Bucky Irving Did Not Practice
October 23rd, 2024
Watched practice today.
Obviously, Joe hopes this action was taken with an abundance of caution in mind.
Given that it is a short week for the Bucs, and Monday night was such a bruising game, both physically and mentally, maybe the Bucs just decided to give rookie running back Bucky Irving a break.
Irving was one of four Bucs players who did not practice today. It seems Irving has a bum toe.
Others who did not practice are Mike Evans (hamstring), Payne Durham (calf) and Tykee Smith (concussion). Will Gholston (knee) was limited. Rakim Jarrett, who is bouncing back from a knee injury himself, was a full participant.
October 23rd, 2024 at 4:29 pm
Hope it’s not turf toe.
October 23rd, 2024 at 4:33 pm
He will be alright in his limited role against the Falcons
October 23rd, 2024 at 4:35 pm
Much more worried about Tykee Smith. The Bucs have zero depth at corner, and that’s before Smith was injured. Falcons going to get another 500 yard day this Sunday.
October 23rd, 2024 at 4:40 pm
Agree about Tykee. We desperately need him with how bad half our secondary and ILBs are playing. Giant gaping holes everywhere in that cover no one zone scheme.
Besides, White and Tucker can hold it down just fine. In fact White has been equal to or more productive than Irving in his last 3 games played:
Week 7 vs BAL:
White – 10 rushes, 40 yards, 4.0 ypc
Irving – 9 rushes, 23 yards, 2.6 ypc
Week 5 vs ATL:
White – 10 rushes, 72 yards, 7.2 ypc
Irving – 9 rushes, 44 yards, 4.4 ypc
Week 4 vs PHI:
White – 10 rushes, 49 yards, 4.9 ypc
Irving – 10 rushes, 49 yards, 4.9 ypc
October 23rd, 2024 at 4:52 pm
Seeing the lack of quality and experience @ WR, is it crazy to think of Rachaad White as a slot receiver?
October 23rd, 2024 at 4:55 pm
He’s a back up again and in typical Todd Bowles fashion he’ll only get 5-8 carries again. White is playing like his career depends on it
October 23rd, 2024 at 4:55 pm
I vote R. White becoming our next reciever in the slot. This is pretty tragic and I am really sad about Chris. He was finally passed the knee and looking super so far this season, this sucks man it really does. I think more than a fine is needed cause Smith was playing dirty on this one. I heard $17,000 fine that ain’t even as much as the surgery alone not that it goes to Chris. Go Bucs and the young guys have it in them to produce and now is their time to show it. Sorry Chris..
October 23rd, 2024 at 5:19 pm
Jake, that’s what Joe has been preaching for a long time.
October 23rd, 2024 at 5:33 pm
^ Yup it wasn’t just that play either. He went helmet to helmet on Otton and a few others like 3 or 4 times just on those last 2 drives.
Ravens with a dirty scumbag player? Color me shocked.
October 23rd, 2024 at 7:04 pm
If Bucky’s alright maybe White can get some snaps at slot during practice.
October 23rd, 2024 at 7:19 pm
Poor coaching will get more people hurt or lose the game.. Bake sounded more optimistic then bowel
October 23rd, 2024 at 7:48 pm
Jake … I think that Rachaad is the most logical choice to fill the slot receiver role, but I also think that Coen could disguise it nicely (at times) as a 2-back set. The slot receiver typically lines up between the OT & the WR (and behind the LOS obviously), so I think it could be made to look like a 2-back set. And just to keep the defense off-balance, run a few times out of that formation, or use it for screens or whatever.
Losing both Evans & Godwin truly sucks, but the Bucs still have some viable receivers. Otton played 80 of the 82 offensive snaps (98%) Monday night. Palmer played 59 snaps (72%); McMillan 49 snaps (60%); Shepard 37 snaps (45%). Heck even Culp got in for 1 snap (I’d like to see what he can do catching the ball; he’s a big target, about ME13’s size).
In any event, got a hunch we’ll be doing a LOT more running against Atlanta than we did in our 1st meeting (we ran it 26 times for 160 yards (6.2 YPC), but I think we’ll lean on it even more this time now that Goedeke’s back).
BTW, Baker was 3-for-10 deep for 76 yards against Ravens, with 1 TD & 1 INT. He was 0-for-2 deep against the Saints, and 1-for-2 for 23 yards & 1 TD against the Falcons. That’s 4-for-14 deep for 99 yards in the past 3 games. He’s thrown 5 deep to Evans, 3 to Otton, 3 to McMillan, 1 to Palmer, 1 to Shepard, 1 to Godwin. So even without Evans & Godwin, we still have some viable deep targets to stretch the field with (although Baker needs to be a LOT more selective on his deep passing; 4-for-14 for 99 yards isn’t much to write home about).
October 23rd, 2024 at 7:53 pm
@DR- Bakers deep throw troubles continue to plague him. He seems to be worse this season than last season… I often wonder if he is playing with a back injury (the lions game hit) or some combination of that and the shoulder injury changed his motion and caused that problem because he was at least a better deep ball passer in college than he is today.
October 23rd, 2024 at 8:04 pm
Defense Rules Says:
Jake … I think that Rachaad is the most logical choice to fill the slot receiver role, but I also think that Coen could disguise it nicely (at times) as a 2-back set.
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I’m a much bigger supporter of White than most people here, but I wouldn’t just automatically assume he could play in the slot – at least not in the typical way a WR would. White, if he was a WR, would be quite stocky, and while his workout numbers at RB are great – I’m not sure they translate great to a traditional WR. that’s why, I think, they’d want to use him a lot in motion – just to make sure corners don’t come up and try jamming him. However, as you said, they could basically use White in that slot role but out of a 2 back set, and if he’s getting LB’s matched up on him instead of corners, he’s going to put up huge numbers. We shall see what Coen does, but hopefully he’s creative and it’s not ‘next man up’ garbage and we’re watching some scrub WR out there doing nothing while White is stuck in a 3-man rotation and off the field 60% of the time.
As for Baker, his stats on ‘deep’ passes is much worse than you’re saying, if you define deep as 10 yards.
I did screw up earlier, and forgot the TD from Monday, which means over the last two games, Baker is 7 of 26 for 1 TD and 4 INTs on passes 10 yards and over. But Baker is very good, still, on short passes and moving in the pocket, which is why I hope they’re creative with White, I think he can really be special in that role. We shall see.
October 23rd, 2024 at 8:29 pm
The reality is these rookies don’t really have an off-season between college and the NFL. At the end of the college season. They roll right into preparing for the draft. The stress doesn’t stop. Gotta give these a rookies a break. Or injuries start to manifest themselves.
October 23rd, 2024 at 8:30 pm
The loss of Chris and Mike definitely hurts us for sure. But, I still think we have enough offensively to stay productive if Coen & staff get creative and fire up the troops. I’ve been saying for a few weeks now that White can be used in a hybrid role like a Deebo Samuel/Cordarrelle Patterson are used. Coen is a smart fella. Get creative with what we have. Opposing defensive coordinators don’t really have a ‘book’ on who is going to have to play for us offensively in the skill position group. Hoping we can somehow use that to our advantage. Our defense on the other hand, is completely shatting the bed. I know, I know,……’we gotta communicate better’ ad nauseam. Britt is definitely hurting us but, the majority of these guys have been playing together and been coached long enough to know how to freakin’ communicate. Coach Bowles this is on you & your defensive staff. Fix it yesterday!
October 23rd, 2024 at 8:45 pm
Would suck to lose Bucky this week but at this point, it’s more about the scheme and blocking which has shown to be solid. Tucker and White can split snaps and shouldn’t be much drop off if any. Irving seems to be the best back we have at creating extra yards for himself though.
October 23rd, 2024 at 9:04 pm
Rod … I just use Pro-Football-Reference’s definition of a deep pass (if they call it deep in their play-by-play recap, I consider it deep). I think they use 20 yards, but not 100% certain.
October 23rd, 2024 at 9:19 pm
Bucs and Them … ‘Our defense on the other hand, is completely shatting the bed.’
I don’t disagree (hard to defend any defense surrendering 26 PPG (and thus ranking #28), but these past 3 games have been bizarre. We were 3-1 after the first 4 games, and giving up 19.5 PPG average, but then the bottom fell out in the last 3 games (we went 1-2 there and coughed up an average of 34.7 PPG). Granted that the Falcons (ranked #15), Saints (#11) & Ravens (#1) have better-than-average offenses, but giving up over 500 total yards in each of our last 2 losses is abysmal.
We’re giving up a ton of explosive plays, and that’s totally unacceptable. So is too many penalties in these last 3 games (25 for 208 yards). Not to mention 6 turnovers in these past 3 games (twice as many as we had in the first 4 games). The big question in my mind is WHY are we imploding? Why so many explosive plays? So many penalties? So many turnovers? Ya, why so many mistakes all of a sudden?
October 23rd, 2024 at 9:23 pm
And Rod, not THAT much difference in size between Chris Godwin (6’1″ & 209 lbs) & Rachaad White (6’0″ & 214 lbs). Chris is a little quicker though (4.42 sec in the 40 versus Rachaad’s 4.48 sec for the 40 at their Combines).
October 23rd, 2024 at 10:05 pm
Unless – until – the person who is neither a good head coach, nor a good defensive coordinator is addressed with either mandatory corrective action or a termination notice, get used to 500+ yards given up averages correlating to 35+ ppg given up. The geniuses who scoffed, saying Blowes is a genius for tightening it up in the red zone are exposed. And when you can’t stop a 3rd and 19, it doesn’t matter what zone your in.
Probably the ozone.
October 23rd, 2024 at 10:41 pm
Defense Rules, it’s truly got me scratching my head. You laid it out perfectly. The implosion of our discipline, focus, and ability to adjust to adversity. I can only speculate as to why. I’ve said it here before that I have to start with the onus being on the coaches and the captains when you see the Jekyll and Hyde showing from week to week and quarter to quarter since the Denver embarrassment. Then look like world beaters vs. the Eagles. Then the ‘code turtle’ Falcon debacle. Followed by the 2nd quarter interception fest vs. the Saints blowing a 17 point lead. We got away with it somehow out scoring the Saints 27-0 in the second half. I commented then that, we won’t get away with that against a Baltimore/KC/SF type team. Watching the game Monday night with my brother, I kept pointing out how Baltimore, who had a quite a few untimely penalties called against them and it never even phased them. They just shrugged it off like nothing. They even lost a few key players and yet, they just kept on keeping on. That’s a sign of a well coached team. Conversely, we just fold like a lawn chair. If that ain’t coaching and leadership then, I haven’t a clue. So frustrating.
October 23rd, 2024 at 11:17 pm
Only a blind sycophant would be puzzled by the last three weeks, because the telltale signs have been there for three years. Bend but don’t break eventually breaks. Like a piece of wire. It gets fatigued, weakened and exposed. All of Blowes’ “mystique” has been diagnosed and blueprinted. It’s over. Either adapt or refuse, fail and be fired.
We all know what Todd won’t do. He’s too proud to admit the league has caught up to him and passed him by. Too enamored with the label of “defensive masturmind” to change.
Jason’s list of new head coaching prospects is already well developed. Intriguing to find out who it ends up being.
October 23rd, 2024 at 11:23 pm
Best pure runner on the roster is and always has been Tucker.
October 23rd, 2024 at 11:23 pm
Joe, did y c we signed houston frm giants , he is in practce squad n will wear #89
October 23rd, 2024 at 11:26 pm
Excuse me, from dallas, he did practice squad with giants n dallas n played dallas briefly, 2022
October 23rd, 2024 at 11:46 pm
Maybe Bucky didn’t practice because they want him to study the Middle Corpse position on defense. Todd will probably give the natural born leader Britt a look at running back. Genius.
October 24th, 2024 at 12:39 am
Slot receiver and RB are completely different positions. White doesn’t practice those routes, alignments, blocking, etc.
I think people are severely overestimating how easily he could play that position just because he’s a great pass catching back. Very different roles. I think Shepard is much more suited for that role personally.
October 24th, 2024 at 4:52 am
Unbelievable … ‘I think people are severely overestimating how easily he (White) could play that (slot) position just because he’s a great pass catching back. Very different roles. I think Shepard is much more suited for that role personally.’
Great point & I agree with you about Shepard (and using McMillan as slot receiver also). Godwin’s had TWO severe injuries now, and both of them came with him playing slot (I consider it probably the most dangerous position out there). But also using Rachaad in that role (or a similar one out of 2-back sets at times) could present some unique looks to opposing defenses & keep us ‘unpredictable’.
October 24th, 2024 at 7:32 am
@unbelieveable…name checks[blockquote]
Week 7 vs BAL:
White – 10 rushes, 40 yards, 4.0 ypc
Irving – 9 rushes, 23 yards, 2.6 ypc
Week 5 vs ATL:
White – 10 rushes, 72 yards, 7.2 ypc
remove 1 run and it turns into 9 rushes, 16 yards or 1.8 ypc
Irving – 9 rushes, 44 yards, 4.9 ypc
Week 4 vs PHI:
White – 10 rushes, 49 yards, 4.9 ypc
Irving – 10 rushes, 49 yards, 4.9 ypc
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October 24th, 2024 at 8:13 am
I will be happy to see MacMillan, Palmer, and Rakim Jarrett get more chances. Young receivers deliver sometimes. Speed kills!
October 24th, 2024 at 11:02 am
Omg, more bad news