“We Believe We Got Enough Talent”
February 10th, 2025
Bucs GM Jason Licht.
Is it a move-all-in offseason for the Bucs?
Joe hopes so. First, that would be fun. Second, it feels like a good time given the makeup of the roster and the weak NFC South.
What really matters, though, is what Buccaneers Ring of Honor general manager Jason Licht believes and Team Glazer believe is right for the team. No slap at Todd Bowles, but head coaches always have a win-now mentality and are tough to trust when it comes to long-term thinking.
Joe thinks the mindset of players has an interesting role. When a roster collectively believes it’s close to winning it all, it’s hard on players if the front office moves don’t match their belief.
Rachaad White told something called SportsGrid last week that the team knows it’s ready to win now.
“In the building, in the locker room and the guys, how we feel about it, yes, we believe we got enough talent [to win now,]” White said. “… Rooms, stats or positions, I think we match up with a lot of people very well.”
Every Bucs player certainly knows the team beat the Super Bowl champion Eagles last season — and the Lions and Commancers.
Is Licht ready to tackle free agency and the draft like a man inches from a Super Bowl?
Joe can’t say. Ultimately, it is Licht’s job to be smart, crafty, creative and strike a balance between building short-term and long-term simultaneously. Not easy.
February 10th, 2025 at 10:24 am
Nobody is winning a superbowl with Yaya Diaby are your #1 pass rusher
February 10th, 2025 at 10:28 am
How is Myles in pass coverage?…. asking for a friend or two
February 10th, 2025 at 10:34 am
I don’t think they have to spend Tom Brady-era type money (remember Russell Gage at $10M/year for a WR3 slot receiver?) but I do think it’s time for some strategic free agent signings on defense.
I’m not onboard with a massive trade for Myles Garrett, nor a market-busting deal for Josh Sweat. Licht needs to find another Shaq Barrett; a young EDGE talent that just hasn’t been given a chance yet. Some good middle linebackers. Then draft defense defense defense.
February 10th, 2025 at 10:36 am
“How is Myles in pass coverage?…. asking for a friend or two”
He better be freaking awesome since there’ll be no draft picks left nor budget to fill in the HUGE holes behind him. Perhaps moving the Bucs up from the 7th best team in the league for sacks to 2nd or even 1st will do the trick?
February 10th, 2025 at 10:36 am
This team is a few moves from making some serious noise.
1. Pass rush – I think we gotta go buy one. Sweat, Ojulari make sense, but Mack could be interesting if he has anything left. He did have 17 sacks in 2023. Could draft Jalon Walker if he’s there – doubtful.
2. Linebacker – Campbell or Chris Paul. Get LVD back in the building.
3. Cornerback – I’m flying a jet to SF to get Charvarius Ward and I don’t let him leave One Buc Place. He’s not staying in SF after losing his kid; some sunshine will do him good. If he’s there – Morrison from Notre Dame can ball.
4. WR – if you think he’s healthy and can play – resign Godwin (I am in favor of this). If not, I’d take a look at Luther Burden III – plays out of the slot, quick as a hiccup and would fit perfectly as a complement to Evans/McMillan on the outside.
February 10th, 2025 at 10:42 am
Falcons beat the Eagles too. Panthers, Jags. Brpwns, and Saints lost by one score.
All 5 certainly could have been one and done in the Playoffs. Just as easily as the Bucs.
At 10-7 Bucs were as close to the 8-9 Falcons as the 12-5 Commanders with 3 teams in the NFC having even better records. An edge rusher may have made a difference but if anyone thinks it was the only reason Tampa wasn’t playing for the Lombardi is crazy.
As more teams adapt to stopping the Red Zone offenses played between the 20’s and containing the Jackson and Daniels types more teams including Tampa will struggle to get a Division Title yet alone an NFC Crown.
February 10th, 2025 at 10:45 am
It’s not Licht’s fault Bowles plays JTS over Braswell. At the end of the day you have to argue bad drafting or poor coaching. Bowles will be the only one to take the hit for a failed season.
February 10th, 2025 at 10:47 am
Do we remember the last Bucs SB victory. Obviously getting Brady to come was huge…required no draft picks…him bringing Gronk was also HUGE..again no draft picks and Fournette was a terrific FA signing…again no draft picks traded away..and some will wish to mention AB…not me I think they could have won anyway with ME13 and CG14 and without the absolute festering locker room boil of AB making an arse of himself on national TV.
Bottom line…Most mocks have the Bucs taking Bama ILB Jihad Campbell! That works well if he falls far enough as long as the Bucs STILL have a first round pick!
Some have the Bucs taking the East Carolina Corner..Shavon Revel JR who is 6-3 and reportedly has great “cover” skills. I realize East Carolina is not a stud school but remember Donnie Abraham? One of the great Buc DB’s from East Tennessee State!! Not a football school. I know I used to host their coaches shows.
Donnie went in the 3rd round. A dream draft for me would be Campbell in the 1st and Revel Jr in the 2nd.
February 10th, 2025 at 10:53 am
Trade for Vic Fangio and we would have a defense that could win a championship.
Obviously that not happening.
Score 34ppg and maybe get to the NFC Championship. That’s the ceiling right now.
February 10th, 2025 at 10:58 am
The best thing about being a Bucs fan in this era is the complete trust I have in Jason Licht to put this team in position for a run at the Lombardi. He’ll do what he has to do and we’ll be right in the thick of things AGAIN next season.
February 10th, 2025 at 10:59 am
StpeteBucs fan, I agree with a lot but remember they also drafted Wirfs and Winfield Jr that year. They traded 2 4th rounders which is peanuts to move up to get Wirfs and to acquire Gronk. Talk about shrewd moves. JPP for a 3rd was incredible the year prior. Leonard Floyd could be had for a mid round pick this yar.
February 10th, 2025 at 11:12 am
This NFC has turned VERY interestingly, LOADED. Now, with Jaden Daniels in Washington with a TON of cap space AND 4-MORE YEARS of having him still on his ‘rookie’ deal, they are going to be a problem for AWHILE. Philly returns like 19-STARTERS (10-offense/9-defense) from this Super Bowl team, & they have young STUDS littered across their roster. Then, you have ALL FOUR TEAMS in the North (will be interesting to see what happens with Detroit losing BOTH their stud coordinators in the same season, and with all of those injuries on defense). Green Bay is very young. Chicago has a Top-10 available cap space position, with a brand new ‘offensive genius’ at HC and a super young talented #1-Pick at QB. Minnesota is absolutely LOADED at the skilled-positions. And, you have maybe, THE TWO MOST ‘well run’ premier, ‘top of the line’ organizations in football out West, who have THE TWO BEST Coaches, in the conference. Just THANK-GOD the Bucs are in the South.
February 10th, 2025 at 11:31 am
If you got Myles Garrett you don’t drop him in coverage. Bowles got to stop with that nonsense. If you got a front of Garrett, Vea, Kancey, and Diaby you can rush with 4 and win. You can play like the Eagles did. Yesterday’s game proved what will always be true no matter what era, the trenches are the most important part of the team
February 10th, 2025 at 11:45 am
“Bowles will be the only one to take the hit for a failed season.”
And yet Todd finished 11th in the NFL Coach of the Year balloting tied with SB winner Siriani and ahead of the Ravens Harbaugh.
Apparently some thought keeping a team from folding up their tents and heading to Cancun after what appeared to be a season ending losing streak was worth a couple votes.
February 10th, 2025 at 12:00 pm
Translated, Bucs won’t be spending a dime on free agent edge rushers. You can’t take that to the bank.
February 10th, 2025 at 12:07 pm
stpetebucsfan
11th in the NFL Coach of the Year balloting Really this is what you got? That’s irrelevant to the point. If this football team had a bad season or no growth or no playoff birth it’s basic common sense to fall on the coach not the gm. So yea Bowles will be the only one to take the hit.
February 10th, 2025 at 12:09 pm
Sometimes, the business move that gets you closer to a Super Bowl isn’t the same move that contributes to establishing a long-term dynasty. And for the front office types, securing that dynasty is the one and only thing they’ll ever prioritize above a Super Bowl. I don’t envy those fellas one bit.
February 10th, 2025 at 12:19 pm
I’m in favor of going all in. We don’t have many years left of our top guys and the roster is close. Let’s get another SB for Evans and David and co.
February 10th, 2025 at 12:21 pm
“ Fan of the South” – I am more with your thinking. I am not sold on the Garrett move. I don’t believe we are in an “all-in” position yet, & would prefer building the Defense with youth. And, that is why I would much rather make the Sauce Gardner move (if he is ‘available’ and we make a move’ at all). He is just 25 years old, with 2-YEARS still left on his ‘rookie’ deal, & would be A LOT cheaper to re-sign/extend at his particular position (prob HALF)… PLUS, he would just be ENTERING his prime too, as he’s accepting his ‘second’ contract. Myles Garrett, on the other hand, will prob COST $40-MIL PER once it is time to re-sign/extend HIM, while he is reaching the backend of HIS career… PLUS, we would have to give up quite a bit more to get him. Maybe, you get Sauce with just the #19-Pick’ (and maybe a late round pick, cash considerations, and a player to be named later LoL… I think I’m ready for MLB Spring Training Haha). But, yeah… Just way too many (???? marks) for me to be going ‘all-in’ right now. And, that begins with The Head Coach. He’s just NOT in the same level, as the other ‘top-level’ coaches in the NFC right now, & it’s not even close. Just keep doing what we’re doing for now. LOTS of pressure on both, Bowles AND Baker for this upcoming season.
February 10th, 2025 at 12:39 pm
SPBF
Gronk cost us a fourth.. just sayin
February 10th, 2025 at 12:42 pm
Whatever we do we have four positions that need fixing and three of them urgently. We need an end rusher we need an inside line backer and we need to starting outside corner back.
I think Edge rusher we need to either trade for or address and free agency. I say this because unless Todd pulls changes his personnel they have shown that they have not been capable of developing a pass rusher. The only guys who ever got us 10 plus sex a season since Todd Poles came on were free agency and traded players; JPP and Shaq.
I didn’t think our top three draft picks should address the other three positions so taking the best player available at 19 whether that happens to be that inside linebacker from Alabama jihad Campbell who can also rush the passer and could be an interesting chess piece.
Perhaps gamble on the stud cornerback who was on Notre Dame who had hip surgery.
I would also like to see us get another complimentary wide receiver.
My ideal scenario would be trading Jamel Dean and a second round pick for Trey Hendrickson then using our first round pick to drive jihad Campbell and her third round pick to short up depth at wide receiver. I would try to get a corner in free agency like tavarious Ward or Reed from the Jets.
February 10th, 2025 at 12:50 pm
Myles Garrett may be the best pass rusher in the league. Maybe. He was Browns number one pick in 2017. He went to a 1 win team the previous season and turned them into a winless team his first year. 0-16. Then in 2018 Baker was the Browns number one pick. Baker led the team to 7 wins. Wonder how Garrett felt? Mayfield was all the rage in Cleveland and making a fortune with endorsements while Garrett sacked a bunch of QBs. I don’t think Garrett was there for Mayfield when he should have been. Now he’s getting old for a pass rusher while Baker is just getting to a QBs prime. I’m a firm NO on Garrett.
February 10th, 2025 at 1:39 pm
Why no mention of the need for an Edge Rusher. It literally can be said enough. Heck make It a tagline. If nothing else it would be fun watching the Bowles apologists go all apoplectic and stuff. 🙂
February 10th, 2025 at 1:39 pm
P.P.
“It’s not Licht’s fault Bowles plays JTS over Braswell. At the end of the day you have to argue bad drafting or poor coaching.”
So you’re talking about past seasons not going forward since we do not know who will even be around for Bowles to play!
But I agree your comment is specious for more than the simple Bowles bashing.
It doesn’t necessarily follow that it HAS to be either the GM’s or the Coach’s fault.
It COULD be injuries. It could be that surviving a post SB salary cap hell and the retirement of many of the major stars of that team had a serious impact!
Unless you were saying that ONE decision is what impacted the season.
Again PP, Bowles has improved every season in the REBUILDING cap hell that follows SB wins! Last night KC may have finally succumbed to that challenge.
What I am definitely saying is the powers that be and know coaching think the people here posting “fire Bowles” are out to lunch rank amateurs. That’s actually my point. Sorry if you feel I was inarticulate in expressing it.
February 10th, 2025 at 1:43 pm
Kenton
As usual agree with your observation. When I brought up that friction which was a big story in Cleveland and led the moronic Browns management to side with Garrett and release Baker some said well, they’re mature men and that will be water under the bridge? Really?
BTW don’t know if you saw but I’m curious how your golf trip to AZ went or is it still ahead?
February 10th, 2025 at 1:50 pm
Ok then, no drafting guys with “potential” or “upside”. Draft guys who are ready to play right now. We need instant contributors not developmental guys. Trade or package the later picks to move up, even if just a little, or trade for guys who can make it happen now.
February 10th, 2025 at 1:52 pm
Licht has proven again and again he lacks foresight and roster building skills to field a contender. Without Brady he’s likely fired, as if there is no Brady there is no Gronk, no AB and No Lenny and no Lombardi
In 2020 he showed this badly when he failed to add depth on the OL, or secondary and decided to just run it back. While it didn’t impact the #2 seed Bucs too badly in the regular season it hurt the team in the long run and in the playoffs.
Bucs have so many holes on a bad defense, bad bad bad pass defense
where the head coach has NO answers on how to fix it
February 10th, 2025 at 2:03 pm
Sounds like a bunch of complaining know it alls in here.
February 10th, 2025 at 2:26 pm
Mahomes cap hit didn’t cost kc the super bowl yesterday but it will next year.
Baker allows us to pay our other players.
After Evans bonu were due a major fa signing imo
The time is now, Laporte and Evans don’t get forever
February 10th, 2025 at 2:33 pm
We need to hit on all our draft picks. Not likely but to compete for the SB they’ll need impact players coming in at those critical positions.
(Edge/ILB/Corner)
February 10th, 2025 at 2:35 pm
Thanks for asking stpetebucsfan! 4 “boys” from Ok, Colorado, and Illinois met last Monday and and we played golf Tuesday and Wednesday and Thursday all at different clubs on desert courses in Scottsdale Arizona. The weather was perfect. Yeah, time marches on and for the first time we played from the senior tees. And I know we spent more time in the hot tub after rounds than we ever have. We’re thinking next year about our golf outing heading to Florida! I’ve been down there before but never for a golf trip. But for now me and my friends are bracing for winter storms this week. Oh well, the days are getting longer and Spring is right around the corner!!
February 10th, 2025 at 2:41 pm
The secondary was a mash unit all year. Licht blew it last year by not grabbing Cooper Dejean in the second round. I believe we picked before Philly who got a steal on Dejean. He does 2 jobs at a high level. In the Superbowl he read Mahomes eyes and jumped the pass. Then he went into punt return mode and ran it in using intelligence and speed for a TD. Will be a perennial pro bowler
February 10th, 2025 at 2:43 pm
“We got enough talent” I agree on offense. Certainly NOT the defense.
Maybe on defense IF:
Dean plays every game.
AW3 is healthy all year.
LVD stays another year.
We combine all the ILB’s into a mythical creature.
Our edge players don’t drop back in coverage
Whitehead finds his lost form…
February 10th, 2025 at 2:54 pm
They were having the WM Open last week and if you saw any of that that course looked just like the courses we were playing. If you faded it (sliced or blocked it) too much or drew it (hooked or pulled it) too much you were in what they called “waste areas). Pure desert-cactus, succulents and dry brush. The 4 of us started playing baseball and football when we were about 8 years old and it’s funny that the competitive nature we all had back then hasn’t waned in the least! I don’t reckon I could be any luckier.
February 10th, 2025 at 3:06 pm
Quality HC is a crucial need Which the Bucs have none…
I do hope when the Bucs finally get some wisdom and get a quality HC that they will still have ‘enough talent ‘ that is not gotten to old or avoided the Bucs for quality coached team!
February 10th, 2025 at 3:27 pm
The mighty NFC North was supposedly the best division in the NFL. We went 3-1 against them in 2023 and 1-0 in 2024. They were 0-3 in the playoffs this year. Don’t believe everything you read.
KC a team that struggled throughout the season with many one score wins. AFC West terrible in the playoffs other than KC. Why was KC favored over an Eagles team that had won 12 games in a row? Because the public is ignorant of a team’s true ability. How was KC ever going to have time to throw?
February 10th, 2025 at 4:08 pm
Anybody watching the Eagles in the first half yesterday grasp the understands there is nothing more important than sustained pressure on the QB. Mahomes looked completely rattled. He was hurrying his throws and spending a lot of time either on his back or scrambling to stay upright. The Eagles did most of it with a 4 man front.
Garrett and or TJ Watt will make the back end of Bucs defense look better even though there is a lot of marginal talent back there. Specifically, Dean and Whitehead are marginal players. Have said it before that there is nothing in this draft that would have the immediate overall impact of Garrett or Watt.
February 10th, 2025 at 4:33 pm
Rachaad White … ‘In the building, in the locker room and the guys, how we feel about it, yes, we believe we got enough talent [to win now]’.
Oh wow Rachaad, did you even watch the Bucs’ defense while you were sitting on the bench? They regressed in 2024 because … they lack starting talent in more than 1 area. They lacked depth too.
And Joe, seems a tad misleading to have Jason Licht’s photo under the article title … “We Believe We Got Enough Talent”. I assumed (erroneously?) that JL had made that comment.
While edge rusher is a need (can never have enough), that’s not our #1 NEED. Bucs must fix our ILB position group first and foremost. KJ Britt is a UFA but he’s not starter-quality IMO; I’d pass on re-signing him. LVD is also a UFA & may choose to retire; we NEED to plan for that possibility. SirVocea Dennis is hurt too much for my liking; availability counts. JJ Russell has been given multiple opportunities to shine, but constantly comes up short. We’ve got 3 other LBs under contract (Grier, Jones, Jennings) who represent adequate Practice Squad talent.
Bucs NEED to draft a starter-quality ILB to replace Britt (and that needs to be either a Rnd 1 or Rnd 2 pick). We should also sign a veteran ILB to give us depth or to push the youngster for a starting gig. And if there’s another starter-capable ILB available in the draft with talent similar to LVDs, I’d say draft him too.
NEED #2 though is outside CB (we’ve got enough guys who can play Nickel). We’re paper-thin at the CB position and we need to stop pretending that guys like Thunderstruck & Hayes are adequate fill-ins when starters go down.
February 10th, 2025 at 4:45 pm
It’s White saying this, not Licht or Bowles. Those two clearly know there are holes to fill. Rachaad should concentrate on his game. Leave personnel to the GM. There’s at least 6 holes on defense and a couple on offense to upgrade. They would have been playing Sunday if they had the talent.
February 10th, 2025 at 5:02 pm
Bucs are gonna have to come up with some cash in free agency to get us an experienced DE to fire up this D line we got. I would not draft a DE at 19. But our Pass rush must be addressed.
February 10th, 2025 at 5:04 pm
Kenton
Come on down. I used to play golf but grew too frustrated! LMAO One ball in the woods too many. And golf is a unique sport. The harder you try the worse you play! Swimming and lifting weights reward that effort.
We have a lot of great courses around the state but Tampa Bay/St. Pete/Clearwater are LOADED with great courses.
I used to be a member at the Vinoy, Stay there for a couple of nights and play the same course as Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig. Since it’s such an old course they really struggled to find enough length so it’s not horribly long although the back tees have some long carries over water.
Bottom line it rewards accuracy not power!! I could hit it long enough but one bad swing there and it’s triple bogey time. I struggled to get my handicap to 18 with the occasional round in the 80’s. It’s an incredibly scenic course. Used to have otters on one hole and I’ve stood waiting to putt on one hole with an Osprey (I think) flying right overhead with a fish in it’s talons.
February 10th, 2025 at 5:07 pm
D.R.
As always love your analysis and agree with the needs.
I’d like the Bucs to get Jihad in the first for ILB and the East Carolina kid in the 2nd for a cover corner. Don’t know either of them will be on the board.
That’s called playing the chalk and going for the “favorites” Somewhere in the draft though there must be a steal or two at the positions you describe.
After seeing Bucky a 4th rounder and realizing Donnie Abraham was a 3rd rounder I’m hoping the Bucs get some “Luck of the Irish”.
February 10th, 2025 at 5:08 pm
Tbbucs3 says well that is a stupid remark the Eagles last nite & the bucs SB win had no pass rushers they rushed 4 lineman & stuck it to them
February 10th, 2025 at 5:09 pm
Going ‘all in’ financially – right now – would be a BAD move.
The Bucs are 1 season away from operating somewhat normally moving forward. Just 1 more year of big ($50M+) dead cap hits.
Act responsibly this year, and Jason will actually have some $ to spend in free agency in 2026 and thereafter. Going ‘all in’ now means NO money to spend in free agency for the next 5 years – and also means having to cut players or ‘re-work’ big contracts every year in the foreseeable future just to get under the mandatory salary cap # in early march… (See New Orleans for reference)
What Joseph is suggesting means pushing an additional $80-100M in debt down the road – on top of the $160M+ in debt that the Bucs already have on the books over the next 4 years.
Don’t do it Jason! Stay the course – pay off the last big chunk of the Brady years debt in 2025 – don’t add a bunch more debt this year – and keep drafting well. Doing this will set this team up to be successful and highly competitive for the remainder of the 2020s.
OR – Blow up the debt again in a probably futile attempt to go ‘all in’ for 2025 – and pay the price of perpetual ‘cap hell’ for the next 4-5 years…..
February 10th, 2025 at 5:17 pm
LOL at the “Thunderstruck” moniker D.R.
The Bucs seem to think Funderburk has what it takes to be a CB in this league – hopefully over the next couple years he will continue to improve and come to represent some quality depth for cheap in the CB room. To my eye – Josh Hayes won’t get there and you really don’t want him on the field outside of being a good ST player….
February 10th, 2025 at 5:30 pm
Doesn’t YaYa Diaby career path seem as favorable as Josh Sweat. Both 4th rounders right. Both showed promise early in their career without being really elite.
Or how about Brandon Graham. I think Philly’s outside guys really have not been elite. Their depth inside is more their key. I think something Bowles wants.
February 10th, 2025 at 6:03 pm
Get Jack Sawyer in the draft
February 10th, 2025 at 6:43 pm
Tbbucs3 Says:
Nobody is winning a superbowl with Yaya Diaby are your #1 pass rusher.
^^^^^^^
Yaya was #5 in sacks.
CK was the leading pass rusher. CK would have recorded 11-12 had he played the entire season.
That said, I get your point.
February 10th, 2025 at 8:09 pm
StPete … ‘I’d like the Bucs to get Jihad in the first for ILB and the East Carolina kid in the 2nd for a cover corner. Don’t know either of them will be on the board.’
And there-in lies the problem: By the time we pick, much of the top talent will have been picked over. Three exceptions seem to be ILB, TE and RB (teams don’t seem to like to pick them in Rnd 1). So when we pick (at #19 I think), there’s an excellent chance that we can grab a top ILB or CB (I’d prefer we draft the CB first IF there was one there we truly fell in love with), then grab the ILB in Rnd 2.
February 10th, 2025 at 8:10 pm
We do not have enough talent on D – have not all season. Miles Garret, Hendrickson are not the answer. We are far from one player away making guys like them non-starters
I’d hate for LVD to retire – my favorite Buc since he was drafted – But he clearly lost a step last season. So….
– ILB is a significant hole [2].
– Edge. [2] Draft one, sign an impact FA. Resign Nelson as depth.
– Whitehead was a major disappointment, add safety[1].
– Dean looks finished, injury prone, end of second contract, add CB [1]
That’s six guys. But that’s a tall order for Jason and his guys.
February 10th, 2025 at 8:29 pm
Watching the SB, and knowing how this Bucs team owns the Eagles, it’s hard to believe the Bucs don’t have enough talent to win – even though they are paper thin at nearly every position on defense.
While I don’t see it happening, if the Bucs were to go and give up two firsts, or whatever it takes to get Garrett, that might be the move to make as who knows how long this window stays open. Garrett will turn 30 during the season, and it’s a high price to pay, but if you think you got a shot, take it now and figure out the rest later.
For those complaining about the picks, in value you’re basically giving up JTS and Logan Hall and maybe a 3rd – there is no one here that wouldn’t give that up for Garrett. With that said, I’m going to guess someone else will give up better picks (maybe the same round but higher) so I don’t see it happening, but it’s worth getting in on.
February 10th, 2025 at 11:51 pm
not good enough on defense
February 11th, 2025 at 5:28 am
Get over the Myles Garrett dreaming. He split the locker room in CLE between himself and Mayfield when he tried fracturing Rudolph’s skull with a helmet. When Baker got ran out of CLE and booted in the ass by “rumors he was immature” there was dead silence from Garrett. If they ask Baker’s opinion it’s going to be a resounding NO WAY
February 11th, 2025 at 7:22 am
“remember Donnie Abraham” Yes StPete! He always has been one of my favorite Bucs.