“It Sped Up The Entire Cycle'”
January 20th, 2025
“This doesn’t look like my year, Bake.”
So ESPN NFL super insider Adam Schefter was on TV yesterday talking about a changed landscape in the world of head coach openings.
Bucs fans are paying attention, worried about losing one of their own.
Tampa Bay offensive coordinator Liam Coen was interviewed by Jacksonville for their head coach opening, among many other candidates, and it’s assumed that he was impressive. And some anonmous reports say Coen was.
Schefter reported yesterday that the loss of the Lions to the Commanders on Sunday night was unexpected by NFL owners seeking a new head coach. So Lions playcaller Ben Johnson and defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn, with newfound freedom to interview without restriction, have “sped up the entire cycle” of head coach hiring, per Schefter.
Glenn and Johnson are both potential Jaguars hires, Schefter said, noting Johnson is deciding between the Bears, Raiders and Jaguars.
It’s not sounding great for Coen leaving Tampa, though it certainly remains possibility.
(Schefter’s video report is below).
A spin on the coaching carousel: pic.twitter.com/wZfkR53tnq
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 19, 2025
January 20th, 2025 at 9:37 am
Maybe Jacksonville would like Todd Bowles to be their HC? No compensation necessary.
January 20th, 2025 at 9:41 am
Bring back Coen and pay him HC salary to be OC. If that’s more than what Bowles is getting, give Bowles a raise so he makes $1 more than Coen.
January 20th, 2025 at 9:44 am
Offensive HC Defensive HC start a new trend
January 20th, 2025 at 9:51 am
Wow, man to much hate on Bowles. Yes the D needs help bigtime. However, when you listen to LIght, you get the impression, they knew the defense had issues. I believe he said, we knew we had pieces on the defense to fill and expected it to take some time. Yes, agree the defensive scheme has issues. However, Bowles has not had much to work with either. I think Light and the Bucs were expecting more on the rebuilding side. However, due to a great draft, I think even they were surprized how competitive the Bucs were this year. In short I think the Organzation has a plan and like it or not that includes Bowles.
Yes while being selfish let’s hope Coen staye at least another year. We know Bowles is , that is not changing in the near future.
January 20th, 2025 at 9:52 am
Notice how teams are interested in Coen, but not one coach from Todd’s defensive staff. You would think a defensive guru like Todd would have teams looking to hire at least one of his assts for a D.C. job? No team wants one of our co DCs to become their D.C.? Very telling. I guess when you consider it takes two of Todd’s stooges to do the work of one real D.C., why would any team want them to lead their defense? Both have been in this system for five years, and neither is capable of taking the reins. Not a good look for Todd, and his assstants.
January 20th, 2025 at 9:53 am
I’d sure like to keep Coen at least one more year.
He did a great job in year one.
January 20th, 2025 at 9:58 am
I noticed that too, Hodad. They’re after our front office and offense leaders. Not so much defense
January 20th, 2025 at 9:59 am
Let’s trade Bowles to the Jaguars for a stack of Arby’s coupons.
January 20th, 2025 at 10:06 am
Pffffft lets give Bowles and a stack of Arby’s coupons and some of the big, uglies on the cheerleading squad to the Jaguars.
January 20th, 2025 at 11:16 am
Hodad and Fred for the win!!! Way to go guys! Figure out a way to insult Bowles even if you have to back door it through assistant coaches!
So BOWLes figures out how to replace TWO OC’s but he gets NO credit. He does such a great job that both are instantly HC candidates with the first getting a job.
But don’t give CREDIT for that when you can satisfy that 80% of NEGATIVE thinking that most of us have! Yep the fact that the few HC jobs open haven’t been filled by one of Todd’s D guys must meant that Todd sucks eh?
Could it be that since BOWLes is his own DC the assistants haven’t been considered? There is NO DC to interview!!! Why haven’t they interviewed any Offensive assistants, run coordinators etc. Is that a reflection on Coen or BOWLes?
January 20th, 2025 at 11:31 am
Not a big deal if Coen leaves. We have plenty of over qualified JBF posters here who would surely take a demotion to be the OC of the Bucs!
January 20th, 2025 at 11:34 am
The scenarios in order from best to worst are:
1. Both Coen and Bowles stay
2. Bowles gone Coen HC
3. Both gone
4. Coen gone and Bowles stays.
January 20th, 2025 at 11:45 am
Oh please. Oh please. Oh please. Do not let Coen leave.
January 20th, 2025 at 12:04 pm
Why isn’t Casey Rogers getting any considerations for…..never mind.
January 20th, 2025 at 12:11 pm
First of all….
One of the reasons Buccaneer defensive assistants are not being interviewed is that the NFL has become an offensive game. Most owners/GMs now want an offensive genius to get their team to the next level. Truth be told, the loss to the Commanders was *everyone’s* fault; from the coaches to the players (*every* coach and *every* player). A close loss with that many brain-farts cannot be pinned on any one person.
I believe Coach Bowles is a ‘good’ coach, not (yet) a great coach (and might never get to that pinnacle), but Coach Coen is a total unknown as a head coach. For that matter, he has a very small sample size for an OC.
Licht has shown the ability to bring in impact players even when the salary cap is tight, so I don’t really see the window closing any time soon. I think we should give Coach Bowles *one* more year to see if we have an Arians or a Dungy.
January 20th, 2025 at 12:24 pm
The irony of calling for Bowles to be fired on a post talking about Aaron Glenn, a head coaching candidate whose defense was SPANKED by the Commanders, is hilarious.
January 20th, 2025 at 12:59 pm
No one wants Buc defensive coaches because they’ve done a poor job in Tampa. Yes St. Pete it is a slight on Bowles. For a defensive genius who’s been in the league for years with the same assistants not one has gone on to do anything. Great, let him take credit for Coen, and Canalas. To bad he can’t find a coach who knows how to fix the 31 st ranked defense in the league.
January 20th, 2025 at 2:06 pm
Other than the soft zone that continually grants 7 yard receptions all the way down the field, my only other beef with is defense is depending in linebackers to cover speedy receivers. Most of edge rushers in the league seemed to average about 5% of plays in coverage, OURS were 20%, and they allowed nearly a 100% completion rate. I can’t grasp him continually doing something that doesn’t work
January 20th, 2025 at 2:06 pm
@stpete
Like I’ve said before, an article on Joe’s favorite apple pie recipe would be turned into a yea but Todd sucks thread by the obsessive compulsive bigots around here.
No matter the topic or subject, just fling poop in Todd’s direction. 🙄
January 20th, 2025 at 2:08 pm
Need Coen to stay. Can’t change OCs every frickin year and expect the offense to keep clicking. Give him a big raise.
January 20th, 2025 at 3:06 pm
@Hawk
You better be careful with that spot on comment. It’s all true but as Jack Nicholson famously screamed in “A Few Good Men”…changing one word
“They can’t handle the truth!”
January 20th, 2025 at 3:10 pm
Hopefully Glenn goes to the Jags & Johnson to the Raiders
January 20th, 2025 at 4:00 pm
As much as I hate agreeing with the Joes on most things, I do now have to agree that we looked better than the Lions vs the Redskins.
Take the ill timed fumble back and not be such a Swiss cheese like defense and we easily win that game.
Doesn’t change the fact that we lost yet again in prime time. But we gave the hottest team in the playoffs their best fight so far.
I’m still in favor of firing Bowles as soon as we can. That opinion will not change.
It’s a shame to waste another opportunity with the talent we do have.
January 20th, 2025 at 4:45 pm
So Joe’s article is about the changing landscape in the world of HC openings, and somehow our position coaches got roasted because no other team wanted to interview them for their HC vacancy. Gee, I wonder if that’s because they’re Position Coaches and not Coordinators?
Bucs’ position coaches have almost all been here between 3-6 years. Several came here with Todd Bowles when he was hired to be BA’s defensive coordinator back in 2019.
o Kacy Rodgers (6 years) … Run game coordinator/DLine
o Larry Foote (6 years)… Pass game coordinator/ILBs
o George Edwards (2 years) … OLB coach
o Nick Rapone (6 years) … Safeties coach
o Kevin Ross (6 years) … Cornerbacks coach
o Tim Atkins (6 years) … Assistant Secondary coach
o Rashad Johnson (3 years) … Assistant Secondary coach
o Keith Tandy (5 years) … Defensive/Special Teams assistant
o Joey Fitzgerald (3 years) … Defensive Quality Control Coach
Looking at the defensive results over 3-6 years, I’d say that these position coaches have a pretty good handle on how to coach Todd Bowles hybrid 3-4 defense. In the 5 years from 2020-2024, they’ve won 51 & lost 33 games (60.7%), plus winning 6 & losing 4 playoff games. And oh ya, winning a Super Bowl plus 4 NFC South championships.
Personally have no issue with the position coaches. I do feel however that we desperately need to improve the defensive roster, need to hire a defensive coordinator, and very likely transition back to the 4-3 (we’re relying too heavily on blitzing IMO, and that’s hurting our pass defense).
January 20th, 2025 at 5:49 pm
If they go to a 4-3 DR, can see them re-signing KJ as a SAM
JJ at Mike & LD/ Sir ‘Glass’ e-a at Will without any additions. Jones should stick too
January 20th, 2025 at 10:06 pm
Why would we give credit to Bowles for hiring an OC? He isn’t doing the hiring. Isn’t that our GM and scouting department? Bowles has no clue on either side of the ball these days. I’m not here to talk bad on Bowles but really? He isn’t hiring these guys. Your a fool if you think otherwise.