It’s Not Just “One Guy”
August 2nd, 2023
Really guys?
Joe really cannot believe Tristan Wirfs said this.
Joe is a huge, huge, huge — did Joe mention “huge?” — Tristan Wirfs fan. He’s one of Joe’s favorite Bucs of all-time. And Joe gets what Wirfs is trying to say, but let’s not get carried away here.
In a column typed by Jeremy Fowler of BSPN, Fowler, who was at One Buc Palace this week, explained that just about the whole Bucs building is appalled and aghast if not confused why in the world so many people believe the Bucs will crater this year.
Yes, the Bucs know Tom Brady is gone. And that’s a huge reason.
Fowler seemed to try to paint a picture that the Bucs are suggesting Brady is replaceable and was little more than a celebrity quarterback (sort of like Johnny Football and Jameis).
“It’s nuts. We’ve got a lot of great players still,” said Ieft tackle Tristan Wirfs of the slights. “It’s not bad to put a chip on our shoulder, I guess. I’ve seen the narrative. But we lost one guy.”
Wirfs is absolutely correct that the Bucs have a lot of talent. Sadly, the dire predictions begin with Brady’s departure and end with the rocky career of Baker Mayfield or the vast unknown of green-as-grass Kyle Trask.
Brady is not just one guy. And surely Wirfs knows this. In the very slight chance he doesn’t, he will learn quite quickly.
How many games do the Bucs win without Brady last year? Four? The Bucs were 8-10 last year and won five games by one score. And that was with arguably a top-five player in the history of the game pulling games out of his ass in the fourth quarter.
Yes, the Bucs lost one guy. A great player. A Hall of Fame guy. A guy who had no peer. At a team’s most important position.
No, sorry. Brady is not replaceable. Brady was not just one guy. This is like saying Michael Jordan was just one guy.
Could the Bucs be a playoff team without Brady? Sure, because the division is so bad. Could the Bucs be bad without Brady? Also, sure. Remember, they had a losing record in a bad division with him.
This is why so many folks nationally don’t expect the Bucs to be much without Brady. Because they weren’t a winner last year with him.
August 2nd, 2023 at 12:54 am
@Joe – all about how you frame Brady. 2020/2021 Brady was GOAT status, 2022 Brady was “just a guy”. He was not focused, and clearly a shell of his prior 2 years with the team. 2022 Brady can be replaced and upgraded upon
August 2nd, 2023 at 12:54 am
If the Bucs had a QB who didn’t mentally check out on the team in August and could extend plays then we’re probably a double digit win team.
August 2nd, 2023 at 1:03 am
They didn’t get a great year out of B***y last year. We can have a better offense this year, and I believe we will. Continuing to rehash and refer back to the former QB is pointless and not very interesting. Wirfs is right. This is a talented team, and they’re building something new. Get on board or be a whiny little bizznitch.
August 2nd, 2023 at 1:05 am
I can’t believe I’m reading this on JBF. Its spot on – and I just didn’t come from the Buffet with a sprained calf either.
Brady is the GOAT.
But the game marches on. There are new players that take over when veterans retire. Hopefully, the youngblood talent is good and we’ll have great football to enjoy in the coming season.
August 2nd, 2023 at 1:27 am
Well Joe, and Tom, presumably, it really is just one guy. In that context anyway. Wirfs said exactly the right thing. Clearly that’s the attitude they need to have whether or not people agree with it.
August 2nd, 2023 at 1:45 am
Joe … ‘This is why so many folks nationally don’t expect the Bucs to be much without Brady. Because they weren’t a winner last year with him.’
So because we couldn’t win with a 45-year-old unfocused Brady (who needed to be supported by a Lamborghini instead of a Yugo) in 2022 we’re gonna be garbage in 2023? Lazy analysis on the part of the national media. But why should we expect otherwise?
Bucs have made some major changes since we won the SB in 2020. We’re a much younger yet more inexperienced team. We’re embarking on a major transition from being an offense-driven team to being a more ‘balanced’ team offensively & defensively. Can we pull it off? Guess that’s why we play the games.
August 2nd, 2023 at 1:55 am
If you don’t have a QB, you don’t have a chance. That’s true for every team in the NFL regardless of how much talent they have. If the Bucs, for example, had traded of Aaron Rodgers, they’d be picked to easily win the NFC South and be a SB contender. Heck, if Winston was cut and came back they’d still be picked to win 9 games.
But they got Baker Mayfield, who is on his 4th team in a year, who has literally been the worst QB in football for the last 2 years. So the line is 6.5, and if Mayfield does start, if Trask can’t beat him out, I’m taking the under.
August 2nd, 2023 at 2:12 am
Last year isn’t a good example of Brady’s greatness. Last year if the Bucs had an average Qb they probably would have won another game or two. It wasn’t his fault but he definitely wasn’t himself.
August 2nd, 2023 at 2:14 am
Joe be easy on Tristan, he’s young. With time he’ll learn to appreciate what he had.
If the offensive line gives the new qb’s 2 seconds to throw the ball like they did Brady last year, we won’t have to be concerned with which qb will start, as they both will end up on the injury list. Quick.
And if the secondary plays like they did against Dallas, in their last game played; it’s gonna be a really really long season.
3-14 may be a tad optimistic imo.
August 2nd, 2023 at 2:21 am
And to think, no Brady and no check down Lenny? This thing could get ‘3 stooges funny’ imo.
August 2nd, 2023 at 2:23 am
Let me just say this: Brady last year was better than Brad Johnson ever was. Even distracted. That means we could still win a superbowl with him.
But…the Brady era is over. It was a blast while we had him, but people are right that it is time to move on. We really do not have a say in the matter. Media might like to talk about him playing again, but it is not going to happen.
As to Baker Mayfield, no need to rehash his history, but the odds are against him turning his career around. Literally against him doing so.
In reality, the odds are stacked against Kyle Trask as well. A rookie OC, an under developed offensive line, one of worse running attacks (previously), his lack of experience…
…but Trask is currently in Wild Card status. We all may criticize him for not getting promoted sooner, but give the situation he was in, none of us can say with certainty that Arians or Bowles weren’t preventing it…not out of malice, but it’s out of caution in case Brady went down.
He almost certainly did not get to work with starting talent until recently. Now that he is? He’s showing some talent.
I personally want Baker Mayfield to be named starter…even though I want to see Trask play.
Why? Because I figure the offensive line needs some games under it’s belt. Week six is our bye week. That gives Mayfield 5 games to prove how horrible he is…and I’m fairly confdent that will be the case.
Replace him with Trask over the bye week, and Trask has 12 games to prove himself boom or bust.
If busr? We get a high degree ick. If boom? We won’t need a high pick.
August 2nd, 2023 at 2:26 am
Trask would have been better than Brady last year. To prove it, this year he will be statistically better than Brady was last year. Trask is the Baby GOAT!!!
August 2nd, 2023 at 3:17 am
You could also just as easily say
I do expect the team to be much better, especially with the Les Steckel performance like offense no longer in house. We just need a short yardage back and another TE IMHO.
August 2nd, 2023 at 3:17 am
I say go Trask all the way. We’re about to catch lightning in a bottle. Let’s not eff this up.
August 2nd, 2023 at 3:18 am
Bonzai … ‘I personally want Baker Mayfield to be named starter…even though I want to see Trask play. Why? Because I figure the offensive line needs some games under it’s belt. Week six is our bye week. That gives Mayfield 5 games to prove how horrible he is…and I’m fairly confident that will be the case. Replace him with Trask over the bye week, and Trask has 12 games to prove himself boom or bust.’
Forgive me Bonzai, but the logic here escapes me. It sounds like you’re willing to sacrifice the first 5 games just to prove a point (that Mayfield is horrible?). That’s pretty much what Carolina did to start last season with Mayfield (they were 1-4 after 5 games), then fell to 2-7 before they made a QB change … and managed to finish 7-10 (a 5-3 streak for the 2nd half of the season). But in the end, it was still a losing season, that MIGHT have been a winning season had they chosen to start Darnold/Walker instead of Mayfield).
I see this as a true QB competition with jobs on the line. By the end of preseason it’ll be obvious which QB should get the starting nod. And I’m convinced that Bowles & Canales will go with that QB. Chances are also good however that whoever gets the starting nod will be on a relatively short leash. I’ve got no problem with that; I prefer winning over losing.
August 2nd, 2023 at 3:46 am
LOL you guys missed your calling!
You have an amazing talent for posting the most unflatering photos of any fan site on the net. Brady looks like he just walked out of a hospital in that pic.
Go Bucs!
August 2nd, 2023 at 3:51 am
I think we have been infltrated by a bunch of casual football fans who maybe watched the first quarter of a game two years ago with their dad and are now experts on Tom Brady.
I hear the Saints are looking for fans to cheer for Jameis when he comes in.
Go Bucs!
August 2nd, 2023 at 4:28 am
This is nuts. The sense of entitlement by some fans are crazy. Did you forget that we have the worst winning % percentage in NFL history!! We went through a whole lost decade where we didn’t sniff the playoffs. With Brady comes increase media attention. He’s the GOAT at QB of course he’s gonna garner a sizable amount of attention.
People have reduced Brady’s entire three years with the team to his below average play last year. We’re just gonna pretend that when he got to this organization we had an idea about setting a standard and winning culture. Sure, we had talent, but there are other teams who also had talent. We just didn’t need a plug and play QB. Brady put up some of his best numbers in his career his first two years. More importantly, he provided the team with leadership and the belief in themselves.
His first year here he faced some obstacles. He arrived in the middle of a pandemic where he had limited time with his teammates. There was literally no off-season to get chemistry with his skill players. He had to learn a whole new offense behind that backdrop. Most QBs wouldn’t have been able to conquer those circumstances. Learning a new offense is like learning a new language. When Peyton left Indy for Denver, he installed his own offense. He didn’t need to start from square one. Aaron Rodgers is doing the same thing in NY. He even brought over his old OC! Byron said on a podcast that Brady told me he’ll do whatever he wanted because he trusted BA and Leftwich.
During his first season, he naturally had some struggles early on, but he didn’t fold under the pressure. Remember, the expectations were enormous his first year. I will point to two games his first season where I know this team in the past would have just given up. It was the game against the Chargers and ATL. We were down big in the first half, but we came back and won. Previous years we would have just quit!
I know he had big SB wins in the past, but I would argue that the first year with the Bucs with no off-season and learning a new offense was one of his finest accomplishments.
The revisionist history of his tenure is a nasty agenda. I would also add in that this is also disrespectful to Leftwich. Yeah, the offense wasn’t pretty last year, but did people forget that Leftwich was the play caller in 2020 and 2021 when we were a top 5 offense. Yeah, let’s just talk about last season as if that didn’t happen.
Let’s also not forget we were close to being bounced in the WC during our SB run. Fans like to ignore that game and focus just on the defensive performance against the later team. Brady threw for almost 400 yards and 3 TDs. It would’ve been more had Godwin didn’t drop so many passes. Leftwich was in his bag during that game. We don’t win that game without Brady and the offensive performance. It would have been no SB. Our defense made the third string QB in Heineke look like Mark Rypien.
Finally, Brady hasn’t conducted himself as a celebrity. His teammates have said the exact opposite! He fit in like one of those guys despite his status as the GOAT. Lavonte had some good quotes about he thought Brady would be some diva, but he actually was a cool dude.
The insecurity of some fans and players is being masked as some chip on the shoulder. You don’t hear many comments about Rodgers leaving the Packers by players. When Brady left NE, you really didn’t hear all the whiny stuff from players about being disrespected because of the lower expectations because Brady left the team.
You know what? The expectations for us after the Brady exit is the SB. That’s the standard that he set during his tenure with the team. It’s a loser mentality to just think finishing better than 8-9 and making the playoffs is acceptable. So backup the tough talk with a SB. The Patriots didn’t crumble when Brady left. They fielded some pretty competitive teams. You know why the media still doesn’t think that’s enough? It’s because the standard will always be the SB with the Patriots. Making the playoffs and improving on an anemic offense is seems to be our standard. That’s the difference between a winning mentality and a losing mentality.
The fact is some of you fans didn’t want Brady here in the first place. You hated him and wished he would fail. You couldn’t wait until he showed signs of declining. He totally messed up your agenda when he actually excelled with the team.
August 2nd, 2023 at 4:34 am
One last point. The media are down on us not because it was Brady who left. It’s because our QB room is in serious questions. People like to make it out like somehow the talent on our is team is been disrespected. This is a QB driven league. If we would have signed a proven QB, the media would rank us much higher. That’s why analysts were clamoring for the Bucs to sign Carr or Jimmy G.
August 2nd, 2023 at 6:10 am
Wow. Who needs reality. Opinions are like A holes. Everyone has one. Quote, if we had signed a proven QB……. As if any team happily trades away a top tier QB! But then opinions are like discharge ports. Everybody has one. Reality is Brady played one more year than he should have. And injuries to key players severely damaged the Bucs level of play. I respect your anguish. Most of us feel the same way.
August 2nd, 2023 at 6:19 am
Why no August 1 training camp notes?
August 2nd, 2023 at 6:20 am
If Peyton, Belichick, or some other highly accomplished coach were running the show folks would have a valid reason to believe in the possibility of a successful season. However Bowles isn’t remotely close to those guys from a coaching/game management perspective. His defense is built to spotlight a player that freelances, loafs, pouts, etc….yet he expects the defense to execute at the highest level. Bowles routinely chokes in big moments….the blitz during the Rams game was probably the dumbest play call one could possibly make, taking the ball away from Brady in the 4th qtr against Cleveland is another…He’s just not a good HC in the NFL. To have the only losing season of Tom Brady’s career with all the talent we have IN THE WEAKEST DIVISION IN THE LEAGUE just shows you how mediocre Bowles is.
August 2nd, 2023 at 6:26 am
@Bobby M. Great point about Bowles. That’s also a factor in our low rankings.
August 2nd, 2023 at 6:41 am
Last year’s TB12 was just one guy. I’m with Tristan.
Brady sucked last year. So he’s right. We lost one guy.
No big deal.
August 2nd, 2023 at 6:43 am
To reason Tampa could be better this year because Brady was not good last year is ridiculous. For a guy with 2 seconds to get rid of the ball he did pretty well. Plenty of 2nd and 9’s and Brady made the best of it. Be thankful Brady did what he did or Bryce Young may be Tampa’s QB1 who by the way looked God Awful yesterday and why I have Tampa down for at least two of their wins in the Division.
Instead of saying it’s just one guy perhaps it’s just one position would be better. Last year there was plenty of positions that could be looked at from the top on down.
HC. Same guy but hopefully he keeps his hands off the Offense and produces a Top 5 Defense.
OC. I like the change. If the guy at the top shackles him then you may as well have kept Byron. QB’s job depends on the Line around him and he has to put his faith in it and let it do it’s job. Same between HC an OC. Let Canales do his job.
QB. New Guy. Not Brady but not Bryce Young who once again looked just awful yesterday. I like at least one of Tampa’s options here.
RB. No backs going to gain yardage if the defense knows it’s coming up the middle 90% of the time. Success is based on the OC here.That’s his job.
What it comes down to is every position is dependent on someone else for their success. If the Head Coach micro manages because he fears for his job then it’s not going to be good.
Hackett got fired in Denver and got a job with the Jets so failure as a HC is not the end. If he just does his job and not everybody else’s Tampa will be just fine.
August 2nd, 2023 at 6:45 am
Give me a break. Brady averaged 18 points per game last season. Near the bottom of the NFL. Lose Brady, lose Leftwich, add Canales, and both Trask and Shorty can average that. At least.
August 2nd, 2023 at 6:48 am
“How many games do the Bucs win without Brady last year? Four? The Bucs were 8-10 last year and won five games by one score. And that was with arguably a top-five player in the history of the game pulling games out of his ass in the fourth quarter.“
LMAO!!! This is a perversion of the truth lol 7-3 in game our defense held opponents under 21 points, lol our Tom Brady led offense generated 12 points in a game we held our opponent to 14 points. We had to goto OT with a team we only allowed to score 16 points. Stop the madness Joe, our offense had to “comeback” because they showed up to games lifeless
August 2nd, 2023 at 7:01 am
It’s no coincidence that both the Bucs and the Packers were 8-9 last season, each with a fossil at quarterback (Brady and Rodgers). Time for each team to move on.
August 2nd, 2023 at 7:16 am
Let’s be real, all of the Bucs players have been trained to handle the first season post-Brady. These are PR statements.
Even though Brady didn’t play like himself, he is still the GOAT. You don’t just replace a GOAT and expect not to have some big shoes to fill. Just the pressure alone of taking over from the GOAT is enough to make most teams have a bad year. Case in point – the Patriots. How did they do filling that massive vacuum left when Brady was gone? Sprinkle onto that the fact that Traskfield has to replicate the ability to put the OL in the right protection and it’s not looking pretty. But, as good as Brady has made the OL look, we still had a QB who threw for 5,000 yards before Brady came along. So, it’s not impossible to have at least an 8-8 record if our QB protects the ball while padding stats.
Our defense will have to carry us this season. If they can relieve some of the pressure from the offense, I will bet we can at least hit 8-8. We still have play makers on offense that will have to carry the load too. But, we have to have an average running game to remove some pressure from the QB and let him be effective.
You don’t need a HOF QB to win a SB, but you better have everything else in place.
August 2nd, 2023 at 7:19 am
*8-9 as we have a 17-game season.
August 2nd, 2023 at 7:52 am
Another dumb commentary by JBF. OF COURSE Tom Brady is replaceable, and is being replaced. Well, you are guessing Brady is replaceable in 2023. It’s a safe bet that he’s not. However, the “other Joe” might agree with you if you strictly focus on the vaccum of 2022. The Bucs can find a lot of QBs to suck horribly in the third quarter and lead the team to averaging 18 points per game like Brady did last year. As Peyton Manning has often said, he’s not proud of his many fourth-quarter comebacks because that just means he wasn’t good enough in the first three quarters.–Joe
What, are the Bucs, as well as the other 31 NFL teams, supposed to just quit now that the GOAT has left the building?
A lot of people thought Joe Montana was irreplaceable in San Francisco. How did that work out?
A lot of people thought that Brett Favre was irreplaceable in Green Bay. How did that work out.
Every single player is replaceable, and yes, teams try to reload and move on. Some successfully, and some not so successfully.
That’s why they play the games.
Here’s the thing, that while Mayfield may be a fairly well known commodity, nobody knows jack poo poo about Trask. Instead of declaring Trask a loser, how about just taking a wait and see attitude.
Finally, there is WAY WAY WAY too much attention and value placed on the quarterback position in the NFL. Remember that MVP quarterback we played in the Super Bowl in February 2021? He looked sick in that 31-9 beatdown by the Bucs … mostly because his offensive line was AWOL. If his offensive line had been able to protect him the game clearly would have been very different.
Sound familiar?
August 2nd, 2023 at 7:52 am
lambchop … ‘Our defense will have to carry us this season.’
Nothing to disagree with there lambchop. It has to take our offense awhile to gel early in the season, because we’ve got a lot of new and/or inexperienced parts. But I do think that it will come together at least by mid-season, and also believe that we can get to 10-7 IF we stay reasonably healthy. Obviously that’s a BIG IF based on most recent history.
The key IMO will be to hit the mid-season point with at least a 4-4 record. If we get too far behind the 8-ball, we’ll be toast. But if we can get the offense up-to-speed & get on a roll, going 6-3 in those last 9 games is doable.
August 2nd, 2023 at 7:56 am
Brady did far more to sabotage and hold the offense back than he did to help it last season. Three quarters of audibles to smoke screens and checkdowns vs one quarter of Real Brady is not a fair trade. Rewatch the Bucs vs Cardinals OT quarter last season. Brady went down the field in half of his throws in OT, protection was perfect in every throw. This was after three quarters of allowing the Cards, led by a 3rd stringer, to play with a lead because we were content to throw nearly all passes at or behind the LOS and punt. Last season’s disaster is on Brady. Sure, blame Leftwich for not being able to deprogram Brady into being a down field threat and playing scared but this was squarely on Brady.
August 2nd, 2023 at 8:15 am
The goat is gone time to move on
August 2nd, 2023 at 8:23 am
Brady certainly wasn’t all of the problem last year, but he absolutely was part of the problem. The Bucs would have won more than eight games if he was actually focused on playing football. He wasn’t. That level of play is definitely replaceable when combined with a healthier team and an OC that has everybody from the owners to the water boy ramped up. This team will win more than eight games.
August 2nd, 2023 at 8:26 am
The Bucs hired the GOAT. The Bucs lost “just a guy.”
“What have you done for me lately?”
August 2nd, 2023 at 8:28 am
Defense has been very consistent the last three years giving up 350 points. The difference between Arians and Bowles is the offense scored 500 the year before and 311 last year. I think Brady really missed Gronk who was always moving the chains. You can point fingers in every direction and still come up with the same statistical result. The offense did not score last year. The reason we had to come back in the fourth quarter is we didn’t do crap the first three.
August 2nd, 2023 at 8:44 am
Brady was mentally checked out last season and was brought in simply to sell tickets based on his name only. It was a blow to the future of the organization, but the owners wanted to make money now and thought little about the state of the team.
August 2nd, 2023 at 9:59 am
Uh yea he is one just guy we have a glimpse of what it’s like to play on a talentless team. I guess everyone forgot his last year playing for the patriots. It didn’t matter he was just one guy and younger in that playoff lost did it?
Put Brady on the worst team in the nfl and tell me what that one guy is gonna do!! Didn’t matter he was just one guy when we got smashed against the cowboys last year.
August 2nd, 2023 at 10:57 am
The Michael Jordan comparison is stupid. Basketball doesn’t have 22 starters plus special teams. And even if you want to go there, the Jordan-less Bulls made the playoffs.
Brady in 2008 or even 2020 was no “one guy” but last season he certainly was just an ordinary QB with an extraordinary resume.
August 2nd, 2023 at 11:41 am
The Bucs lost Marpet and Cappa last year and cut Smith in the off-season. How they rebuild the OL is the most important development this year.
August 2nd, 2023 at 12:06 pm
Bucs will better because the offensive line will play better , being able to run on first down
August 2nd, 2023 at 12:53 pm
Duane Says:
“A lot of people thought Joe Montana was irreplaceable in San Francisco. How did that work out?”
“A lot of people thought that Brett Favre was irreplaceable in Green Bay. How did that work out?”
Most everyone knew Steve Young was the real deal as well as Rodgers behind Favre. I don’t get your point.
August 2nd, 2023 at 1:54 pm
Only thing you can fairly project off of is last year. We know MVP caliber QB play (which we got in 20 & 21) would make this roster a top championship contender, but last year one of the biggest problems was QB play that was barely league average. Plenty of reasons for the letdown season but Brady’s performance loomed large.
There were some great comeback wins, but most of them were only made necessary by the 50+ minutes of futility Brady oversaw before scoring in the dying seconds. Most weeks, our offense did more to break down our defense than opposing offenses
There’s another guy who was critical last year whose absence is also a major factor….for the better. Leftwich is gone. Even if the QB position is worse, the gameplans are almost certain to be better.
August 2nd, 2023 at 11:55 pm
I’ve never been more embarrassed by our fans. Seriously comparing anyone of these guys to brady is insane. Nothing but trolls or people who belong in a mental institution commentingon here..
Let Mayfield get his 4-6 starts to finally prove he’s not a starter. Then give Trask his shot where his only job is to get us the number 1 pick in next year’s draft. Winning 5 games will be a disaster leading us to another 15 year playoff drought
August 3rd, 2023 at 12:07 am
No one is pining over the losses of Donovan Smith, Playoff Lenny, or our short ranged but reliable kicker. Granted none of them were “Goats” but all 3 were instrumental pieces in the SB year.
Brady 2022 season advantages, Goat, quick release, leadership, cool and calm in 4th quarter
Brady 2022 season disadvantages, Not a run threat, distracted, not all in, didn’t want to get hit and played with the anchor of Lefty’s unimaginative predictable play calling.
For that last one you have to ask yourself, was Lefty’s playbook limited as a result of Brady’s lack of mobility and/or extreme aversion to getting hit? Did Brady limit Lefty’s play calling choices?
Almost every QB in the league other than Rothliesberger and Ryan was more mobile and presented a scrambling risk that opposing defenses need to account for. The added mobility of Traskfield offsets the quick release as far as the offensive line.
Maybe 2022 18 ppg Brady who was the Goat returned to Earth is not as big of a loss as prior year Brady.
That’s the hope at least.
August 3rd, 2023 at 1:17 am
He said We lost one goat
August 3rd, 2023 at 8:17 am
Brady lookin like Texas Buyers Club
August 3rd, 2023 at 11:39 am
Sorry, but Brady was a liability last year. People seem to be afraid to call it out. Yes he’s the GOAT, and up until last year he seemed to defy aging. But he looked past his prime this last season – I commend him on knowing when to retire. What an amazing career Tom! Having said that, even with average WB play the Bucs will be a mid-tier team. Last year was a prime example…
August 3rd, 2023 at 11:40 am
Err.. QB play