Moving The Super Bowl
July 27th, 2020
Sounds a warning bell.
Tampa is scheduled to host the Super Bowl on February 7, 2021. The Bucs have not been shy, stating the team is gunning to be the first NFL squad to play in a Super Bowl stadium that also is their home field.
But the way hot-dog-eating-contest-protesting, mock-draft-scowling, L.L. Bean-wearing, Second Amendment abolitionist, Mike-Florio-arguing, parrot-insensitive, chewing-with-his-mouth-open, soup-gulping, California-train-romancing, anti-football proliferation, outhouse-admiring, airline-napping, steerage-flying, Yogi Berra-worshiping, urinal-picture-taking, video-game-playing, Taylor-Swift-listening, pickpocket-thwarting, Bucs-uniform-frowning, Allie-LaForce-smitten, Big-Ten-Network-hating, pedestrian-bumping, olive oil-lapping, popcorn-munching, coffee-slurping, fried-chicken-eating, oatmeal-loving, circle-jerking, craft-beer-chugging, cricket-watching, scone-loathing, college football-naïve, baseball-box-score-reading, NPR-honk, filthy-hotel-staying, fight-instigating, barista-training, Budweiser-tolerant, baseball scorecard-keeping, pasta-feasting, vomit-dodging scrooge, Kay-Adams-following social activist NFL insider Peter King of NBC Sports puts it, that goal could be a lost cause.
King, in his weekly “Football Morning in America” column, floated the idea that if “The Sickness” is still raging in Florida as it has been in recent weeks, the NFL could move the Super Bowl out of Tampa to another host city where the virus is not flaring up as terribly.
I think we’re probably eight weeks from any serious consideration about this next item. But the Super Bowl is 28 weeks away. That’s six months and a week till Super Bowl week. This is another what-if that you can be sure the league will be thinking about by, say, October if Florida continues to be on fire with the virus: moving the Super Bowl. The game is scheduled for Feb. 7 in Tampa. The league certainly would want the game to be played with at least some fans and with the sort of pageantry that accompanies the biggest sports event on the calendar. We’re at least two months from serious consideration about the site of the Super Bowl, but it’s something in a year with so much in flux that you have to understand it could be in play if, eight or nine weeks from now, Florida and Tampa-St. Petersburg in particular are hot spots.
For the NFL to do that, there would have to be serious bullets dodged and hoops to jump through. Moving a Super Bowl in a handful of months would be a monstrous effort both for the NFL and for the new host city, not to mention the expense.
(Joe is just going to take a wild stab and guess Las Vegas could host the Super Bowl on short notice. Allegiant Stadium is currently only hosting Raiders home games, UNLV home football games and the Las Vegas Bowl. Vegas also has a ton of hotels that likely could handle an immediate need of thousands. The Pro Bowl is scheduled for Las Vegas on January 31, a week before the Super Bowl. So in that respect, the NFL already would have shop set up there to some degree.)
Now Joe remembers Super Bowl XXXVI was rescheduled (but not moved), as the NFL pushed back the season, not playing on what would have been Week 2 due to the 9/11 tragedy. The game stayed in New Orleans but the NFL had to buy out a car dealers association that scheduled a convention to get the date it needed.
Joe cannot remember the league having to uproot and move its premier event on only a few weeks’ notice.
Joe is just going to assume the NFL has contingency plans to move a Super Bowl in case of an Act of God. Still, it would be a massive undertaking and in a year the NFL expects revenues to drop, this would be a hit to the league’s bottom line.
July 27th, 2020 at 5:15 am
COVID IS going to get worse especially for us Floridians bet
July 27th, 2020 at 6:23 am
Here we go…..once again…. talking about nonsense again
Media …….”Florida has now become a hotspot”
People……”whoa look at those numbers”
People who think rationally……”more testing equals more results”
The Superbowl being moved to another location absolutely makes ZERO sense considering that they’d be faced with the same problem every else in the nation.
People need to stop living in fear and live with more common sense.
July 27th, 2020 at 6:38 am
I’m thinking there would have to be some heavy duty compensation to Tampa if that happens, especially since the NFL ties the ridiculous requirement of playing in London to getting a Super Bowl in the first place.
July 27th, 2020 at 7:35 am
It isn’t about “just testing”. But let them move the SB to some poor community where some citizens have lost their “freedom” and followed guidelines for minimizing COVID. Poor suckers…rather be poor and free….money and jobs aren’t everything. SMH.
July 27th, 2020 at 7:36 am
And Joe…a significant hit to the Tampa Bay area’s bottom line.
July 27th, 2020 at 7:37 am
It will be over for sure on November 3. Or as my doctor said when I asked him “Hey Doc?…. how much longer for this coronavirus? He said, how should I know? I’m not a politician”
July 27th, 2020 at 7:45 am
So I tend to agree that the NFL will do everything that it can to keep the Super Bowl in Tampa.
That being said I could see some stricter guidelines in Tampa before the Super Bowl happens here.
Between 100 and 150 Floridians are dying a day in Florida from Covid 19 for the last 4 weeks – that is up from about 30 a day so clearly a problem. Whether we are testing more or not, our positivity rate has gone from 4 percent to 8 percent to 12 percent to 20 percent. Our own state mandate suggests that we should be under 10 percent to allow businesses to operate as normal.
One number suggested that the Tampa/St Pete/Clearwater was the 8th worst region in the country right now. I think it would be hard from a public relation viewpoint to play the Super Bowl here if we are the 8th worst region come January 2021.
But again, the NFL wants to be here and they will be talking with local leadership, the governor and others to make adjustments necessary to have the Super Bowl in our great home town.
My thoughts are 85% it is here, 15% elsewhere. Media guys like Peter King don’t solve problems – they just talk about them. There will be a lot of people come December and January trying to make sure that Super Bowl occurs here!
Go Bucs! Be the 1st to play the Super Bowl at home.
July 27th, 2020 at 7:59 am
Never fear.
The hysteria will be gone on November 4.
July 27th, 2020 at 8:14 am
SB to South Dakota, in the shadows of Mt. Rushmore!
July 27th, 2020 at 8:28 am
Our inglorious leader said it would be gone by April. Now you predict Nov. 4th. If we are in the prediction business, I’d guess next July.
That being said, there are plenty of places that would be better than Tampa right now regarding Covid…in fact, any of them, except maybe Chicago, LA, Houston, Dallas, or New Orleans.
July 27th, 2020 at 8:34 am
Of course Miami, Jacksonville and Atlanta would be bad, too. Charlotte North Carolina would be pretty good right now.
July 27th, 2020 at 8:49 am
BucsAnthem – over 1k people are dying daily now in the US. Is that due to more testing? So if there was no testing would the number of people getting the virus change? Is the key to not getting cancer simply to not get tested for it. Stop relying on Trump’s twitter feed for your news. New cases are outpacing increased testing so your boys illogical argument doesn’t make sense anyway.
July 27th, 2020 at 9:00 am
Brady that’s right. I heard about the guy so sick with Covid he wrecked his motorcycle
Or the people who died and were suspected of having Covid so the M.E. Just signed off on it
Where you this afraid of the Swine Flu in 2009 that killed over 60,000 people until Obama said to the CDC stop tracking deaths Ummmm
Also stop driving cars they kill hundreds of thousands of people a year
July 27th, 2020 at 9:04 am
Don’t worry Dr. Trump says it’s a hoax. Everything he says is 100% trustworthy. It makes perfect sense to take medical advice from a person that can’t talk in complete sentences and doesn’t believe in Science.
July 27th, 2020 at 9:29 am
I was under the impression this is a sports blog not a political forum.
July 27th, 2020 at 9:30 am
Atrain…some of you guys will believe anything. You know they think you guys believing the “alternative facts news” folks are mushrooms, don’t you? Very sad.
July 27th, 2020 at 9:31 am
The CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million) of H1N1 in 2009. No mask, No Quarantines. All Plandemic.
July 27th, 2020 at 9:33 am
All…when it is a Covid topic that effects local sports, some Covid talk will likely pop up. After all, politics and political grandstanding denial has much to do with where we are in the sports world, and in America, today.
July 27th, 2020 at 9:35 am
lowercase…newsflash…we didn’t have that kind of death and medical system critical care overload in 2009as a result of H1N1 . You really don’t see the difference?
There is a big difference. But if we’re going to chatter about this, definitely understand there would have been hospital overload back then if more fear had been stoked through the country by media. That didn’t happen. One day, Joe will tell a stunning true story about Joe working alongside the person sadly who was the first H1N1 death in Pinellas County and how that was handled by the company Joe worked for and the local health department.–Joe
July 27th, 2020 at 9:55 am
as usual, CobraBoy speaks the truth
July 27th, 2020 at 10:12 am
2018-2019…34000 total attributed deaths compared to 145 thousand with Covid and counting…in 6 months….over a third of the deaths in WWII. Didn’t say they were not both serious…but seriously different. It isn’t about stoking fear…it is about the reality of this disease. And if we had taken it more as being real or serious, we would look more like many European nations now regarding where we are with this disease, rather than Brazil.
July 27th, 2020 at 10:32 am
One day Joe?
Why the mystery? There is no mystery whatsoever. Joe’s interest lies in the Bucs. Maybe when Joe’s bored one day, Joe will take the time to type it up. It’s an anecdotal true story like many others have. It’s not about to change the world. –Joe
July 27th, 2020 at 10:32 am
BTW..hopefully we get a vaccine. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure what the numbers look like if we lose a thousand a day as we have the last four days, for the next six months to a year. Just saying…
July 27th, 2020 at 11:07 am
Joe so are you saying people are going to ICUs because of the media and not because they are having major complications due to the virus. 👌🙄. Me thinks somebody watches too much Fox News. No, Joe didn’t say that whatsoever. Nowhere is that even implied. Why is it so fun to make things up? However, Joe has been told by multiple doctors in the Bay area that widespread panic has led to many more hospital admissions, with a lot of folks terrified to ride out the virus at home because of the advance panic, even if that’s what their doctor has advised –Joe
July 27th, 2020 at 11:32 am
Keep it in Tampa. Like I’ve said…living in NY I’ve lived with most of the hysteria you folks are now experiencing. Every day in March-early May it was our governor getting on TV or “questionably fake” news outlets touting “numbers spiking!” “A death every 10 minutes!”, “hospitals are full!” (Ironically there were a handful of hospital centers built to help with the supposed ER issues as well as a hospital ship available that weren’t anywhere even close to capacity yet we’re not being utilized by “chicken little”…hmmm?). Thankfully at least you guys aren’t getting the “what will you tell people choking to death when there are no ventilators!?”. No, that’s not saying it’s all a hoax (there is a contagious virus out there, perhaps 6 strains of it, that seems to have a disproportionally high rate of fatality for the sick and the elderly…a similar issue with a few viruses. If you fall in that category then by all means do what you feel you should to limit your exposure if you’re scared). With that said Florida will almost assuredly survive this wave, just like NY did, just like America did in 1918-1919. If history repeats itself we will likely see waves of outbreak, but by January/February nobody can say for certain that Tampa will be any worse than some other city.
July 27th, 2020 at 11:32 am
Go Bucs 72 Says:
“It makes perfect sense to take medical advice from a person that can’t talk in complete sentences and doesn’t believe in Science.”
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Bill Gates is neither doctor nor scientist (and probably can’t even write code, but that’s another story), yet I bet you line up for his vaccine.
July 27th, 2020 at 11:40 am
mark2001 Says:
“BTW..hopefully we get a vaccine.”
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Nothing says sheep like a guy lining up to get his DNA edited. For the greater good, of course.
July 27th, 2020 at 11:52 am
I guess I am confused. You seem to be explicitly saying that the media hype is causing panic and in turn hospital admissions are spiking. “Widespread panic has led to more hospital admissions.” “There would have been more hospital overload back then if more fear had been stoked through the country by media.” ICU beds are filling up throughout the state. I don’t think they are in the ICU because of an article they read on CNN then ran to the ER with the sniffles and then moved to the ICU to monitor the sniffles.
July 27th, 2020 at 12:01 pm
Cobraboy Says:
July 27th, 2020 at 7:59 am
Never fear.
The hysteria will be gone on November 4.
To be replace with nationwide rioting and looting.
How widespread and the duration will depend on who wins.
Super Bowl in Tampa may depend on whether the Ray Jay still stands or if the season was cancelled due to violence in the streets!
I truly hope it doesn’t get that bad, but the seeds have been planted.
July 27th, 2020 at 12:04 pm
Joe also speaks truth.
Where I am from docs I know say ER’s inundated by people with runny noses (I have a business here that contracts with a friend who supplies as-needed physicians to clinics, so I get a different perspective).
I have another friend here who is the general, a doctor, in charge of the largest military hospital. She says she cannot talk about CV19 under orders, and it is really frustrating.
ICU’s are NOT full everywhere, and even those full are NOT full because of CV19.
My cousin is chief of surgery of a large panhandle hospital, and one of his responsibilities is overseeing the 3 ICU units: medical, coronary and surgical.
Last I spoke with him, last week, he said the MICU is 63% capacity, and of that 63% only 23% were CV19.
Fact is hospitals shut down for three months, so much of the ICU volume are people who delayed therapies and surgeries because elective procedures were out on hold.
Besides, between double counting “cases” (one for a + test, and one for a + antibody test), the same person getting multiple tests (fear porn), large % of tests being false negatives and false positives, vastly more testing, and questionable diagnoses of deaths, I do not believe we even know what the actual numbers are.
If CV19 is such a disaster, why is there so much controversy and lack of consensus IN THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY about it?
July 27th, 2020 at 12:16 pm
Cobra…there is pretty much medical consensus in the medical community…among the top scientists and medical professionals.
If you don’t know that, it is because you listen to some media that scours the planet for crackpots that believe completely differently.
Of course there is some differences in theory, as there is with all medical and scientific research. If you ever had many science classes, you would know that is the norm regarding any disease, particularly in the early stages of investigation.
July 27th, 2020 at 12:16 pm
@Bush’s Coke Spoon: when Bill Gates, an advocate for population reduction, says there will be “many, many” vaccinations requires for EACH PERSON for this virus, my skeptical spider senses go off. Not one shot, not two shots, but many. One wonders which will be infused with nanotechnology.
No thanks.
@gp: Mayube it’s time to start the secession conversation. This weekend the shooting part of this civil war started: some black militia dudes shot three of their own, some Antifa Loyal Comrade in Austin shot his AK-47 at a car five times before return fire that killed him, and a pistol standoff in Eugene when Loyal Comrades blocked a public road, the driver pulled hie piece, and an Antifa Loyal Comrade pulled *his* piece. It’ll get worse. Fact is many WANT it to get worse, you know, for The Glorious Progressive Revolution and all.
Very dark times ahead. There is no middle ground, and there is no putting the genie back in the bottle.
July 27th, 2020 at 12:22 pm
If you can’t read or comprehend a post, please don’t respond to it.
It makes you look like an absolute idiot!
July 27th, 2020 at 12:26 pm
BTW Cobra…no one in their right mind just ignores or denies a pandemic. Real Medical scientists ever have. Sometimes theories don’t prove correct. That is science. Plus viruses mutate and treatments and vaccines are identified or developed, so the game changes. That is the story of science… of mankind.
Unfortunately, some rather believe some talking head acting in their political or self interest. Some even rely on Facebook for news. Bizarre.
July 27th, 2020 at 12:27 pm
And if you believe every word some poster you don’t personally states on a message board, you are an idiot.
July 27th, 2020 at 12:31 pm
You don’t know anything about Cobra… And BTW…never said all the beds in the ICU were because of Covid. BTW… UF Health Jacksonville was over 75% a week ago..
July 27th, 2020 at 12:33 pm
Are all these deaths a “hoax?” Me thinks Trump Jr. (DeSantis) opened Florida a wee bit too early and now we’re all paying the price for it. The virus will certainly not be gone on November 3rd. Thank God there will be a new resident at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in January 2021. However, whether the current president goes peacefully we’ll have to see. He’s been playing the fixed election card for the last couple months and he’s gonna keep playing it right up till the end.
July 27th, 2020 at 12:39 pm
mark2001 Says:
Who, exactly, gets to annoint the “scientists and medical professionals” as “top?”
There IS NO CONSENSUS in “science.” Only repeatable results.
And THERE IS NO CONSENSUS IN THE REPEATABLE RESULTS with this virus. We don’t even have reliable numbers.
But, please, be my guest: live in total fear. Just leave The Normals out of it.
July 27th, 2020 at 12:41 pm
You speak many truths on the topic Cobraboy, but I fear your words shall fall on many pairs of deaf ears here on JBF. I hope the NFL keeps a level head in this. Certainly have a contingency plan or two in place, but try to keep to the original plan of playing the SB in Tampa.
July 27th, 2020 at 12:49 pm
Cobra not true. My wife is an RN with one of the largest health insurance companies. People do not get admitted to the hospital without cause. People get admitted to the hospital when and only when they need to be.
July 27th, 2020 at 12:50 pm
@ Alvin
Trump can’t even get many things he wants done that are at least within debate on being within his Constitutional powers without Congress and/or the Courts trying to block him and you really are concerned he’ll all of a sudden be able to actually pull off an act like not stepping down from office should he lose the election in November? I’ll try to keep on topic with football here, but some posts deserve a counterpoint conversation.
July 27th, 2020 at 12:56 pm
150 funerals a day here in the state of Florida…150,000 already around the nation…I’m just glad that all these deaths are simply a Democratic hoax and they’ll all magically disappear on November 4th.
Millions of health care professionals agree…all those pics from hospital docs and nurses who look like they’ve been to a battle zone…a look in their eyes I haven’t seen since Vietnam! All STAGED by the lamestream, fake, alternative facts media. Just like the moonwalk out in a California Soundstage…
All these experts are just making it up for election day…as if a guy who lost the popular vote by three million was going to be difficult to take out.
Yeah that’s the ticket! How could I be so blind as to believe all that made up video….all those fake experts…silly me!
July 27th, 2020 at 1:07 pm
Thank You Brady…I didn’t comment on that, but you are exactly right. Hospital admission and especially ICU admission has to meet protocols. You can’t just request it and have it happen. And then some can’t figure out why we don’t accept all the statements by posters as gospel.
July 27th, 2020 at 1:11 pm
As for the SB…if the NFL made a deal with the City of Tampa to simply delay the SB in Tampa until next year…2022 I guess…I would take that deal in a a New York Minute.
A year later and Covid will be a bad memory…this means all the hotels and tourist industry would get the full monty…this year there may be reduced demand.
This year’s champion will most assuredly (as a Drill Sergeant at Fort Polk liked to say)…most assuredly have an asterisk associated with a tainted title.
OTOH maybe it won’t be so tainted. It will also be an asterisk that may be viewed with pride as the team that survived it all. Whatever…it’s not the same.
Still I’d love to see the Bucs hoisting the SB Trophy wherever it ends up.
July 27th, 2020 at 1:16 pm
St. Pete…sounds like you don’t believe the Donald is Gods chosen 21st century prophet, sent to lead us into the promised land…again. But maybe, on the other hand, he is closer to Ahab, chosen to….
July 27th, 2020 at 1:17 pm
Okey Dokey Joe
July 27th, 2020 at 1:21 pm
@TheBradyBunch Says:
Please show me where I ever inferred people are not hospitalized without cause. “Cause” can be a docs strong recommendation. Keep in mind Hospitals and docs are STILL paid at a higher rate because of the WuhBug, so there is a strong financial incentive.
I stated—factually—that for three months there has been a moratorium on elective surgeries because of the WuhBug.
Now the hospitals are opened back up for business, people are going to hospitals and outpatient clinics in droves to catch up.
I delayed a minor eye procedure, and my eye guy says he’s slammed for another month after doing not one elective eye surgery in April through June.
My cousin stares the exact same thing. But in his case his patients have endured significant pain while waiting (he’s a major back specialist.)
@mark2001Please state where I posted that ICU admissions are by request.
You put words in my mouth. Bad style, Loyal Comrade. And not the first time you’ve done so.
So if a person delays an elective CABG or kidney transplant or spinal fusion or any number of elective surgeries (elective being defined as non-immediatelty life-threateniong) that will require some time in ICU, are those voluntary ICU adnmissions?
July 27th, 2020 at 1:31 pm
Cobra… Elective surgeries are still often put off. As are doctors office visits. Because people don’t want to potentially expose themselves to this disease. A nice article as of July 13th..Washington Post, if you wish to read it. So if anything, the reduction in those should make the occupancy of ICU less….not more.
And any Doctor that recommends admission because a patient is “concerned they may need hospitalization”, without a specific reason, isn’t much of a doctor. Or a hospital that would give a potential patient a bed without a solid recommendation isn’t worth their license.
July 27th, 2020 at 1:42 pm
@Mark2001. Thank you. Yes, many are still being out off, but many are now getting done, and often those require a stay in an ICU, especially if a patient has other conditions.
Plenty of excellent doctors suggest a stay in the hospital for “observation.” Common as mud. In the climate of hyper-litigation over malpractice, such defensive medicine happens in large numbers every day.
I don’t read the Pravda-on-the-Potomac. They were complicit in the fake RussiaRussiaRussia hoax and have yet to apologize. Like a lying spouse, once trust is lost it is nearly impossible to regain.
All a newspaper has to sell is credibility. And what that no longer exists…well…they are no longer trusted.
Except maybe by Loyal Comrade Fellow Travelers who “Want To Believe.”
Fact is a very high percentage of current hospital admissions are from pent-up demand for services.
July 27th, 2020 at 2:15 pm
Lol at the comrade reference considering your boy is Putin’s %#€¥#!
July 27th, 2020 at 2:20 pm
Brady
We get it
You want the Government to take care of you Cool
Move to a socialist country
You believe everything CNN tells you
July 27th, 2020 at 2:40 pm
Bye bye Super Bowl. Thank you Rick DeSantis! And you too, Donald Trump! When idiots are in charge, this is what happens people. Vote wisely.
July 27th, 2020 at 3:07 pm
“I don’t read the Pravda-on-the-Potomac. They were complicit in the fake RussiaRussiaRussia hoax and have yet to apologize. Like a lying spouse, once trust is lost it is nearly impossible to regain….SnakeHead
At last we have something we can agree on. Once a person is caught lying trust is hard to regain. However, your premise is sadly wrong. A total sham trial by the Trump/GOP senate does nothing to prove the Russia allegations about helping Trump is a hoax. In fact, many if not most of the intelligence community (including Mueller) clearly state Russia was involved. Your hero lied and you still believe him.
What should the NFL do when they find outbreaks like the Miami Marlins? Play on, play on? Super Bowl is doomed to the same dust bin as the Jax GOP convention and the comment, “it will disappear like a miracle”.
July 27th, 2020 at 3:26 pm
Cobra…insurance companies aren’t going to pay for doctors to keep patients extra days to avoid potential problems. And if Doctors are just making stuff up so patients can stay in the hospital more days…well…risky business.
Amazing the media that helped make the call when we had our biggest period of prosperity, and helped inform us during the emergence as the greatest power in the world, has now become a propaganda piece in your mind. And while we live in denial, the rest of the world is in recovery and is zooming past us in many ways. We have lost our position in the world, partially thanks to the new age “alternative media”.
July 27th, 2020 at 3:35 pm
ATrain…amazing how many people are clambering for those big handouts from individuals working dead end service jobs, to service and retail small businesses, to manufacturing, to churches, to almost every other small business you can imagine. That is the closest thing to big handout socialism there is. And many of their 19th century business models are dead men walking.
But really, it is a matter of perspective. When the government gives you money, it is needed and rightfully so. When it goes to someone else, it is big government socialism. When it denies or works to inhibit someone else’s voting rights, that is tough luck or just as well. When it happens to you it is despotic tyranny. When the government agrees with your interpretation of the law, it is liberty and justice for all. When it disagrees with you, it is an infringement on your freedom and rights.
July 27th, 2020 at 3:37 pm
Where in the hell do you get off saying I want the govt to take care of me? That makes no sense. Im a conservative just not a fan of draft dodging liars who are ensuring this virus will be with us until we get a vaccine.
July 27th, 2020 at 4:14 pm
Derp derp its all the media derp derp!
Somehow the most uninformed amongst us are the ones who consume the least trustworthy media, yet constantly cry about the media.
‘Murica!
July 27th, 2020 at 4:36 pm
@TheBradyBunch
You’ve never seen the number of people who go to the emergency room for stupid reasons on a normal day? Add some fear porn to the equation, and yes, people become even more irrational.
July 27th, 2020 at 4:42 pm
@TheBradyBunch
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Also, everyone who visits the emergency room doesn’t automatically become an ICU patient, but they still take up resources: admin intake, triage, and a doctor’s time which could have been spent on someone who was really needing it.
People use the emergency room for things that should have been handled with a family doctor appointment all of the time. It’s easy to see that getting worse during a “pandemic.”
July 27th, 2020 at 4:59 pm
Cobraboy Says:
“She says she cannot talk about CV19 under orders, and it is really frustrating.”
This right here should make everybody question everything we are fed by the MSM. But it won’t. Sheep want someone to lead them.
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“ICU’s are NOT full everywhere, and even those full are NOT full because of CV19… Fact is hospitals shut down for three months, so much of the ICU volume are people who delayed therapies and surgeries because elective procedures were out on hold.
“Besides, between double counting “cases” (one for a + test, and one for a + antibody test), the same person getting multiple tests (fear porn), large % of tests being false negatives and false positives, vastly more testing, and questionable diagnoses of deaths, I do not believe we even know what the actual numbers are.
“If CV19 is such a disaster, why is there so much controversy and lack of consensus IN THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY about it?”
We have been pointing these things out forever. The same people will continue to ignore facts and keep spouting the same tired talking points without applying any logic. They refuse to acknowledge anything which runs counter to what the talking heads instruct them to believe, even in the face of overwhelming evidence of fraud, like 300+ testing facilities in Florida reporting 100% positive cases last week. Or the researcher who’s study showed remdisevir was useless being murdered. Just a coincidence.
July 27th, 2020 at 5:19 pm
mark2001 Says:
“Cobra…there is pretty much medical consensus in the medical community…among the top scientists and medical professionals. If you don’t know that, it is because you listen to some media that scours the planet for crackpots that believe completely differently.”
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That man has told you over and over again that he works with, and knows intimately, many people in that medical community, and you say this to him? That is just rude. Who is it that you believe is “scouring the planet for crackpots?” I’m curious.
Also, you used the word “medical” 3 times in the same sentence. Buy a thesaurus.
July 27th, 2020 at 5:33 pm
My Daughter is a Nurse..my son an Analytical Chemist working with Pharmaceuticals. I know a number of Doctors. So yes…I know people intimately in the Medical field..and you do too? Congratulations.
July 27th, 2020 at 6:03 pm
mark2001 Says:
“My Daughter is a Nurse..my son an Analytical Chemist working with Pharmaceuticals.”
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Ahhh. Now I’m curious which pharmaceutical company. Could it be Moderna, or another of these companies working on vaccines which are only necessary if we continue to buy what Dr Fauci is selling?
July 27th, 2020 at 7:04 pm
No…not Moderna… But a big company. He isn’t involved in vaccine development. I wish he was…if he was,he could have ended up being a wealthy man before he was thirty, if he was instrumental in developing a working vaccine.
July 27th, 2020 at 11:24 pm
@Bush’s Coke Spoon: did you watch those “Front Line Pghysicians” who spoke on the capital steps today, especially about HCQ?
The Joes don’t like links, but if you go to Bitchute* and search “FRONTLINE PHYSICIANS AIM TO DISPEL ‘MASSIVE’ COVID-19 ‘DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN’” you might learn something about therapies that are proven to work.
*Youtube killed the video, marked it as “private.” More censorship…
Once again: most of my working life was fighting on the front lines of an epidemic far more deadly than CV19. I was lucky to do want many had not done, establishing a new form of non-institutional care along with some other pioneers around the country. It was a fascinating period of my life and put me in a position to not have to “work” ever again. My businesses since have been for fun, not necessarily just for profit. I have, however, maintained strong contacts in the medical world, even here in the DR.
I am no naive amateur when it comes to the healthcare world, and know vastly more than the MSM talking heads spewing The Overlord talking points.
But, of course, OraNGe maN bAd…
July 28th, 2020 at 12:02 am
@Cobraboy
Thanks for the link. I’ll watch it later. If I’m not mistaken, Bitchute is located in the UK. The way the UK has been cracking down on free speech, I’m surprised that Bitchute hasn’t been taken down yet.
July 28th, 2020 at 12:02 am
@Cobraboy
Thanks for the link. I’ll watch it later. If I’m not mistaken, Bitchute is located in the UK. The way the UK has been cracking down on free speech, I’m surprised that Bitchute hasn’t been taken down yet. There is a wealth of information there.