God we have the good ole Tampa 2 back! It should be much different this time.
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Shanahan is really fun to watch, when he is Losing. And Donovan has ate too much Campbells Soup to escape McCoy. No way we lose to these clowns.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Well – maybe Rick was talking about the difference in team salaries?
Redskins – $178 mil
Buccaneers – $80 mil
Looking at it from this aspect, I’d say that if the Bucs win…Daniel Snyder will certainly feel as though the Bucs upset…his theory on paying top $$$ = top performance…but heck, if that’s what he meant, he could say that about every team the Bucs played this year….
…except maybe in Snyders case – it’s more true than with any other team.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:58 pm
If the Falcons beat us this Sunday it will be an upset.
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:41 am
Lmao- Thomas is a 2ndstring “Buc You”. That one made me spill my coffee! Guess Thomas is a town fool apprentice. Roflmao.