More Bridgewater Chatter
March 9th, 2020A man who has a direct connection to a Bucs shot-caller seems to believe a backup quarterback has a very good chance of winding up in Tampa Bay next week when the free agency dinner bell rings.
That would be Saints quarterback Teddy Bridgewater.
JC Cornell, the man who runs TheDraftNetwork.com and has direct access to someone very high up the food chain at One Buc Palace, came out over the weekend to suggest Bridgewater, currently a Saints backup, has the best chance to end up with the Bucs.
Teddy Bridgewater is the front runner right now for the Buccaneers
— JC Cornell (@CornellNFL) March 5, 2020
This is very interesting to Joe because Bridgewater doesn’t seem to be an Arians kind of guy. Bridgewater has never been a deep-ball thrower (notice Joe didn’t use the word “can’t?”) and is more of a game-manager then an explosive passer.
And Arians’ offense is not known as a dink-and-dunk kind of an offense.
Joe will write this: If Arians is going to go with Bridgewater, he better learn quick how to use tight ends in his offense and for goodness sakes, and can he have a come-to-Jesus moment and fess up that his running attack needs a serious upgrade?
Joe is not suggesting Cornell is offbase, but Bridgewater being a Bucs starting quarterback has never added up given Arians’ history. If Arians is going to adjust his offense, then it isn’t just who starts at quarterback that may need adjusting.
March 9th, 2020 at 12:06 am
a tweet from 4 days ago!
March 9th, 2020 at 12:06 am
Brady. Throwing to Evans and OBJ. You read it here first! ;P
March 9th, 2020 at 12:14 am
bucshot Says:
“a tweet from 4 days ago!”
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It’s early March. Take what you can get this time of year!
March 9th, 2020 at 12:16 am
Go Vipers! 1:50 left to go 80 yards!
March 9th, 2020 at 12:18 am
If he goes that route of bringing in Teddy at about 17 mil a year vs paying Jameis 27-30 mil he’ll have the money to upgrade that running attack.
BTW Bowles coached Teddy so he should have a good idea of what he’s capable of.
March 9th, 2020 at 12:32 am
Interesting saving about 10 million to spend to sign others. “Forcing” Arians to use 2 talented TEs. Trading erratic yet very talented Winston for less talented but still good Bridgewater (not interception prone). All sounds like a situation to take a chance on.
March 9th, 2020 at 12:40 am
I saw a report where Teddy was asking for 30 mil a year if true I would rather keep Jameis on a tag build D through free agency Safety Devin Mc, DL Leonard Williams, Shaq franchise tag, Cut Brate sign Suh if reasonable then go OT in Draft along with RB, OLB, and WR, developmental QB
1st-OT
2nd-OLB
3rd-RB Cam
4th-WR
4th/5th-QB
March 9th, 2020 at 12:56 am
I just wanna comment on the guy that post under NDog you sir are truly clueless.
March 9th, 2020 at 1:17 am
Arians offense isn’t deep shots (over 30 yds) on every throw that just happens to be all that Jameis stays out of trouble with. It’s either the WR’s catch it or it’s overthrown. Jameis is just under 47% on deep throw completions compared to the rest of the league average of 38%. Jameis gets in more trouble with intermediate and short passes, where Bridgewater has been more accurate and makes a higher percentage of his passes. He keeps the chains moving unlike the new modern day Mad Bomber where it’s an all or nothing track meet.
March 9th, 2020 at 1:34 am
Look! Another squirrel for you tweeps to click on!
Geez! Everyone and their mother has a prediction.
March 9th, 2020 at 1:40 am
sign the vipers running backs and qb don cornelious…
lol…
i actually do like wr reece horn as a possession type receiver tho…brady would make him a star
March 9th, 2020 at 1:42 am
oops…taylor cornelious…
don cornelious was the king on the tv show “soul train”
🙂
March 9th, 2020 at 1:43 am
bridgewater to bridge the gap…
???
i think not !
March 9th, 2020 at 1:50 am
Still questioning the head coach or trying to run Arians off. The animosity over Arians wanting to move on from jameis is deep. We have had one season with the head coach. Can we give him an off-season to build the team and see what his plan is before speculating? I know he has long developing routes, but do you think he might have a few routes that a receiver like Godwin could make big yac because a of those big play routes? If teddy can hit those timing routes jameis isn’t good at this offense could be as explosive without the interceptions
March 9th, 2020 at 2:43 am
Just watched some highlights of teddy b’s 2015/16 seasons. He had a bomb 65 yards in the air Diggs. And plenty of 30+ yard passes. I don’t know if his confidence is totally back from the injury, but he did have 1300 yard in his five starts and spot duty last year.
I see him being a smart football player getting the ball into players makers hands without making bad mistakes. That is winning football.
Jameis is a great thrower that tries to win the game on every play. That’s where I believe his bad decisions come from. He wants the highlight play every play, which it is a highlight, but not for his team half the time. Can it be coached out? I bet Arians tried. He may realize he has to ride pine for a bit to get it through.
But in the end a gamer is more likely to win than a baller
March 9th, 2020 at 3:22 am
FB,
Surprised that you felt the need to actually watch teddys film. Surprised and concerned. Surprised you didn’t accept the local community of nfl experts and their consensus opinion. Concerned that you have gone to far and thought for yourself.
You should lay low as to avoid being ostracized and run outta town on a broke back mule. Come back when you watch teddy launch an 80yder. Then you can assimilate back into the new group of experts who told you teddy could launch rockets for nasa. Only no one listened. Keep a straight face , be arrogant and belligerent and your safe again. Just stay away from the film from here out.
March 9th, 2020 at 3:46 am
Im on board! But I still think we land Brady. Either one will do though.
And that means beefing up the O line with Wirfs or Becton! They probably wont be there at 14 though. So trade down to the bottom of the 1st/top of 2nd…..DE/DT Marlon Davidson.
then
(2nd) Claypool WR/TE (cut Brate)
(2nd, mid) RB Clyde/Dobbins
(3rd, top) FS/Nickel CB Ashtyn Davis
(3rd, bottom), RT Ben Bartch
(4th, top) QB Anthony Gordon
(5th, top) RB Patrick Taylor
March 9th, 2020 at 4:41 am
Don Cornelius of Soul Train fame would’ve been calm and cool in the huddle.
I’d rather have Bridgewater than Rivers.
March 9th, 2020 at 5:39 am
Someone ‘very high up in the food chain’ Joe could also be taken as Cornell has been talking to the guy who runs the concessions at RayJay. Strikes me as being akin to ‘Word on the street’.
BA appears to be very good about letting Todd Bowles ‘do his own thing’ with this defense. I wonder if he gives Byron that same latitude with the offense? I keep circling back to a primary question … ‘Whose offense is this REALLY?’ Is it Byron Leftwich’s offense to plan & execute as he desires, or is it still BA’s offense & BL is just a puppet? Or is it a truly collaborative effort in which each ‘gives & takes’ a little?
The answer IMO is important. Right now this coaching staff’s record in Tampa Bay is 7-9. The Bucs’ offense put up tons of points & yards last season, and yet ‘left a LOT on the table’ because of giveaways, penalties, lack of a credible running game, and lack of a credible short passing game. ‘Bombs Away’ worked & was very entertaining, BUT … it relied much too heavily on the performance of Mike Evans & Chris Godwin IMO. In short, it needs better BALANCE.
We had solid receiving weapons in OJ & Cam who were underutilized, and a lot of ‘bad stuff’ seemed to happen in the short passing area for some reason. We also had a somewhat better than average TOP (30:54) on the season (#9), which is actually low considering that we were #5 in Offensive Plays per Game Average (67.9). A better running game AND short passing game would probably help increase BOTH TOP & Plays/Game, and oh ya, decrease the giveaways and keep our defense more rested up.
The question is … Will BA or BL or both ADJUST the offensive attack in that direction based on last season’s experience? I think they will, IF the weapons are there.
March 9th, 2020 at 6:24 am
For the 900th time. Winston is a free-agent and will not be involved in any trade.
March 9th, 2020 at 7:16 am
Buc50, I’m sure he means exchange Winston for Bridgwater as in get rid of one for the other. As for Bridgwater, all QBs in the NFL can throw 30-40 yards I’m n the air. How many times did we actually throw passes that traveled more than 40 yards? I don’t know if Arians really wants Bridgewater but if he does, I’ll trust his evaluation.
March 9th, 2020 at 7:21 am
Bridgewater threw plenty of air under the ball against the Bucs last year and I do think his arm is pretty weak.
March 9th, 2020 at 7:53 am
Starting qb money has got to be more then 17 mil per
Not sure he would be had for that cheap
March 9th, 2020 at 8:01 am
In regards to vertical offense
Pretty sure jameis struggled with his deep ball until last year until it improved
Down field is more 20-40 yards passes which any qb in nfl should be able to do
And not so much dink and dunk
Bucs have all kinda if weapons at receiver and tight end that have not been used
March 9th, 2020 at 8:19 am
JC Cornell, the man who runs TheDraftNetwork.com and has direct access to someone very high up the food chain at One Buc Palace.
and from January 14, 2020 on this site:
Now why does Joe bring you word from Cornell that is unattributed? Because Joe knows Cornell has a direct pipeline to a shot-caller high up the Bucs food chain.
Ok so you have doubled down on JC Cornell.
In January Cornell it was high possibility that Bucs move on from Jameis.
Neither of these predictions are 100 percent. Yet if the Buc’s stay with Jameis than this is the last that anyone should consider JC Cornell and his high-up shot caller as something we should listen to. Right?
March 9th, 2020 at 8:20 am
The more I hear Joe talk about the Bucs offense the more and more I realize he/she whoever writes for this site doesn’t watch the All 22 or never played the game past the Highschool level
Arians scheme isn’t 4 40 yard routes every play
Lot of intermediate options and throws in the system
March 9th, 2020 at 8:48 am
can we please bring in don cornelious…
and make tampa cool again !
🙂
March 9th, 2020 at 9:05 am
For years people busted Koetter’s chops for not adjusting his squads to his players. Smith too for not working in Darrell Reavis. But, I think BA pretty much knows what to do.
But I’d rather get Teddy in here and expect BA to be a dynamic coach and make happen what needs to, than to keep the status quo and think (hope) things will suddenly be different.
I never bought into the “Well, it takes two years for BA’s system because it’s so complex.” BS!
BA and the GM live or die with who they bring in, and what they do. Don’t bank on Winston, and be ready to adjust for who the QB is…and all will be good for all.
March 9th, 2020 at 11:02 am
D1, I am crying I laughed so loud over your post. But we live a Bucs life and must be a big masochistic this time of year. If reporters didn’t berate us over logic thought and discussion, we might actually get upset at the losing. Thankfully Arians isn’t a coach to be swayed by childish banter and actual have the professionals who do the analysis to make the right decision some of us logical fans try to figure out.
March 9th, 2020 at 11:24 am
I remember Bridgewater connecting on a few nice deep posts and a couple other deep routes last year while he was carving up our Bucs D…
Check out his best throws against us in that game… He looks WAY more polished than Winston obv
https://www.neworleanssaints.com/video/teddy-bridgewater-s-best-throws-vs-bucs-week-5
March 9th, 2020 at 11:26 am
I would rather pay Teddy 17 Million and win than pay Jay Miss 30 Million and watch him throw 5000 yards and 30 Picks to other color Jerseys and go 7 & 9 again!!!
March 9th, 2020 at 11:42 am
At JoeBucFan, haters are gonna hate.
Let’s stick with a poor decision maker like JayMiss instead of a proven winner like Bridgewater.
JayMiss has had 5 years to establish himself as a franchise QB.
He failed miserably.
Peace, out
March 9th, 2020 at 1:18 pm
Where are you guys getting $17MM? Is there are source that is reporting $17MM?
Foles signed a four year deal for $22MM/year. I’d be shocked if Teddy comes in under that.
I’m guessing Teddy gets $106MM-$114MM ($26.5 – $28.5 avg) with a 2 year guaranty. Hovering right around the franchise tag seems logical for both sides.
March 9th, 2020 at 8:12 pm
Teddy will get a prove it deal. Tampa is the right place for him. Evans and Godwin are great possession receivers. Jameis has never been a great placer of the ball. He isn’t a quarterback who has quick instincts and good timing with his receivers.
Evans would catch 100 balls with Bridgewater throwing to him. I always felt the receivers had to wait for Jameis to chuck it. How many times did Evans get clobbered in the back waiting on a high Winston balls.
Get these guys the ball faster and they’ll get some YAC.
It’s not dunk and dunk when you catch an 8 yard pass and get 5-6 yards of YAC.
With Jameis slow delivery caught balls turned into quick tackles.
I can’t wait to see what this offense will look like with a QB that doesn’t hold on to the ball trying for the home run vs a quick delivered ball to a moving target