Theisman, Testaverde Want Offensive Bucs
April 20th, 2010
Former Super Bowl-winning quarterback Joe Theisman and former Bucs first round draft pick quarterback Vinny Testaverde aren’t on board with the Bucs drafting a defensive tackle in the first round.
Despite the Bucs having one of the worst defenses in the NFL last year, both Theisman and Testaverde believe the Bucs should draft offense with the third overall pick Thursday night.
Playing in some local golf tournament, WTSP-TV sports director Dave Wirth caught up with the two to discuss the state of the Bucs. Both believe, rather than draft defense with the No. 3 pick, Josh Freeman needs help more.
“I’m always a guy who leans toward offense,” said Testaverde, a former Bucs who played 21 seasons in the NFL. “They should help out that young quarterback (Freeman). I know what it’s like to be a young quarterback on a team that’s rebuilding. The more help you get around you, the better off you’re going to be.”
Joe Theismann agreed.
“I think they have a lot of opportunities to go in different directions,” said Theismann, who played 12 seasons in the NFL. “I would think number-1 would be wide receiver. That seems to be somewhat of a glaring area for them. Certainly, offensive line would be one area that may be under consideration.”
Joe can’t argue with their philosophies and rationale. But the Bucs could have already massively upgraded their wide receiver corps with a measly, throwaway fifth round pick.
Had the Bucs done that, there would be no need to consider drafting a wide receiver in the first round and Freeman would have protection, which is what certain Bucs officials have said countless times over the past weeks was a goal.
April 20th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Unfortunately, no WR is worthy of a #3 overall pick. I say take Suh\McCoy, then draft WR in round 2 — OR\AND — add more early picks this year by using next years picks.
However, if Suh\McCoy are gone and\or we trade down, take CJ Spiller. If we didn’t have such a glaring hole at DT, I would take him #3 overall – he’s that good.
April 20th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Please, please not Berry though. He’s talented, but the other players I mentioned above, and some I didn’t, could have more impact to the Bucs.
April 20th, 2010 at 8:45 am
The bucs have had many opportunities to massively upgrade the receiver position, not just one. AB, Marshall, Boldin, Holmes or even Ginn(or acombination thereof) could be practicing with Freeman right now.
They have totally boxed themselves in, and now have to rely on geting an immediate impact #1 receiver in the draft.
Not impossible, buy very unlikely. Not helping five is totally flabergasting, IMO. Vinny and Theisman are correct except that there is not a receiver in this draft who justifies a number 3 overall pic.
April 20th, 2010 at 8:47 am
i just read sopmething that said the lions coaches hinted to fans that they would pick suh… i remember when calvin johnson was the guy we coveted and the lions picked him right before we drafted.. if the lions get us again i will be pretty upset
April 20th, 2010 at 9:16 am
acharlot5:
Just saw that same article on PFT. Let’s pray that its just a smokescreen and that they end up drafting Okung. They are in desperate need of upgrading their OL and have already made improvements to their DL w/ their offseason moves. Wouldn’t rule out Lions going after Haynesworth since he has a history with Schwartz….any thoughts on that Joe?
April 20th, 2010 at 9:16 am
They should get him help:
Demaryius Thomas WR Ga Tech in round 2a
and an O-lineman in round 4
Round 1: DT
Round 2b: CB Kareem Jackson
round 3: DE
April 20th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Any thoughts on Greg Hardy DE Miss?
Seems like h edominates at times and then dissappears. Projected between round 3-5 but have seen other things over the past 2 years proclaiming that he COULD be the best DE in the draft. I guess that means “potential.”
So what is the deal with him?
Is he someone the Bucs could be interested in if he is there at round 4?
I just really want them to go after and get a good speed rusher
April 20th, 2010 at 9:22 am
@Eric
Just as I bust your chops with always being negative, I must commend you when you post a well thought out and expressed “constructive” criticism.
Nice post above. Don’t know that I would have included Ginn but that’s your opinion. Lays out the belief of a mistake without totally blasting the entire regime. Good post.
April 20th, 2010 at 9:33 am
suh or mccoy at 3 then benz or tate with our 2a then shipley or riley cooper in the later rounds
April 20th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Those of you thinking Suh will be available are dreaming.
If he is the once in a lifetime pick at DT people think then the Lions can’t be dumb enough to pass on him. They can get their OT in round 2.
Maybe the Bucs take Okung in round 1 and get a DT in round 2 along with a WR?
April 20th, 2010 at 10:47 am
@Dave, I agree — I don’t think Suh will be there at #3. If nothing else, Detroit will trade down with someone who lusts after Suh. Detroit has already fortified their DL via free agency, so they could trade down and draft a good OT to protect Stafford.
@gruss222, I’m glad you approve of Eric’s post for a change. I’m glad someone is here to critique his posts. What, are you his mother or something?
April 20th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Agreed, good post Eric. The counter argument is that all of those guys would have been great to win this year, but I think the Bucs (for better or worse) are looking at building a team for the long haul. That means that there is an an argument for letting AB go. He was not part of a long-term solution and by letting him go the Bucs likley get a 3rd, which helps with the long-term building. Holmes is an easy pass for character concerns. Maybe if the Bucs had real strong veterna leadership and were close to competitiveness. Same for Marshall, but with the added element of cost. How many picks did he go for? Maybe worth it, but maybe not for a team trying to get young guys through draft. Ginn is a return guy.
April 20th, 2010 at 11:05 am
@Louie
I’ve never made a statement to you Louie. Not quite sure why you just jumped in other people’s business. If I am going to consistently condemn a person for what I perceive as worthless bashing, I man enough to commend the person when I believe the person is being constructive.
April 20th, 2010 at 11:13 am
YEAH, they need to draft Riley Cooper cuz he is awesome
April 20th, 2010 at 11:14 am
The only offensive player worth #3 money is Okung. He actually grades out the same, if not better, as Joe Thomas, who we all wanted in 07.
April 20th, 2010 at 11:35 am
Gruss222, I’m sorry. As much bitching as you do about those complaining, I thought you were a woman.
April 20th, 2010 at 11:43 am
OAR = Class act.
April 20th, 2010 at 11:44 am
@jimbuc
are you at all concerned that Winslow might not be in the long term plans? he played great last year and helped(suprised me), but i wonder if he will make it for the turnaround?
Isnt he about the same age as some of the guys i mentioned?
As a matter of fact, by your definition, isnt Rudd also too old?
April 20th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Suh Or McCoy aren’t going to save this defense. The ONLY reason the defense was top 10 when Chucky was still the coach was becasuse Jeff Garcia moved the chains and kept them off the field. It wouldn’t hurt my feelings if the Bucs drafted CJ Spiller with their first pick.
April 20th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Nope … best value in the draft is Mike Iupati
April 20th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Demaryius Thomas won’t do shit in the NFL. He only caught passes against 11 in the box trying to stop the option offense. On third and long he’ll be no better than Reidel Anthony/Jaques Green.
April 20th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
JimBuc, I didnt know you knew my middle name!
April 20th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
JimBuc & Louie, You guys need to lighten up! Seriously!
April 20th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
JimBuc, You call me a “class act”, while defending Grus222? Grus222 is a guy who tells us to go back to our “feces hole”, LOL!
April 20th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
@OAR
Did I really OAR? Show me a quote that I made that statement to YOU.
After following this team since’76 and having season tickets since 1990 I have seen your type come and go. Your the same ones that wear your Buc shirt under your Giants jersey until the Bucs win the game. Take off the Giants jersey and claim to be a Buc fan all along.
Your also the same type that sit behind your comp screen and keyboard and talk trash for absolutely no reason. I park at Heider and Himes every home game. Shoot me an email any time and we can meet up and have open, face-to-face conversations of our true beliefs in this organization without all the electronic name calling. That way, if a name is needed to be called, it can be called in the proper forum.
April 20th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Strega:
‘Bout time you found your way over here. Long time no talk. Glad you could post. Don’t be a stranger man.
April 20th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Gruss222, “Show me a quote that I made that statement to YOU.” Typical! Of course you didn’t make that statement to specifically to ME, but to all of us supposed “negative” posting indivduals. Hey just cause, I disagree doesn’t make me a contstant complainer or a bandwagoner!
I was hatched and raised here my whole life and I too have been a fan of the Bucs, since their inception. I have been to plenty of games at the ole sombero(season tickets, even the 79 playoff loss) and RJStaduim(even had season tickets several years running there also).
BTW here is my point about your above response to ME. “Your the same ones that wear your Buc shirt under your Giants jersey until the Bucs win the game.” A reply to me, yet you use “your(should be YOU ARE) the same ones”. Wow, ou used “ones”(plural). Do you think other posters might think you mean them too as well? PROBABLLY!
Unfortunately, I don’t think I’ll make it to your parking spot/hangout this year, unless I go to a game. I for some reason think your said “proper forum” would be alcohol-fueled and you seem to be teste enough as is.
April 20th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Sorry about Louie, I meant JimBuc and Grus222.
April 20th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
@OAR
Once again I reiterate, I never once mentioned your name in any of my remarks until you made it personal with an attack of me directly. If I make a comment in reference negative banter, and you chose to put your own self in that category, so be it. That’s your choice.
The rest of your response, I pretty much figured you for. Your kicking that computer screens pixels. Go get’em tiger!
April 20th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Gruss222, Whatever you say big guy! Yeah, not only am I kicking, but I’m screaming too, LOL! Give me a break! Besides your Himes and Hieder doesn’t exist. I havent ever heard of that side road so I google maped it and it doesn’t exist. What’s that about? And I don’t have your email address either big guy, but whatever.
BTW what exactly did I call you that offended you so much? The joke about I thought you were bitching and thought you were a woman? If it was get over it it was a JOKE! If not, please let me know of the other times I’m trash talking for no reason to YOU?
April 20th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
@OAR
Just like the rest of your research, you fell short once again. Heider & Himes: Himes-main avenue east side of stadium.
Heider- directly across from club seat entrance
You name calling means absolutely nothing. My comments to you are in response to you sticking your nose in a conversation and calling me out. Apparently you did not have a proper upbringing or you would understand what that disrespect will get you.
Since you obviously have proved that your nothing more than a computer screen trash talker, I’m done with this conversation. It’s fruitless and your cowardly.
April 20th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Gruss222, Wow It’s my fault you missed spelled Heider(it’s Heiter) My “research” found that out. That’s why my “research” was wrong! Your great spelling.
Im sorry, this is a blog! Not a cell phone or texting conversation. Privacy is somewhat mutt. As for sticking ones nose in on others conversation, everyone on here does it oneway or another or to a certain degree. I guarantee you have done it too!
And cowardly? Cause I don’t want to hang out and talk Bucs with you at YOUR tailgate party? That’s too funny!
April 20th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
soory “miss spelled”, not “missed spelled”