Brady A Steep Price For Bucs
March 4th, 2020
Brady on Brady and the Bucs.
From a football standpoint, it seems a stretch to envision Future Hall of Fame quarterback Tom Brady in a Bucs uniform this fall.
And Joe has maintained from a (non-football) business standpoint for Brady, it may not be the best move.
Former NFL quarterback Brady Quinn also thinks it would be a stunner if Brady came to the Bucs.
In a conversation about the status of Mr. Entertainment, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, Quinn brought up where Bucs coach Bucco Bruce Arians’ lust, Brady, comes into play.
Comments from Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht and Arians last week at the combine in Indianapolis show they have newfound doubts or have soured on Jameis. So Quinn thinks the Bucs would almost have to reach out to Brady or Philip Rivers to gauge if there may be any interest.
“Wouldn’t you want to get a feeler on them before you decide on Jameis?” Quinn asked his fellow co-host Bruce Murray yesterday during a broadcast of “The Blitz,” heard exclusively on SiriusXM NFL Radio.
Quinn believes Arians and Licht were not spinning last week, that they haven’t made a final decision of Jameis.
“This is musical chairs, and there are not enough chairs for all of these quarterbacks,” Quinn said. “Someone is going to have to sacrifice, whether it is Jameis Winston or Teddy Bridgewater, who knows? Marcus Mariota? Who knows who is going to have to be sacrificed?”
Quinn saying “sacrifice” seemed to mean bite the bullet and take a team-friendly deal or claw for a backup job somewhere.
But as far as Brady coming to Tampa, Quinn thinks because of the Bucs’ long losing resume and itchy trigger-finger with head coaches in the post-Chucky era, it would take a substantial chunk of Team Glazer loot to lure Brady to Tampa Bay.
Or, something more valuable than cash.
“Look, a team like that and an organization like that, would have to pay [Brady] a lot of money, in my opinion,” Quinn said. “Or, maybe do something that is unprecedented and I don’t even know exactly what that means. I don’t think an organization would give up a piece of equity.”
Joe doesn’t even know if it is allowed under league rules to give a player a piece of a team. Just a hunch, if it was allowed, Peyton Manning or Dan Marino or Brady himself would already be partial team owners.
That doesn’t mean as part of Brady’s potential contract with the Bucs, he couldn’t be given an option to buy a piece of the team after he retires — or there is a handshake agreement like this made behind closed doors.
Despite past rumors of the Bucs being for sale, Team Glazer has been adamant that the team is not and has not been. As much cash as an NFL team rakes in — which should grow with the coming new TV/internet contracts — why would any NFL owner want to unload something that prints more money than a Vegas casino? An NFL team is one of the most valuable properties in all of sports.
Would Team Glazer be so enamored with the buzz and the splash a Brady signing would make across multiple platforms, including various demographics and the entertainment industry, that they would be willing to part with a piece of the team?
March 4th, 2020 at 12:06 am
Carr, Dalton, or Bridgewater
No one knows how a 43 year old QB will fair learning a new system..
March 4th, 2020 at 12:11 am
Maybe he would like to retire in Florida like alot of other people. He could buy a home here get his ducks in a row while playing a couple seasons in our wonderful tropical climate. We have had other high priced free agents we hoped came here to ball out. Only to discover they got rich and were on vacation, caring more about leisure than playing football. If he comes I hope his heart is still in the game and not on relaxing in the sun.
March 4th, 2020 at 12:13 am
Anyone but Winston!!!
March 4th, 2020 at 12:19 am
First, Brady isn’t coming – just to be clear.
But, even as a big Winston guy, I’d still take Brady since he does give you probably two legit shots at a SB. Plus he will bring in some FA’s, if we want them, on lower than market value. Finally, the big thing, is that you’d have overwhelming excitement for the team – locally and nationally. On a national level people would want to see what he could do with Arians, and with Evans and Godwin and OJ (for the love of God, if they got Brady, then Arians needs to get OJ involved in the passing game), and who knows, maybe Brate too. Heck maybe Humphries get cut and he comes back as well.
Now in 2 years you’d be in a lot of trouble, but really, who cares. Deal with it in 2 years.
BUT, again, regardless of the speculation – it’s not happening. When is the last time the Bucs did anything big? Certainly not since Malcolm died, that’s for sure.
March 4th, 2020 at 12:21 am
Soberinsac made me think of Tom Brady as Miles Finch in Elf.
“I’d like a black S500 to receive me at the airport. I need the interior of that car to be 71 degrees exactly.”
Can’t you just hear it from Tom?
I don’t want JW but Brady wouldn’t come to Tampa to win.
March 4th, 2020 at 12:27 am
All of those Superbowl rings don’t come cheap.
It may be worth it though to send the Human Turnovers Machine, Mr. Pick 6 packing
March 4th, 2020 at 12:29 am
Anywho………
I’ll take Carr please.
March 4th, 2020 at 12:34 am
Carr > Bridgewater
/as in/
Coronavirus > Ebola
March 4th, 2020 at 1:18 am
LOL
The sooner everyone can stop pretending or naively thinking there’s even a remote chance of Brady coming here, the better.
It. Will. Never. Happen.
March 4th, 2020 at 2:01 am
Carr is still a Raider…What’s Mayock want for him??? If it’s for Mike Evans straight up? Maybe. (this is one heck of a WR draft class)…I think Carr stays a LVR in 2020. (unless Gruden falls in love w/ Love & takes him before IND!)
Dalton is on the block in CIN & carries a CAP hit that’s 65% the Franchise Tag/QB1 Market Rate…(1yr @ $17.7M – FA in 2021)…But, Mike Brown is greedy & cheap..He’ll want too drive uo the price in a bidding war between 2-3 teams. (Chicago – NE – IND – TB…Who’s more desperate? Chicago.)
Foles is on the market…but Foles is a bottom 10 NFL starter…Might as well go go w/ Gabbert – BU by Josh McCown. (I just puked in my mouth, a bit. Sorry.)
Bridgewater is a natural feel good fit & more than likely the Bucs best bet as Door #2 option…But questions & uncertainty of his ability to “stay in the pocket & take the pounding” that is required to make BA’s offense work.
So, the 2 big questions for me are… Is he a $25M/yr QB in BA’s system??? (No)… Is he a better fit in yr1 of system than JW3 in yr2 of system??? I’m not so sure. If it’s at similar coin…I go JW3. If it’s a $3-5M discount,…$22 vs $27M… I 100% on board w/ the #TeddyBayBuccanners starting fresh at QB1 in 2020. (But would still draft a QB before day3!)
March 4th, 2020 at 2:24 am
I find it hilarious that so much time has been spent with discussion about the QB position when were totally fine at that position.
The Bucs have other holes to fill like improving the defense that has been dreadful for 6 years……… Oops sorry I’m not allowed to say that on here without mentioning a 5 game stretch in 2016 and a decent 2d half against “dynamic” offenses like the Lions and Jaguars.
March 4th, 2020 at 2:35 am
Mr. 5,000 For President!!!
March 4th, 2020 at 2:41 am
“Joe doesn’t even know if it allowed under league rules to give a player a piece of a team.”
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I don’t remember who, but the league has shot this down since it was first tried. The league and team owners put prospective team owners through a trying vetting process, and they are not keen on a player contract that would effectively bypass this process. If I recall correctly.
March 4th, 2020 at 2:51 am
I can’t find a link right now, but I’m pretty certain that has come up before. Good night.
March 4th, 2020 at 4:31 am
Pass on Brady. I believe Dunn owns a piece of the Falcons.
March 4th, 2020 at 4:50 am
Where is the “trade Mike Evans” talk coming from? The Bucs need MORE players like Mike Evans, not less.
March 4th, 2020 at 4:53 am
Some of the fans want Derek Carr because he’s not Jameis. After one year of Derek Carr in a new offense, they’ll want someone who isn’t Derek Carr. We’ll be right back at step one.
March 4th, 2020 at 5:08 am
Another waste of reading time because Brady’s not coming to the Bucs nor was he ever coming to the Bucs. BUT … thankfully the comments are almost always interesting.
Catcard202 … highly unlikely IMO that the Raiders would trade QB Carr for WR ME13. Money’s almost identical right now, but Carr would very well bring more if Chucky traded him to some other teams. Now trading for Godwin (plus another player or 2) … THAT would be very much like Chucky.
Was thinking yesterday that all of this ‘stuff’ by BA, like ‘We’re keeping our options open’ and ‘We can win with any QB’ may be nothing more than BA’s reaction to Jameis’ closing gambit (aka ‘I be ballin’). BA was TOTALLY supportive of Jameis all throughout the season even with all of his INTs prior to those last 2 games (aka ‘Just keep firing’).
Things clearly changed after those 2 games. Jameis’ remarks certainly weren’t very ‘humble’ but much more concerning to BA I’d bet was Jameis’ demand for $30 mil plus. Big mistake I’ve got a hunch on the part of both Jameis and his agent. And yet, in the end the Bucs & Jameis will probably end up together for 2020 at least. Like yesterday’s article essentially said … ‘A shotgun wedding’. Although I wouldn’t put any money on it lasting, it surely will be ‘entertaining’ while it does.
March 4th, 2020 at 5:51 am
Agreed, Brady’s not signing with the Bucs. Going to Las Vegas, IMHO.
March 4th, 2020 at 6:09 am
Anyone but Winston
March 4th, 2020 at 6:42 am
If Brady leaves NE, it is to have a chance at winning another SB and money.
Why would Brady come here?
This team is not ready to compete for a Super Bowl. Not with Suh, Shaq, JPP and Nassib re-signed. Not even with a Free Agent Pro Bowl LT signing, and not with the drafting of a real RB.
Money? Come on. Some other team would outbid the Bucs.
Tampa is not a marquee city.
March 4th, 2020 at 6:49 am
Ultimate guesswork great job getting paid to sound like a fan of football
March 4th, 2020 at 6:52 am
Bringing Jameis back for year 2 of the No risk it no biscuit offense is the best option. Anything else is a gamble and we will be having these same conversations next year.
No QB, not even Brady will step in and have not only the knowledge of the offense but chemistry with the team. Some of yall think this is Madden and you can just move some names around and be great. Sorry to break it to yall, but Brady looked old on the field last year and so did rivers. Who cares how many interceptions they threw or didn’t throw. They didn’t throw 5000 yards or 30 TDs and damn sure didn’t make plays outside the pocket like Jameis. Better check ya sheet like my boy said. Some of yall blind and only follow what the media say. Arians told yall we can WIN with Jameis so believe that like you believe everything else he said.
Stay on course with build the defense because that is the foundation of who the BUCS are and what it will take to return to glory. If defense can play the first half of the season like the last half of last season, we will win. Jameis will do his part. He makes the game exciting to watch and has entertained us all with his heroics. He just needs a consistent run game to slow down the game and not have to shoot out every game because we get scored on every drive. Go BUCS
March 4th, 2020 at 7:22 am
Yeah give Brady 0.5% equity stake and he will play for peanuts and retire a buc.
March 4th, 2020 at 7:49 am
I have HUGE respect for Brady and his history…but do NOT want him next year …
March 4th, 2020 at 8:11 am
Jameis #1 Fan, It seems that a QB having good stats, but 5 years of losing games is acceptable to you. Wouldn’t you rather wins games? While I have nothing against Winston as a person, His biggest stat is that he is a loser.
March 4th, 2020 at 8:15 am
I think Joe needs psychiatric help. He honestly believes that a one time Pro Bowl alternate from 5 years ago, a turnover machine and pick 6 title holder, is somehow the better choice over a Hall of Famer that would instantly change the culture in Tampa. Completely asinine and devoid of all logic. He must have eaten paint chips as a kid.
#NoPlayoffs
March 4th, 2020 at 8:22 am
I don’t want to see Brady. I don’t want to see NY and Boston media and fans debate the Bucs each week. The entire idea is ridiculous. Find a dull QB that can make a few important throws in a game, and build a D and a run game. If you don’t have at least 4 wins in the first 6 weeks, tank and go to Trevor Lawrence.
March 4th, 2020 at 8:26 am
@Formerly Tampa 2
You a suggesting that 5 years of losing is all on Jameis…Having the league worst defense hurts bro. Not having a kicker to help put points on the board hurts bro. Having ur GM pass on Davin Cook and Derwin James when every expert said you should get them hurts bro. Having 3 Head coaches and 4 Offensive Coordinators in 5 years hurts bro. I mean these are Facts…this is not Madden, at some point consistency counts. And we did win games, we won 7 and were just seconds away from winning 2 or 3 more which gets you in the playoffs…Jason Light is only here because the team said they wanted consistency…then Jameis deserves to be here as well.
March 4th, 2020 at 8:52 am
TDTB Says:
“I believe Dunn owns a piece of the Falcons.”
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Yes. Apparently, it was not a part of his player’s contract, though. “The purchase by Dunn is expected to be completed by March 1, 2010.” this was announced in December of 2009.
https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stories/2009/12/14/daily63.html
March 4th, 2020 at 8:56 am
brady aint coming…..
bridgewater is a perfect fit….
GO BUCS!!!!!
March 4th, 2020 at 9:32 am
There are some desperate pleas on this page for winston and I honestly think they will cry when he is gone and even say poor Winston when we reach our first postseason without him. Jameis earned at the very least competition not the right to start without it and damn sure didnt earn 30 million
Turnovers matter more than 30 touchdowns and meaningless 5000 yards with a 7-9 record. He should still be paying keith tandy under the table for that one winning season we had. It was the defense not winston that aided that 9-7 season why else would we resign mike smith?
Jameis #1 Fan Says:
Having 3 Head coaches and 4 Offensive Coordinators in 5 years hurts bro.
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What the hell kind of new math is that. Dirk keeter was his OC and became head coach to keep him in the same offense so nice try but he still threw more picks the second year. Lovie did him a favor and forced the team to run so even Dirk threw the ball alot are you claiming them for thinking he could do it? Lol he’s in his second offense buddy
March 4th, 2020 at 10:15 am
Friendly reminder for the I DON’T CARE WHAT BA/JL/QB COACH/Bucs Media/NFL Media says about the QB situation!!! Regardless who’s at QB this upcoming season if these things don’t get straight out losing will continue:
1. One of the worse kicking game since 2009….11 Kickers since 2009. 2019 marked the 8 consecutive year with a different kicker opening day. Oh there’s more since 2015….54 MISSED KICKS TOTAL (XPs/FGs) if I’m not mistaking one or if not the WORSE IN THE NFL PEOPLE during that stretch!!!
2. Donovan Smith is a avg to below average LT. The RG situation has been unfortunately sad a freaking turnstile. RT situation should’ve been taken care of yet the Bucs over looked that part of the team. Allowed sacks Bucs is always above 15th ranked. Many Bucs QBs have taken a beating year after year
3. Ohhhh the RUNNING GAME after Martin great season in 2015 with 1402 yards. Since 2016 season the RUNNING GAME has been one of if not the WORSE IN THE NFL! Last season the had their Bucs first 100 rusher (RoJo) since Nov 2018. The RUNNING GAME is very poor in short yardage and doesn’t have explosive run over 20+. RoJo not good on 3rd downs, Barber was never that good regardless of what the coaches said. Ogunbowale Rodgers was trash during his time with the Bucs. Sims stayed hurt, Martin on PEDs.
4. First round pick TE OJ Howard (soft and scary) drafted him when you paid TE Brate a big contract
5. Yep that PASS DEFENSE has been one of if not the WORSE IN THE NFL since hmmmmm god knows when. Year after year opponents QBs have career games against that weak secondary…third down and long conversions, completion percentage be like 68%+, yards per catch, opponents red zone conversions, 300+ yard games, backup QB shredding the secondary
6. Can forget the SCORING DEFENSE been pretty bad since….yep you guess it god knows when. The Bucs DEFENSE always been at the bottom in giving up total points against and points per game by opponents.
SUMMARY: Don’t let the media blind you on focusing on one player!!! I’ve pointed out obvious things! If you don’t believe me go look at the stats and games. This Bucs TEAM has MANY ISSUES as you can see! Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong about these issues!!!
March 4th, 2020 at 1:39 pm
Please stop with the BS .
Brady is not coming here, no way.
March 4th, 2020 at 2:20 pm
Call Carr the coronavirus was not an endorsement, it’s just better than getting ebola.
In anycase Bridgewater is afraid to throw it downfield – that is what the stats show with his ridiculously low intended air yard stats. Who is 2nd worse in that category? Derek Carr. Another guy who is afraid to throw the ball, will dump it off on 3rd and 13 for 6 yards, then morons will say, hey look at his great completion percentage. Carr also is literally the guy who threw it out of bounds to end the Jets game, on 4th and goal, last play of the game, he throws it out of bounds to avoid forcing the ball (again, on 4th down, last pay of the game) because it might hurt his stats. That’s what the Winston haters want, a guy who knows INTs is how you lose games, so just throw it out of bounds to end a game so as to not hurt the turnover column.
March 4th, 2020 at 6:04 pm
I could see Brady coming to the clown show known as Tampa Bay.
It would be perfect to market his name, brand, and self on a Buccaneers jersey. Glazers are probably just creaming their dress suits knowing they could make more money off of us simpletons.
March 4th, 2020 at 10:06 pm
If we got Belicheat along with Brady I’d be okay with it otherwise no thanks. I rather go with the 26 year old who already knows the system. Brady is on the steep decline he maybe has 1-2 more years at a diminished level.
March 4th, 2020 at 10:55 pm
Maybe some “fans” on this site are NOT aware of the Doug Williams Curse!
We have been cursed since we kicked Williams to the curb over money.