New Hamstring Injury For Vita Vea
October 19th, 2024
Nooooooooo!
Joe’s peaceful Saturday has become riddled with stress.
Today’s injury report was issued and Vita Vea’s name popped. He did not practice and has a hamstring issue. This is especially noteworthy because Vea practiced all week and wasn’t on the injury list on Thursday and Friday.
Officially, he’s considered “questionable” for Monday’s night’s game against the Ravens and their No. 1-ranked rushing offense.
Joe feels comfortable saying the Bucs likely need a healthy Vea to slow the Baltimore offense. So Joe is disturbed. Vea might be the most important Bucs defensive player in this game.
Another status update from the Bucs could come tomorrow, but what’s important is Vea being healthy Monday and staying healthy for the rest of the season. Joe has little knowledge when it comes to hamstrings and 350-pound players versus receivers or running backs, so perhaps an amateur doctor can provide insight in the comments section below.
October 19th, 2024 at 3:25 pm
I mean we don’t even know the severity of it… But IF Vita actually pulled his hamstring he shouldn’t play or he could tear it off the bone given his position.
Bucs are in a rough spot… Hopefully Earnest Brown is activated and he and the rest of the Krewe play inspired football.
Either way it’s not going to be the game we imagined with a healthy Vea.
October 19th, 2024 at 3:28 pm
Do NT’s even need hamstrings?
October 19th, 2024 at 3:29 pm
@Bring Back the lawn chairs ….. Do you remember Brian Price?
October 19th, 2024 at 3:31 pm
moons over my hammy
October 19th, 2024 at 3:34 pm
Best case scenario it tightened up due to dehydration or over use and he can rest and stretch it good before the game. No massages at this point. Fingers crossed.
October 19th, 2024 at 3:37 pm
I’d be curious to see some information on how many hamstring injuries other teams normally.experience. Over the last 3 years, it sure seems like we’ve had A LOT of them.
October 19th, 2024 at 3:39 pm
Bring back the lawn chair. lol.
October 19th, 2024 at 3:42 pm
I had a hunch our Bucs may mail this one in Monday nite. Off conference, in the spotlight, now perhaps no vea. Give us a couple of bad calls early, and stick a fork in us this time imo. This one is just too ‘Denver like’.
If mayfield can post another 50 we have a chance…. Imo
October 19th, 2024 at 4:11 pm
Damn! Hopefully the Big Boy can be ready by Monday. If not, next man up. Got to find a way.
@Bring back the lawn chairs
I don’t think we fold if things get wonky this time. My (optimistic) outlook = We’re building some toughness and confidence as the season goes on and players have seen the results of staying focused on execution when crap gets hairy. They’re starting to believe, I believe, that if they just “do their job” on every play they can beat anybody in the league with the talent we/they have.
October 19th, 2024 at 4:16 pm
Good thing the game’s Monday night and not tomorrow afternoon. Hopefully tht extra 24 hours plus will help Vea heal up some.
October 19th, 2024 at 4:20 pm
48 hours rest and a ton of hydration may help.
October 19th, 2024 at 4:22 pm
Questionable with a hamstring injury for a nose tackle against the number 1 rushing attack lol he was the guy you double team now they won’t have to.
October 19th, 2024 at 4:27 pm
Strategery?
October 19th, 2024 at 4:29 pm
Ughhh… it’s clear to me the last day of practice every week needs to be avoided by Evans Godwin David Vea Kancey Winfield Wirfs … everyone else can practice. These practice injuries this season have been absurd. That’s like 4 now.
Good thing I haven’t bet that Henry rushing under yet. Won’t be doing that if Vita isn’t ready to go 100%!
October 19th, 2024 at 4:33 pm
Dang it. I could imagine him still being able to stick Henry in the hole. But having to burst to catch Lamar…then that hammy might be down for the season. Let the Docs make the call not Vita. We’ll have bigger games than this one this season.
October 19th, 2024 at 4:48 pm
Somebody needs to check the bank accounts and the betting accounts of their Strength and conditioning coaches. Wayyyyyy too many Hamstring injuries. Whatever they are doing is either intentional or incompetence. I smell betting malfeasance. I.e will Derrick Henry rush for 100 yards, Probably not with Vea and Kancey but probably so with one of them out. You could make bank knowing who will or won’t play.
October 19th, 2024 at 5:02 pm
@jmarkbuc thats what I am hoping for too haha
October 19th, 2024 at 5:07 pm
Side note, was at the superdome on Sunday. Same corner area as Alstott.
Pregame, vita’s lady was holding their baby and let the baby waddle onto the field to embrace Dad and he picked her up for pictures. After that, mom went near the field to get baby back and security dude said she needed to stay back!
I thought that was kinda funny.
October 19th, 2024 at 5:18 pm
Sit sit Falcons coming up!
October 19th, 2024 at 5:19 pm
Hoping to see the big fella pushing the mower Monday night!
October 19th, 2024 at 5:21 pm
Bucs better beat the Falcons to someone like Max Crosby before them.
October 19th, 2024 at 5:36 pm
Kancey looked like the fastest DT I’ve ever seen last week.
So happy he’s back.
And Logan Hall is a freak. He is a sideline to sideline DE. He can sprint bro!
I hope we ca afford to keep JTS and Logan Hall on cheap deals.
And give them 4 more years to develop.
They are both young and very gifted athletes.
October 19th, 2024 at 5:38 pm
Say what you want. Sapp told us this would be his career.
October 19th, 2024 at 5:39 pm
It’s a long season and if the hamstring is severe the Bucs shouldn’t push Vita. Ravens are not in the Bucs conference anyway.
October 19th, 2024 at 5:41 pm
They just need to stop practicing at the end of the week. These last minute practice injuries are getting ridiculous
October 19th, 2024 at 5:52 pm
Let’s hope Logan Hall takes his man beast supplements.
October 19th, 2024 at 5:52 pm
Oh Nooo! I was really counting on him! Sure hope he recovers.
October 19th, 2024 at 5:56 pm
If Vita can’t go we will need score 7 on every possession and Bowles will have to be super aggressive.
October 19th, 2024 at 6:09 pm
If vita can’t go hopefully Earnest brown will get activated and the Bucs play inspired football to win the game
October 19th, 2024 at 6:37 pm
This is definitely going to put us in a bad spot against the Ravens. Vita is key to clogging up those running lanes.
October 19th, 2024 at 6:40 pm
Like seriously, hamstrings yet again?
October 19th, 2024 at 6:49 pm
Need Vea for this game. Hope he can go!
October 19th, 2024 at 6:56 pm
This means the Ravens are going to run all over us. Monday night is going to be a long night
October 19th, 2024 at 7:38 pm
SMH
October 19th, 2024 at 7:40 pm
OK guys do you really think before you post? Yes it’s frustrating but why must people look for scapegoats? I’ve repeatedly read posts slamming the Buc’s for all the hammy problems. Do people realize the training staff have families and friends who read this crap. They should come here and call out the moronic JBF posters who keep floating this meme!!!!
I’ll speak for them!!! First the most moronic comment! I’m not going to mention the posters name to save him the embarrassment.
How about this conspiracy – “Somebody needs to check the bank accounts and the betting accounts of their Strength and conditioning coaches. Wayyyyyy too many Hamstring injuries” Typed from a position of true ignorance, laziness, and conspiratorial mind!!!
At least Dungy Dance simply questioned the number.
“I’d be curious to see some information on how many hamstring injuries other
teams normally.experience.”
Guys google is your freaking friend before you embarrass yourself. DD simply asked a question so I did the google search for him.
“Hamstring injuries are the most common injuries in sports, including the NFL. Of those injured, 75% result in time away from play.”
Another source –
“Hamstring strains are the second most common injury in the NFL and the third most common injury in college football. It has been reported that NFL players have a HSI recurrence rate of 38.4% and a 13.4% increased risk of reinjury if the player returned to play (RTP) within two weeks.”
You can do more research but the bottom line is that not the Glazers, not the Coaches and NOT the training staff are responsible for hammies. The training staff works with highly trained athletes who “generally” follow their directions.
Do we suppose some of the most highly trained athletes in the world, fueled by ‘roids” for unnatural growth and a plethora of other drugs, playing in a violent sport are even MORE susceptible to hamstring injuries?
Has anybody ever wondered why Brad Culpepper lost all that weight when he retired. DUH he wanted to get healthy!!!
October 19th, 2024 at 7:51 pm
@Stepete the most common cause for athletes is overuse. Second is dehydration. Third is unnatural level of exertion or unusual movement. 4th is environmental temperature like extreme heat (pulls); cold (tears). Finally, it’s usually a combination.
October 19th, 2024 at 8:25 pm
Well, could be worse. I am down here in Louisiana and a local guy just told me the Saints are so decimated by injuries that they are having open tryouts.
October 19th, 2024 at 8:38 pm
A Bucs Fan
I always enjoy your posts because you don’t just come here shooting from the lip.
Agree completely! And if you examine those issues IMHO hydration is the only thing that is truly controllable.
Our climate is what it is, the NFL requires unnatural levels of exertion and frequently overuse, at least by normal human standards.
Wait I’ve lost my mind. We all know if they just fired Bowles as head coach the Hammy problem would disappear. Of course he’d have to take the training staff and team Doc with him.
October 19th, 2024 at 9:04 pm
It comes down to the grade of the injury .
If it’s grade 1 it will just be sore but still could take 3-6 weeks to fully recover .
Grade 2 is a partial tear and up to 8 weeks recovery.
Grade 3 . 8 months
All depends on the severity of the injury . Also NFL teams have the absolute best Dr.s and technology.
He is the absolute last person the Bucs can afford to lose.
Bucs gonna have to put up 45 points to win this game IMHO .
Bucs somehow pull off the win and they are definitely in the championship conversation.
As always Go BUCS 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
October 19th, 2024 at 9:11 pm
Bucs fan81 If by super aggressive you mean blitz I’m not sure that’s a good idea . The ravens are number 1 in the NFL against the blitz .
Bucs gonna have to put up 45-48 points .
October 19th, 2024 at 9:43 pm
Noclu
Thanks for injecting some science into the situtation.
October 19th, 2024 at 10:02 pm
Bet you he plays
October 20th, 2024 at 1:17 am
Another player with a weird non contact injury 2 days before a game?
WTF man? That’s gonna make stopping Henry pretty much impossible if he can’t go
October 20th, 2024 at 1:20 am
This is an utter failure of the training staff when your NOSE TACKLE pulls his hamstring. Without all these modern training techniques anyone remind Merlin Olsen pulling a g*damned hammy?
October 20th, 2024 at 2:37 am
All good, just chill, we got this
October 20th, 2024 at 2:40 am
Man upstairs says so
October 20th, 2024 at 5:49 am
Merlin Olson played in an entirely different era. Players were MUCH smaller, far less trained, and far less roided up.
“The average size of an NFL offensive lineman back in the late 60’s to 70’s was 250 to 260 pounds. now they are easily 300 plus pounds, yet the height has remained relatively the same.”
“This is an utter failure of the training staff”
Christopher this is incomplete. Unless you’re willing to say ALL NFL staffs fail your post is bogus. All NFL teams have issues with hammies as I pointed out in the earlier post. It’s NOT about the training staffs or team Docs!
October 20th, 2024 at 6:03 am
My first reaction was, oh no! After reading the comments, some are giving us hope for the future, but maybe not for Monday night. Let him rest.
Learned a lot from some of the comments: The hamstring grades and severity are important and we don’t know Vea’s grade yet. Hamstrings are one of the top injuries along with dehydration and overuse. Yes, possibly some of the players shouldn’t practice toward the end of the week. It would be good to know the current hamstring injuries in the NFL. I did a quick search on this. “On average, there are around 176 hamstring injuries in the NFL each season.”
October 20th, 2024 at 7:22 am
@HeyJude
Research…what a concept! Good on you!
I saw that same number of 176 which if representative of the entire league means that teams average 5.5 players per season with significant HSI’s.
What skews things however and leaves this dumb impression about the Bucs team Doc and trainers is another stat.
“players have a HSI recurrence rate of 38.4% and a 13.4% increased risk of reinjury if the player returned to play (RTP) within two weeks.”
This has particularly affected the Bucs. TWO guys have accounted for a majority of these HSI on the Bucs. I do not know the other 3.5 if the Bucs are average.
ME13 has a long history of hamstring problems. Probably related to some arcane fact like the length of his muscle attachments. Again though I’m not a trainer much less a Doc.
Vita has also accounted for a significant number of the “hammy stories”.
He is simply a physical freak. That which makes him great also makes him vulnerable. William “The Fridge” Perry was a guy who got a lot of press for his massive size. He was 6-2 335. Vita is 6-4 350+ That is a LOT of beef to put through the paces.
IE Two guys have accounted for the vast majority of hamstring stories on the Bucs. I do not know who the other 3.5 players this season suffering from HSI’s, but I’m pretty sure Vita and Mike are not the only ones, just the only ones to have them EVERY season.
October 20th, 2024 at 7:33 am
It’s about time JoeBucsFan admitted they never really got a handle on understanding injuries.
It’s honestly been one of the site’s weakest points. Maybe it’s time to bring in an intern who can give them a bit more insight.
October 20th, 2024 at 7:55 am
True, stpetebucsfan. “Players have a HSI recurrence rate of 38.4% and a 13.4% increased risk of reinjury if the player returned to play (RTP) within two weeks.” So much to all of this and Mike has been vulnerable to hamstrings. Vea is a physical beast. That is for sure.
geno711 points out that some of us don’t understand injuries on the teams, grades, et al. For myself, I agree with that when talking about the NFL and injuries we are seeing along with concussions. It would be good to know about each team’s strategy concerning injuries they are seeing with their players in lieu of the NFL guidelines. What works more for the healing process on an individual basis.
October 20th, 2024 at 8:21 am
Pulled hammies have been a part of football since Rutgers played Princeton in 1869…
October 20th, 2024 at 8:52 am
Good point, Cobraboy.
We will wait to see how and when Vea recovers. Depends on the grade and that could be a couple of weeks for grade 1. But look at Mike, he keeps going in with his.
With so many NFL changes over the years, I wonder what the percentage difference has been from twenty-thirty-forty plus years ago to current for all injuries including concussions known. Broken down to reasons why.
October 20th, 2024 at 9:48 am
Is Jason Light ever going to take stretching and warming up to the next level hamstring injuries for the Bucs or just out of control?
October 20th, 2024 at 9:57 am
Hamstring injuries are kit of control…… and yes, they are highly preventable………. The condition plus the supplements that these athletes are taken the water them and make them highly susceptible so give people IVs, Ensure your players are drinking a gallon or two of water every day and stay on them about it and increasing your stretching and warming up time will greatly reduce hamstring injuries………. Or you can just say there ain’t nothing we can do about it, man !! That’s a lazy ass losers mentality! Yes, it takes time and effort to reduce these types of injuries you can’t be mentally lazy and incompetent and expect to reduce them .