More Confusing Kyle Trask Chatter
August 13th, 2022
QB Kyle Trask
Kyle Trask is in a very rare quarterback boat, the same one he floated in last year apparently without a paddle, a motor or a captain.
The chatter on Trask gets more strange by the day, in Joe’s humble opinion.
The 2021 second-round pick has the same coaches around him but things are very different, if you listen to head coach Todd Bowles.
In addition to other comments, like saying Trask is really more like a rookie, Bowles dropped this gem on SiriusXM NFL Radio this week.
“The things he got to do mentally last year he’s doing physically this year. And he’s doing them for the first time in practice, really overall just running it because we didn’t have the time last year trying to get everybody else ready,” Bowles said. “This year, he’s commanding the offense. He understands where he goes with the football. He’s making his checks and his audibles.”
Bowles went on to say he wants to see Trask react under the lights, how he deals with getting hit, his “moxie,” and all the little things that go into evaluating a quarterback that can’t be judged well in practice.
So the Bucs didn’t have time last year?
Joe gets that Brady wasn’t on a sabbatical in 2021, but it’s still very odd to hear there’s wasn’t time a year ago but this year there is. Once upon a time, Brady himself arrived at training camp as a rookie and moved his way up the depth chart from the No. 4 quarterback position.
Joe references the “rare” situation Trask is in; that’s having two longtime veterans ahead of him on the depth chart.
SiriusXM NFL Radio host Jim Miller, the former Steelers, Bears, Patriots and Bucs quarterback, talked about how valuable and rare that is for a young QB. Miller said he was in that boat back in 1994 and it helped his development greatly when he was under Mike Tomczak and Neil O’Donnell in Pittsburgh.
Perhaps all that mentoring will pay off for Trask tonight in the preseason opener?
August 13th, 2022 at 7:47 am
The Joe’s have made it clear that pre-season games are a waste of time and they (the Joe’s) don’t care one iota about those games. Lt. Dan is not in lock step with the Joe’s on this subject.
First, only one Joe says that. Sorry for the confusion. The other Joe loves the games, sees the developmental value for the bottom of the roster and recognizes that guys like Adam Humphries and other memorable Bucs of years past wouldn’t have existed in the NFL without them. That said, an 18-game season makes more sense and if teams can get the work they need in joint practices, then F the preseason. –Joe
I am absolutely geeked about tonight! After a six month hiatus…It’s back! Football season has arrived!!
August 13th, 2022 at 7:55 am
Gotta say Joe that I’m never sure whether you’re praising Trask or condemning him. Kyle’s had ZERO control over his situation since being drafted. In this & the previous regime, Brady was always gonna be #1 and Gabbert was always gonna be #2. Trask is that untested QB who’ll always have question marks surrounding him UNTIL he starts several regular-season games and shows everyone what he has. Or doesn’t have.
Preseason may show us a little bit, but until you run with the big dogs there’s no way of knowing IMO whether or not you can keep up with the pack. And lead it.
August 13th, 2022 at 8:13 am
I am excited for our first preseason game. I hope the starters look sharp and suffer zero injuries. I’m looking forward to get some game film to watch so we can evaluate guys like Trask, Thompkins, Darden, White, Otton and the new Oline guys…
They should give Trask at least a full half to play.
August 13th, 2022 at 8:14 am
“Trey Lance didn’t play enough in Friday night’s preseason game to draw any definitive conclusions about how he looks heading into his first season as the 49ers’ starting quarterback. But what he did do was promising.“
Let’s hope this is never said about Trask.
August 13th, 2022 at 8:25 am
I don’t buy it, DR. In fact, I think the NFL as a whole ruins many promising QBs by throwing them into the fire too early. Rookie QBs should carry a clip board during games, and stay in close proximity to the coaching staff so that they can absorb as much as possible. Instead of game time ,they should study the playback and film, and take their practice snaps seriously. The alternative is what franchises like Cleveland does, which is to impatiently toss the rookie QBs into the fire as it helps sell tickets. The kids aren’t ready, and the speed and complexity of the NFL game eats them alive.
How much playing time did Brady get in his rookie season? And by the way, he played behind a QB who was considered one of the best. What about Kurt Warner, who played on a on a smaller field in Arena Football, and had a different coaching staff in European football. Warner had almost zero playing time as a rookie as well. But both were very dedicated workers, and both benefitted by not being thrown into the fire during their rookie seasons.
In my view, Trask has the same coaching staff, the same playback, and ample opportunity to learn. He doesn’t have to travel through the Nine Circles of Hell like a Josh Rosen, who is now ruined.
August 13th, 2022 at 8:41 am
Passing Thru, the reason why there is so much pressure for rookie quarterbacks to start is because these organizations want to give themselves a chance to build a superbowl squad while their young qb is still under a rookie contract. It becomes hard pressed to reach a superbowl when a star qb demands 1/4 of the salary cap.
August 13th, 2022 at 8:55 am
PassingThru … I don’t disagree with you. My point was however that ‘until you run with the big dogs there’s no way of knowing IMO whether or not you can keep up with the pack. And lead it.’
A QB could carry a clipboard for 10 years (aka, Ryan Griffin?) but until he gets into real games (that actually count) no one will ever know whether or not they have what it takes to lead a winning team.
August 13th, 2022 at 8:59 am
I’m anxious to see what Trask can do over the 3 preseason games. Given the mentoring and coaching he’s had, his performance in these exhibition games should tell us whether we’ve got a keeper or a bust.
August 13th, 2022 at 9:16 am
I could have sworn I have read a few times where this exactly the same way he was developed in high school and college.
August 13th, 2022 at 9:32 am
Looking forward to finally seeing Trask get some extended game time. It’s not his fault that the Bucs brought him along so slowly. But in the long m run they did him a favor. Hold a clip board for season one and learn the ropes slowly. Same way Brady came up. Throwing a rookie into real time play has ruined many a young qb. Can not see a reason to keep more than 3 qbs this season. We should get a much better idea of his potential this pre season.
August 13th, 2022 at 9:44 am
I believe Trask will eventually figure things out and be a good QB. Not sure when, but hopefully he will develop more rapidly with more reps in the preseason.
August 13th, 2022 at 9:54 am
Not confusing for most people. I think you try to read between the lines too much.
August 13th, 2022 at 9:58 am
Getting rid of preseason would be a mistake. The underdog story is always entertaining, and nothing serves it up better than an UDFA balling out on the final game to earn a spot. The games are needed for developmental purposes as well. Can’t wait to see Trask and find out who Cinderella is this year.
August 13th, 2022 at 10:25 am
LOOKING VERY MUCH FORWARD TO SEEING HOW KYLE TRASK PERFORMS TONIGHT..I’M A GATORS FAN AS WELL AS A BUCCANEERS FAN..HE PLAYED VERY FAST & ACCURATE AT FLORIDA, I WAS VERY HAPPY WHEN WE DRAFTED HIM..HE BEAT GEORGIA HIS SENIOR YEAR & THRU ABOUT TD PASSES IN THAT GAME..HE WAS AVERAGING ABOUT 4 TD’S PER GAME MOST OF THAT SEASON & FINISHED 4TH IN THE HEISMAN VOTING..ALSO CAN’T WAIT TO SEE THE ENTIRE OFFENSE & DEFENSE GEL TOGETHER AGAINST ANOTHER OPPONENT FOR A CHANGE..SO EXCITED FOR TONIGHT ! OUR BUC’S ARE BACK IN ACTION AGAIN ! GOOO BUUUC’S ! ! !
August 13th, 2022 at 10:41 am
I must say, It is confusing when the Joes aren’t in agreement on issues…..the anti- preseason Joe has been dominant for sure……
I understand the disdain for preseason but I do think there is value…especially to rookies, bubble players and eventual PS players….
I don’t like the idea of season ticket holders getting hosed….and think they should be events for families to attend on the cheap.
August 13th, 2022 at 10:52 am
@ Scotty
You are correct. Trask actually never started in high school… Still got a scholarship from Florida sat on the bench for a few years then took advantage of his opportunity… Sort of a late bloomer but I hope he can do the same here.
Time will tell.
August 13th, 2022 at 11:06 am
Looking forward to seeing some of the youngsters and backups out there. Do they play smart or dumb? Have they learned their assignments?
Want to see the special teams not look like they just fell out of the short bus.
Let’s see Borregalas try a 65 yard FG.
Bubble wrap the starters. Please.
August 13th, 2022 at 11:21 am
Not sure what the issue is. I think the Bucs made it clear and its been reported that Trask got basically no reps in practice during the season and ran the Scout Team Offense. Which everyone should know mimics the opposing O for that weeks game. None of Bowles’ comments are surprising.
August 13th, 2022 at 11:42 am
QBs earn their snaps by impressing the coaching staff. The starter gets the most reps, QB2 gets the second-most, followed by QB3. You have to do things to impress the coaching staff that you deserve more. That means making as favorable an impression as possible via hard work, talking with the coaching staff about plays, studying hard, working on your mechanics, and so on.
August 13th, 2022 at 11:58 am
I’m almost frightened to see Trask play after hearing how little progress he’s made, but I’m excited nonetheless. My eyes are going to be glued to Rachaad White too. From what I’ve read on this here site, he’s looking solid at worst and if he can become something close to a Alvin Kamara type, there won’t be a defense on earth that will be able to consistently stop us.
August 13th, 2022 at 12:17 pm
Perhaps Joe is easily confused. I don’t find any of it confusing.
August 13th, 2022 at 12:29 pm
Nothing is confusing , cnt wait for Trask to shut the joes up ! His last preseason performance was promising 12-14 142yds 1TD
Gobucs!
August 13th, 2022 at 1:17 pm
He still needs enough reps for the game to slow down in his brain.
If he plays through three quarters, it might happen.
I hope he comes out red hot, though, Gabbert is still Gabbert and that is a shaky thing to be, too streaky, almost like Fitz all over again.
August 13th, 2022 at 1:45 pm
“Gabbert is still Gabbert and that is a shaky thing to be, too streaky”
Gabbert is very consistent in practice…its why the Bucs value him so highly. Hes easily the Bucs best backup option for this season.
August 13th, 2022 at 1:58 pm
The preseason is lame and we’ll still know very little about Trask without regular season, game situations. Preseason is playing Call of Duty … real games make defenses bring real guns out – strategically and in terms of matchups, talent and effort. August is for NFL Bowl games.
August 13th, 2022 at 2:24 pm
Gabbert is better in practice due to being in the same system for long time. However he looks horrible in the games. Trask even looked better than him in the last pre season games playing with third and fourth stringers. It is so unfair to keep throwing Trask without starters and expect him to succeed and show progress. By the way, starters will not play tonight either.
August 13th, 2022 at 2:45 pm
Other sites claimed that last year Trask treated the season like a red shirt year, knowing he wasn’t playing, he wasn’t super involved with things and while he wasn’t lazy or anything, he just seemed to go through the motions, knowing no matter what he did, he was going to be riding the bench. It sounded like he just didn’t take things very seriously, didn’t show any signs of leadership, that sort of stuff. Which, is understandable, honestly. I don’t know how, on a team with Tom Brady, you come in as a rookie, a 4th string QB, and act like you own the place, like how most people want their QBs to act.
So, from what Bowles said, I think that actually sort of verifies those reports from last year. Last year they just basically tried to get him mentally into it, get him learning the playbook, etc.
As for this year, they’re working with him physically… that’s a very bad sign to me. That means they’re still working on his throwing motion and trying to get him to naturally put zip on his passes instead of throwing those soft rainbows he threw in college, that will all be INTs in the NFL. Last preseason he did show he can throw with zip, something he never did in college, but his accuracy went way down when he did so, and when he got in trouble he went back to those soft touch passes, and that will get him in trouble. I thought last year they’d have spent the entire year just forcing him in practice to throw with zip over and over and over again to try to break him from thinking this is still UF. If they’re still having to work on that, oh boy.
August 13th, 2022 at 2:52 pm
I’m sure the only way we’ll know if Trask is good is by throwing him to the wolves.
August 13th, 2022 at 2:55 pm
If Brady goes down, Gabbert will soon after follow. He simply cannot stay healthy.
That’s when Trask will get a shot…and he’ll likely have growing pains.
August 13th, 2022 at 5:33 pm
All I am saying, is give Trask a chance! This message was sung by an old Beatles fan. And I like an under dog. He is our only real hope if Brady goes down slim though it may be. The coaches better prep him this preseason.