“Zero Percent Chance They Do What They Did Last Year”
January 16th, 2025
Predicament.
For those hellbent on running Todd Bowles out of town, you may want to skip this next paragraph.
Joe is bringing the following to readers with zero dog in the fight. Or cat. Or mouse. Or hamster. Or any other four-legged furry creature. What Joe has heard both in and outside of One Buc Palace is that Todd Bowles will be the 2025 Bucs head coach. If Joe heard differently, Joe would have different intel for you.
Over at Yahoo!, long-time football writer and podcaster Matt Harmon doesn’t know if Bowles should stay or go.
What Harmon does know is that if the Bucs want to make more postseason appearances and runs at a Super Bowl, then the Bucs cannot allow savvy offensive coordinator Liam Coen to escape.
Harmon foresees disaster if Coen gets away and the Bucs will rue the day for years to come.
“And let me say this: There is a zero percent chance they do what they did last year which is have to wave goodbye to their playcaller and then upgrade, which is what they did, right?” Harmon said. “[Dave] Canales goes to coach the Panthers and they bring in [Liam] Coen. … “
To stop the merry-go-round of offensive coordinators and keep the Bucs on an upward trajectory, Harmon said the Bucs must do whatever it takes to keep Coen.
“I just think there is no chance they can let him out of the building,” Harmon said.
Still, Harmon says it is distasteful if not irresponsible for folks to have the kneejerk reaction to can Bowles in order to keep Coen. Harmon added he has no clue if Coen will ever be as good of a head coach as Bowles.
“It is easy for me to sit here in my stupid office with no consequences to say, ‘Well, just fire Todd Bowles and promote Liam Coen,” Harmon said. “I have no idea if Liam Coen is going to be a good head coach!
“Maybe he is going to go out there and eff up timeouts and game management just like Todd Bowles does! I have no idea. That is a complete unknown to me.
“I don’t know, 96 maybe 97 percent of people doing podcasts also have no idea.”
If Bucs fans, in March of 2022, would have been told the team would win the division the next three seasons, and that in 2023 and 2024 the team not only would improve its regular season record each season but would also have a new franchise quarterback with a stellar offense, not one fan would have complained.
Well, Bowles has delivered that. And for that, some want his head on a platter.
In a perfect world, Team Glazer would match or exceed whatever salary Coen might get from another team to be a head coach, and when Bowles retires, Coen is in position to take over.
Get that taken care of so the Bucs can put their complete and total focus on fixing their terribly porous pass defense.
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have to make sure Liam Coen doesn't get out of the building during this coach hiring cycle. pic.twitter.com/E2jgLMb0kQ
— Matt Harmon (@MattHarmon_BYB) January 15, 2025
January 16th, 2025 at 7:05 am
Agreed
January 16th, 2025 at 7:25 am
Let’s compromise and just insist on a new defensive coordinator. We can see how that goes and make a determination on his Head coaching ability next season
January 16th, 2025 at 7:26 am
I am soooo exasperated by this passing defense. The frustrating part is that we have some great players on defense, better players than most teams, but we have already had a horrible passing defense. The outcomes of games are predictable. The only hope we have is that Baker is having a good day, something he doesn’t have much in the 4th quarter of postseason games.
January 16th, 2025 at 7:37 am
I’m not worried. Bowles assigned JTS to tackle him if he tries to leave.
January 16th, 2025 at 7:38 am
Put me in the “hell bent” crowd. Coach Bowles is average at best. His coaching record with the Jets and Bucs says so. I’d rather not be average again in 2025. He will not hire a DC. His ego won’t allow it.
January 16th, 2025 at 7:40 am
My prediction is Cohen is going to get hired elsewhere this month. He will be another Sean McVay. He will be good HC for like the next 10 years for a team maybe Jags. Bucs will have another similar season to this one. Bowles will get exited by Glazers in January 2026. And us fans will be severely regretting letting Cohen leave for years to come like Harmon says in this article. I would love for the Bucs for once in my lifetime that the Bucs be a team like Chiefs, Pats, Niners., Cowboys thats super good and in Super Bowls multiple times over a 10 plus year period! Why can’t we be one of those teams ever!? Go Bucs
January 16th, 2025 at 7:41 am
Best point of the article was the reference to the Bucs pass defense. It is completely unacceptable. It’s all Bowles. What’s gonna change? We need Edge rushers and better secondary cover corners. Until then, this team ain’t going anywhere no matter how good the Offense is.
January 16th, 2025 at 7:56 am
“Maybe he is going to go out there and eff up timeouts and game management just like Todd Bowles does! I have no idea. That is a complete unknown to me.
^^^^^^^^^
Quite the ringing endorsement for Bowles, huh? If Coen learned from McVay, he’ll probably be good.
January 16th, 2025 at 7:57 am
I’m on the side of letting them finish the rebuild process. Worked on the offense this year and that went well. Work on the defense all offseason and let’s see how that goes. We are short leadership on that side of the ball. Hopefully Winfield will get back healthy. Very disappointed in Whitehead though. Thought he would be much better than he was. I guess there are always good reasons why teams let players walk.
January 16th, 2025 at 7:58 am
Every game, shoot, darn near every play has been Groundhog Day with this defense. Gotta keep our OC.
January 16th, 2025 at 8:02 am
Cohen got us to a top 5 rushing attack. Are we top 5 in anything on defense?
January 16th, 2025 at 8:04 am
We need to keep Coen!
January 16th, 2025 at 8:18 am
Maybe he is not on thin ice but there is a pair of ice skates on his door step.
I am frustrated with some of Bowles but understand that he still has the locker room and that is a big plus with any team especially one that gets into the playoffs, although I don’t consider Wildcard as playoffs.
Injuries concentrated in the back half of the defense virtually all year has to be factored.
The overall stability has to be factored , Bowles has had to deal with finding a new starting QB along with new OC’s .
Keeping Liam Coen is the BIGGEST item on the offseason plate.
Simply CANNOT gamble with inserting a new OC for the comfort of continuity when the players return next summer
There you go folks my full load of .02 cents
January 16th, 2025 at 8:23 am
I didn’t realize the defense was in a rebuild mode? I thought the offensive side should have suffered most from losing gronk, Brady, AB and Lenny. Not to mention Ali Marpet retiring. Damn I didn’t realize it was the defense in full rebuild mode instead. Bucs were scoring almost 30 points a game again so the defense looked good I guess during that Super Bowl run.
January 16th, 2025 at 8:24 am
Defense. Fix the defense. Go Bowles
January 16th, 2025 at 8:25 am
Bucs just need a new defensive scheme and a Head Coach who understands clock management and when to go for it and when not to go for it.
If Detroit with their depleted defense hold Washington to under 20 points and force more than one punt it’s a HUGE indictment on Bowles and how bad he is.
January 16th, 2025 at 8:34 am
Of course, all fans would be happy if they were told of the Bucs winning 3 straight
division titles prior to it happening. But, if we were also told that the thing holding us back would be Bowles’ horrible defense we would want to figure out how to fix it. And now, with the benefit of hindsight, we can see that Bowles needs a DC. So FIX it!!!
January 16th, 2025 at 8:34 am
How are season ticket sales going? Perhaps that is the only thing that will get the Glazier’s attention.
January 16th, 2025 at 8:44 am
DO whatever you have to do COach Bowles, you took the Bucs severeal times tp playoffs, with lot of adversities, injuries, lack of depth on roster, changing QB´s, bioplar fan base against you, changing OC, Salary cap complications, and here we are…..
I am proud of our Head Coach, and I hope you get a new contract…..
Don´t listen to people whoi think is super bowl champions or you get fired, they have no clue what they are talking about!!!
IN BOWLES I TRUST!!!!
January 16th, 2025 at 8:50 am
For the love of God joe enough bragging about the division titles in the worst division in football. You sound like Saints fans we made fun of in the 2010’s for doing the same damn thing.
January 16th, 2025 at 8:50 am
Okay, awesome. Let’s say he doesn’t have to go; we’ll assume the risk he costs us a Super Bowl by panicking and calling a bad timeout/mismanaging simple play clock stuff. Why, *WHY* can we not have a dedicated Defensive Coordinator with their own staff? Why??? Bring someone in to restructure this god-awful defensive scheme. There’s no way that under Arians, all the same players thrived, and under Bowles, those same superstars are headed to waiver wires??? Does that even make sense? Antoine Winfield played mediocre. I was shocked. Regressed. Anyone would play bad, if asked to cover a 20 yard box without help. Not once did I see true press coverage. Everything looked like a permanent prevent defense with our best big rushers dropping into coverage. Vita Vea, nickel corner. Simple stuff Joe. Bowles needs to go if he’s still tapping to the same Byron Leftwich tune. He’s tone deaf. 💯
January 16th, 2025 at 8:52 am
I swear some of you fans, wake up with a dark cloud over your head.
The Glazier boys will not allow Coen to leave.
January 16th, 2025 at 8:52 am
Maybe hire the first woman OC.
January 16th, 2025 at 8:53 am
MarkV, that’s what I’ve been preaching bro. Turn the DC responsibilities over to some young innovative mind. Let Bowles concentrate on being a HC. He can still help with game planning, but let someone else call the defensive plays.
January 16th, 2025 at 8:54 am
If the Bucs finish in the bottom 10 of passing defenses again, Bowles should be gone!
January 16th, 2025 at 9:03 am
The personnel on defense is irrelevant.
Every spot could be a hall of fame player and it wouldn’t matter.
The coaching philosophy is so bad that it leaks into the offense.
Coen will get out from under the yoke of Bowles and his bumblings.
If the defense is horrible two years in a row and a defensive guru is the HC, what do you do to fix it???
Gee that’s a mystery……
January 16th, 2025 at 9:07 am
It’s a real conundrum. We tried this with Koetter and he turned out to be a much better OC than HC. There is no reason for us to think Coen could be a good HC. There’s a million examples of good coordinators being terrible HC’s
January 16th, 2025 at 9:07 am
Classic!
January 16th, 2025 at 9:12 am
“”IN BOWLES I TRUST!!!!””
You and about 4 other posters in here.
January 16th, 2025 at 9:14 am
PSL Bob
If the Bucs finish in the bottom 10 of passing defenses again, Bowles should be gone!
Sorry but Bowles is firmly entrenched in that bottom 10 passing defense range ALWAYS and easy to look it up even with Shaq getting 19.5 for those who want to give up draft picks and throw big dollars at free agent pass rushers.
January 16th, 2025 at 9:19 am
All through the 2023 season Joe was pounding the table for Canales to open up the offense with the weapons he had available. He stuck to his guns and allowed how a Joe likes to put it ‘a play away from a Conference Championship Game’.
Coen did open it up and also got a tick up on the running game through another year of the O Line playing together with an insertion of additional talent. Bucs Offense ran full throttle.
Perhaps if Coen had stuck to what got them there and stayed with the 55/45 pass run formula and not flip flopped the mix to 45/55 the Bucs might still be planning for a game and not a vacation.
2024 Bucs team as a whole got better on Offense and Coen just allowed them to push the pedal a little farther to the floor.
Canales went to the worse team in the league and in his first season got the Panthers Offense producing at the Bucs 2023 level in yards and points.
Coen’s success after Canales can be compared to Grudens after Dungy. Walked into a windfall.
Could Coen go to a 2-12 team and move them to 5-12 with a few plays from being a 7 or 8 win team? I don’t think so and Joe should get his wish and have Coen back for at least another season.
Got a feeling that NFCS/2025-2026 will be a race to the top and not a Division to watch which team sinks to the bottom.
January 16th, 2025 at 9:26 am
We want Bowles fired and his supporters are ready for war. Just imagine how dumb it sounds to say the team that won the division lacks talent. If calling the division weak can’t be an excuse or the fact that they are all have new coaches or an interim and weak rosters outside due to salary cap (saints) or raising up for a qb(panthers) who sold off as much talent as they could to compensate.
How it is the team with 5 straight division titles and a Super Bowl possibly the team with the worst secondary in the division. Really you mean Licht doesn’t have more secondary talent than panthers or saints?
January 16th, 2025 at 9:32 am
I just can’t wrap my head around the Bowles>Coen camp. You’ve got a bad defence and a great offence and your answer is to keep the guy responsible for the bad defence and let the guy with the good offence walk away.
If Coen is happy to stay as OC for another year then great, let Bowles have one last chance to prove himself and if he doesn’t produce a top 10 defensive unit then kick him to the curb but if Coen wants to be a HC next year and is willing to go to another team you just can’t choose Bowles over Coen.
The Bowles>Coen camp keep saying “Bowles has won 3 division titles in a row!!!” Like it wasn’t, by far, the worst back to back to back division titles in the history of the league.
January 16th, 2025 at 9:39 am
The Coenheads are out in force today!
January 16th, 2025 at 9:42 am
When I was in business I had a mentor on my board with massive successful corporate experience. He taught me that the time to make a change in personnel is when you are more than 50% convinced a person could be replaced by someone substantially more capable.
That was advice that served me well for decades.
Applying that same metric, I don’t see a compelling reason to replace Bowles. I am not much of a Bowles fan and I see plenty to criticize. I just don’t see a viable upgrade right now.
However, had the D been healthy all season I would prolly think differently. It is hard to play pass D with a bunch of PS mooks and nobodies.
I give credit for some decent success in what was supposed to be a post-Brady rebuild.
January 16th, 2025 at 9:43 am
This team is a solid D draft away from a deep run…if the Glazers can keep Coen.
January 16th, 2025 at 9:47 am
It’s a weird situation.
Best case is Liam stays another year and Bowles fixes the D and we are a contender. If Bowles can’t fix the D then move on and go with Liam.
Speaking from a talent perspective, the defense seems to be about average while the offense has above level or elite level talent at almost every position.
Defense finished 16th in points allowed (22.7)
Offense finished 4th (29.5)
It’s not like the defense in total really under-achived. It’s more so their inability to win a game or make a play in key moments, outside of the 2 4th down stops in the playoff game. They actually did make the key plays in that game but that fumble just wrecked our lives man lol. That drive was going to be our game winning drive. Just felt meant to be. Great play call too just can’t screw that up.
January 16th, 2025 at 9:54 am
If your goal is to win 8-10 games a year yeah keep Bowles. He isn’t a SB HC. Idk how people can’t see that.
January 16th, 2025 at 10:01 am
If I hear one more comment about Baker in the 4th quarter I’m going to lose my mind. Did they f****** on a fumble with the rookie wide receiver yeah, but he also completed 10 straight passes up until that bad snap by Barton. There’s no doubt they would have scored a touchdown if not for that. He’s had the best fourth quarter rating in the NFL this year 117.8 and he had the third best last year so stop with your 4th quarter b******* comments. Also currently has the highest quarterback rating 105.9 in the history of the NFL in the playoffs.
January 16th, 2025 at 10:04 am
Well, Bowles has delivered that. And for that, some want his head on a platter.
I would argue that Jason Licht has delivered the SB and div championships with the roster him and his staff has built. All around the league I see teams with GMs who have not come close to building a sustained winner but I see many coaches who can do the job Bowles does if not better.
January 16th, 2025 at 10:18 am
For those who accept that Todd Bowles is staying the consensus seems to be (1) retain Coen and (2) get a new defensive coordinator. That would be quite the challenge for Jason Licht to manage!
January 16th, 2025 at 10:29 am
The Bucs have a similar set up to the Eagles. In the media and “NFL circle” talk… all you hear is praise for Howie Roseman and the OL and DL and offense he has built. Then he strongly addressed the secondary this season with Mitchell and Dejean in the draft.
You think people in Philly are heaping all the praise on Nick Sirianni for that? No, they under achieved end of last season and he nearly got canned. Only difference is Bowles loses 5 of 6 in the middle of the season and gets the Panthers at the end to save himself.
Yet for some reason people wanna credit Bowles for this team? I’m not saying our roster is better than the Eagles but it’s not far off, been built the same way and after our D weaknesses are addressed this offseason …. Bowles better match Sirianni with 13-14 wins.
January 16th, 2025 at 10:38 am
It’s interesting that Joe seems to emphasize PASS defense (as opposed to RUN defense or OVERALL defense) in most of what he writes about our defense. It’s also interesting that roughly two-thirds of JBFers appear to go along with that & want Todd Bowles head on a platter.
Guess what, Todd Bowles has always had a bad pass defense … even in 2020 & 2021 when we kicked a$$. Focus on the big picture instead and look at our rankings in RUN defense, PASS defense, OVERALL defense (scoring) & PPG Allowed, THEN draw your conclusions.
2019 (7-9): Run (#1)- Pass (#30)- Overall (#29)- PPG (28.1)
2020 (11-5): Run (#1)- Pass (#21)- Overall (#8)- PPG (20.9)
2021 (13-4): Run (#3)- Pass (#21)- Overall (#5)- PPG (20.8)
2022 (8-9): Run (#15)- Pass (#9)- Overall (#13)- PPG (21.1)
2023 (9-8): Run (#5)- Pass (#29)- Overall (#7) – PPG (19.1)
2024 (10-7): Run (#4)- Pass (#29)- Overall (#16)- PPG (22.6)
Todd Bowles has been our DC for 6 years now. I personally give him a pass on 2019 because he had to totally rebuild our #31 ranked defense (from 2018) and that can’t be done overnight. After that his defenses have been quite consistent actually. He focused Job-1 on stopping the run, and our RUN defense has averaged #5 in that 6-year span. Our PASS defense has averaged #23 over that same 6-year period. OVERALL though we’ve AVERAGED in the Top-10 defensively, if you disregard 2019 (the rebuilding year).
The ONE year (2022) when we didn’t rank in the bottom half of the NFL in PASS defense (we ranked #9) guess what: our RUN defense had it’s worst ranking (#15) and our OVERALL defensive
ranking fell to #13. The following year Bowles went right back to emphasizing RUN defense as the priority. That’s who he is as a DC; he’s obviously willing to compromise the PASS defense to prioritize the RUN defense, in the belief I’m convinced that that will minimize the Points Allowed (the OVERALL).
It appears that he’s been right so far; Bucs’ defense has ranked in the Top Half of the NFL every year after 2019 under Todd Bowles. That’s no small accomplishment considering that the Bucs’ defense doesn’t exactly get the lion’s share of the salary CAP pie.
That said however, I’m still opposed to Bowles being dual-hatted as both the HC & DC. You can’t serve two masters, and thus one gets short-changed. I also don’t like the 3-4 defense as he employs it, particularly with the personnel that we have (much too much blitzing & far too many ‘compromises’ being made to cover weaknesses). Would much rather see us hire a top DC, transition back to the 4-3 and beef up our LB corps.
January 16th, 2025 at 10:39 am
an historically weak division is a powerful perfume
January 16th, 2025 at 10:44 am
So many mixed opinions. Bowles led Buc teams are too inconsistent and have too many games where they are expected to step up to the next level and they step back. Every time they get hot they fall into a trap as they did twice against Atlanta, Denver, Dallas and SF. These were all games they were supposed too win. The Dalllas loss and the too close for comfort wins vs NO and Carolina In hindsight indicate the Bucs had peaked vs the Chargers and were playing less than their best football heading into the playoffs.
Cooper Rush and Spencer Rattler dinked and dunked the Bucs passive defense with catch and run plays and controlled the ball. Bryce Young almost beat them.
It was so disappointing how they couldn’t rise up at home vs the Commanders and force a punt. The fact that the Comanders played keep away showed the Bowles didn’t have a game plan to press the short stuff and eliminate missed tackles gives me the impression that Bowles was outfoxed again by a savy coach just like Shanahan did in Ben the Niners played keepaway.
Not enough turnovers and so many missed tackles tell me that Bowles isn’t getting the most out of a team that has a better group of players than the teams he loses to because his players are not ready for these primetime games.
The Bucs made the playoffs but played a very poorly whenever they were on national gage and the lights were on.
January 16th, 2025 at 10:53 am
We could agree on some poor decisions Bowles makes with clock management, time outs etc, we will agree on that…and some others too.
But really do you think with the secondary Bucs have, with Winfield playing like he did, with only one inside LB and no pass rush during all season, excelp Yaya from time to time, Bucs will have leading stats????
Seriously??????…please guys some of you need a reality check…….
If injuries didn´t kill us, and we had talented depth on the secondary and just decent pass rush, I would be mad against Bowles, but this is not the case!!!!
January 16th, 2025 at 10:54 am
Cobraboy … ‘This team is a solid D draft away from a deep run…if the Glazers can keep Coen.’
Agree 100% Cobra, although I’d still much rather see us hire a new DC, and transition back to the 4-3. I think our existing personel better fit the 4-3 than the 3-4.
January 16th, 2025 at 11:09 am
@DR: nice to see you.
Most likely the new DC would come from his current staff…unless he chooses to make a bunch of coaching changes.
I get the impression Bowles is loyal to his guys, like Koetter, Lovie, and Arians were…
January 16th, 2025 at 11:12 am
DR is back and now we’re getting somewhere! Todd knows how important stopping the run is. And I love me some more linebackers! LaVonte please stay another year or two and let a little osmosis bleed over into our new linebacking crew. Things are getting better.
January 16th, 2025 at 11:15 am
Emmanwori should be there at 19-22…safety/LB hybrid
2nd CB Shavon Revel (might go 1st but missed 2024 with an acl injury, so maybe he drops)
3rd ? ILB? or JTS replacement? Kyle Kennard if there
4th Skattebo (if there to get Bucky some rest at times)
thats where im at…..
January 16th, 2025 at 11:18 am
BTW, @DR, as long as they have Vea, they will run a 3-4. Two Kanceys would be a 4-3.
January 16th, 2025 at 11:38 am
First, I’m not here to bash Coen; he did a great job as a first-year OC. However, a little caveat from a Baker follower. This is the third rookie OC he has made look great. As a rookie himself, the quarterback made Freddy Kitchens a genius. The team immediately make him the new head coach out of fear that some other team would swoop in on this hot new talent. Freddy’s one year as head coach was a disaster. However, I’ve read that he is living in North Carolina, where he can exchange notes with Dave Canales, the second first-time coordinator made a head coach after a one-year Baker experience. He has won a total of five NFL games in his first season, but I would say the jury is out on him because of the franchise’s fragility. Now we have a third Baked coordinator. If he gets a big paycheck, Mayfield should get a finder’s fee or something. It’s got to be more than coincidence.
January 16th, 2025 at 11:45 am
The best move for Coen (If I’m Coen) is to accept a promotion to co-HC with the Bucs. He can start assuming some HC duties and smoothly transition after Bowles retires in 1-2 years.
It’s a great way to get paid and ease into a new roll.
January 16th, 2025 at 11:59 am
Cobraboy … ‘BTW, @DR, as long as they have Vea, they will run a 3-4. Two Kanceys would be a 4-3.’
LMAO Cobra. I personally think that Vea is so dominant that he could play a 1-10 if they wanted him to. I’ve become quite frustrated with Todd’s hybrid 3-4, at least the way that he’s operating it (and especially with how our OLBs are used). We gave up far too many explosive plays this year.
January 16th, 2025 at 12:04 pm
I think Coen won’t get as many job opportunities as it may seem
I guess we’ll see
I suspect next year is a wait and see year for TB and the rest of the league who may be looking for coaches for 2026
January 16th, 2025 at 12:30 pm
Its 100% that fans are unhappy with the defensive side of the ball and failure to force offenses out of the ability to ball control the Buc defense to the point of exhaustion.
January 16th, 2025 at 12:52 pm
The author of the article is spot on. Change for the sake of change is stupid. The Bucs have a wide open window for a Super Bowl over the next two years. Why would you want to mess that up with an unknown and unproved head coach. How did that work out for so many other teams out there? The Jets have never gotten over firing Rex Ryan. The Patriots are on their second head coach after Belichick. The Panthers are on their 3rd head coach after firing Rivera. It took the Lions a few years to figure it out after firing Jim Caldwell for back to back winning seasons.
My point is that teams almost always go backwards when a successful head coach is fired. There is zero chance LVD comes back with a new head coach. A new head coach would not have taken this team to a Super Bowl. It’s not about the x’s and o’s. It’s about the personnel and this team isn’t talented enough (yet) to win it all. It could be by the draft.
January 16th, 2025 at 1:09 pm
💯 And NO ONE (nationally OR locally), were saying these things about Canales this time, last season. A completely, different narrative. The majority were like, “meh… Cya later.” Now, several others were just more butthurt over it and took it as a ‘personal’ shot towards (them) the Bucs (as they do with everything), when Canales decided to leave. Had absolutely NOTHING to do with how ‘great’ he was, or that we would have a hard time replacing him, & etc. Cohen is an entirely different situation and story… And, it’s just not even CLOSE.
January 16th, 2025 at 1:12 pm
how many times did we run a bowles play when coen wanted to run a different play? coen needs to be autonomous, and i don’t think bowles will allow that. so what you have is a defense that answers to nobody and an offense than answers to the defensive coordinator. no fair, F that, Coen should leave or demand autonomy. he can’t be deferring to a guy that isn’t as good as him
January 16th, 2025 at 1:15 pm
How many times did Bowles overrule Coen’s playcalling? Genuinely curious how you know what happens between the OC and HC…. Or is that just speculation?
January 16th, 2025 at 1:56 pm
If he fielded a better system instead of having players doing what they’re not used to coming out of college, had better time and time out management AND stop his defense from making scrub qbs look all world and keep his players from being such lazy tacklers then It’s be cool at keeping him. However since he’s been here it seems we have more missed tackles than ever before and the players have lost their instincts on how to cover receivers. I’m tired of watching guys staring into the back field even when the qb’s the only one back there mean while a receiver who just ran past them catches a pass right behind it in front of them. Inside slants are almost a guaranteed completion. I’d rather watch Liam stay by becoming HC because he’s done more for this offense in one season than Bowles has done for the defense in 3
January 16th, 2025 at 1:59 pm
YO WHY DO THESE STOOOPID P O P U P A D S WHILE I’M READING AN ARTICLE??? DANG IT STOP THE A D S. Pretty sad you guys censor simple words because they hurt your feelings!
January 16th, 2025 at 2:03 pm
At the start of the season bowles said:
“The expectations for us shouldn’t be just the division. It’s got to be the Super Bowl. We won the division the last two years,” Bowles said. “We saw how good we were last year, we can’t take none of that with us. Our expectation has got to be how we can be great.”
So he failed, his staff failed, and the team failed to meet their own expectations.
Sorry but some of the stories here, like this one, try to gaslight people to be happy with winning the division, which is nothing more than a consolation trophy.
January 16th, 2025 at 2:37 pm
Once again, Joe’s not gaslighting anyone. It comes down to this: Do you want Joe to lie to you and write Bowles is getting fired? Do you want Joe to lie and say Bowles is Lovie II?
Joe lives in the real world where half the league wishes they were as bad off as the Bucs with Bowles. Is he Bill Walsh or Andy Reid? No. He’s also no Matt Eberflus either.
If anyone reading this thinks Joe is carrying Bowles’ water, this would be news to people at One Buc Palace who are always on Joe’s ass for writing “negative” stories. If people think Joe is cheerleading for Bowles, they neither read stories on this site nor listen to Ira’s pod.
If Joe was told/heard Bowles was getting fired, Joe would write that. Joe is guessing that’s what you want if you think Joe is trying to “gaslight” readers.
January 16th, 2025 at 2:41 pm
They will do what it takes to keep Coen and if it means firing Bowles then so be it. It doesn’t matter what is heard at one buc place they’ll do whatever it takes. Todd Bowles is no Tony Dungy and they let him go!
January 16th, 2025 at 2:54 pm
Lol @ davidbigbucsfan99
Figure it out man 🤣
January 16th, 2025 at 5:07 pm
Nick2 so let’s go over this. “They’ll do whatever it takes”. To keep a first year NFL play caller over a 3 years head coach who has increased win totals yearly and won 3 division titles. A 6 year defensive coordinator who has been in the top half of all NFL defenses the last 6 years. 1 play against the Cowboys and 1 play against Washington and we’re on an 8 game winning streak and the hottest ticket in the league. Look in the mirror Nick2 and ask yourself “what planet am I living on”.
January 16th, 2025 at 5:42 pm
I hate the term Gaslighting, how did it find it’s way into my life?
January 16th, 2025 at 7:12 pm
Gone Gator I already have just gonna air my aggravation with them from time to time
January 16th, 2025 at 9:05 pm
Of course he will
But isn’t a question why Chucky was fired after a winning season and the first Bucs SuperBowl win
But Bowles stays with other coaches fired all around him and team that has only improved 2 wins in three seasons AND can’t win a playoff game ????
But The Glazers Fired Chucky for much less WHY? Keep Bowles what do they see??
I see one good thing. CHEAPER TIXS NEXT YEAR
January 16th, 2025 at 9:45 pm
ATrain:
After Brad Johnson left, the Glazers wanted Chucky to draft and develop a quarterback. Chucky refused to do so and he kept on signing expensive has-beens like Brian Griese and Jeff Garcia (though Garcia did OK with the Bucs). In a meeting between Chucky and Team Glazer after the 2008 season, the Glazers once again suggested Chucky draft and develop a quarterback. Chucky again refused and apparently the meeting got tense. Chucky allegedly told the Glazers something along the lines of leave the football to the football people.
Within two hours Chucky was unemployed. He was canned not for an inability to get past the first round of the playoffs. He was canned for insubordination.
It was no accident that Mark Dominik’s very first pick that following spring was a quarterback.