Devin White Hosting Big Bash
July 10th, 2020
Bucs ILB Devin White.
A day after Bucs left tackle Donovan Smith openly confessed on social media it might not be worth it for him to potentially catch and expose his family to “The Sickness” by reporting to training camp, a teammate of Smith’s is saying, in so many words, “Eff that noise.”
Bucs linebacker Devin White is choosing to enjoy life, expecting to host thousands of partiers in his Louisiana hometown Saturday.
White will welcome up to 2,000 at his stables in Cotton Valley, La. The event will include a horse show and trail rides along with some four-wheeling. TMZ.com has the details.
The turnout is expected to be HUGE … the mayor of Cotton Valley, C.C. Cox, tells TMZ Sports he believes roughly 2,000 people — and maybe even more — will show up to the 20-acre property for the get-together.
But, Cox says he’s not anticipating it to be a coronavirus-concerned crowd … saying, to his knowledge, mask-wearing and social distancing will NOT be enforced at the event.
“He was raised here,” Cox said of the 22-year-old former LSU linebacker. “He wants to come into town and he wants to throw a big party.”
Louisiana state police will patrol the party to monitor traffic. TMZ asked a Louisiana state police spokesperson about social distancing practices and the spokesperson danced.
Normally Joe doesn’t give a flip about players hosting parties. Happens all the time both in the Tampa Bay area and in players’ hometowns.
Joe just found the timing to be very interesting. Just hours after Smith vented his frustrations, a high profile teammate plans to host an event with thousands, which will likely make the stay-at-home crowd nervous.
July 10th, 2020 at 9:49 pm
My question is…
B-B-Q or Jambalaya?
For 2000 people? Probably both, and then some
July 10th, 2020 at 9:51 pm
A whole lot of stupid.
July 10th, 2020 at 9:53 pm
And this is exactly whey the prospect of having a season with players all agreeing to play seems dim at best.
Because of course the year we sign Brady, the season would get canceled. That could only happen to the Bucs.
I’m hopeful the season happens, but right now it doesn’t feel like the chances are that high.
July 10th, 2020 at 10:02 pm
Not worried, Fl beaches are packed all the time.its 20 acres that’s a huge outdoor area
July 10th, 2020 at 10:06 pm
Some people just refuse to be controlled!
July 10th, 2020 at 10:08 pm
And you wonder why Smith and Shaq might be concerned about stepping on the field with some of the other teammates? Bingo.
July 10th, 2020 at 10:15 pm
In Louisiana? If they don’t have a hog roast, they are not doing it right.
July 10th, 2020 at 10:20 pm
gp Says:
“Some people just refuse to be controlled!”
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Americans used to refuse to be controlled.
Anyway, I can’t wait to find out if Donovan shows up!
July 10th, 2020 at 10:21 pm
Some people just refuse to be responsible!
July 10th, 2020 at 10:24 pm
Well if he comes out of this good to with 2000-3000 people at his home than what’s the big deal about playing 11 on 11 and Smith should get off his high horse these guys have access to medical care, testing, sanitation, and money that 90% of the people in this country could only dream about. NFL and NFLPA need to straighten this s*** out and start meeting in the middle on this stuff
July 10th, 2020 at 10:34 pm
Joe Says:
July 10th, 2020 at 10:15 pm
B-B-Q or Jambalaya?
In Louisiana? If they don’t have a hog roast, they are not doing it right.
Above or below ground?
There’s more than one way to roast a pig
July 10th, 2020 at 10:37 pm
mark2001 Says:
July 10th, 2020 at 10:21 pm
Some people just refuse to be responsible!
You should go!
You’d feel right at home on top of one of his horses
Preaching to everyone who comes near enough
Talk about social distancing!
July 10th, 2020 at 10:41 pm
What a moron.
July 10th, 2020 at 11:06 pm
18 days before training camp. Highly disappointed in white. I thought his leadership skills were paramount.
July 10th, 2020 at 11:34 pm
TMZ: “ We’re told event organizers will be encouraging social distancing and for people to wear masks and wash their hands.
We’re told the event — which includes a 6 mile trail ride — will raise money for local charities.”
July 10th, 2020 at 11:38 pm
Putting all of his teammates at risk. How stupid can you be?
July 10th, 2020 at 11:46 pm
647,457 Americans died of heart disease last year. Did you slap a double cheeseburger out of anyone’s hand?
July 11th, 2020 at 12:12 am
Hilarious reading all the “experts” information and data comparing Covid to Flu and other health issues in this post and earlier posts.
As we politely say in the south “God Bless You”….
I choose not to argue….no win. Best wishes for all and your family health.
July 11th, 2020 at 12:48 am
Lots of sheep ! I Will be in my seat. Anyone afraid or compromised should stay home where they feel safe. How the hell did we survive sars,mers and swine flu ? I swear half of society has been castrated.
July 11th, 2020 at 12:49 am
Chris l Says:
“Highly disappointed in white. I thought his leadership skills were paramount.”
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Leaders don’t submit to medical tyranny.
July 11th, 2020 at 12:51 am
Joe in Michigan Says:
“647,457 Americans died of heart disease last year. Did you slap a double cheeseburger out of anyone’s hand?”
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Excellent! Have a cigar!
July 11th, 2020 at 1:28 am
He’s an idiot if that’s what’s on mind right now.
He needs to be thinking about jewelry in February.
July 11th, 2020 at 6:13 am
Perhaps attendees have already been tested? Who knows? Maybe he only invited those who tested positive and recovered. Sean Payton contracted the ‘sickness’ with no evidence of complications. He lives In driving distance to the event, and he may have been invited. May be Ezekiel Elliott got an invite as well? It was reported that he contracted the ‘sickness’. The June 15th story on NFL dot com contained the following:
“Elliott’s agent told Rapoport that the Dallas standout is “feeling good.”
By now, Elliott is fully recovered from his own party, and he can’t wait to attend!
July 11th, 2020 at 6:49 am
Answer this question: If a person can choose to fly….inside, sitting right next to someone for up to hours…..then why can’t they choose to attend a football game outside?
July 11th, 2020 at 6:49 am
For me Devin is exactly like a lot of people on this site, very nice people but NOT very smart!!
July 11th, 2020 at 6:53 am
You’ve been disappointed in White’s play. I am now disappointed in his leadership skills, which, by hosting a party like this, prove that he values self over team — and partying over practice.
July 11th, 2020 at 7:12 am
Good for him considering this Covid nonsense is nothing more than a scam. Live your life. Take off your mask. Play football.
July 11th, 2020 at 7:51 am
When was the last time someone transferred heart disease from person to person?
July 11th, 2020 at 7:57 am
gp…you don’t watch real news, do you. New records every day…
Just fixing your sentence, as it has nothing to do with being controlled. It is about being a responsible human being. If you can’t see that…smh.
July 11th, 2020 at 8:00 am
Have fun, that’s what life should be about. Ignore the shaming cowards who fear everything, question nothing and stay at home. They aren’t living just existing. Blech…
July 11th, 2020 at 8:05 am
You can live and be safe at the same time. Just like driving and wearing a seatbelt.
July 11th, 2020 at 8:40 am
What could possibly go wrong.
July 11th, 2020 at 8:41 am
I hope none of you mask shamers have never had one or two Big Storms too many and jumped behind the wheel. Aways a stone always a glass house.
July 11th, 2020 at 8:50 am
To the guy comparing heart disease to coronavirus….
When did heart disease become highly contagious? The ignorance flaunted here and Fox News is astounding!!
July 11th, 2020 at 8:54 am
Don’t listen to the pu$$ies Devin.
Have fun!
July 11th, 2020 at 8:54 am
The ignorance flaunted here and Fox News is astounding!!
July 11th, 2020 at 8:57 am
Japan had less than 1000 deaths, unemployment at 2.6% and the economy never had to shut down…. Hope the morons blame themselves when there is no NFL season.. They won’t, because they are incapable of taking responsibility for their actions… Ya know, like adults do.
July 11th, 2020 at 9:02 am
mark2001 Says:
“gp…you don’t watch real news, do you. New records every day…”
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Mark, you don’t like facts do you? If you’ve had a cold in the last 5 years, you can test positive. Why keep helping liars and tyrants spread fear among your own people? C’mon, Man!
July 11th, 2020 at 9:10 am
Its not like he frantically scrambled to assemble a large party because of Smith.Pretty sure the party had been planned loooooong before. Its a free country ( right? )
White can do whatever he wants
July 11th, 2020 at 9:11 am
mark2001
You don’t seem to be getting the point.
There is no real news
Propaganda and misinformation is the rule of the day
No, it’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s human nature. When you tell a story, you include points that back up your beliefs to sway your listener.
Everyone does this, Bar none!
I listen, I observe, I keep my mind open to the many possibilities. I do NOT let anyone tell me what to think or believe! No groupthink for me.
Your incessant preaching, to those who mostly *are* wearing a mask when it makes sense, and social distancing, not for themselves but for the comfort of others, has grown, shall we say, a little tiring.
Your numbers are, at best, suspect. If all of your information comes from only one side of the discussion then you only have half the picture.
The difference between you and I, is that I do not profess to have all of the answers. And I will not allow myself to be led by the nose by someone who has a ‘bully pulpit’.
You believe what you want to believe. As for me? I’m still learning.
July 11th, 2020 at 9:12 am
Just open everything… you’ll be fine donovan smith
July 11th, 2020 at 9:13 am
With NFLPA’s paranoia there’s no way they’re going to allow a season to happen this year.
July 11th, 2020 at 9:13 am
You gotta get the virus to build immunity, get it over with… 99% survival rate
July 11th, 2020 at 9:15 am
OH, and by the way, *YOU* are not *QUALIFIED* to fix *MY* sentences
Take your ‘highhorse’ preaching elsewhere please
July 11th, 2020 at 9:21 am
Joe in Michigan Says:
July 10th, 2020 at 11:46 pm
647,457 Americans died of heart disease last year. Did you slap a double cheeseburger out of anyone’s hand?
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Heart disease isn’t contagious like a virus. Your analogy fails.
July 11th, 2020 at 9:24 am
gp doesn’t believe in personal responsibility in any forms, obviously. Take your fatalistic and hedonistic attitude elsewhere, please. Thirty one pregnant women identified as dying as a direct result of the Corona virus. On the news this morning. But everyone dies of something eventually….right?
July 11th, 2020 at 9:25 am
What the he11 does eating a cheese burger have to do with coronaviris? You can eat all the cheese burgers you want, you cant trasmit clogged arteries to me stupid. Drink all the liquor you want to, you cant transmit liver damage to me!!! You can however bring your idiotic coronavirus carrying not wearing a mask @$$ around me and transmit it to me in which i can go home and transmit it to my family. If you can’t understand this, then you are plain selfish. We are a dumb nation. Many nations have flatten the curve because they handled this thing correctly while we had nra nuts storming state capitals with fire arms. We have idiots crying about wearing mask and trying to argue constitutional rights etc. . You cant go to stores or resturants without shirt and shoes and that was before the virus. Is that messing with your “rights”? The government says click it or ticket. That means for the idiots out there, WEAR A SEAT BELT IN YOUR CAR!!!! Is that messing with your “rights”? He11 no so wearing a mask is not either. Stop being selfish and more importantly stop comparing the coronavirus to cheeseburgers!!
July 11th, 2020 at 9:27 am
Why cant t my comment come through joe?
July 11th, 2020 at 9:34 am
The Foundation for Economic Education says simply that “the economic incentive to add COVID-19 to diagnostic lists and death certificates is clear and does not require any conspiracy.”
The virus is real. The fear mongering is a hoax.
July 11th, 2020 at 9:40 am
Gp – just because your boy claims that any news service that reports negatively about him doesn’t mean it is fake news. You know what a lot of the news is, showing data and scientific reports that are produced by the epidemiologists who have spent there lives studying these things. The anti science movement in this country is why we are where we are now. So many people that probably got a D in 8th grade biology think they know more than the experts. Bunch of morons. This party by White is the exact opposite of leadership. Anyone that thinks that this is a good idea is an idiot. When we don’t have football this season remember what and others are doing. Beyond irresponsible of him.
July 11th, 2020 at 9:40 am
Their not there
July 11th, 2020 at 10:03 am
@TheBradyBunch
I suppose you still believe the global cooling… I mean global warming… I mean the climate change hoaxsters! They like to call themselves scientists, also.
The pseudo-science that gets shoved down our throats by the UN comes to us from the same people who called themselves witches and sorcerers hundreds of years ago. The same people who didn’t want peasants educated, so that they could be easily manipulated. The same ruling class bloodlines who would execute you if you were discovered to own a bible.
There’s a reason they have been dumbing down our education system for a generation or more, and it is because they need us to buy their deceptions. Don’t be a slave.
July 11th, 2020 at 10:19 am
gp Says:
July 11th, 2020 at 9:11 am
mark2001
You don’t seem to be getting the point.
There is no real news
Propaganda and misinformation is the rule of the day
No, it’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s human nature. When you tell a story, you include points that back up your beliefs to sway your listener.
Everyone does this, Bar none!
I listen, I observe, I keep my mind open to the many possibilities. I do NOT let anyone tell me what to think or believe! No groupthink for me.
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I feel like maybe you just regurgitated the ramblings of a certain late nite news host that rhymes with ‘pucker.’
July 11th, 2020 at 10:22 am
Etzel Says:
“Japan had less than 1000 deaths, unemployment at 2.6% and the economy never had to shut down…”
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You are absolutely right, but you don’t even know why. Japan, like a number of other countries, have been successful because they didn’t submit to UN hegemony. I bring you another Realist-inspired repost:
Bush’s Coke Spoon Says:
July 9th, 2020 at 5:18 pm
Do you want to know what countries have done the best? Countries who didn’t shut down their economies, shove people indoors, and close down the schools.
Taiwan has 25 million people and have reported 7 deaths. Japan has 121 million and less than 1000 deaths. Singapore has reported 12 deaths. Iceland a similar number. More importantly, these countries did not follow the WHO (UN) recommendations for treatment protocols. They stuck with what has worked for 100 years of known medical science for treating respiratory distress.
They didn’t abandon typical steps in breathing aid for pneumonia symptoms and go straight to intubation (like the WHO and CDC recommended), a treatment normally only used as a last resort because intubation is known to damage lungs and contribute to death. Instead they stuck with time-tested protocols and actually saved people.
They didn’t abandon hydroxychloroquine + zinc treatments because Dr Fauci said to. They used nebulized steroids like budesinide to heal lungs instead of shoving tubes into them and killing them.
There are doctors all over the world who have been silenced online, who have treated patients with hydroxychloroquine and zinc for decades with near 100% success. Budesinide and other steroid treatments are being suppressed online and by our own government. You would rather complain about anti-maskers, even though there is no evidence whatsoever that masking in public has any medical benefit, as verified by Dr Fauci HIMSELF!
You would prefer to continue blaming fellow Americans and never, ever question the orthodoxy of government functionaries who are ethically conflicted and known to have financial stakes in outcomes. You will never ever question government employees who get significant funding from the same private sector entities who also fund the CDC and the UNs WHO.
It’s a shame.
July 11th, 2020 at 10:35 am
Joseph Mamma Says:
“I feel like maybe you just regurgitated the ramblings of a certain late nite news host that rhymes with ‘pucker.’”
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There is a reason fascist corporate leftists are trying to force Tucker off of the air. It is because he is one of the few public figures left who refuses to be controlled by them. It is the fashion of the day to simply silence those with whom you cannot win a debate.
So you support fascism.
July 11th, 2020 at 10:40 am
Perfect example of why America is a joke. Idiots are compensated millions of dollars. Ask Novak Dojavic how living it up and his tennis event went?
As for football this year : players will be asked to live in a bubble. This is an example of not all will comply. This is why Tom Brady was brought in to set the tone of professionalism on this team. However , one moron can destroy the season because of how contagious this virus is.
Thanks Devin white for proving to all fans that most millionaire athletes are just morons who can’t hold a normal job if it wasn’t for their ability.
July 11th, 2020 at 10:45 am
Joseph Mamma: You’re bad for watching Tucker!!
Also Joseph Mamma: Whatever Chis Cuomo and Don Lemon tell me is the gospel truth!!
July 11th, 2020 at 11:07 am
“Experts”
LOL…
July 11th, 2020 at 11:08 am
Where are the record deaths?
Bueller? Bueller?
July 11th, 2020 at 11:17 am
Interesting read: “FL cases may be inflated by 30%”
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/data-suggest-floridas-record-breaking-coronavirus-days-may-have-been-0
Color me shocked.
Why people buy what the gubmint or their state news partners say lock, stock, and barrel is way beyond me.
Americans have lost the ability to use critical thinking honed with native intelligence and experience to analyze their surroundings.
July 11th, 2020 at 11:32 am
I hope all of those nursing home patients and people over 70 that pack Ray Jay every Sunday reconsider renewing their season tickets!!! Death rate in Florida drops every day from already low rates to begin with.
July 11th, 2020 at 11:34 am
‘Record deaths’ as in FL has broken its own daily death record multiple times in the last week? Those kind of records?
Oh and to whoever brought up heart disease- guess what? Heart diseases isn’t contagious.
And for the 8 millionth time- death isn’t the only negative consequence from catching it. But keep living in ignorance fans!
July 11th, 2020 at 11:44 am
This is for those who like to throw out the ‘science denier’ attack
The scientific process involves observation, inference, measurement, theorizing(hypothesis), and testing for proof. I probably left something out but I’d like to speak to these.
In reference to the ‘Rona’ we have observations, inference, and theorizing out the wazzoo. Measurement is still ongoing so the theorizing is premature and testing to proof may be years down the road if ever, considering the questionable measurements.
Some of *my* observations(opinionated to be sure)
Many, a sadly unmeasurable number, do not have any outward symptoms of exposure.
Of those who show symptoms, the vast majority are not severe.
Patients with underlying conditions such as obesity, pulmonary problems, heart disease, and diabetes, represent the worst cases/death count.
I noted obesity first because there is a strong link(yes there are exceptions) between obesity and all of the others.
China does not have a major problem, to the best of my knowledge, with obesity but they are(reportedly) heavy smokers.
Side note: The Chinese government is averse to admitting to any shortcoming(as are we all) and seems to have missed the origination of this situation. In their defense, the mild symptoms in the majority of cases and the tendency to affect those with (already) life threatening conditions disguised the contributing factor of the ‘Rona’. (Personally stress “contributing factor”)
With that said, it is my opinion that this actually started last summer in China, not December as our media want us to believe.
Inference:
While a mostly mild affliction, the ‘Rona’ can be a contributing factor in fatality for cases with underlying factors(noted above) and may expose underlying issues or impairments in those who are unaware of them. This can be said for just about any virus, especially those that affect the upper respiratory system.
Yes, it is dangerous and a killer, but most will not experience life threatening issues.
Measurement:
Sadly, there are too many variables here and much of the ‘reporting’ of the numbers has been politicized to an extent that the numbers are not usable in a scientific way. This ‘politicization’ started with China and has only gotten worse with our own media sensationalizing the issue.
Theorizing(hypothesis): Not yet possible. Observational data and measurable data do not match and may be polluted.
Test for proof: Of what? without hypothesis, theory, or clean accurate measurements, we’re not to this point yet.
Consider also (if you can) what this would have been like if there had been a ‘flu’ shot available for this virus last year.
Approximately 30% of the populace takes advantage of the flu shot annually. Those who have ‘high risk’ medical conditions are especially recommended to do this and most do.
Granted, this is a “what if” scenario and we are far beyond that.
I contend that ‘if’ this had occurred, that we would have seen a death count in line with last years flu. And NOBODY would be talking about it.
For comparison. the 1918 Spanish flu affected over 500 million worldwide, killing as many as 50 million. There were over 675,000 deaths in the US. which had a population of 103 million at the time, we were not nearly as crowded then.
With respect to those who have died or lost loved ones to this, I humbly propose that this is NOT the ‘monster’ virus that some would have us believe.
I do not purport to know their objectives for doing so much damage to the worlds economy (not just us), but the damage is being done.
Call me anything you want, but we’re all in the same boat on this one. And it’s leaking.
July 11th, 2020 at 11:45 am
Ignorance is alive and well in Bucville.
July 11th, 2020 at 11:46 am
FL has had a very low death rate. Even a small spike does not make it a disaster.
Fear Porn.
July 11th, 2020 at 11:46 am
@the bradybunch sounds like you get your numbers from cnn, which means theyre full of crap. Your orescious fata can be swayed so easily. Explain why a dude that dies in a car accident who hapoens to have covid ,is labeled a covid death? Please explain why hospitals get more money for each labeled covid death? Keep eating that grass sheep, and stay curled up in your little ball of safety with your mask on. The rest of us will live our lives. Im shocked you made it through sars just a few years ago without your precious mask.
July 11th, 2020 at 12:00 pm
Ah, well whenever someone calls others “sheep”, you just know they have a very valid point based on facts and reason, and not their own ignorant opinion.
July 11th, 2020 at 12:25 pm
CG- stop quoting that fake news. Go read the CDC website and other independent sources. You might actually learn something
July 11th, 2020 at 12:28 pm
This is very disappointing to me as a huge Devin White fan.
However I do not believe it’s connected in any way to D Smith’s choice. This party with police patrols and large crowd wasn’t concocted overnight. Probably a coincidence.
As for the debate…it breaks down to two sides…some who follow science some who follow their hearts. Some who think a quarter of a million deaths are not really a big deal…look how many people die in car crashes yet we still drive…however as Webster pointed out we do still accept seat belt laws and they are not even foolproof…how many folks die with their belts on?
I’m still waiting for an HONEST answer about us having 4.5% of the world’s population with over 20% of the deaths! How did other countries flattened their curves while ours is still spiking. Can anybody explain that to me.
July 11th, 2020 at 12:32 pm
Oh by the way- wearing a mask is about protecting other people not you. There have been lots of independent studios showing that mask wearing significantly diminishes the chance of spreading any disease with is transmitted through the air.
July 11th, 2020 at 12:41 pm
Bucnuts Says:
July 11th, 2020 at 12:32 pm
Oh by the way- wearing a mask is about protecting other people not you. There have been lots of independent studios showing that mask wearing significantly diminishes the chance of spreading any disease with is transmitted through the air.
There have also been studies that show that even N95 masks allow over 90% passage of virus’s of this nature.
Still an open debate
Where masks do help is… When I see someone wearing a mask, I know that they are in fear for their health and so I *respectfully* give them plenty of room(more than 6 ft if possible) for social distancing.
July 11th, 2020 at 12:43 pm
Unbelievable- how right you are. When people on this site have no facts or dont know what they are talking about, they name call trying to divert attention from their own lack of knowledge.Perhaps we shoukd just inject everyone with household bleach to eradicate the virus. hmmm name calling to mask weaknesses, sound like anyone you know?
July 11th, 2020 at 12:47 pm
CGMaster I get my news from the CDC, Bash CNN while I am sure you’re a big fan of Fox News which is the most biased “mainstream” media source by far. Just stick your head in the sand and believe that nobody is dying from Coronvirus. My wife is a registered nurse. Hospitals are filling up and it ain’t because of car crashes.
July 11th, 2020 at 1:11 pm
LOL CG the big tough guy. “I don’t listen to doctors I’m a bad ass!” I listen to the CDC, you know experts who are highly educated on this stuff. I don’t wear the mask for me moron, I wear it to protect others. You know, being kind of a decent human being. Fwiw, my wife is a registered nurse and the hospitals are filling up and it ain’t from car crashes. But you just bury yourself in your Fox News and conservative FB posts and tell yourself people who listen to the experts are sheep.
July 11th, 2020 at 1:18 pm
gp: “Denier” is code for “you don’t believe what the Glorious Leaders are selling.”
It is meant as a means to socially shame a non-thinking person into loyal compliance with Group Think.
The exact method was the prime strategery during the Chinese Cultural Revolution (that resulted in 20,000,000 deaths). But in China, if re-education camps didn’t work the leaders would just disappear a person.
Do not think today’s Correct Thought Leader’s discount that future possibility.
Confusion = Panic, which is the objective of The Overlords. Fact is some make better serfs than Free Men.
July 11th, 2020 at 1:19 pm
covid parties seem to really be in style now…
other countries are laughing at us as soft americans who are unable to control the virus…
while they buckle down, mask up, and give the virus little opportunity to thrive within their community…
most asian countries have really followed rules and thwarted the growth of covid…
July 11th, 2020 at 1:21 pm
unbelievable Says:
Ah, well whenever someone calls others “deniers”, you just know they have a very valid point based on facts and reason, and not their own ignorant opinion.
See how that works, Loyal Comrade?
July 11th, 2020 at 1:33 pm
gp, the virus being small enough to pass through most masks is not a question. It definitively is small enough. But the vast majority of particles that it’s carried in or not. Those particles, are the ones that the mask hold back and traps. Even rudimentary masks do a decent job of this. The better masks do a great job of this. Just wanted to make sure the misnomer of masks not giving adequate protection against the virus was dispelled in an easily consumable fashion. The virus doesn’t float along by its lonesome, it’s always carried along with other much larger elements.
July 11th, 2020 at 1:40 pm
Alanbucsfan Says:
July 11th, 2020 at 9:34 am
The Foundation for Economic Education says simply that “the economic incentive to add COVID-19 to diagnostic lists and death certificates is clear and does not require any conspiracy.”
The virus is real. The fear mongering is a hoax.
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They don’t care. I’m convinced that the zombie movies were all just biographical documentaries, because you cannot use plain English and logic any more. The response will always be the same no matter how many history books, medical doctors, hospital administrators, and biology facts are put in front of them. If it doesn’t come from the television, they will all just say:
“But muh mask!”
July 11th, 2020 at 1:51 pm
OH, you mean like, vaping?
JK, also aware of that, I just have this aversion to “half’ stories and “half’ truths
Good catch though, there’s always more than two sides or views to an argument!
July 11th, 2020 at 1:57 pm
42 percent of all COVID deaths in the US come from just three states—New Jersey, New York, and Massachusetts.
If these three states are excluded, the US suddenly finds itself somewhere in between nations such as Luxembourg (176/1M) and Macedonia (166/1M), where some of the better fatality numbers in Europe are found.
https://fee.org/articles/3-states-account-for-42-percent-of-all-covid-19-deaths-in-america-why/
July 11th, 2020 at 2:02 pm
unbelievable Says:
‘Record deaths’ as in FL has broken its own daily death record multiple times in the last week? Those kind of records?
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Wrong. Thank you for playing. Please try again!
July 11th, 2020 at 2:04 pm
just as I suspected. Mr. White is not that smart after all.
July 11th, 2020 at 2:10 pm
stpete
* I’m still waiting for an HONEST answer *
You question has a flawed premise. As such, it cannot be answered to your liking. You see, there are far too many variables affecting the way the numbers have been reported, and those differences flummox any effort at a truly scientific accounting.
You accuse others of being science ‘deniers’ and yet you can’t see this obvious problem?
July 11th, 2020 at 2:12 pm
Snakeboy, I checked your source for that report that claims Florida rates MAY be 30% inflated. It’s that time tested, reliable, nan-partisan “Just the News”. Great site! Even had a sign up encouraging Chuck Schumer into quitting. real non-partisan.
” Cases a day have nearly doubled in Florida, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. More than 40 hospitals across the state maxed out their intensive care unit capacity, NBC News reported.”
Here is something from the Real World. You know Johns Hopkins and NBC. Oh, I forgot that is all fake news. Not like the inside truth put out by “Just the News”. Who is the editor of that group- -Kelly Ann Conway?
GP, did you go to school or just go straight to stupid?
July 11th, 2020 at 2:18 pm
Bucnuts Says:
“Go read the CDC website and other independent sources.”
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LOL. CDC and independent do not even belong in the same sentence. And you think you are educated. You disqualify yourself from this debate before you even start.
The CDC is a government agency. NOT independent. They also get significant funding from the Gates Foundation. Definitely not independent.
Thank you for playing. Please try againagain!
July 11th, 2020 at 2:19 pm
bucsfaninoregon
OW!
That really really hurts!
Pone ubi sol non lucet!
After yo get back out, try to think for yourself for a change!
July 11th, 2020 at 2:21 pm
yeah, I stole it
July 11th, 2020 at 2:26 pm
Cgmaster27 Says:
“Im shocked you made it through sars just a few years ago without your precious mask.”
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LOL
He lucked out because they lied about those death statistics, also! But will he learn from history? Survey says… don’t count on it!
July 11th, 2020 at 2:30 pm
@cobraboy- I never used the word “denier”, but thanks for your comment I guess?
Bush’s Coke Spoon Says:
July 11th, 2020 at 2:02 pm
Wrong. Thank you for playing. Please try again!
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Hmmm, really? FL daily deaths:
6/16 – 55 deaths
6/23 – 64 deaths
7/3 – 68 deaths
7/9 – 120 deaths
7/11 (today) – only 93 deaths so far, but the day is only halfway over.
But your partially right, the record was broken multiple times over the last several weeks, not just one week as I stated.
My bad. I guess that means everything is under control!
July 11th, 2020 at 2:36 pm
Bucnuts Says:
“There have been lots of independent studios showing that mask wearing significantly diminishes the chance of spreading any disease with is transmitted through the air.”
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Please provide links to these studies. I have read many of these so-called studies, and none of them have any scientific conclusions. They are fake. They all have the words “may,” night,” “probably,” etc in their conclusions.
Maybe you should go back to step one and research the scientific method and how clinical studies are conducted. There is nothing conclusive or scientific about maybe may and might.
July 11th, 2020 at 2:37 pm
Bush’s Coke Spoon Says:
July 11th, 2020 at 10:35 am
Joseph Mamma Says:
“I feel like maybe you just regurgitated the ramblings of a certain late nite news host that rhymes with ‘pucker.’”
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There is a reason fascist corporate leftists are trying to force Tucker off of the air. It is because he is one of the few public figures left who refuses to be controlled by them. It is the fashion of the day to simply silence those with whom you cannot win a debate.
So you support fascism.
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Mr. Bush Spoon, I wasn’t trying to win any kind of debate, or even debate. Just wanted to point out the irony of someone who claims to not let anyone tell them what to do or think, share stuff that they in fact heard someone else say.
If someone has one original thought their entire life, that in and of itself is a miracle and accomplishment. I think maybe Einstein said that. But nobody lives in a vacuum and is not influenced by others actions and words.
But since this is buc’s blog and not whatever these thread has become, I feel like White’s party is not smart for the health of his NFL football team and generally a dumb idea. Probably won’t matter too much in the long run but why risk it.
July 11th, 2020 at 2:48 pm
stpetebucsfan Says:
“I’m still waiting for an HONEST answer about us having 4.5% of the world’s population with over 20% of the deaths! How did other countries flattened their curves while ours is still spiking. Can anybody explain that to me.”
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You are so incredibly dishonest. People have been answering that monotony for days. Either you don’t bother revisiting the threads where you ask it, or you prefer to ignore the answers.
This link is to my comment in THIS VERY THREAD, which I guess you didn’t like, so you ignore. It is the same answer I gave you previously, but I edited your name out of this comment because I didn’t want to seem like I was calling you out. But since you are here…
https://www.joebucsfan.com/2020/07/devin-white-hosting-big-bash/#comment-4342564
July 11th, 2020 at 2:53 pm
@Bucnuts
Honestly, I am starting to believe that you are working one of Hillary’s troll farms. You answer facts and links and real data with drivel. You aren’t even a good troll.
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July 11th, 2020 at 2:58 pm
TheBradyBunch Says:
“I get my news from the CDC, Bash CNN while I am sure you’re a big fan of Fox News which is the most biased “mainstream” media source by far.”
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The reason you think FOX is biased, is because they are the only source that is actually objective and gives both sides of issues, while you are used to only hearing what reinforces your own opinion, which is the ACTUAL definition of biased news.
July 11th, 2020 at 3:10 pm
Joseph Mamma
You were referring to my post
I assure you sir that I do not get my views and opinions from the “idiot box’ (TV)
Print and radio for me, with a gawdawful lot of salt!
July 11th, 2020 at 3:21 pm
@Alanbucsfan
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Wow thank you for that link. Quote from the story:
“To act on the belief that we possess the knowledge and the power which enable us to shape the processes of society entirely to our liking, knowledge which in fact we do not possess, is likely to make us do much harm. The recognition of the insuperable limits to his knowledge ought indeed to teach the student of society a lesson of humility which should guard him against becoming an accomplice in men’s fatal striving to control society – a striving which makes him not only a tyrant over his fellows, but which may well make him the destroyer of a civilization which no brain has designed but which has grown from the free efforts of millions of individuals.”
~ 1974 Nobel Prize-winning economist F A Hayek
For those who don’t get it, this is a clear rebuke of the Soviet system, which was based on centrally-controlled economic “planning.” That same system is all the rage among the little Marxists of today. You can see the results in NY and NJ nursing homes.
July 11th, 2020 at 3:26 pm
“The reason you think FOX is biased, is because they are the only source that is actually objective and gives both sides of issues, while you are used to only hearing what reinforces your own opinion, which is the ACTUAL definition of biased news.”
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Oh man, that was good. Thanks for the laugh, troll.
July 11th, 2020 at 3:32 pm
bucsfaninoregon Says:
“Snakeboy, I checked your source for that report that claims Florida rates MAY be 30% inflated. It’s that time tested, reliable, nan-partisan “Just the News”.”
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There you go with your Saul Alinsky tactics again. If you can show me that source lying or giving disinformation, that is one thing. But you don’t. You just attack the source for being who they are. That is dishonest.
That story is well cited, so in order to discredit it, you have to demonstrate that their sources are either wrong, or that they misquote the source. You have done neither. You are a dishonest broker. Go research the scientific method and debate ethics.
July 11th, 2020 at 3:33 pm
Coker: “They are fake. They all have the words “may,” night,” “probably,” etc in their conclusions.”
Dear Coker, I know this will be tough, but try to concentrate. The fact that they use may and might instead of “will” stop the virus transmission is EXACTLY why you should pay them attention. Imagine if Fauci said, “Wearing a mask will completely stop the virus.” It is incorrect on the face of it. It may stop it from getting you or not. What they ALL have said is that wearing masks “does slow the spread”. You may be unlucky and get a full viral load when coming in close contact with an infected person – -or not.
Case in point: Drs. and nurses wouldn’t come near a virus patient without a mask. Some still get infected but many do not.
IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?
You, I’m afraid, are used to news sources that deal in absolutes. Like “this is no worse than the flu”, “It will disappear magically”, and the ever popular, “Hillary is a crook!”
Sorry, the real world has many uncertainties and few absolutes.
July 11th, 2020 at 3:38 pm
To all the freedom loving patriots on this site. When you or a family member gets sick come back and let us know how it turned out.
July 11th, 2020 at 3:44 pm
We all need to stop letting media outlets tell us which way is up. Someone elses agenda is being pushed and we’re all supposed to just take it as gospel, no thanks.
July 11th, 2020 at 3:45 pm
@unbelievable
Alright. I stand corrected. I thought you were conflating cases and deaths. Our death rate has been so flat that even these numbers do not jump out as alarming, though.
You were right.
July 11th, 2020 at 4:10 pm
Joseph Mamma said:
“I feel like White’s party is not smart for the health of his NFL football team and generally a dumb idea. Probably won’t matter too much in the long run but why risk it.”
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That is a totally reasonable opinion, and I really do not intend to belittle anyone who wants to wear a mask and social distance.
My whole thing here is that lots of people want to put responsibility on ME for their well-being. That is wrong. It goes against natural law, and goes against what our legal system is supposed to be about.
If someone is worried, they wear a mask to protect themselves. Then they don’t have to worry about what anyone else does. When that concept is twisted around to make us each responsible for each other, you are getting into the realm of mass psychological manipulation, and that is wrong. Anybody who had a decent history education will recognize this manipulation, because it is how both the Soviets and the Nazis started revolutions.
Unfortunately, most people today don’t get a decent history education, and the reason is because those responsible for teaching us are deliberately hiding that history so that we don’t recognize what is happening. I honestly believe that we are in the throes of a revolution now. I am scared for my country and spend my time trying to open people’s eyes. Revolutions never end well, not for those on EITHER side. The elites use people and then discard them–even the people who helped them win. Look up what happened to the Brown Shirts in Germany.
Only united can we stand against them.
July 11th, 2020 at 5:06 pm
bojim Says:
“To all the freedom loving patriots on this site. When you or a family member gets sick come back and let us know how it turned out.”
My parents are both in their 70s, and neither wears a mask. They understand nutrition as well as freedom.
July 11th, 2020 at 5:13 pm
@unbelievable
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Just so you understand, the statistic that you cited was raw total deaths. You were correct, but that is not the important statistic for determining risk.
The more important statistic is deaths per case. As a percentage of positive cases, our numbers continue to go down.
Peace, Brother!
July 11th, 2020 at 7:02 pm
bojim: You say “freedom loving patriot” like it’s a bad thing. You should be thankful for the freedom loving patriots.
July 11th, 2020 at 7:23 pm
@BCS – yes but we know that deaths lag positive cases by as much as 4 – 6 weeks.
And the positive test rate in FL has exploded to over 19% recently, even with all the increased testing. That is not a good sign.
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“My whole thing here is that lots of people want to put responsibility on ME for their well-being. That is wrong”
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But that is a total misunderstanding on your part.
They are simply asking you to be an unselfish and decent member of your community, through an incredibly minor inconvenience.
People have been asked to sacrifice far more in the past than being asked to wear a mask for a few minutes while inside a store.
July 11th, 2020 at 9:01 pm
£uck this.
This has become an absolute trash blog.
July 12th, 2020 at 2:03 am
Apologies to any history scholars out there. I should have said, “Anybody who had a decent MODERN history education…”
July 12th, 2020 at 2:54 am
unbelievable said:
“They are simply asking you to be an unselfish and decent member of your community, through an incredibly minor inconvenience.”
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You are doing exactly what I described, and I promise I am not misunderstanding anything! The left typically makes emotional appeals as opposed to logical arguments. It is a very effective tactic, because we are all emotional beings. It is way easier to make emotional arguments than it is to make logical arguments. (i am not doing a good job explaining–i am hammered)
The dumbing down of the education system plays right into this tactic, because uneducated people understand emotions easily, but may be lost in an intellectual debate.
Each of us is capable of protecting our own health, and each are in the best position to know our own weaknesses and medical needs. You take the precautions necessary for your health, and if you do so, you will not need to rely on my behavior.
“They are simply asking you to” respect natural rights, and meet your own responsibilities to your own self and your own family.
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“Persuasion is the attempt to persuade an audience to believe an idea or to take an action, using the three “artistic” appeals: ethos (ethical), pathos (emotional), and logos(rational). The most effective means of persuasion is emotional (as advertising and public relations folks know)…”
‘In his Rhetoric, Aristotle defined rhetoric as “an ability, in each particular case, to see the available means of persuasion.” ‘
July 12th, 2020 at 11:07 am
My GF works in a boutique wearing a mask. If a customer (you?) comes in sans mask and speaks to her while buying something they could easily pass on the virus. Less EZ if wearing a mask. But, no. That’s YOUR right to infect who you want. Imagine your 70 year old parents are standing next to them. Still OK?
July 12th, 2020 at 3:37 pm
@bucsfaninoregion:
Once again, shooting the messenger is really weak sauce, but it’s not the first weak sauce you’ve parroted.
Follow the links in Payne’s piece. Therein is where the 30% comes from. HE didn’t create it; he extrapolated the DATA to come up with the number.
But I DO understand True Believers will discount any facts or data they refute their secular religion.
July 12th, 2020 at 3:47 pm
Bush’s Coke Spoon Says:
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“Shooting the messenger” is a key component of “cancel culture.” Anyone with a solid knowledge of history—and history is not taught in school anymore, nor do teachers encourage curiosity—would know that “shooting the messenger” cost 20,000,000 lives in Mao’s Cultural Revolution. If one cited a non-Mao source in a casual conversation, their demise was guaranteed.
I doubt bucANTIFAsnowflakeinoregon even bothered to read that article which is thoroughly cited and documented.
But since it does not fit the narrative, OFF WITH HIS HEAD.
This behavior is typical of Loyal Comrades of The Glorious Progressive Revolution.
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Has it occurred to anyone that the mask issue shows The Overlords who are the ones most easily controlled, and who the Free Thinker problems are?
July 12th, 2020 at 4:40 pm
Since some fap to “experts” I offer this from The Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, vis-a-vis masks, or what I refer to as “Suppression Muzzles:”
COMMENTARY: Masks-for-all for COVID-19 not based on sound data
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July 12th, 2020 at 10:47 pm
So he’s throwing a covid party! Grrreeeeaaaat! Where do we find these dolts! Bucs draft the dumbest players and this is proof positive.
July 13th, 2020 at 11:18 am
The pushback against Fauci continued on Sunday when Admiral Brett Giroir, the Trump-appointed coronavirus testing tsar, told NBC that Fauci “is not 100% right” and that he doesn’t necessarily “have the whole national interest in mind”, adding that “he looks at it from a very narrow public health point of view”.
Snakehead…. this is for your anti-virus scrapbook.