Bruce Arians Responds (Again) To Reported Clashes With Tom Brady
April 9th, 2022
YouTube show appearance.
Joe apologizes up front for this.
Why is Joe apologizing? For bringing to light a video clip with the notorious Dan Sileo.
Joe has nothing personal against Sileo. But as a sports radio host, Joe will just be polite and say Sileo was grossly irresponsible. Well, apparently Sileo hosts a YouTube show and he had former Bucs Super Bowl-winning coach Bucco Bruce Arians on as Arians was in the middle of his west coast golf swing prepping for the NFL draft.
(Arians looks quite rested and relaxed.)
Sileo brought up the alleged friction between Tom Brady and Arians. Gas was thrown on the fire about these rumors when former Brady teammate from their Belicheats days, Rich Ohrnberger, who now works sports radio in San Diego, claimed he had a solid source inside the Bucs locker room tell him that Brady was upset with Arians.
(Joe guesses the source is Bucs assistant coach A.Q. Shipley, who was Ohrnberger’s roommate at Penn State.)
Arians noted one reason Ohrnberger’s report is nonsense is that, per Ohrnberger, Brady was steamed because Arians would change the gameplan late in the week. Arians said that is baloney because Brady had the right take out any play from the proposed playsheet he did not like. So it wasn’t like Arians forced Brady to run a gameplan he didn’t want.
Arians isn’t bluffing about this. He did the same thing with Mr. Entertainment, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, Andrew Luck, Ben Roethlisberger and Joe suspects also with Carson Palmer and Peyton Manning.
Joe will ask again, what the hell was Brady so peeved about (if you believe the rumors)? He led the league in passing and the previous season won the Super Bowl. What exactly was there to be p!ssed about? Everything seemed to be working just fine.
“I had to really laugh at Rich’s [Ohrnberger] thing…”
– @BruceArians on @Ohrnberger claims of Tom Brady, and him having a dysfunctional relationship pic.twitter.com/nddLRPjEZC
— JAKIB Media Sports (@JAKIBMedia) April 7, 2022
April 9th, 2022 at 8:59 am
And yet, the purveyors of this nonsense will continue to push their BS narrative. One truly has to wonder what their purpose is. It’s hard to believe that they are truly fans of the Bucs!
April 9th, 2022 at 9:04 am
If he was mad about anything, it was how AB was handled. But is that enough to force BA out? I’d say no. AB cost the team by not paying his debt and has spent the past few months trashing Brady and the Bucs. If Brady forced Arians out over that loser, then he’s gone insane. My guess is that a radio guy needs to be relevant, and Florio is happy to push conspiracies during the offseason
April 9th, 2022 at 9:08 am
AB-TB-BA
Devil is in those details
April 9th, 2022 at 9:20 am
BA is a decelerator…….to BL, Brady….that’s his style. He’s often been criticized for riding around on his cart overseeing…..accused of not being involved…..and all of the sudden….he has a red pen nixing plays……didn’t happen.
For those who are happy BA is out the door….be careful what you wish for.
I think all of this is Brady thinking out loud….expressing normal frustrations…..and someone around him mistook it for a rift with BA…..that’s how this ridiculous never-ending fake controversy got started…..
April 9th, 2022 at 9:22 am
You will never know and who cares!
April 9th, 2022 at 9:42 am
Sure, it worked well often, so you got lots of stats for a season, BUT
… you could imagine Brady being frustrated when good defenses took away the Arians-style offense and left him with nowhere to go. Because when that happens he gets HIT.
April 9th, 2022 at 9:54 am
It’s frustrated Pats fans like that fraud List that are still butt hurt that the best players their team ever had prefer to play for the Bucs and help us win as their team and coach become irrelevant in the football world
April 9th, 2022 at 10:07 am
Pushing false narratives is one thing, and sadly it’s commonplace these days. But pushing false narratives that absolutely make no sense is beyond belief.
Wait, I take that back. It’s 2022.
There’s a brutal war in Eastern Europe—an anachronism so violent it is linked to the horrors of WWII.
Many, despite 100% evidence to the contrary, still think the earth is flat.
An actor slaps another actor for making fun of his wife and it makes national news when nobody should care.
America is focused on a Tiger who was seen hobbling around a golf course.
And dogs and cats are now sleeping together.
Guess anything goes in these times …
April 9th, 2022 at 10:08 am
TB12 can call an audible to get to any play in the playbook at the line , so much like most of Sileos’ reporting-RUBBISH
April 9th, 2022 at 10:13 am
Dan Sileo…who is next Lamar Thomas ?
April 9th, 2022 at 10:19 am
This is a new age NFL. Who knows what peed Brady. All these players are emotion driven roller-coasters. Hard to watch. Brady is no different the Wilson, Roger’s, Deebo, Kyle etc. They are all peeing in the diapers that needs to be changed yearly
April 9th, 2022 at 10:19 am
Speculation is not news. I wish some of these speculating reporters would only report the news and not hyperbole. GOBUCS!
April 9th, 2022 at 10:21 am
off seaon …. BS…. need to create a story to be relevant…
April 9th, 2022 at 10:21 am
A non story at this point. Apology accepted.
April 9th, 2022 at 10:22 am
And it all it really takes is for another player to get a raise on aentirely different
team for a player to unfollow a team on Instagram and draw trade rumors and create controversy.
April 9th, 2022 at 10:26 am
hey Joe did i miss it or did you not talk about ….
Bucs Sign Fred Johnson, Bolster OL Depth….. to rebuild their offensive line depth on Monday 4/4/22 , signing former Bengals offensive lineman Fred Johnson, who made starts at both tackle spots for Cincinnati over the past two years
April 9th, 2022 at 10:27 am
All this media chatter about Tom Brady in a trench coat on the docks ordering a “hit” on Arians is ridiculous. Let’s be real: Tom Brady is an absolute professional (almost to an unhealthy degree; scratch that – absolutely to an unhealthy degree). He’s not one to pout and stomp his feet and start going around stabbing people in the back, ruining careers, because his feelings are hurt.
April 9th, 2022 at 10:34 am
These so called sports journalists need to be writing scripts for soap operas bunch of tabloid writers
April 9th, 2022 at 10:41 am
The media has beef with both Brady and BA. Best thing to do is to pit them against each other so that regardless of the end result this season, they have leverage to punish the one with the less perceived success. Boston is still sore that Brady left, and the LA media market is upset because their SB champs are not the media darlings. This is definitely a personality bias, and all because a 45 yo man decided to come back for one more year to play football.
April 9th, 2022 at 10:44 am
Like anything in life, the quality of sports reporting is no different than anything else – The Cream always rises to the top which are the very few in anything in life.
April 9th, 2022 at 10:52 am
With the reports about both Brady and Sean Peyton going to the Phil’s next season I keep wondering how the NFL could not be investigating Phins for tampering. Both are still under contract to their teams and this could not be happening without some form of communication between the parties. And couple that with the claims of their ex-HC and there would appear to be a pattern.
April 9th, 2022 at 10:55 am
I liked Sileo when he was local but that Madoff story was out of line.
April 9th, 2022 at 10:55 am
Ben Volin Boston Globe, Mike Florio PFT, Skip Bayless, Colin Cowherd Fox Sports and multiple other outlets reported Brady was intending on leaving for Miami after 2021, he was to be given minority stake and to work with Sean Peyton, story states Brady didn’t trust BA and wanted a better coach and it was an amazing business move for him to setup NFL connection for life as player owner.
Flores scandal and Bucs refusal to trade Tom to Miami/49ers scuttled
the deal which would’ve set Brady up to become a billionaire someday. Over 2 seasons BA criticized Brady to the media at least 8x, in 20y Bill did it once publicly to the media.
Toms theme of the season is “unfinished business”
April 9th, 2022 at 11:07 am
At one of the last games, Arians attempted to bench Brady, preventing Brady from throwing a pass to Groc and get a $1M bonus that was written in his contract.
That was certainly a breaking point for Brady, if not Groc himself.
April 9th, 2022 at 11:10 am
so is TB12 leaving Tampa for Miami next year?
April 9th, 2022 at 11:11 am
For the-umpteenth time- who really gives a squat at this point? It’s all yesterdays news. Let’s look forward to the draft, new signings and football! We have a new head coach and a team to prepare for another Super Bowl run. Why are so many so damn concerned about what did or did not happen yesterday? It has zero effect on what we need to be concerned about today. Bury this crap for Gods sake! I was almost hit by a car while crossing the street yesterday. Was it my fault or the drivers? NOBODY CARES
April 9th, 2022 at 11:12 am
You’re really not making the best name for yourself as local professional Bucs analyst , Joe. Are you just trying to get Florio to use JBF Twitter posts? That guys an idiot to boot on the subject and it’s saddening how you have no faith Brady will be with the Bucs after this year.
Offseason are slow, but we have to stop this on JBF.
April 9th, 2022 at 11:57 am
Thank you Dan Sileo 🙏 media (especially MSM) is the worst and the root of most problems, especially manufactured, these days.
The media thinks they are the most astute and in integrity people out there, yet they really don’t understand it anymore and still manufacture sh!t and create stuff from nowhere for their own gain and well-being.
MSM is the worst kind of evil these days.
You media and Journalist really pooped the bed w/ this whole situation
April 9th, 2022 at 11:58 am
All this offseason nonsense about Brady and Arians has me yearning for the days when we didn’t have a celebrity QB. I’ll ride this Brady thing as long as he’s here, and enjoy the success… but I’m looking forward to less drama.
April 9th, 2022 at 11:58 am
I do not believe the red pen theory but some fallout I do believe took place in how impulsive the AB situation was handled. TB12 had invested quite a bit in AB and I would have been kind of angry if I was in that situation also after doing all of that work with AB just to have Arians run him off in the heat of the moment where a cooler head should have prevailed. Just my opinion though based on how I think I would have felt if I were in TB12 shoes.
April 9th, 2022 at 12:12 pm
More articles about the draft and less on soap opera BS.
April 9th, 2022 at 12:17 pm
You find scandal where you want to and try to. Some of you guys are worse than a bunch of gossipy women. BTW, I don’t care if you think that’s sexist.
April 9th, 2022 at 12:34 pm
All this media chatter about Tom Brady in a trench coat on the docks ordering a “hit” on Arians is ridiculous.
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Would that happen to be the same well-cut, stylish trench coat I saw on page 63 of TB’s newest clothing line catalog?
That’s a nice coat and Tommy looked great sporting it like he was Horatio CSI. while being bathed in golden light, looking off to the left, slightly disinterested…..
April 9th, 2022 at 12:52 pm
Don’t you just love people who sight sport’s opinion guys like Mike Florio, Colin Cowherd, Skip Bayless as reporters. SMH
Hello McFly, there job is to generate buzz, clicks, likes and dislikes. That makes them money $$$$$$.
Opinion guys use unnamed sources and people just believe them.
Sorry, if you’re an opinion guy I need to know who your source is before I believe what you are saying is nothing more than an attempt to drive traffic to your site.
April 9th, 2022 at 1:00 pm
Florio keeps pushing the Miami Dolphins conspiracy theory. He suggests that Sean Payton was going to coach the Dolphins with Tom Brady at QB, who Stephen Ross was willing to offer Brady a share of ownership. But the whole plan blew up when Brian Flores filed his lawsuit alleging discrimination and that he was ordered by Ross to intentionally throw games.
That’s quite the conspiracy. There is so much in all of that that is illegal it’s not even funny. Not only is Ross ordering his coach to tank games a federal crime, but all this suggests tampering by the Dolphins. Would Brady be stupid enough to get involved in such shady dealings? Unless he hated Arians that much and saw this as a way out?
Florio thinks that because the Miami deal blew up and nothing was happening on the San Francisco front, Brady reluctantly came back to the Bucs in order to play out the final year of his contract and become a free agent next year.
April 9th, 2022 at 1:21 pm
There was obviously something to the story since Brady has never denied it. I believe it was to lax an environment for Brady and it went against everything he stands for and it irritated him. Changing a game plan is not the same as cutting out a few plays. Sorry but I don’t believe anything BA says, he’s a proven fabricator.
April 9th, 2022 at 1:23 pm
This false narrative is pushed by Frustrated Pats fans and Brady jock riders. It’s really a big nothing burger. So what if the Head Coach used a red pen to rule out plays…. His job as head coach is to run his team how he thinks is best for the team, not bow down to a diva QB and his fans. So what if Brady didn’t like it. His job is to run the plays the coaching staff instructs him to run. Sure given he is one of the greatest QB’s of all time and his level of experience he should be trusted to give input and switch out of plays he senses won’t be successful. However none of that means he has to love the Coach personally. It was clear he didn’t love Belicheck, and he didn’t run Belicheck or the Patriots. He simply did his job and played well.
April 9th, 2022 at 1:27 pm
“You’re not making the best name for yourself as local professional Bucs analyst, Joe. Are you just trying to get Florio to use JBF Twitter posts?”
Florio links to Joe because this is the best Bucs site in the world.
Nothing wrong with being at the top of the game.
I have disagreed with Joe’s editorial stance on the BA/Brady saga, but that doesn’t mean the entire story is fake news. The story is real.
Some of you don’t understand how nice it is to be relevant. Good chance this team slides into irrelevancy after this year. ENJOY IT WHILE IT LASTS. ENJOY THE DRAMA. Football is for entertainment. There are worse things in the world than the best QB in history booting his coach in an attempt to bring home ANOTHER Super Bowl. I’m here for the show. I will try to savor every minute of it while it lasts.
April 9th, 2022 at 1:42 pm
And Anonymous the BA depends rider’s like yourself are simply in denial. Everything was just hunky dorey. Brady retired because of Giselle and 40 days later her feelings changed and BA retired because he wanted to take care of his step child Bowles. Does it fing matter? Why is BA still in the limelight? Nevermind I know, because he has to be.
April 9th, 2022 at 2:58 pm
Sean Payton is still under contract and his rights are owned by the New Orleans Saints.
If Gruden was gotten for two 1’s and two 2’s and $8 million, never having won a Super Bowl.
What would a team have to cough up in order to get Super Bowl Winning Peyton from the Saints?
But yeah, believe some anonymous source that a sports opinion personality is telling you that he heard from as you click on their site and make them rich.
April 9th, 2022 at 3:25 pm
So Belleclown in a previous post you boasted about your athletic scholarship, this is how I know you are a clown and full of shat seeing how D3 schools don’t give out athletic scholarships. Also I find it hard to believe any school would provide you with a merit scholarship if you express yourself by writing posts like, ” if Gruden was gotten…” you’re a poser Belleclown.
April 9th, 2022 at 3:32 pm
@Race!ist
Since you took it off topic, anything goes.
In a previous post you nicknamed Bucs Head Coach a name that references human physical waste, something people of color have heard our skin color compared to for years.
I said that the nickname was racially offensive to people of color, and you said that m asking racially offensive jokes are okay because you also make fun of white people too.
At least you didn’t say that some of your best friends are black. SMH
You’re a rac!st @Race!ist.
April 9th, 2022 at 3:34 pm
@Race!ist
Since you took it off topic, anything goes.
In a previous post you nicknamed Bucs Head Coach Todd Bowles a name that references human physical waste, something people of color have heard our skin color compared to for years.
I said that the nickname was racially offensive to people of color, and you said that making racially offensive jokes are okay because you also make fun of white people too.
At least you didn’t say that some of your best friends are black. SMH
You’re a rac!st @Race!ist.
April 9th, 2022 at 3:41 pm
@Race!ist
Imitation is flattery.
I’ve been calling you a two faced lyin cheating poser for quite some time.
I think it’s awesome that you are copying me and using my 80’s lingo!
Still waiting to hear why it is that you have a weird word association that when you see the word goat that you think of a person licking them?
Your trash talk game is weak. You got no swag. It’s how I know you never played @Race!ist.
April 9th, 2022 at 3:44 pm
Belleclown, as usual you avoid the point of the post and choose to twist it into something so obtuse you’ve left many on this site scratching their heads. If you some how compare yourself to the term Toilet Bowls, I’m sorry to say you have more of a problem than I thought you had. I will ask that you refrain from verbally attacking those with ADHD and special needs, not only for me but show a little respect for the others that enjoy reading Joe’s blog who may find you offensive.
April 9th, 2022 at 4:37 pm
@List
Todd Bowles is an African American.
African Americans have heard our skin color compared to human physical waste for many years.
Toilets store human physical waste and dispose of human physical waste.
Nobody on this site likes you. They all think you’re a joke.
You’re a coward too, because you would never call Todd Bowles that nickname to his face.
Training camp is open to the public this year.
You’ll have your chance to call Todd Bowles you nickname for him as everyone, including the media, has their phones and cameras recording TB12’s last season.
April 9th, 2022 at 5:02 pm
I call him Toilet Bowls because of his bad coaching especially his last call. I have yet to see a fight break out in Lowes or Home Depot when a customer asked where would I find a toilet bowl? You’re an idiot (is that to a bias term in you sick world?) I’ll tell you what when CNN claims it’s offensive then I won’t use the term and next time I need one I will ask the clerk, can you tell me where I can find the lavatory? Or is that offensive to? If someone is referring a person of color to a product that disposes of human waste BECAUSE OF THEIR COLOR, they are sick, like those who verbally attack ADHD and special needs people.
April 9th, 2022 at 5:02 pm
@List
The topic that I was posting to this article about the rumored BA/TB12 situation were this:
1) Sean Payton is under contract
2) To get Sean Payton you will need to pay more than what the Bucs paid for Gruden when they got him for two 1’s, two 2’s and $8,000,000 twenty years ago.
3) Because of that SLIGHT detail this rumor is dubious at best.
4) NFL ownership is a long drawn out process that doesn’t happen overnight, must be voted. It can’t just be negotiated and given by 1 owner and because of that MINOR detail this rumor is dubious at best.
5) Not trusting Colin Cowherd, Skip Bayless and Mike Florio dubious unnamed sources. The only thing Joe is doing is reporting that this is a story, which he has to do, but Joe has never said wether it’s true or not. When Joe or Ira reports whether it’s true or not, then that’s when I will believe it as Joe and Ira have journalistic integrity in my book and are way more connected with the Bucs than those talking heads.
You didn’t address any of those above topics.
Your response to me was off topic as you wrote about my college playing career, lacked focus on the topic, did not pay attention to anything I wrote about the topic, disorganized, and hard to follow because of that.
All of those are literal medical signs of ADHD.
April 9th, 2022 at 5:03 pm
Florio, Coward and the other liars are an embarrassment to sports reporting. Spewing their opinions as facts? I know alot of news reporters that do that all day every day. Pathetic.
April 9th, 2022 at 5:20 pm
Calling an object in Lowes or Home Depot it’s proper name is never offensive.
Calling a person in Home Depot an object that they are not is incorrect.
Calling a person of color in Home Depot an object whose sole function is storing and disposing of human physical waste is extremely offensive when you know that people of color’s skin has offensively been compared to that FOR YEARS.
There’s no defense for it. Stop.
If you called Todd Bowles your nickname in front of ESPN, Fox Sports, Joe, TB12, ME13, White, Godwin, Wirfs, Mason, Smith, Lenny, Dean, Davis, LVD, children of all colors with their families of all colors, everybody with their iPhones recording at training camp for TB12’s last dance, etc… I can guarantee you that the response would not be positive.
Lucky for you @List, you have that opportunity this training camp as it is open to the fans to prove your point that it’s no big deal.
Can’t wait. If it’s no big deal, then you won’t have a problem doing it.
But you know that it is, you know that it would be a problem for you, so like a coward you won’t do it.
April 9th, 2022 at 5:26 pm
Goes to show ya what I know, haven’t ever heard that comparison before, I guess one would have to think that way. Sorry other readers you got dragged into Belleclown’s stupid post like I did. Let’s all congratulate him for being the only D3 football player to EVER receive an athletic scholarships, he must be some athlete. POSER!!! I’m done with this BS (can I refer to that) back and forth.
April 9th, 2022 at 5:56 pm
That fraud List is not worth responding to Bro. he clearly knows nothing about football and is not even a Bucs fan. He is a frustrated patriots fan who has to troll a Bucs site because his team is so irrelevant there is no activity on their board. like most of his ilk, the thought of Coach Bowles or or Leftwich being in charge of his boy offends his inbred sense of superiority. But the facts are what they are, history has proven for coaches like them to get an opportunity they have to be three times better qualified than their counterparts yet will never be given the credit they deserve. its all good, the guy he calls “toilet” is a NFL Coach living his dream and he is a just a hater who cant even stay on his home teams board because they suck, so he comes here to spread hate.
April 9th, 2022 at 5:57 pm
@List
You dragged it there because you went off topic.
I wish you were done with me. You’ve said it before, but you have a hard time being organized and remembering what you wrote.
Trust me, our skin color has been compared to human physical waste.
@List, I never said I was a D3 scholarship athlete from the Muck. You said that about me, which is wrong, but there you go forgetting things.
Thank you for using my terms! The 80’s were awesome!
April 9th, 2022 at 6:25 pm
The name DumbBelle fits, you had to make me do it, you couldn’t let it go!
BelleGladeBuc Says:
April 7th, 2022 at 6:12 pm
MANY people, including me, who played in college were cursed out by their coach and told to get off the field and that they were taking our scholarship and they were giving it to someone that wasn’t as sorry at football as us.
POSER!!!
April 9th, 2022 at 6:39 pm
@List
You said that you were done with me. What gives? Still can’t remember what you wrote?
Your response quoting me about my college playing career, lacked focus on the topic, did not pay attention to anything I wrote about the topic, disorganized, and hard to follow because of that.
Where in what I wrote did I state what level of college football that I played for.
Reading is hard for you, isn’t it @List.
D1 and D1AA scholarships are annual. There is no such thing as a 4 year scholarship.
For example, Caleb Williams (who transferred from Oklahoma to USC this off-season) scholarship at Oklahoma is now available to be awarded to another person at OU.
Sorry that you didn’t know. Another reason why we all know you are a poser and that you never played ball @List.
April 9th, 2022 at 7:34 pm
Anyone who believes Brady didn’t push Arians out isn’t worth arguing with. You are denying the obvious. The reports of a schematic schism between the two were reported through back channels during the Brady’s first year with the team. Arians said multiple times that he was calling plays this year, and coaching until he couldn’t. If Arians was trying to get bowles the job, why didn’t he retire after the season, instead of letting him interview? It’s all preposterous. Twisting yourselves into a pretzel to make an argument is fanboyism. Joe, Barry Switzer won a Superbowl with a loaded roster too, do you consider him a great coach? Look what happened to Dallas the next year. If last season didn’t prove that BA lost command of his team, nothing will. Smacking players, and emotional outbursts are the mark of a deranged mind
April 9th, 2022 at 7:46 pm
BTW claiming you played pro, or high level collegiate football on the internet, is no different than saying you’re Napoleon Bonaparte. While I did play on a practice squad for an NFL franchise, I certainly wouldn’t use that as credence to justify my opinions on the league.
April 9th, 2022 at 7:56 pm
This thread is like watching a confrontation of morons on Jerry Springer. You just watch it unfold and feel sorry for the trailer trash,
April 9th, 2022 at 8:05 pm
@GOB
When you take the shot at the king, you better take him down.
Sorry @GOB, you fail. You don’t know much about football.
Barry Switzer was a great head coach in the NFL, taking the Cowboys to the playoffs in 3 out of his 4 seasons, winning one Super Bowl, having 3 winning seasons with a record of 40 – 24.
The first year Barry Switzer took over for Jimmy Jonhnson he coached the Cowboys stacked roster to a 12-4 record and the Cowboys made it to the NFC Championship Game.
Barry Switzer took a retooled Cowboys roster his second season and won the Super Bowl.
Barry Switzer’s third year, where the Cowboys were the defending Super Bowl Champions, Switzer coached the Cowboys to a 10-6 record where the Cowboys made the Divisional Round of the playoffs.
@GOB, making the Divisional Round of the playoffs is a great season as a head coach.
Why @GOB are you such a fricken idiot, goosh, claiming that Barry Switzer had a bad year after coaching the Cowboys to a Super Bowl Championship the year prior?
Goosh, I don’t believe you ever played football @GOB with how wrong you were about the facts concerning Barry Switzer. JEEZE!
April 9th, 2022 at 8:11 pm
Some say Brady got upset over how the team was run…a more laid back coaching approach compared to the military-style tight ship Belichick runs. But Brady knew what he was getting into when he came here. So Brady has no one to blame but himself. So that’s his own fault.
And if this is true, he likely won’t be happy with Bowles either. Bowles is going to be more hands on than Arians. So it will seem like he’s much more invested. But he’s not a guy that’s going to get up and scream in your face. I actually don’t see much change at all in the style of how the team is run. According to what many have said, Bowles and Leftwich have been the ones pretty much running the team anyway the last few years. So if Brady is upset about the coaching styles, it’s not likely to improve.
April 9th, 2022 at 8:14 pm
@sasquatch
It’s hard when you deal with low football UQ people who have never played the game like @Lust and @GOB clearly have not.
I’m doing my best to take it back to the topic of football, but I’ve read many a back and forth between you and other posters on this site that definitely was not Bucs/football related at all and definitely got into name calling.
People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones @sasquatch
April 9th, 2022 at 8:30 pm
@Jerry
This is the second shot that Todd Bowles has at being a NFL Head Coach.
That doesn’t happen that often for African Americans in the NFL unlike their whit coaching counterparts.
The NFL has had over 500 head coaches in its history, with only 24 of them ever being African American.
Of those 24, only 7 were given a second chance, with Todd Bowles being on of them.
Only 1 African American Coach, HOF Coach Fritz Pollard, was given more than 2 chances to be a Head Coach for an NFL franchise, and that was back in the 1920’s when the NFL then was not what it is now.
Todd Bowles knows this.
I’m willing to bet that Todd Bowles will be much more hands on and will manage every aspect of the team much more closely, probably more in line with Bellicheck. Todd Bowles knows that this is his last shot.
April 9th, 2022 at 8:31 pm
Belle, you probably could’ve coached that cowboys team to a championship. By retooling I’m sure you meant signing Deion Sanders in 95, the greatest cover corner to ever play. That team was on autopilot to win three more titles, until your boy Switzer screwed thing up. The crack smoking and boundless prostitutes were endemic of Switzer’s coaching style. Jimmy Johnson would’ve never allowed things to get so out of control. Ask Troy Aikman, he’ll tell you the same.
What King are you referring to? The aged alcoholic BA. I’m sure smacking players and emotional outbursts are the marks of a king. No it’s you sir who probably didn’t play football. My post concussion syndrome, two plastic knees and a neck that looks like Peyton Manning reminds me every day.
April 9th, 2022 at 9:00 pm
@GOB
You inferred in your writing that the season after Barry Switzer coached the Cowboys to the NFL Chsmpionshio that they had a bad season.
That’s incorrect.
The Cowboys with Barry Switzer as the Head Coach made it to the Divisional Round of the playoffs, losing to a great Carolina Panthers team that all of us Bucs fans can attest we’re really good.
You say Jimmy Johnson wouldn’t allow things to get out of control? SMH
That shows how ignorant about football that you are.
Many famous/HOFers have talked about their crazy days at UM with Jimmy Johnson as their head coach with Uncle Luke. 2 Live Crew was there when Jimmy was there. I personally was there to witness that. Drugs, guns, gangs, you name it. Ever heard of Catholics vs Convicts?
There have been 3 ESPN documentaries about the corruption and lawlessness that took place at UM, with Jimmy Johnson as there head coach for many of it.
The Dallas Cowboys had a house that was nicknamed the “White House” in Dallas where players partied and did cocaine while Jimmy Johnson was there head coach.
You’re a joke @GOB.
Everybody knows that Jimmy Johnson was the exact polar opposite of a Bear Bryant/Bill Bellicheck type coach.
Jimmy Johnson very famously stated that Michael Irvin could show up late and hungover and he was cool with it, but if you were just a special team player he’d cut you because you treat stats differently than the rest of the players.
April 9th, 2022 at 9:37 pm
@GOB
You’re right, the same Jimmy Johnson who allowed Charles Haley to attend team meetings naked while Haley played with his magic wand while talking about players wives and girlfriends and looking at motivational material for his wand waving would never have allowed things to get out of control.
Yeah, you know football, sure you do @GOB. SMH
April 9th, 2022 at 9:45 pm
I’m sure you personally witnessed that Belle, are you Nate newton? Yup I saw the 30/30, like everyone else. Running a professional football team is much different than coaching a bunch of college kids. Again, ask Troy Aikman. I’m essentially echoing his comments. Bill belichick is one of the biggest jimmy Johnson sycophants on the planet you dope. They fish in the off-season all the time. Bill loves the guy. If you knew anything about the game, instead of reading stories, you’d know that. Dumbass
April 9th, 2022 at 9:50 pm
I’m sure you played. Give GOB your name so I can look you up. Listnfrmafar has you about right.
April 9th, 2022 at 9:56 pm
Belle has all the earmarks of a frustrated highschool scrub, who’s girlfriend got banged by the QB.
April 9th, 2022 at 10:13 pm
The only thing I can think of why Brady looked so mad leaving that game is the defense in 4 plays made the offenses epic comeback all for naught and the coaching staff didn’t adjust more protection once Ali was gone. Brady couldn’t do anything because the Rams front four was force feeding our line and they couldn’t block them. We score one td in the first half that game was won. No adjustments killed the offense
April 9th, 2022 at 10:44 pm
@GOB
Us people of color don’t like giving out our names to anonymous people on the internet who sympathize with people who don’t like our race like you and @List.
Weird how you popped up and @List went ghost. Weird how you say the same things as him, right. What a coincidence, right?
Tell you what, come to the Muck Bowl and call any of us colored people there Toilet Bowel and I will meet you after that. Sound good?
April 9th, 2022 at 11:53 pm
Again the human factor: Arians wouldn’t be doing this and wouldn’t be able to handle this all if Brady forced him out. I also know joe you said Brady should call this out as false and I agree but he won’t because it won’t do anything. It was the same as last year when we were 7-5 on our bye week before the Vikings when everybody was saying there was friction and Arians needed to go and Brady was pissed. We all know that turned out
April 10th, 2022 at 4:33 am
i always liked dan sileo on the radio in an early morning slot back in the days…
nice bucs pennant hanging in the back there
April 10th, 2022 at 7:35 am
@GOB
Hey everyone, @GOB says that because Bill Bellicheck and Jimmy Johnson are fishing buddies that Bellicheck would be cool with Charles Haley attending team meetings naked and playing with his magic wand while looking at motivational material and talking about other players wives and girlfriends until his wand exploded. Jimmy Johnson let Charles Haley do that in team meetings, so you know that Bellicheck would too because he and Jimmy are best friends.
Hey everybody, @GOB/aka@List says that Jimmy Johnson would cut a superstar player after a couple of weeks of that superstar player being on his roster like Bellicheck did with AB. @GOB/aka@List says that Jimmy Johnson wouldn’t tolerate a player like AB’s off field problems because Jimmy and Bellicheck are fishing buddies.
Hey everybody, @GOB/aka@List says that
Hey everybody, @GOB/aka@List, says that Bill Bellicheck would be cool with his players owning a house in their community that was used for drugs and patty’s because Jimmy Johnson let that happen when he was the coach of the Cowboys and fishing buddies do everything alike.
Hey everybody, @GOB/aka@List says that Jimmy Johnson would throw out one his players business partners from the team facilities just like Bellicheck did with TB12’s business partner at the Patriots because Jimmy and Bill are BFF’s.
Hey everybody, @GOB/aka@List says that Bill Bellicheck would be cool with letting a business partner be a part of the team like Jimmy did at UM with Uncle Luke and 2 Live Crew because Jimmy and Bill are one in the same.
I guess Troy Aikman didn’t talk to you about a lot of that stuff. Weird.
You’re a joke, @GOB/aka@List
April 10th, 2022 at 7:54 am
GOB
Hey everyone, @GOB says that because Bill Bellicheck and Jimmy Johnson are fishing buddies that Bellicheck would be cool with Charles Haley attending team meetings naked and playing with his magic wand while looking at motivational material and talking about other players wives and girlfriends until his wand exploded. Jimmy Johnson let Charles Haley do that in team meetings, so you know that Bellicheck would too because he and Jimmy are best friends.
Hey everybody, @GOB/aka@List says that Jimmy Johnson would cut a superstar player after a couple of weeks of that superstar player being on his roster like Bellicheck did with AB. @GOB/aka@List says that Jimmy Johnson wouldn’t tolerate a player like AB’s off field problems because Jimmy and Bellicheck are fishing buddies.
Hey everybody, @GOB/aka@List says that Bill Bellicheck would be okay with a player showing up to practices and meetings late and hungover just like Jimmy did with Michael Irvin because Bill and Jimmy like to fish together.
Hey everybody, @GOB/aka@List, says that Bill Bellicheck would be cool with his players owning a house in their community that was used for drugs and patty’s because Jimmy Johnson let that happen when he was the coach of the Cowboys and fishing buddies do everything alike.
Hey everybody, @GOB/aka@List says that Jimmy Johnson would throw out one his players business partners from the team facilities just like Bellicheck did with TB12’s business partner at the Patriots because Jimmy and Bill are BFF’s.
Hey everybody, @GOB/aka@List says that Bill Bellicheck would be cool with letting a business partner be a part of the team like Jimmy did at UM with Uncle Luke and 2 Live Crew because Jimmy and Bill are one in the same.
I guess Troy Aikman didn’t talk to you about a lot of that stuff. Weird.
I can’t wait to meet you at the Muck Bowl @GOB/akaList. Just call anybody in the crowd at the tailgate or the game Toilet Bowl and I’ll meet you after the crowd around you disperses.
You’re a joke, @GOB/aka@List
April 10th, 2022 at 8:28 am
GOB, you are wasting your time with this idiot. I feel ya, I have to walk sideways down the stairs every morning. Clearly Belleclown never jammed any fingers or he wouldn’t be running his mouth off through this blog. When he can’t rebut you he goes right to the race card even though he has NO idea if you’re black or white. You’re arguing with apparently NOW because he changed his story a D1 National Champion because I called him out on his BS D3 scholarship. So that makes him a player on one of 7 teams, just look for the biggest ahole and you’ll find him. GOB, don’t waste you’re time and congrats on getting to that next level, it’s a tough road. DumbBelle, I believe GOB, show him some respect.
April 10th, 2022 at 8:49 am
@List/aka@GOB
You’re a liar.
I never wrote anything about the level of college ball I played at.
You lie about that and you lie about playing ball.
No surprise as you’re a two faced cheating Patriot fan rooting for the Bucs.
Can’t wait to hear you calling African American Head Football Coach of the Tampa Bay Bucs Todd Bowels a Toilet at the open to the fans training camp this year.
April 10th, 2022 at 8:56 am
@List/akaGOB
Bill Bellicheck’s Coaching Style = Jimmy Johnson’s Coaching Style, because they are fishing buddies and Troy Aikman told you so, right?
HAHAHA 🤣
Can’t wait to hear you calling African American Head Football Coach of the Tampa Bay Bucs Todd Bowels a Toilet at the open to the fans training camp this year.
HAHAHA 🤣
April 10th, 2022 at 10:02 am
Is A.Q. Shipley still a coach with the Bucs? If he is and the Bucs think that this is where all the BS is coming from they need to fire his ass!
April 10th, 2022 at 10:32 am
Belleclown, so you never wrote you were in a National Championship game and you have a ring. So what level is that? Is it a flag football league. If it’s D1 we have now narrowed it down to a guard on 7 National Championship teams, BS. Until Toilet Bowles redeems himself from the Rams debacle, he is still a shatty coach IMO. If you chose to take this statement as a personal insult, too bad, take the chip off your shoulder, I am referring to his coaching ability. I see you listed stats about black NFL coaches, what you failed to mention is Dungy could come out of retirement and have a job tomorrow, how many white applicants have been turned away, how many black coaches applied, how jobs are actually available, guys like Belichick, Reid, Tomlin,, Carrol, Payton etc.have held these jobs for 10 plus years and most of all Ron Rivera and Saleb are minorities, I guess they don’t count to you. 15-20yrs ago absolutely, what rule can you put in place to make a prejudice billionaire hire someone he doesn’t want to. FYI, only 12.teams have not hired minority coaches, Pat’s being one but again Belichick has held his job for 23 yrs and his predecessor was Parcels, two pretty good coaches, same with Carrol in Seattle. Hopefully the tables turn.
April 10th, 2022 at 11:18 am
D1 and D1AA all give 1 year athletic scholarships and both play for a national title @List.
April 10th, 2022 at 11:45 am
@List
The chips on our shoulder because we all have been told to wait since the 1988 when we were young and Art Shell was the 1st African American Head Football Coach hired in the modern NFL, that more opportunities would come.
We also endured a lot of horrible things said and done to us.
One of my favorites is hearing people compliment me on how well I talk, as well as my children or wife. That’s just one of a ton of examples I could give you. They get progressively worse.
I apologize about not remembering Rivera and Saleb.
Now we are old and grey. We have grandchildren now and see our time on Earth coming to a close. Now 34 years later since Art Shell became the Raiders Head Coach in 1988, only 24 African Americans/People of Color have been given NFL Head Coaching opportunities during that time. I know you know that that isn’t good enough @List.
I’m encouraged that at least you recognize that the tables need to be turned.
April 10th, 2022 at 12:31 pm
Yes but you cannot compare 1988 to 1968 to 1928 and prior, look at the Roman’s and the disgusting things they did to all races.What our ancestors have done is clearly not acceptable in today’s world and in most, grant it far from ALL, I hope majority doesn’t see black or another race versus white. My kids are in there mid 20’s and early 30’s race discrimination doesn’t exist to them or doesn’t seem to. No one knows if Flores was led on because of race the Giants could of been waiting on an answer from their 1st choice and Flores was to be brought in as a back up, or it could of been the flawed Rooney rule, which is sad for both sides. As the generations go by it appears there is less and less discrimination, we may not see it but maybe someday it will be a thing of the past. You’re still a POSER! The collegic National Championships didn’t evolve until 2014.
April 10th, 2022 at 1:00 pm
Sorry @List, you’re wrong again.
D1AA has been having a March Madness like football playoff forever to determine the D1AA national champion.
For example, Jim Tressel as the Youngstown State Head Coach won the D1AA National Championship in the D1AA playoffs in 1991, 1993, 1994, and 1997.
D1AA then = FCS now