2019 Bucs MVP? Jameis
June 7th, 2019
So who will lead the Bucs out of the darkness of so much losing toward brighter pastures and — gasp! — a wild card berth?
For one NFL.com typist, it is a no-brainer.
Dan Hanzus of NFL.com has decided to try to predict the Most Valuable Player for each NFC team this fall. He thinks if the Bucs are going to have any type of respectable season, the team will be led by America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston.
Coming off a disappointing season both on and off the field in 2018, the Bucs broke the In Case Of Emergency, Hire Bruce Arians glass as a last-ditch effort to unlock the promise of their former first overall pick. Last time we saw Arians inherit a veteran passer, he revitalized the career of Carson Palmer in Arizona. We all know Arians prefers an offense with big-strike capability, a philosophy that could work as a double-edged sword with a big-armed, turnover-prone passer like Winston. The fact that Arians was willing to come out of retirement to help solve Winston tells you something. Let’s see if Mr. Kangol can spin his magic again.
Jameis very well could have a rebound year. First, he no longer has the wet dream of the joystick jockeys, malcontent wide receiver DeSean Jackson, trying to Pearl Harbor his career at every turn.
That alone should be worth five extra touchdowns thrown.
And of course, with Bucco Bruce Arians and Tom Moore putting Jameis back together, this seems like a too-easy pick for MVP.
June 7th, 2019 at 12:08 am
I know Joe has heard some things about what Djax did to jameis while he was here I get more and more curious the more I hear about it. Like just how bad can one receiver try and mutiny.
June 7th, 2019 at 2:34 am
joe’s still locked on one game from JW’s days ta FSU (at Pittsburgh?) and keeps bringing it up whenever JW’s accuracy is in question. When you got to do that for a qb who started 4 seasons in the nfl, it tells you almost everything you need to know. unfortunately.
June 7th, 2019 at 2:36 am
Well joe sees no wrong in JW , you think if JW could hit DJ when he has WR beat by 5 steps DJ would try to bad mouth JW. FUNNY FITZ COULD HIT HIM and please don’t say he hit 13 down field. He does that once a year and the other times 13 is making incredible catches on bad thrown balls. JW hit Goodwin one time last game of season on 40 plus and that’s only play joe remembers.
Every other Qb DJ. Played for hit him on the run. I like JW but let’s not make him better than the average QB till he shows he deserves more
June 7th, 2019 at 2:51 am
Aww, pre season, and the kool aid starts its flow right on time…..again.
June 7th, 2019 at 3:16 am
Its sad that Zach the Intern writes with more substance, style and content than ‘sophomoric prose Joe’. This is article is one step above bathroom wall scribbling. Which I am guessing was induced by a few beers and thought adding the metaphors were funny. They are not… They reflect poorly…
As for the topic buried in this awful read, I sure hope so. If JW plays well, we are going to have alot of wins/chances.
In BA I Trust!
June 7th, 2019 at 3:54 am
Moderation – meet Kettle… Kettle – meet Moderation.
Ok, I was a little rough there. Its only because I love what you do for us and I want you to be the best.
June 7th, 2019 at 4:06 am
The “Best” QB in Buccaneers History (and who had a great game as a freshman at FSU vs Pitt) is not even on track to make the Ring of Honor at Ray Jay.
Nor on track to make a second contract.
“Turnover-prone passer”
June 7th, 2019 at 4:50 am
If DJax tried to Pearl Harbor Jameis on every turn, then that’s on Koetter and Licht for allowing it to happen.
June 7th, 2019 at 4:51 am
Seems like I’ve seen some media pundits write that Arizona’s turnaround when BA took the reins back in 2013 was actually led by BOTH BA’s OFFENSE & Todd Bowles’ DEFENSE. The Cards’ defense improved from #17 in POINTS ALLOWED in 2011 & 2012 up to #7 in 2013 and further to #5 in 2014. The Cards’ offense was meh in 2011 at #24 in POINTS SCORED, but it fell to #31 in 2012 (which got Ken Whisenhunt canned?), but then it improved to #16 in 2013 under BA before falling back somewhat to #24 in 2014.
The Cards’ 2013 & 2014 DEFENSE under Bowles was not only solid across the board (especially in rushing defense it turned out) but it ALSO created a bunch of turnovers that BA’s offense capitalized on nicely. Aah yes, the old COMPLIMENTARY FOOTBALL. Bucs don’t need Jameis to be the savior this year; we simply need him to be more CONSISTENT & not turn the ball over as often as he has in the past. ‘Steady as she goes’ Jameis, and this ship will play better COMPLIMENTARY FOOTBALL than we’ve probably ever seen here in Tampa.
June 7th, 2019 at 5:40 am
Jameis definitely has the potential to be elite…
That said, almost every great QB that’s played this game has had a really great coach and in some cases a HOF coach…
Imho, not saying Bruce Arians is one of greats or a HOF caliber coach yet at this point but he is pretty good and by far the best coach Jameis has had so far in his career; and they believe in each other…Even without BA Jameis has found a way to get better every year so now that he has a competent coaching staff behind him I expect Jameis to silence his critics this year…
June 7th, 2019 at 5:58 am
Jameis will get his chance to play in a different offense. If, as has been
reported a lot of routes are run to the middle of the field, this will only help
Jameis. A renewed focus on mechanics and footwork that the coaching staff seems to making is a key to more consistent play.
No question DJAX was not a good teammate , but Jameis suspension and
benching, in no way can be blamed on DJAX.
June 7th, 2019 at 5:59 am
The little jab at DJax could’ve been left out and this would have been a great conversation starter. I’m calling BS on that statement!
No Buc player will have a greater magnifying glass on them than Jameis. The funny thing about that is for us to win, we have to run the football well and play defense. It will actually mean less of Jameis not more. I personally don’t care if we are top 10 in any category offensively just as long as we are winning games.
This will be a big year for Jameis. I hope he does well.
June 7th, 2019 at 6:39 am
“The downfall and cause of 2019 4-12 season will be the continuous failure of the offensive line
September the BA/Bowles honeymoon will be over
Kobe believes JW3 wont be healthy for all the 16 games
The decision to keep JW3 for 2020 will be Bucs draft position and the success of Tua, Herbert, and Fromm 2019 season
Kobe believes Bucs will be in position for at least the 2nd best college QB and JW3 will be gone….2nd round trade”
Kobe Faker
June 7th, 2019 at 6:55 am
See this is what people just don’t get. You put a people pleaser and a selfish person together it is a horrible combination. DJax was the worst possible thing that could have happened to Jameis. Now it is on Jameis as well to grow up be a man and say screw you I’m playing the game the right way and not force you the ball but instead he tried to make the baby happy and at times played poorly because of it. On the other hand the head coach could have helped and actually controlled the team but instead he just added fuel to the fire by supporting the one that wouldnt work hard and be even a decent teammate. There is a reason keep letting this guy go folks it’s not rocket science. He is a bad teammate and selfish and that matters a lot in football, like A LOT!
June 7th, 2019 at 7:00 am
Bucsfanman you clearly have never played QB with a selfish player in a competitive environment if you don’t understand what this causes.
June 7th, 2019 at 7:08 am
Not with this o line and running game.
June 7th, 2019 at 7:14 am
Isn’t it interesting that most analysts for networks are giving a not so nice moniker by joe here. Especially BSPN
However, when someone talks nice about Jameis , American flag to show America’s QB , then they are giving the benefit of the doubt/ they appear credible ?
June 7th, 2019 at 7:14 am
Agree with Kobe Faker, don’t forget when the college season you may have more qb’s moving up. Eason of washington, Costello stanford second only to Andrew Luck in stats. This could be a great year for qb’s in the draft. If Jameis doesn’t play very well it’s time for a change. I can’t see paying a mediocre qb 25 to 30 mil a year.
June 7th, 2019 at 7:16 am
He needs to be MVP for Bucs to turn this around. I think Jameis has his best year. Let’s wait and see how good that will be.
The QB is most important player on a football team.
The QBs should get the nod for every team mvp . Except maybe a team with Aaron Donald on it.
June 7th, 2019 at 7:25 am
Carson Wentz just got 4 year extension for 32 mil a year ( I thought 100 mil guaranteed ) and I don’t think he has been healthy one season to date. Actually has missed many games. And has a bad back.
It just goes to show that when spending that kinda money on a player. The most important player. Who should be the mvp that makes or breaks a team’s success …you better get it right.
June 7th, 2019 at 7:34 am
Winston’s career is on the line because of his own stupdity and immaturity, a man who is lucky Kate didn’t call the cops right then and there, a guy whom people make excuse after excuse for (now it appears to be largely the fault of DJax according to some)…and the article shows a waving American flag? Man, that’s too bad. I guess you could say this is an example of any American’s dream and how the worst among us throw opportunity away. On a lighter note, I could maybe see why a guy like Arians would come out of retirement–for a good challenge. But naw…it’s the money. If he succeeds in righting the Bucs, he’s an even richer hero….if he fails, people will just say the Bucs are so bad nothing is working. Arians won’t get the blame.
June 7th, 2019 at 7:40 am
Yes, DJax clearly tried to Pearl Harbor Winston. Uh huh. If he was a good player, he’d run back and throw the ball for him…since God knows Winston can’t hit the long ball.
Article says:
“He thinks if the Bucs are going to have any type of respectable season, the team will be led by America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston.” So full of inaccuracies and Captain Obvious statements. Of course who ever is QB for the Bucs will have to lead the team. Standard basic principle. And Jameis has shown he can’t show up for a game because of his immaturity and lack of leadership. I know Joe insists on using the handle for Winston. But more accurate is FSU’s former darling, poster child for how to self-torpedo a career, and stand by pick for ProBowl who only got to go because the real QB deserving was in post season games.
June 7th, 2019 at 7:46 am
Shaking my head at this crazy creepy obsession on this site. and we know which writer it is. Cause we heard about the legendary story of being at that Pitt game.
To have the American flag up as a symbol for Jameis Winston
Shame on you
Especially with DDay 75 year yesterday
June 7th, 2019 at 7:49 am
Rebuild Winston? Rebound season? Heck, from reading JBF for 3 years, Winston has been great just about every year!!! Granted, Uber-crotch-grabbing got him grounded, but……. This is an admission that despite all the grandiose numbers, even JBF is admitting he sucks.
June 7th, 2019 at 8:03 am
I hope that Jameis EARNS a new contract averaging $36 million a year.
June 7th, 2019 at 8:24 am
MVP….The Most Vainglorious Player…..Jamyth
June 7th, 2019 at 8:26 am
Ndog- I’ve played many sports with many selfish people. The suggestion though that DJax alone is responsible for Jameis play last year is ludicrous. There were many opportunities that were missed where DJax was running free and clear. That’s a fact.
DJax did not “Pearl Harbor” Jameis’ career. That statement is absurd.
No, he’s not a good teammate but come on.
June 7th, 2019 at 8:35 am
Regardless of how well Jameis plays this year, the next draft almost demands a first round QB. There are too many good ones not to pull the trigger. Depending upon record, Hebert, Fromm, Eason and Costello will be available (my guess is Tua will be taken before Bucs pick). That’s too good of a crop to take a pass. If Jameis excels, great. Draft pick rides pine for a year or two on a cap friendly contract. If Jameis stumbles, Bucs can implement plan B.
June 7th, 2019 at 8:37 am
I love how people think that Arians can just come in here and flip a magic switch and make Winston a true NFL QB.
If Winston doesn’t have that kind of a season he will be out of here.
June 7th, 2019 at 9:21 am
we know what we have on offense….imo, if we make the playoffs, it’ll be because of our defense….
thats why i would say bowles gets my vote for MVP…
GO BUCS!!!!
June 7th, 2019 at 9:22 am
By far Winston was the worst qb in bucs own division and considered bottom 3rd by the nfl . Joe keeps hope alive
June 7th, 2019 at 9:34 am
I would disagree with Joe on this one when he says that alone could account for 5 more TD’s. It misses a bigger point.
What we hope from Jameis and the quarterbacks is 10 less turnovers. Not 5 more TD’s.
I would suggest that most would clearly be happier that instead of 41 passing TD’s, we can stay at 36 passing TD’s for the season and then have only 16 interceptions instead of 26 for the season. For me, I feel more comfortable with our MVP having 36/16 TD/INT than a 41/26 TD/INT. Of course I will take a 41/16 ratio as well but really that is likely a pipe dream.
Pearl Harbor references seem a little harsh to me but after all this is a blog so anything goes.
June 7th, 2019 at 10:01 am
OK we all know what a Fluffer Joe is for Winston but the waving flag just absolutely killed me this morning! Absolutely hilarious!
June 7th, 2019 at 10:11 am
At least the quartback market is starting to get cheaper. When we re-sign Winston (we will), it might not cost more than $25m per year.
Frankly, I don’t think any player should get more than $20m, but I’m a cheapskate.
June 7th, 2019 at 10:22 am
Tampabuscsbro Says
“I know Joe has heard some things about what Djax did to jameis while he was here I get more and more curious the more I hear about it. Like just how bad can one receiver try and mutiny.”
Here’re by theories on it:
• He decided on the outset that he did not like Winston. The symptoms of this started around the time the Uber accusation came to light.
• From that point on, he went out of his way to avoid developing chemistry with Winston on the field. He intentionally did things to throw off Winston’s timing on passes to him…like slowing up on running after the ball was thrown, avoiding making catches on passes he had to stretch out for, and many other things. (This was clearly demonstrated on the field)
• He decided early on that for Winston, he would not catch a pass if it meant getting hit. This was not his policy with Fitz. He went all out for Fitz, showing he had the ability, but he refused to use it for Winston. (This was clearly demonstrated on the field)
• He used social media to voice his displeasures, never coming out and directly speaking against Winston, but making it clear he was not happy with him…as opposed to how he spoke of Fitz.
• I believe he tried to sew seeds of discontent within the locker room, speaking against Winston in private with the other players…not overtly. More likely when he hung with them or talked on the phone with them.
• I believe he leaked things to members of the media as well…in ‘confidence’, so that it did not blow back on him. This would explain why the media embraced him when he left.
June 7th, 2019 at 10:23 am
I’m pretty sure Winston isn’t coming back next year. I think the only reason he is back this year is 1. They can’t afford anyone else, and 2. They have invested so much that for those still holding out any hope at all that he can be of any value to this team, organization, and community, they want to make it clear they did all they could. To suggest Winston could get even $20M a year is the funniest thing I’ve heard this week.
June 7th, 2019 at 10:26 am
How may QBs have been suspended in history of the NFL for the type of things Winston did? Two, right? I think one guy decades ago was betting on the team, and then there is Big Ben. How many guys have had Winston’s numbers, and will in the future. Many many many. How many have had Winston’s disciplinary problems off the field and accuracy/turnover problems on the field and stayed around? None.
June 7th, 2019 at 10:28 am
As far as Fitz hitting DJax and Jameis not, those first two games our OL protected him well and he had a very clean pocket. And one of those strikes was a shocking call on the first play of the game. Let’s not act like Fitz hit Djax all over the field like Tom Brady. Haters unite because you’re clueless. Jameis is not our problem. The lack of running game and the defense were our problems. Give Jameis a running game and NOT always feeling like he has to overcome our sieve of a defense and you’ll see what’s up!!! You don’t throw for the kind of yardage and TDs he has if you’re SO inaccurate.
June 7th, 2019 at 10:29 am
I am a Winston fan and the only opinion that matters to me is BA’s coaching staff’s evaluation. No matter the talent or no talent on a team coaching does factor into how much of a cohesive team you get when the games are for real. Winston compared to Mahomes is no comparison QB’s like Mahomes only come around every decade or so. If anyone believes we could replace Winston next year with a better QB the stats so no. 1st round QB success rate is 53% and that is only for a viable QB not a game changer.
June 7th, 2019 at 11:01 am
@D.R.
Spot on analysis! JW historically was viewed as the savior of every team he’s represented. He’s still mastering the feeling of being JAG. He’s finding that delicate balance between confidence and arrogance.
I think last year has mellowed JW and made him mature. The suspension…Fitzmagic miracle…first ever benching of his career…it was a truly humbling season.
BA comes in and rebalances and tips the scale back after the bruising 2018 and JW responds with a career year!
June 7th, 2019 at 11:18 am
Bonzai- Just so I’m clear on this. You are saying that right from jump, DJax decided that he was not going to play for Jameis by purposely throwing off timing so that he could not score TDs and the Bucs would lose so that he could go on to play for less money?!!
You know what, I’m not a fan of DJax either but you are off your rocker!
June 7th, 2019 at 12:04 pm
Ndog for the win! 👍
June 7th, 2019 at 12:44 pm
Until Jameis Winston proves it it is nothing but speculation, we have been waiting for it since he was drafted. Year 5 better be one for the history books, with all the fluff and stuff this website and Coach Arians is saying means NOTHING, until you actually do it. The rest of it is just that talk. And “Talk don’t cook rice, action cooks rice”.
Show us dont tell us what he will do. SHOW US!
Go! BUCS!
June 7th, 2019 at 12:51 pm
I think Winston has a HUGE season!
June 7th, 2019 at 1:33 pm
Can’t go for the win when armed with nothing. Emotion to defend your favorite man is human, but it doesn’t get you anywhere in the real world. Only facts…and consequences for behavior. And the guilty is not who decides when enough is enough.
June 7th, 2019 at 8:38 pm
I love Jameis and I think he will have a good season with the new coaches and hopefully a new RG. That being said, this HAS to be his best year. For what its worth, Jameis’ change in behavior (less mania on the field during the pregame, his subdued manner during press conferences) it kind of looks like he’s on ADHD meds now.
June 7th, 2019 at 10:29 pm
I believe we end this season as inconclusive on Jameis as we have every other season. He will look good, bad, and every thing in between. His improvement will have to be almost miraculous for him to earn a $100 million contract
June 9th, 2019 at 1:44 pm
James MVP if mvp stands for most valuable publix(crab stealer).
June 9th, 2019 at 1:44 pm
Jamies not james.