Negative Runs & Doug Martin Territory
November 12th, 2019
How bout the Bucs’ running game!
Two touchdowns against the Cardinals, featuring good vision by Ronald Jones and a sweet jump cut by Peyton Barber!
Joe’s got a little sarcasm in his fingers today. The Bucs’ running game is very inconsistent and overall it’s not very good.
Lots of fans, and even some folks at JoeBucsFan.com world headquarters, are crowing about Ronald Jones as the new starter. Bucco Bruce Arians has talked about RoJo earning the job. But meanwhile, he’s averaging 3.4 yards per carry through his last six games (72 carries for 246 yards). Those are bad numbers.
That total sounds familiar: 3.4 yards per carry is what Barber is averaging this season.
Yesterday, Bruce Arians was lamenting too many negative runs against the Cardinals in his day-after news conference. The Bucs are among the league leaders in that area.
Jones’ 4.0 yards per carry for the season is decent, and better than Sony Michel, Devonta Freeman, David Montgomery, Joe Mixon, David Montgomery, James Conner, David Johnson and Austin Ekeler, But Joe is a bit concerned about Jones’ recent decline. Hopefully, he can turn that around.
In back-to-back seasons, Doug Martin averaged 2.9 yards per carry as the Bucs’ full-time back. Joe gets very nervous anytime Bucs running backs get within half a yard of that horrible memory.
November 12th, 2019 at 10:16 am
The BIG Surprise with Jones, is the screen pass. Jones will continue to get better, as he continues to add confidence.
November 12th, 2019 at 10:17 am
BUCS CUT VHIII
November 12th, 2019 at 10:20 am
Hargreaves got third prize.
November 12th, 2019 at 10:20 am
WOW Bucs cut VH3 and nothing from JOE! C’mon MAN!!!!!!!!!!! lol
November 12th, 2019 at 10:23 am
Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa — I do agree with the screen passes which is generally considered an extension of the run game. One of the bigger knocks on Jones is that he cannot or did not catch a lot of balls in college. It has been a pleasant surprise.
November 12th, 2019 at 10:27 am
Big statement releasing the #11 pick in the draft just a few years ago.
November 12th, 2019 at 10:27 am
see ya VHG…..
GO BUCS!!!!!
November 12th, 2019 at 10:29 am
Its very obvious Rojo is the superior back so hopefully he gets bulk of the carries going forward. Also, a celebration should be in order due to the recent release of Hargreaves!!
November 12th, 2019 at 10:30 am
813bucboi Says:
November 12th, 2019 at 10:27 am
see ya VHG…..
Please accept my sincere condolences. May the convenience store gods be good to the little fella
November 12th, 2019 at 10:32 am
Another one Lichts the dust…and another one gone and another one gone another one Lichts the dust!
November 12th, 2019 at 10:34 am
Hargraves is gone?
November 12th, 2019 at 10:37 am
Hargreaves was waived! Accountability!!!!!!!!!
November 12th, 2019 at 10:39 am
BYe BYe VHIII….u can play good or bad, that´s fine….What you can´t do is lack of effort……So I hope you go with Swaggy Baker Brent and Mikko Grimes, and you never come back…..
November 12th, 2019 at 10:42 am
Hopefully the GM who drafted him and the rest of that useless 2016 draft class is fired next. How many lives does he have?
November 12th, 2019 at 10:43 am
Accountability will be served when Licht turns in his keys to OBP.
November 12th, 2019 at 10:44 am
Holy cow what a waste the entire 2016 draft was! How does Licht get a pass on whiffing on an ENTIRE draft? Including historically BAD moves like trading up for a kicker!
November 12th, 2019 at 10:44 am
Accountability??? Is that what Bucco Bruce means when he has a coach for virtually every player on the team? I guess he can just fire them and say”I’m holding them accountable!” Until people realize he’s the problem but by then he has banked fat stacks of cash. Brucie is one smart cookie!
November 12th, 2019 at 10:44 am
Bye Vh3
November 12th, 2019 at 10:45 am
““After thoughtful consideration over the past few weeks, Coach Arians and I came to the conclusion that we needed to make this change,” said Licht. “Decisions such as this are always difficult, but we felt it was in the best interest of our team to part ways with Vernon at this time and allow him to explore other opportunities. We are disappointed that it did not work out here for Vernon and we wish him continued success moving forward.””
November 12th, 2019 at 10:45 am
@joe you are the only one I know that doesn’t see jones improvement and get excited. You watch every single game and you know that our O line isn’t getting the push it needs. Every time jones gets past the 1st level he seems like he is about to break it, just give it some time.
November 12th, 2019 at 10:45 am
Do we receive a compensation draft pick for vh3?
November 12th, 2019 at 10:46 am
A wake up call – loafers will not be tolerated! Worst draft class in history of the NFL!
November 12th, 2019 at 10:49 am
Joe you’re late to the party on this VHIII stuff.
November 12th, 2019 at 10:49 am
If only there was a running back that was on the draft board when we reached for a player we had redundancies at…. maybe that player had experience with JW under center…. man, I could imagine that guy having an MVP season right now.
November 12th, 2019 at 10:49 am
Half the people on JoeBucfans could’ve drafted better than Licht in 2016 Not only are all these bust not on the Bucs anymore but the NFL wants nothing to do them them!
Caleb Bennenoch got cut by both the Panthers and Patriots in the month of OCTOBER alone.
What is going on in the scouting department? Why are not being held accountable? This is so frustrating.
November 12th, 2019 at 10:51 am
somebody better check on 813….
November 12th, 2019 at 10:51 am
Vernon Hargreaves has been cut!!!!!!
November 12th, 2019 at 10:51 am
Oh for those taking victory laps on Ronald Jones for average play, he isn’t all that either.
November 12th, 2019 at 10:51 am
Laremy Tunsil was the pick….licht blew an entire draft when will he be cut and why didnt these morons trade hargreaves at the trade deadline
November 12th, 2019 at 10:54 am
If Hargreaves is not claimed before Patriots turn, watch Beliceck grab him and turn his career into something great! Unbelievable… but that’s how the Pats roll!
November 12th, 2019 at 10:57 am
Dusthty
Who was gonna trade for a slow, short, lazy corner who was afraid to tackle?
November 12th, 2019 at 10:59 am
@Joe
Nfl network is reporting set the bucs are about to waive Vernon Hargreaves. Any word on that?
November 12th, 2019 at 11:00 am
They need to feed Rojo 18-25 times per game and you’ll see impressive numbers. As of today they are still splitting reps 50/50 around 11 reps per game each. Bell cows needs 20 carries per game. FIX IT!!!
November 12th, 2019 at 11:00 am
If we get a good OT in the seconds or third round, could make a huge difference. His good patience getting through holes and vision would continue to get better with time. RoJo has hands now and the Bucs finally running a screen. One of his best qualities at USC.
November 12th, 2019 at 11:02 am
Barber is not good and Jones, while no longer a bust isn’t someone that scares opposing defenses. We need a legit number one running back to have some balance, especially if we are keeping Winston (please no) or draft someone to replace him. Of course, all of this is irrelevant if Licht is still calling the shots after this season. Sad times.
November 12th, 2019 at 11:03 am
No one will claim VHIII off waivers. His contract is too much.
After he clears waivers, a team might pursue him. Maybe. Stupid is as stupid does.
November 12th, 2019 at 11:03 am
lol, stillllllllll talking about Doug Martin, and pretending a sub-par o-line doesn’t have a massively negative effect on the run game.
lol
November 12th, 2019 at 11:05 am
Rojo may not bee an elite RB yet, but he could become one. Last year, everyone gave up on him. I would think you are would have learned better by now.
November 12th, 2019 at 11:05 am
We’re VHFREEEEEEEEE👍😃👍
November 12th, 2019 at 11:09 am
Jones needs to break a long run…..that will improve his numbers greatly….
And, we are too predictable in the run game…….need to play-action on 1st downs……run draws on 2nd down…..
November 12th, 2019 at 11:09 am
Oh no Joe! Is he a bust again? How bout stopping the nonsense of running Barber so much. Surprised Barber is averaging that every first down play he is in there the other team knows whats coming.
November 12th, 2019 at 11:09 am
Glad VH3 is gone. Wrong kind of attitude in both practice and the locker room, yet he never had the skills in the NFL on the field to justify his lack of effort in practice. And JPP clearly had enough of his antics and fetishes for white women over football.
Thankfully he won’t be around to infect these young corners with contagious negativity and attitude.
November 12th, 2019 at 11:10 am
Nice job in 2016 LICHT!!!!!!!! You BUSTER!!!!!!!!! Worst DRAFT ever!!!!!!
November 12th, 2019 at 11:41 am
The o-line play is sadly inconsistent when it comes to run blocking.
Fix the O- line fix the running game.
Dot is the weak link as far as the running g game is concerned and I’m not sure D Smith is much better in that area.
I’m not down on Dot ,he’s just getting up in years on bad pins.
He’s a true buc and works hard every game but careers come to an end.
November 12th, 2019 at 11:42 am
jmark
no need…lol…
unlike most, i root for every buc thats on the roster…..VHG failed…simple as that….time to move on….
folks have to find a new scapegoat….lol…
GO BUCS!!!!!
November 12th, 2019 at 12:10 pm
Why would you expect a good running game when the opposing D’s want JW (AKA the turnover machine) to throw. The Joe’s and the crazy Florida state fans just do not get it. Watching the game Sunday, the opposing QB had the ball out of his hand on an average of 2 seconds. For JW it was the high 4’s. He does not see the field which causes him to stare down his receivers. He does not lead his receivers in the underneath routes which accounts for low yards after catch. If it were not for the great routes and hands by the best receiving corps in football, JW would have the worst offense in football. If they re-sign JW it is because the Glazers need an excuse to move the team to London.
November 12th, 2019 at 5:03 pm
Time to throw.. Winston 2.46
Murray 3.09
Who’s stats.. Nextgen. Lets be accurate, Its too easy.
November 12th, 2019 at 8:35 pm
Negative runs by a RB are usually the result of poor offensive line play plus great defensive play. If a RB is tackled just as he is getting the hand-off then blame the O-line. Our line doesn’t run block very well so they make up for it my not pass blocking.
November 13th, 2019 at 3:33 pm
you are not factoring in the fact he had 70 something receiving yards!! you always skew the numbers Joe to fit what you blabbed about previously!! you wanted Rojo gone and you can not stand that you were wrong and now are trying find any number you can to be somewhat right!! give the SECOND YEAR RUNNING BACK (really his first considering his low number of carries last year) a little time to perfect his craft!! he is the best running back we have had in a long time …. and if you actually did any research and knew what you were talking about you would know he had the same type of college output … good but not great his first 2 years and then busted out and was one of the best!!!
November 14th, 2019 at 10:19 am
Take that Joe!!! …Still the best out there, but gotta call you on things now and then…