New COVID Rule Bad For Bucs?
December 16th, 2020Yesterday it was learned that three special teams figures who spend a lot of time at One Buc Palace together, kicker Ryan Succop, punter Bradley Pinion and long snapper Zach Triner, were placed on the COVID/reserved list.
The list is for players who either tested positive or came into contact with someone who tested positive.
Shortly after the Bucs released this information, the NFL released a memo to teams tightening the COVID rules to prevent a potential COVID bloom among teams as we enter the stretch run for the playoffs. The holiday season is in full swing, so where family and work gatherings are more commonplace.
Per NFL Network scribe Tom Pelissero, the NFL memo says even those who tested positive but are asymptomatic must stay away from the team for 10 full days.
Previously, all players had to do was test negative for two straight days and they were off the COVID list.
Also notable from tonight’s memo: “Based on NFL testing data from the last five months, our experts have recommended that we no longer permit an asymptomatic individual who tests positive for COVID-19 to return following two (2) consecutive negative PCR tests.” Mandatory 10 days.
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) December 16, 2020
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So that suggests that the three specialists listed above will be away from the team at least until Christmas, putting their availability for the Lions game at the Den of Depression on Dec. 26 in peril.
Man, Joe just hates this. Not just for the players involved, but specifically for the Bucs. Succop was so damn dependable he made kicking boring again.
December 16th, 2020 at 5:47 am
99.7% survival rate. No professional athlete has died from this, and there’s no evidence it’s even spread from sporting events. Such an absolute joke, and I guarantee Jerry Jones would be calling Rodger Goodell over this garbage. Shame our owners don’t care.
December 16th, 2020 at 5:57 am
The December 26th game is at the “Lion’s Den” of Depression, I was going to go to that game if we could do such things.
December 16th, 2020 at 6:10 am
Joe was so excited to write Den of Depression that he didn’t realize the game wasn’t in TAMPA! WHO does the stat checking?
December 16th, 2020 at 6:14 am
10 days?
What a pile of horses#!t!
December 16th, 2020 at 6:22 am
Perhaps only one of the three tested positive…..the players testing positive are the ones subject to the 10 days….pick your player?
Do we have a decent backup punter/long snapper?
December 16th, 2020 at 6:24 am
“NFL memo says even those who tested positive but are asymptomatic must stay away from the team for 10 full days.”
This just seems to get even more confusing. Did one of the three test positive? Did he test positive once or more than once? Is he asymptomatic or is he showing symptoms? When was the initial testing actually done & when does the ‘clock’ actually start?
Too many facts still missing it would seem for any of us to know if all three will be affected by the new rule for the full 10 days. Hopefully not.
And WesternBuc, none of us like the quarantine rules associated with ‘The Sickness’, and yes the survival rate of healthy young men with no underlying conditions (like professional football players?) is extremely high. But I’d guess that the NFL is just trying to ensure that it doesn’t spread like wildfire among the teams at this point & destroy the season. Like it’s spreading in many places our society right now? It sucks, but to have to shut down a whole team or multiple teams would be even worse.
December 16th, 2020 at 6:39 am
I’m so sick of this Covid BS. How many false positive tests have there been? Over 85% of cases are asymptomatic. Average age of death is older than life expectancy.
A gift from China to the Marxist political tyrants taking over our country.
Rant over. Back to football.
December 16th, 2020 at 6:44 am
History will look back at this moment of the Covid realities and call the whole world a bunch of idiots because they did not handle it accordingly.
This much we know is true…………….and that Our so called Elected officials and people that are in power are making decisions not really based off of science………………..but off of fear.
Death is part of life and so is disease………..
But people’s lives have been ruined and changed forever…………………..and this doesn’t affect the people that are in power or are in positions that affect the changes brought upon them.
Never before in human history have we seen this…………….and the virus has been weaponized instead of being treated on a human scale.
In the end……………God will judge those who have hurt so many.
December 16th, 2020 at 7:10 am
Tampabaybucsfan everyone knows the only depth on this team is tight ends and coaches.
December 16th, 2020 at 7:17 am
Its a good thing the guidelines say you can put a bunch of guys in a tiny room for hours but not go golfing out in the Florida sun or else the sickness will really take off and things will really get stupid.
December 16th, 2020 at 7:33 am
You’re assuming they tested Positive! Did O miss an update that all 3 returned Positive tests?
December 16th, 2020 at 7:37 am
Positive asymptomatic yes…
Exposed testing negative no ..
December 16th, 2020 at 7:50 am
You covid is a hoax idiots are just that…idiots.
December 16th, 2020 at 8:01 am
Sick of COVID??? Wear your mask. If you still believe it’s just the flu, make sure you don’t get the vaccine when it’s available. Leave it for someone who thinks they need it.
December 16th, 2020 at 8:13 am
No big deal, just the flu? Tell that to the Bills TE who developed heart swelling and will miss the season, same for Red Sox pitcher Eduardo Rodriguez
December 16th, 2020 at 8:18 am
We’re living in a country where half the people think if you’re wearing a mask you can be in a tiny room with people for hours and you won’t spread it. But also think being outside in the sun without a mask makes you a super spreader. And those same people think if you disagree you’re an idiot.
Those people need not be taken seriously.
December 16th, 2020 at 8:21 am
Deniers still deny…what a shock.
The 800 lb. gorilla the NFL is looking at is what happens if Covid effects a teams participation during the post season. There is no room to move games back, or get a break and victory as you can during the regular season because you are playing a weak team in which you can overcome the loss of one or two star players. Most major league sports have gone to playoff isolation. The NFL hasn’t. Let’s hope that that roll of the dice doesn’t result in crapping out, and the wheels don’t come off the process.
December 16th, 2020 at 8:44 am
Yes there is. Plenty.
December 16th, 2020 at 8:44 am
99% do survive. However, we do not know the long term effects on the body. I know that there have been reports of stroke, neurological issues like Parkinsons, and heart problems like myocarditis occurring within two months of recovering from the virus. I also have read research speculating that the effects on a person depend on not only the person’s genetic make up but the genetic structure of the strain of COVID that has infected the person. There is no longer just one strain but there are now six confirmed strains of the coronavirus that mutated from the original to cause a different range of reactions from people.
As far as a vaccine is concerned I have not been a fan since 2011 when the Supreme Court deemed that manufacturers of vaccines are not liable for any injury they cause because they are quote “unavoidably unsafe.” Now the government just has a vaccine injury pay out program where since 2013 they have paid over 4 billion dollars to those suffering from vaccine injury. I am pro immunization just not pro losing my right to choose because of the ingredients they use for vaccines.
December 16th, 2020 at 8:47 am
Capt kidd
The flu has a higher death rate than covid for individuals under 24.
This is a fact.
Show the flu some respect, it is deadlier to the athletes you listed. Fact.
You pointing out 2 rare cases is fear mongering.
When people say “its just a flu” what they mean is the reaction to covid has been taken as a softball by aspiring politicians.
“Look i just saved the world from a deadly pandemic” it’s like a fishing story, you know you caught a little ass fish but you blow it up and embellish it so it seems you caught jaws.
Look how many of these a-hole politicians are being awarded and writing books about how they saved us from a huge threat. The threat was a damn minnow and thier media lackeys are telling everyone it was a shark! Less than 30k people have only “covid” on thier death certificates the other 240k have at least 1 comorbidity listed.
December 16th, 2020 at 8:58 am
Joe… if we have a wild card team and you a team unable to compete, will they they won’t move the wildcard rounds back a week or two, will they? And the divisional Rounds? And the Championship games? Sure…a day or two. But under this new protocol, seems like potentially it could be a big problem. 10 days…
December 16th, 2020 at 9:00 am
mark2001:
Joe can only go by what Pelissero reported (Arians will be available for questions later today so we will get clarifications of the COVID-3) but what you spelled out seems to be the case.
December 16th, 2020 at 9:04 am
JP Sears explains how corona virus rules are made:
December 16th, 2020 at 9:04 am
Trump has totally ruined this country with his theories of a hoax …. those of you claiming it’s a hoax are idiots …. you all know damn well you would be first in line for a vaccine…. little scared babies behind the scenes
December 16th, 2020 at 9:06 am
Don’t look now but if the Bucs win one more home game, the “Den of Depression” epithet get lifted by Joe.
December 16th, 2020 at 9:15 am
Yup.
December 16th, 2020 at 9:43 am
CDC just officially admitted they have classified ALL flu, respiratory and pneumonia deaths as Covid.
Inflated numbers to drive the hysteria with the weak- minded and easily snookered.
December 16th, 2020 at 9:44 am
I, for one, will never take the vaccine.
December 16th, 2020 at 10:02 am
On the other hand Cobra, one could also say that the numbers are likely higher because of the attempts of some political officials intentionally trying to under report the cases. It will be interesting to see what is uncovered on the other side of the worst of this disease.
December 16th, 2020 at 10:04 am
CDC also officially endorsed HCQ as a efficacious treatment. Wanna bet their former refusal cost 70-100,000 their lives, simply because Orange Man Bad?
Where I live HCQ and Ivermectin have been used consistency with excellent results, especially with Ivermectin.
December 16th, 2020 at 10:05 am
I Dont think most “hoax” people feel its not real,they just feel that “its an automatic death sentence” to anyone is the hoax.
December 16th, 2020 at 10:09 am
Cobraboy is Covid isn’t real then how did a lack of HCQ cause lives?
December 16th, 2020 at 10:15 am
The average time to produce a vaccine is roughly 4-5 years.
The (sickness) vaccine was produced and implemented in LESS than one year.
How, do you ask, was this possible?
Your turn to THINK (for a change) to get the answer.
2+2=4.26
December 16th, 2020 at 10:17 am
India has been using using HCQ w/ good results for Covid for quite some time.
December 16th, 2020 at 10:27 am
dominion math
December 16th, 2020 at 10:40 am
A corona Vaccine has been in development since 2003..it was during and after SARS. Once we had the genetic material in January, they could tailor the earlier SARS Corona vaccine development research to COVID. My Son works in the field. Thank goodness we didn’t decide to sit on our hands after SARS…but we had a pretty good idea we hadn’t seen the last of new Corona viruses. Nor will Covid-19 likely be.
December 16th, 2020 at 10:53 am
@westernbuc and @cobraboy.
I agree that the death rate for young people in this is very minimal – maybe equal to the flu or less than the flu.
However, it spreads easier than the flu. It also has been shown to cause myocarditis to some individuals just like the flu. That includes young individuals.
That is confirmed in Eduardo Rodriguez, a starting pitcher for the Boston Red Sox. That seems right now likely to Keyontae Johnson, the Gator basketball player although we are still waiting to hear that as definite. He collapsed and was actually put into a medically induced coma to recover.
I can tell you personally that I had a niece in Colorado who contracted Covid-19 in May. She is 24 and played softball in high school making her somewhat of an athlete. After she was diagnosed, they did not rush her to the hospital and give her Remdesivir. Instead, she was sent home and told to isolate. She recently was diagnosed with myocarditis.
Maybe it is ok for the Bucs and the NFL to take precautions.
December 16th, 2020 at 10:54 am
Cobra boy you are on FIRE!
December 16th, 2020 at 11:02 am
@SC Bucs Fan: I, for one, have never said it is not “real.”
It is, as are a flu bugs.
It just is not as deadly as The Overlords want you to believe.
The CDC denied the use of HCQ off script for the CCP Flu, and numerous states—mainly prog controlled—threatened to pull the license of any doc who used it, based on CDC directives.
All along there were many positive reports and studies about it’s excellent properties, including those doctors who made their statements in their Capital-Steps video that social media banned.
So, yes, the CDC and numerous state gubmints are responsible for many, many thousands of deaths, maybe well over 100,000.
I saw the positive effects with my own eyes here in the Caribbean.
December 16th, 2020 at 11:02 am
Oh wow, so if any of these guys tested positive, and weren’t just around someone who did, then the NFL just totally fked us, huh?
Meanwhile other teams got to reschedule their games, but not for the Bucs! Just forfeit your entire kicking special teams unit instead…
lol
#ItsABucsLife
I guess it suits based on how dumb half these comments are…
December 16th, 2020 at 11:19 am
“Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.”
-1984 by George Orwell
December 16th, 2020 at 11:21 am
Western buc and all other detractors- 300k dead in this country alone,
Stop watching WWE, your messiah lost. Give reality a chance.
December 16th, 2020 at 11:22 am
@unbelievable…
Denver with no Qb’s
December 16th, 2020 at 11:32 am
@geno- that’s true, they really got fked. I guess it’s not so bad.
lol Clean House, unfortunately reality is not something these people have any interest in. Fantasies and conspiracy theories are so much more fun, who cares if 300k Americans had to die?
December 16th, 2020 at 11:58 am
In the psychology of human behavior, denialism is a person’s choice to deny reality as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth. Denialism is an essentially irrational action that withholds the validation of a historical experience or event, when a person refuses to accept an empirically verifiable reality.
Posting this for those who don’t understand how math actually works, what a scientist is(and how they think), or just can’t put the effort forth to think for themselves.
Looking forward to the day that you accept that you have been lied to and regain your freedom.
December 16th, 2020 at 12:04 pm
More important: How many false-negatives have their been?
December 16th, 2020 at 12:32 pm
Fauci himself said on World TV that any PCR over 36 cycles will generate 99% false positives.
How many cycles do the current PCR’s for the CCP Flu undergo? Anyone? Bueller?
I can’t say I’m shocked at how much ignorance is going around. The Overlords appreciate your loyalty.
December 16th, 2020 at 12:35 pm
So no kicker for Sundays game guess we better go for 2 when we score.
December 16th, 2020 at 12:37 pm
Seems like it’s should be Qobraboy… On a bad year flu gets 60,000 in this country, COVID will get 400,000 plus this year. Hmm, how’s that’s math Qgp? Maybe your denialism is the problem as you must be suggesting above.
December 16th, 2020 at 12:40 pm
Fun fact: The average age of death in the United States is 78… the average age of death of COVID victims is 79…
December 16th, 2020 at 12:49 pm
Hey, Marine Buc – have you read much Marx? Because your statement that the US is being taken over by Marxists would suggest you haven’t.
December 16th, 2020 at 12:58 pm
“Certain people” have begun to use this sickness, whatever you wanna call it or blame it on, as a weapon against the president elect. Whether your an idiot and want to call it a hoax or compare it to the flu, let’s just get on board to get all this over with. The election is like the Sopranos. It’s over. Using a pandemic on our home front against government officials is far from what I call a united nation.
December 16th, 2020 at 1:09 pm
I’m sure we can all rest assured knowing the “president-elect” is on the case.
December 16th, 2020 at 1:14 pm
Are you seriously trying to say it wasn’t “used” against 45?
bk, I’d like a side of fries with your ignorance please.
December 16th, 2020 at 1:43 pm
Serious questions:
How many NFL players have died from the virus from China?
&
How many NFL players careers or season is over as a result of contracting the virus from China?
I don’t know where to get answers to those questions.
December 16th, 2020 at 1:55 pm
@bkBucs: you are spewing Overlord taking points.
The CDC has pretty much admitted the CCP Flu #’s were cooked, because ALL flue, pneumonia and respiratory deaths are included as Covid.
May I suggest you seek better sources of news?
I have forgotten more about this exaggerated balony than you ever knew.
December 16th, 2020 at 2:02 pm
Where have flu deaths gone? Pretty much recorded as zero by the CDC & WHO.
For the first time in recorded history.
December 16th, 2020 at 2:21 pm
Cobra, according to the WHO flu deaths are indeed down this year – but nowhere near zero. In fact they’re quite typical – neither abnormally low nor abnormally high.
All this stuff is easily researched.
December 16th, 2020 at 2:52 pm
I think cobraboy believes if he keeps repeating a lie often enough, it will somehow magically become true.
December 16th, 2020 at 3:15 pm
Seems to be working for you!
December 16th, 2020 at 3:17 pm
have to chime in…….this is undoubtedly china’s greatest feat. bring down a presidential administration and gather more genetic information than ever before for future viruses.
biological warfare, plain and simple.
December 16th, 2020 at 3:22 pm
Actually,
Repeating a lie over and over until it becomes true to you does not make it true. But it does make you a fool.
December 16th, 2020 at 3:31 pm
Robert Says:
biological warfare, plain and simple.
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Yep.
December 16th, 2020 at 3:56 pm
gp has clearly been triggered.
Let’s be nice to him you guys.
December 16th, 2020 at 4:00 pm
Cobraboy Says:
December 16th, 2020 at 2:02 pm
Where have flu deaths gone?
Considering that the CDC concocts the seasonal flu shot based on the most common strains appearing on the other side of the world. With all the misreporting and shutdowns masking the real flu numbers, how are they going to “guess” this year?
Oh well, that’s OK, they can just include the flu deaths in with the c0vid deaths next year too. They seem to want to drag this out as long as they can anyways.
December 16th, 2020 at 4:04 pm
unbelievable Says:
December 16th, 2020 at 3:56 pm
gp has clearly been triggered.
Sorry
Allergic to blatant ignorance and intellectual cowardice
December 16th, 2020 at 4:56 pm
Times’ Person of the Year should be the COVID commies. Those authoritarian bastards who use fear mongering to force the rest of us to lie like a bunch of damn cowards from an illness that has a 99.6% survivability rate.
December 16th, 2020 at 8:42 pm
Some men make better serfs than Free Men.
Feel free to cower from the CCP Flu. Just leave me and other Sovereign Men out of your fear pity party.