Bucs Shopping GMC “Hard”
April 3rd, 2019
Trade bait?
More and more it appears Bucs stud defensive tackle Gerald McCoy has played his last snap for the Bucs.
He was a no-show at voluntary Bucs conditioning sessions this week as the team gathered for the first time on Monday under the Bucco Bruce Arians regime.
For a guy who is all about team, it seemed a tad odd that GMC was not there. We know why now.
This offseason, both Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht and Arians have refused publicly to say GMC will be on their roster this fall. It is obvious the Bucs are trying to get GMC to renegotiate his $13 million a year salary.
Apparently, they are hitting a wall.
Per former NFL suit Michael Lombardi, who still has his tentacles within NFL circles, he hears the Bucs are trying to trade GMC “hard.” But no team wants anything to do with his salary.
McCoy has not played to the level of his salary the last few years which makes teams reluctant. Hard to trade 13 million dollar contract if the player is not playing at a Pro Bowl level.
— Michael Lombardi (@mlombardiNFL) April 3, 2019
Why is Joe fairly certain we have seen the last of GMC? Well, is he a fit for defensive coordinator Todd Bowles and his style? One would hope a guy making $13 million either would be a perfect fit or that Bowles would build a defense around him.
It is starting to smell as if the Bucs are not willing to build a defense around GMC. And that may spell the end of GMC’s days in Tampa Bay.
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:04 am
Bye GMC thanks for the wretched lifeless defense with zero leadership and accountability
Good luck finding a winner willing to pay you half of what Licht would’ve
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:07 am
Suh got paid more than McCoy after a 4 sack season ,
Joe : you think Suh performance actually hurts McCoy grade value , I think McCoy is better all around player than suh
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:10 am
Buc fans appreciate you for being so good in the community and the excellent player on the team. Maybe next time you can finally play for a winner!!
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:10 am
Should cut him to 8million a year (if not release him )and Cut Gholson immediately he has been being paid to do nothing for a few years now. That will give you about 9mill in cap space
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:13 am
Suh is still a free agent…
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:14 am
Thanks for being a great player and hope you land with a winner!!
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:14 am
In a trade , can you offer to pay a portion of salary ?
For example – Here is GMC for a 4th round pick and we will pay 5 mil of salary and new team pays 8?
I know a team is just waiting for him to be released so new team can pay around 8 mil. Rams or patriots ? Suh replacement for a lot less
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:16 am
Who cares about his play?
Surely some team will pay him $13 million for being a “good guy” and his “work in the community.”
Oh wait, that’s only the loser Bucs.
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:17 am
With this news Ed Oliver is the pick. Disruptive Dt with Aaron Donald/John Randle potential. I’m happy.
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:17 am
About 4 years too late Licht.
These reports are embarrassing for Jason Licht as he actually thinks that another NFL GM is willing to pick up that contract…..the only GM dumb enough to do that is Jason Licht who has done that the past 5 years.
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:18 am
Not sure. Apparently GMC has really slipped if the Bucs cannot find a suitor.
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:21 am
Tbbucs3 hit the nail on the head!!!!!!!! Why does the gm licht weight have the answers years to late????????? There was even a pretty good offer last year for Gmc!!!!!!!! But they decided to build around and dictate the scheme around gmc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2019 season will reveal answers to the sheep, that the “real” fans already know!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@joe – Free The Realist!!!!!!!! DO not moderate the “TRUTH”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:23 am
@Joe
What Hurts gmc value is a huge, deep draft of D-line talent!!!!!!!!!! And the gm licht weight should have seen that last year, and traded gmc when they had value!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2019 season will reveal answers to the sheep, that the “real” fans already know!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@joe – Free The Realist!!!!!!!! DO not moderate the “TRUTH”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:24 am
THETRUTH Says
“Should cut him to 8million a year… “The
Completely unrealistic.
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:34 am
I would imagine the barriers being face are length of contract and amount of pay cut.
Those suggesting he restructure to $8,000,000 per year are suggesting his pay be cut nearly in half. No player will agree to that.
Ever.
The only restructure we’ve seen was only a million saved.
A more realistic number is $10-11 million per year.
And he won’t be traded during the draft. It must be fun to fantasize about such a thing, but Jason Licht has NEVER traded an actual player during a draft.
More likely scenario: Bruce and Jason are purposefully delaying talks until after the draft. If they get a GMC replacement, they’ll have all the power.
And if they don’t, eating his contract one more year is not a big deal. It will give them the freedom that restructuring takes away.
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:35 am
Can’t change what’s on tape. He’s been a check casher for more than two years now and other teams know it. Paying him that money last year was a disaster since everyone outside of the organization called it. Makes them look like they don’t know WTF they are doing when fans can say told you so!
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:36 am
I am confused according to bonzi and the other cancer93 nuthuggers…. teams would lining to throw multiple pics if cancer93 was on the block but once again i am right no one is giving anything up for a soft, fragile crying clown with a great first step to nowhere….. please accept my condolences nuthuggers you have been worshipping a career loser and fraud
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:37 am
The Buc Realist Says:
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:23 am
@Joe
“What Hurts gmc value is a huge, deep draft of D-line talent!!!!!!!!!! And the gm licht weight should have seen that last year, and traded gmc when they had value!!!!”
This is something we both suggest last year, yet fans scoffed at us.
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:38 am
When you read thru this forum, starting with the leaders, its clear GMC is not appreciated here. You know, because we have so many 6 pro bowl players. I hope he goes somewhere where he is appreciated. Because on this forum the fans love, ummm, no one. Except for the strange love from the top of Grimes and his wife.
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:38 am
McCoy was a solid player. I agree around 8 million would be fair. However, I think both parties have moved on. Given the talent in this years draft…Bucs need to move forward. If McCoy wants to play, several teams would pay 7 or 8 million to have him. He is not going to get 13…so holding out on the Bucs is silly if he wants to play.
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:40 am
Knowing the Bucs, they’ll get nothing for him, cut him, he’ll sign with a good team for half the money, and have his best season ever.
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:41 am
The Bucs probably asked him to take a pay cut, and the situation is escalating fast. If Team Glazer had their way, they would prefer to extend GMC’s contract, a clear sign that he would be on his way out. Team Glazer must suffer from some kind of collective guilt when they have to fire coaches, GMs, and players. Paying those people not to coach, manage, and play might be a way to make them feel better about themselves. Licht has a windfall coming his way.
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:43 am
I’m sorry Ben
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:43 am
tmaxcon Says:
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:36 am
I am confused according to bonzi and the other cancer93 nuthuggers…. teams would lining to throw multiple pics if cancer93 was on the block”
Nice try, One-Trick-Dimwit, but timing is everything.
I wanted McCoy traded last year, when he had value…but not because of the same racist reasons you want him gone.
Deciding when the time is right to trade a player is important. For example…trading Lavante David right now would be smart. He’s productive. Waiting until he has a down year is not smart.
I say this not because I expect you to grasp it, but because others will. You will remain one-dimensional as usual.
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:45 am
Pro bowls are meaningless people…. nothing more than a popularity contest completely unrelated to on field play…
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:46 am
Winston and McCoy to Seattle in exchange for Russell Wilson and then pay him what he wants.
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:46 am
I bet if GMC gets cut, he’ll get more than $15 million from another team.
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:48 am
Actually, this is great news!
If “Dunce Cap” Licht was still in charge, we would not be shopping GetMyCash, because, you know, “Dunce Cap” is smarter than everyone else.
It’s clear BA has final say over this roster now.
It’s a shame “Dunce Cap” screwed the cap and BA has to fix it.
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:49 am
All you people crying about good in community GARBAGE….staged public relations propaganda visits with camera crews is a pr stunt not helping community… cancer93 is a fraud and nuthuggers that support the fool are equally as foolish.
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:50 am
Bonzi
15 million lol do you try hard to be so stupid or does it just come natural…. wake up fool stop living in denial
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:51 am
If the Bucs decide to just let GMC go because they need the cap space and there are no trade offers – my guess is that Gerald’s value on the free market will be about $7-8M.
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:51 am
I don’t believe (like in MLB) a team is permitted to absorb part of a player’s salary…..the new team must pay it…….since there are no guarantees the new team is not stuck with the $13 million and could renegotiate a salary with GMC…..but GMC doesn’t have to accept.
The problem, as it was with Djax, is one of timing……Licht has waited to long to make a move….holding out hope for a playoff appearance last year…..now he is too old vs. his salary.
Also, GMC would have to be given at least a two year salary guarantee to take a cut and Bucs probably don’t want to do that.
So, goodbye GMC and we may get nothing but the $13 cap space in return….but that may be good enough at this point…..Sorry for all concerned.
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:53 am
someone will cough up a 6th or 7th rounder after the draft if he’s willing to renegotiate with that team. Right now no one will give him the time of day. The only chance he has is a team one DT short to make a Super Bowl run.
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:54 am
Bucs are obviously totally going to 34 defense with talk of JPP playing over a guard, Nassib as OLB and bulking up Gholston. The soft ice cream man doesn’t fit anywhere. Strictly a one gap under tackle…
His disappearance and departure is a welcome sight for the franchise. Loser mentality reduction…
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:55 am
noway you get more than a 4th… realisticly a 6 or you have to cut.
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:56 am
If I’m GMC I don’t renegotiate; he will get more than 8M on the open market.
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:57 am
GMC is a good player, but if the Bucs ever thought they could trade him with a $13MM per year salary they were living in a dream world.
If his salary was $7MM per year then I think they would have a number of teams that would want him.
I would guess his personal pride will get in the way of him restructuring to stay in Tampa.
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:02 am
@Joe
and in the name of “truth” and “transparency”, word on the street, was that last year, a potential of a trade was just beginning to be explored, when gmc and his agent freaked out, and ran it up the flag pole!!!!!!! The higher ups panicked because of the potential fall out of trading the ” fan favorite” and ” great in the community” !!!!!!!!!!!! which lead to the duct taping a defunct defense that was only supposed to be ran for 1 year of 2016 NOT THREE YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!! But gmc got his way, and would pout if he was not used as the defacto 3 technique!!!!!!!!!!!
and that hurts his value as well!!!!!! That is well known throughout the league, that if you ask gmc to do anything but play him as a penetrating, disrupting, three technique, that you will get eye rolls- back handed grumbling and other disruptive complaints in the locker room!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2019 season will reveal answers to the sheep, that the “real” fans already know!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@joe – Free The Realist!!!!!!!! DO not moderate the “TRUTH”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:02 am
wausa I don’t know if its pride or if its the money
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:04 am
Another example of Jason holding on too long!!! He did it with djax, glennon, mccoy and more
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:04 am
5 million per is fair
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:04 am
Bird Says:
April 3rd, 2019 at 8:14 am
In a trade , can you offer to pay a portion of salary ?
For example – Here is GMC for a 4th round pick and we will pay 5 mil of salary and new team pays 8?
I know a team is just waiting for him to be released so new team can pay around 8 mil. Rams or patriots ? Suh replacement for a lot less.
Answer is yes. I read earlier this year that the Dolphins agreed to pay part of RT’s salary in a trade to the Titans. Now the difference is McCoy does not have any guaranteed money. Not really sure if that’s relevant though. If a team trades for McCoy they can renogiate just like the Titans did.
Schefter has added Miami agreed to pay $5 million of the guaranteed $7 million from the Titans as a signing bonus.
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:05 am
Yeah GMC is definitely the best DT in football. I wonder why we can’t trade him /sarcasm
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:07 am
What street?
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:11 am
Just like DJax but MUCH worse due to the residual playing value that GMC has to other teams, THIS IS yet another example of poorly, rather pitifully-timed attempts at trading a player that should have been dealt LAST YEAR during the season, to acquire whatever reasonable value we could obtain for GMC in return!! When JPP/Nassib/VV were supporting the line just fine by themselves.
But doofus Licht got cute AGAIN, just like he did with DJax.
It is so infuriating, how much better anyone qualified could be performing in his place in roster management, pushback on salary cap stunt management, and scouting personnel changes.
EFFING shame.
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:14 am
@Joe
“The” street!!!!!!!!!!!!!
or do you think that the rumors of a trade last year were not floated out to gauge interest????????? Do you think that after GMC complained, then got his way, and then proclaimed that ” I am staying” was just a coincidence?????? Joe is one of the best at following the bread crumbs!!!!!!! Just follow the trail, and ask around!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And what happen to my full “carte blanche” ????? why have a done to be moderated in this manner????????????? other than report the truth!!!!!!!!!!!
2019 season will reveal answers to the sheep, that the “real” fans already know!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@joe – Free The Realist!!!!!!!! DO not moderate the “TRUTH”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:18 am
i am starting a go fund me page for a statute of the fraud cancer93…. we will simply caption the statue “The Face of the Basement Years” Put it right next to Gruden and Sapp at stadium so bonzi, sc and joe have a shrine to worship their career loser hero… facebook rendered the word Friend meaningless, libs have rendered the word racist meaningless, jbf has rendered the terms / words STUD and LEGEND meaningless…
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:21 am
Joe Says:
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:17 am
or do you think that the rumors of a trade last year were not floated out to gauge interest?
Didn’t hear of any.
Did not hear or choose to ignore???? I understand. I went head over heels for an ugly girl once back in the 80’s and ignored the writing on the wall and friends… Hang in there joe it happens to the best of us…. there is a change your standards will return
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:22 am
Trade up to get SF’s #2 pick, a 4th rounder in 2020 plus GMC, subsidizing $4MM of his salary. Thus, we secure the #1 defensive pick in 2019. And free up all the cap space necessary to pay for our 2019 draft picks.
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:36 am
Four coaching regimes have tried to build a defense around this guy, all have failed, been fired, and cant sniff another head coaching gig. He wont play a 5-technique, so get rid of him. He has no scheme flexibility.
How anybody still thinks this guy will suit up for this team this year is beyond me. Arians and Bowles dont strike me as idiots. They arent going to allow this guy to gobble up another massive paycheck from their team to watch him disappear when the season is on the line.
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:38 am
“It is starting to smell as if the Bucs are not willing to build a defense around GMC. And that may spell the end of GMC’s days in Tampa Bay.”
LOL that is the problem Now! They shoulda done that in the first place.
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:38 am
@Joe
But you reported it??????
https://www.joebucsfan.com/2018/03/strong-mccoy-raiders-rumors/
Can I be released from moderation, just on the fact of being the unofficial buc historian????????
https://www.joebucsfan.com/2018/03/strong-mccoy-raiders-rumors/
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:39 am
Bonzai—
“One-Trick-Dimwit.”
Love it, but I think you are far too kind by giving the empty headed amoeba too much credit!
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:40 am
you people freaking out on licht are way off base. the fact is cancer93 has never had any trade value outside of the nuthuggers society led by joe…. no one outside of tampa has ever though cancer93 was great…. sure the announcers spew nonstop over him but not out of greatness; he simply is the only dude on the team they can remember the name of…
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:40 am
Another indictment of how horrible of a GM licht is. The team was terrible when licht took over, get rid of your best asset and build a winner not sit and watch while rome burns. Licht should have traded GMC when the value was at its peak. The bucs never won squat with gmc on the team, unload him. At the very least licht should have traded him and djax last season when they would have gotten something for them…..again why is licht still the GM?
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:41 am
Hopefully they can get something for him. Any pick is better than no pick if he gets cut.
Try to do a DJax type of trade. GMC and a 2020 5th for a 2019 4th. A 4th might be unrealistic but just an example.
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:42 am
JA Says:
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:39 am
Bonzai—
“One-Trick-Dimwit.”
Love it, but I think you are far too kind by giving the empty headed amoeba too much credit!
still butthurt ladies that I am always right… Send joe your mailing address i’ll gladly send you tmax is always right t shirts for the entire family to wear…
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:43 am
Has not played to the level of his salary for a few years sounds about right. New coaches were just dumb to keep trying to build a defense around this guy which tells me how much smarter BA is compared to the last few coaches. But should have traded him to early instead of too late. This is the failure of licht and in line with the error of not trading d jack last year, should have had a fire sale last year
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:48 am
realist
give it up man….lol….
there was no trade offer……there was no “word on the street”…..
smitty handicapped the defense with his passive off zone coverage along with lack of creativity and lack of aggression…..
the only rumor that was floating around last year was if dirk didnt win 8games he was toast…..and that turned out to be true!!!!!!…..
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:52 am
@813broccoli
“smitty handicapped the defense with his passive off zone coverage”
sure was!!!!!!!! Was that what he wanted???? or because he was told to use loser lovie’s leftovers!!!!!!!! And when he did try something knew, gmc complained!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Published on October 25, 2017
“McCoy spent about half the game last week working in a three-man front and while he didn’t come right out and say he didn’t like it, he certainly didn’t endorse the practice.
“I just play what they call,’’ McCoy said with a sardonic chuckle when asked about the strategy. “Whatever we run, I just kind of go with it. I’m a team guy so I do what they ask me to do.
“Do I feel like I could be more effective in a different way? Yes. But I’m a team guy. It’s not about Gerald. So whatever coach calls is what I’m going to run.’’
Bucs defensive coordinator Mike Smith acknowledge making more use of a three-lineman, three-linebacker, five-defensive back set in the Bucs 30-27 loss at Buffalo last week.”
GO Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:54 am
i would love to get a pick for him but i really could care less…..i think cutting him would send a strong message to the team…..
its a new sheriff in town and he’s looking for some young deputies to help lead the charge(VHG, mike evans, winston)…..
competition brings out the best….GMC got use to not competing in practice….thats all changing now….everyone has to compete in practice in order to play in the game….
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!
April 3rd, 2019 at 9:55 am
now go draft ed oliver…..
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!
April 3rd, 2019 at 10:00 am
@Joe
If you are going to moderate me out of conversations in JBF, you could at least have your web-master change the “allow” to “Allow the TRUTH” for my comments!!!!!!! You know, just for accuracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 3rd, 2019 at 10:03 am
6 years ago I stated on these very pages the bucs would never win a meaningful game with cancer93 on the roster and its looking once again like I will be correct…
Hawaiian
looks like all those meaningless pro bowls you spouted about never translated to a single signature game nor meaningful win in her buc career… a freaking decade and not a single win or signature game. simply just pathetic.
I will give you credit for supporting a loser at such a high level for so long without any facts or on field evidence to support the greatness you spouted off nonstop about. You must have worked on a Clinton campaign in the past not sure any other organization can train someone to support such garbage at an intense level for prolonged period of time. You are/were a good soldier for a failed cause.
April 3rd, 2019 at 10:03 am
@TheTruth … “Should cut him to 8million a year (if not release him )”. A contract is a contract, and the Bucs can’t unilaterally cut GMC from $13 mil to $8 mil. They can however release him outright & renegotiate a NEW contract with him if both parties are willing to do that. I don’t blame GMC for sticking to his guns right now; let’s see who blinks first.
Problem that no one seems to be addressing is that if they release GMC, Bucs are left with Vea & Allen as our DTs. Whoopee. What we will have done is created YET ANOTHER STARTING HOLE that we’d either have to pay $$$ to sign a veteran for OR use a precious high draft pick to select a rookie DT. Bucs already have too many STARTING HOLES & creating another really screws us. For those willing to start the season with Benenoch or Cappa at RG, RoJo or Ellington as our second RB, Minter as our MLB and VHIII as our starting outside CB, I’d say ‘Good luck, and welcome to yet another 5-11 season’ … at best.
April 3rd, 2019 at 10:04 am
I’m a GMC fan but my goodness, I want some of what you’re drinking.
April 3rd, 2019 at 10:06 am
There should be a limit to the amount of exclamation points in a post. Just saying.
April 3rd, 2019 at 10:12 am
McCoy is the one making the mistake.
He is clearly on the downside of his career. May still be effective, but uprooting his family for probably less than what Bucs are offering in restructured contract is ignoring business reality and letting personal feelings interfere with business logic
April 3rd, 2019 at 10:14 am
Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:
“Suh is still a free agent…”
~~~~~~~~~~~
Good, let him stay a free agent.
Complete piece of crap player, and worthless.
April 3rd, 2019 at 10:19 am
Everyone does understand right…..that a team that would like to acquire GMC to ensure that they would get him, versus the open market if released, CAN AND WILL negotiate a NEW contract with his agent prior to granting the completion of the trade….
You all do understand that right?!!
Trading GMC is NOT simply about the acquiring team just taking his current contract, yes or no….it’s far more sophisticated than that in their options to make GMC happy with new guaranteed $$$, in exchange for tearing up the current deal to thus complete the trade.
Knowledge dropped on ya….
April 3rd, 2019 at 10:19 am
T.m.a.x.
“i’ll gladly send you tmax is always right t shirts for the entire family to wear…”
~~~~~~~~~~
Ok that one was pretty damn funny, T.
LOL
April 3rd, 2019 at 10:30 am
DR, there are so many holes on this team that have not been addressed. Everyone banging the drum for the DL but as joe has mentioned numerous times, DL as rookies basically do nothing. I think Oliver is a huge mistake for the bucs. As of today the bucs look worse than a 5-11 team, the espn power rankings have the bucs 29th and then vegas have us at 6 wins
April 3rd, 2019 at 10:35 am
Tampa Bay Demon
oh I am going to make a cancer93 departure shirt for sure!!!! the day his name is removed from roster will be the first day this team has hope since he walked in the door.
April 3rd, 2019 at 10:35 am
GMC still has two years left in him. He needs to renegotiate and not listen to his agent. He is not going to get $13M anywhere else and if he leaves he will end up making a lot less then the deal he renegotiates with the Bucs.
April 3rd, 2019 at 10:39 am
Hey realist! Hit em up with another realist narcissistic repost!!!
April 3rd, 2019 at 10:44 am
@Bucsfan951
“yawn”
April 3rd, 2019 at 10:46 am
@Bucsfan951
You wanted it!!!!!! You Requested it!!!!!!! You got it!!!!!!!!!!! This is what I do!!!!! Make dreams and wishes happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(you have to wait will joe moderates/approves the TRUTH!!!!!!!!)
Its another famous and much requested “REALIST REPOST”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Buc Realist Says:
February 21st, 2018 at 9:51 am
The Buc Realist Says:
February 20th, 2018 at 10:55 am
Trade GMC for picks!!!! Don’t need the phony captain crying about playing out of position in a 3-4 holding the whole defense back!!!!!!!!!
Draft
1st Mount Vea
2nd Harold Landry
If the Bucs commit fully to switching to a 3-4 front defense, then the “real” fans will give this regime 2 years to get the roster and scheme installed!!!!!! 2 year extension to all coaches!!!!!!
Make the best choice and switch to the 3-4!!!!!!!
GO Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!
April 3rd, 2019 at 10:50 am
realist
lovie’s left overs?….lol…
you mean the leftovers like:
grimes
robert ayers
beckwith
spence
VHG
because we did go 9-7 that year…..oh wait, those players never played for lovie….those were all smitty’s players…..
the secondary didnt like playing 10yards off…..LB’s didnt like reading and reacting…..NOBODY LIKED SMITTY’S DEFENSE……
smitty’s defense was trash 2 years in a row….but somehow its GMC’s fault…..
only you believe that…..lol…..
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!
April 3rd, 2019 at 10:50 am
McCoy making 15 million on another team 🤣🤣🤣. Clueless
April 3rd, 2019 at 10:57 am
lol….
@realist wanted 2 more years of 5win seasons, lack of development and incompetent coaching….lol…..
realist, ask youself, if smitty was so good or got a raw deal dealing with cry baby GMC, why didnt he get a sniff at another NFL job?…..DC, LB coach, run game coordinator something…..because they know smitty’s scheme is updated and passive…..
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!
April 3rd, 2019 at 10:59 am
Ya’ll need to stop throwing that BS around like you know or knew something. I will simply say this, and it’s not to say it didn’t happen but, GMC or any other player should not be dictating to the coach, to the GM, and to the owners what should or shouldn’t be done personnel-wise. If it is or was, that is an organizational failure of epic proportions.
Koetter was not a good HC. He probably didn’t have the spine to tell Jason Licht what to do, and when. So, maybe we missed out on trading GMC. Maybe not.
The bottom line is that this organization should have been preparing to replace him all along. It’s no secret that Father Time is undefeated. We can debate his worth as a player all day long, but facts are facts.
His tenure will forever be tied to a history of losing. I for one, cannot put the blame squarely on the shoulders of ONE player. That’s not how team sports work.
IMO, McCoy will go down as one of the better, more consistent players that we’ve had on defense over the span of his career. His memory, like that of these losing years, will hopefully be long forgotten behind one of the biggest franchise turnarounds in the history of the NFL!
16-DASH-0!!!! Say it with me…..
April 3rd, 2019 at 11:02 am
@813broccoli
The defense was trash!!!!!!! But Smitty had a much harder schedule, more injuries to deal with!!!!!!! And loser lovie still was a full point higher in points allowed, even though in most blowouts the other teams were running out the clock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The defense the last 2 years was trash!!!!! but was even worse in 2014-15!!!!!!!! and what is worst!!!! Not only was loser lovie an incompetent coach, but was even a more bumbling gm who had the “juice” at the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! even worse than Coach Smitty not fixing loser lovies mess, was that they never moved on from incompetents lovie mess and just did a horrible patch job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So to simply this so you understand, read it slowly three times!!!!! Coach Smitty defense Trash, incompetent loser lovie, worst defense in buc history !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 3rd, 2019 at 11:14 am
Bucsfanman
I am worried about you brother…… say it with me 16-0 in same sentence with bucs = BAKER ACT
April 3rd, 2019 at 11:16 am
Hey Joes, were there any other players not attending the voluntary conditioning sessions, or only McCoy?
April 3rd, 2019 at 11:38 am
I was a big fan of McCoy, until I read so many, many negative comments here in recent years. So I focused more attention on #93. I finally saw what so many here have said all along. Good riddance Cancer93.
April 3rd, 2019 at 12:09 pm
He’s not worth $13M. The rest of the NFL agrees. This is news?
Real Bucs fans have been screaming this for YEARS now.
Maybe someday Joe will wake up. It reminds me of his Manziel blindness a few years back.
April 3rd, 2019 at 12:18 pm
The real issue is the Bucs changing coaches every three years. The players then get recycled and there is no continuity
April 3rd, 2019 at 12:23 pm
Who does GetMyCash think he is?
Why does he think he is owed something?
He’s not showing up because his feelings are hurt?
Hey, the Bucs cut Brooks without warning or negotiating.
Mr. GMC…you are NO BROOKS, so quit acting like you’re some super player.
News flash…You’re NOT!
April 3rd, 2019 at 12:38 pm
@realist
smitty had more talent than lovie…..simple as that….
smitty had 3years to do what he wanted to do with the defense and couldnt “fix” anything…..
smitty had the worse defense in bucs and nfl history 2years in a row….you cant defend that…..
if lovie was so trash and incompetent, why is he a college HC that just received an extension while smitty is writing in his diary…..
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!
April 3rd, 2019 at 12:39 pm
Hey but Tmax and I are just trolls!
How many morons said we could get a 2nd or 3rd round pick for McIceCream?
We tried to tell you we couldn’t get a bologna sandwich but wtfdwk!!!
April 3rd, 2019 at 12:53 pm
I think he’s gone – and something happens at draft day.
April 3rd, 2019 at 1:02 pm
You can’t build a defense around the most talented player in football at any position if he isn’t a leader and it’s twice as bad if the player relishes being a leader ( check) . It Doesn’t work and I’ve been saying it before T max celebrated his birthday in 2015 .
Shame on the Team Management but I was confident that he wouldn’t pass the Arians test , to much film and def performance history . He needs to go to philly or the Rams and would do so for prob 8 mil . He would play much better and be a force just fitting in and not being / trying so hard to be the face!!! The man can play but his brain gets in the way and Licht just isn’t a good negotiator, McKay would have had him gone and Happy at 8 to 10 mil for a late second . The guy can bring way way Way more to a contender than the Bucs and given the right middle man McCoy would jump at the opportunity!!!
April 3rd, 2019 at 1:05 pm
DB55
Hope you and family are well… visionaries and forward thinkers that judge on results not feelings are always falsely labeled unti the truth is realized
April 3rd, 2019 at 1:23 pm
Tmax
It don’t take a genius to see he’s a bum. Which says a lot about the fan base but wtfdik.
Sad part is that the kid could dominate if he had a heart the size of the grinch but he doesn’t. He don’t have NO HEART!!!!
April 3rd, 2019 at 1:24 pm
DB55- After seeing what most would say were better players being traded for 4th, 5th, and 6th rounders, it really hit home.
Consider that we traded a #3 for JPP. Far better talent.
Our problem now is that in addition to not garnering anything near a 2nd or 3rd, what team in their right mind would take on his salary?! Even for a 5th or 6th round pick!
Troll? You’re no troll bro’. We disagree sometimes but you have good takes. Tmax on the other hand…..
April 3rd, 2019 at 1:29 pm
tmax- Hey man, my wife already thinks I’m crazy! My TV room/man-cave is padded for this reason!
Besides, during football season, those “time outs” are my sober times!
April 3rd, 2019 at 1:53 pm
Here’s how the trade phone calls go:
Licht: “Hey – are you interested in trading for Gerald McCoy?”
GM: “Maybe. What’s his salary this coming season?”
Licht: “Thirteen million.”
GM: “No, seriously.”
Licht: “Thirteen million.”
GM: “Aaaaahahahahahahahahaha!!!”
*GM hangs up*
Licht: “Hello?”
April 3rd, 2019 at 2:08 pm
Its amazing to me that people still make excuses for McCoy.
Too many coaches? Sorry, but he’s been a big part of the problem.
Not enough talent around him? JPP arrives and now its “its too late”
So sad. He’ll be gone in 2019 and this franchise will march on.
Like someone else said here, McCoy could be a beast but he’s got no heart. He’s just one of those guys that plays for money, fame, anything else other than the love of the game. Great guy. Nice guy. Just not a winner.
April 3rd, 2019 at 2:15 pm
GMC’s play does not match his pay so you would think he’d be willing to restructure for less before being dumped because of his salary. I don’t see his logic in his posturing. If he gets released, he will only see offers for less anyway, and probably on a one year deal. Maybe even far less than a more than generous restructured deal with the Bucs. On the surfaces it just gives the appearance of greed, and not what’s good for the team. All aging players are asked to restructure at some point.
April 3rd, 2019 at 2:25 pm
Joe hasn’t seen too many guys who can barely put their pants on after a game because they are so beat up just playing for a paycheck. Joe *has* seen guys just play for paychecks. Myron Lewis springs to mind. Dude stubs a toe in the bathtub and he’s in a boot for two months.
April 3rd, 2019 at 2:37 pm
Buc fans are blind … no one wants to pay McCoy 13 million .., hes not even worth 8 million … hes overrated
April 3rd, 2019 at 2:48 pm
McCoy’s strategy is simple….if he has to take less, he’s at least getting the option to pick where he plays. He may play for the vet minimum if it’s with Tom Brady or Drew Brees where he can run deep in the playoffs a few years. But to stay here…can’t blame him to demand $13 million. The organization is terrible, nobody is coming here on a discount.
April 3rd, 2019 at 3:18 pm
He’ll get cut and go play for a winner. Why stay here and be disrespected? This is loserville. Go Bolts!
April 3rd, 2019 at 3:23 pm
Dude stubs a toe in the bathtub and he’s in a boot for two months.
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Let’s not forget that McIceCream stubbed his pinky and was on the sidelines for a month. In all my years I’ve never seen a DT/DE or even LB miss games bc of an injured hand.
April 3rd, 2019 at 3:36 pm
If i were GMC, I would NOT renegoiate my contract. Screw’em GMC! Make your paper my man. He can easily get 8 to 10 mil on the open market. Loyalty my A..!!!!!
April 3rd, 2019 at 3:56 pm
It’s what happens when a team tries to kick the can down the road. maybe he does not see why he should pay for their failures. They made the deal. F them. Hope he goes to a winner because just about any team can get to a Super Bowl before this one.
April 3rd, 2019 at 4:31 pm
good grief .. In my world 8 – 10 million is a helluva lot less than 13 million. Give us that deal or move on. We’ve been losing with you and we can lose without you as well.
April 3rd, 2019 at 4:50 pm
“I bet if GMC gets cut, he’ll get more than $15 million from another team.”
World class thinking there. That quote right there is how you can pretty much decide everything else that comes out of your mouth ain’t worth anything.
If that quote were true, teams would be lining up to have McCoy. Why? Because they can have him now for 13 million….
That is why you are typing on your keyboard, and not running an NFL franchise.
April 3rd, 2019 at 5:01 pm
Teams will not pay 13 million … they will wait for the Bucs to cut him which I said inevitable… and then he will be signed but not for anything close to 8 million… he’s been a average DT … buc fans swear he’s all that… it would be a disgrace to put him beside names like lynch barber Sapp and the rest in the ring of honor
April 3rd, 2019 at 6:11 pm
Oh let’s see mike , play for my choice of champion potential teams for 7 or 8 mil or hold out and get cut and maybe try and get 10 and still hv to take 8 and your choice of teams may lessen after the draft .
I would like my position hear to renegotiate to a team of my liking prior to the draft . Gerald has made allot of Dollars and he ain’t Sapp in that regard .
April 3rd, 2019 at 6:52 pm
T REX Says:
April 3rd, 2019 at 3:18 pm
He’ll get cut and go play for a winner. Why stay here and be disrespected? This is loserville. Go Bolts!
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Exactly how I feel about Jameis. Weird huh?!
April 3rd, 2019 at 7:02 pm
He should have been unloaded long before this….JPP showed the fans what a true impact player looks like….and totally exposed GMC for the pedestrian talent he is….there aren’t many other NFL franchises where a player of this caliber could have gotten so rich
April 3rd, 2019 at 10:33 pm
I scroll though this thread just to read all of tmax’s comments Lol
Apparently he was somewhat right all along.
Speaks volumes that the first qualified HC the glazer brats ever hired wants to restructure or trade GMC yesterday
Ding dong the witch is … almost dead?
It’s also interesting that he apparently refuses to restructure…..
Nice guy???
I think not….petulant brat…maybe that’s why the glazers relate to him so well?
April 4th, 2019 at 7:24 am
When the trash in the can starts to stink you throw it out. BUH BYE Batman….
April 4th, 2019 at 1:36 pm
Once again the Bucs have gotten themselves into a position where no one will trade for a guy that could very well be cut. How many times before the front office learns to quit shootig themselves in the foot?
I’d say there is a good possibility that Gmac just retires..he has no love for the game, only having fun and making money.