Vea Getting In Work In Seclusion
September 3rd, 2018
“Pray for me, Beau.”
On the surface with the naked eye, Bucs first-round pick, defensive tackle Vita Vea, is in shorts and watching practice on the sidelines.
But behind locked doors, Vea is getting in work, Bucs coach Dirk Koetter assured the local pen and mic club today. However, it doesn’t appear that Vea is much closer to getting back on the field with a mysterious calf injury than he was the day in late July that he limped off the practice field.
And that was the last time Vea was on a football field of any sort wearing a helmet and pads, to Joe’s knowledge.
“He’s making progress but he’s just not ready to play on the field,” Koetter said today after practice.
By the look of things, it would be unwise to bank on Vea being on the field Sunday at New Orleans.
First, Vea hasn’t been on the practice field in over a month. And even if Vea could play against the Saints, just how effective could he be? He has yet to participate in a full practice with contact and pads. The last time Vea has played in a football game was against children on the roster of Penn State back in December.
With Mitch Unrein on injured reserve and who the hell knows when Vea will be available, the rotation plan on the defensive the Bucs planned to use since March is essentially tossed out the window.
And here comes Drew Brees.
Interestingly, Jenna Laine of ESPN had a Bucs source tell her at the time of Vea’s injury that he would only be out a couple of weeks and not miss any regular season games. This is yet another example of the Bucs being wildly off base with guesstimates on the recovery times of injuries or the severity of injuries in the first place.
September 3rd, 2018 at 3:22 pm
There’s only one other team that is this bad with injury predictions. It’s the Mets. 10 day DL stings become 2 month injuries. I swear the training staff got their degree from a matchbook.
I don’t know why they’re so wrong. Either they do it on purpose or they are grossly incompetent. If they’re doing it on purpose they need to be aware it makes them look incompetent.
September 3rd, 2018 at 3:23 pm
“Mysterious calf injury”…..I searched several medical journals for this…not there”
September 3rd, 2018 at 3:25 pm
man, it would be awesome if this team could get first round value out of a first-round pick just maybe once per half-century. bucs have not received good value for a first round pick, over the course of their career since the Sapp pick! Thank god he was picked before the choirboy loving hypocrite became the coach and cost this franchise at least one super bowl.
September 3rd, 2018 at 3:26 pm
Cut him
September 3rd, 2018 at 3:30 pm
We only got stuck with Jason Licht because he came with washed-up Lovie Smith. So that one really bad decision to get Smith will cost us 5 years, assuming the Bucs are horrible again this year like all the pundits say
September 3rd, 2018 at 3:33 pm
Work in seclusion? Man, I feel a lot better now, JOE. Thanks…
September 3rd, 2018 at 3:35 pm
another example of the Bucs being wildly off base with guesstimates
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Or, humor me here, they’re lying to you? Hmmm.
1. Is it possible that it’s an Achilles injury and not a calf strain? That’s a hell of a calf strain for a young athlete to not recover with every modern medical equipment known to man, I digress. Whatever happened to “walk it off”? I guess you can’t walk off an Achilles injury can you? But wtfdik?
2. If he’s working indoors my only question would be is Vea able to walk across the parking lot to his vehicle without an umbrella and a case of Gatorade? Or does he overheat the second the doors at OBP swing open? Inquiring minds want to know.
If we’re lucky maybe Vea can play the Pittsburgh game and every away game after October. That way he won’t overheat. Oh but the weather in Tampa and Hawaii are the same so wtfdik, lmaolmaolmao. Oh Tampa, ya’ll are so funny.
All I know is that in this highly competitive environment we call the NFL DJ Moore, Calvin Ridley and Marcus Davenport are ready to start and contribute. And btw for whatever it’s worth the Bucs picked before any of their division rivals.
September 3rd, 2018 at 3:40 pm
TBBF
LOL.
But there really is a whole lot of mystery. Never seen this type of radio silence about a rookie draft pick and a calf strain.
September 3rd, 2018 at 3:41 pm
Could mean anything. That is as specific as the Bucs are getting on Vea’s injury, which opens the door to a whole lot of speculating.
September 3rd, 2018 at 3:45 pm
It’s all a big conspiracy……Vita Vea has been inside Ole One Buc in a cage training like a monster and bending steel.
Meanwhile Spence has never felt better and the coaches told him to play poorly during preseason……..Why?……So Sean Payton won’t be prepared for them. Dirk is going to uncage Vita and let Spence go off on Drew Bress……..Then when they struggle to adjust we will throw McCoy outside and swing Spence out to LB. It will be a thing of beauty.
September 3rd, 2018 at 3:46 pm
Its obvious its more serious than a calf strain. I could be wrong, but i dont ever remember seein an athlete wear a boot for a calf strain.
September 3rd, 2018 at 3:47 pm
Bingo Webster
September 3rd, 2018 at 3:51 pm
Jimmy Jack you are high…..go.to bed
September 3rd, 2018 at 3:53 pm
I can’t understand what goes through anybody’s mind to criticize the Vea pick before he’s ever even been seen in a uniform.
Just like to know what your thoughts will be when you hear news that he will play? You won’t be excited?
September 3rd, 2018 at 3:54 pm
BucEmUp……….Don’t squash my dreams.
September 3rd, 2018 at 3:56 pm
JimmyJack
Not sure we are criticizing Vea as much as Criticizing the pick
September 3rd, 2018 at 4:02 pm
Derwin James is starting week 1 and roberto aguayo is not heck vh3 might not be starting, oh & dalvin cook is starting and pretty cool the saints signed mike gillisee
September 3rd, 2018 at 4:02 pm
reality-is-a-beotch WHAT ROUND SHOULD MIKE EVANS HAVE BEEN PICKED? JUST WONDERING……
September 3rd, 2018 at 4:08 pm
Gotcha jmark……There was definitely a lot of ways we could have went with that pick. I liked the Vea pick but I guess the other players are gonna have a head up on him til he heals.
September 3rd, 2018 at 4:13 pm
Gotta see the man play before a knee jerk criticism of the pick.
September 3rd, 2018 at 4:15 pm
Dushty…….Obvisous I’ve been down on VHIII but when he played against the Lions I pumped the brakes a little bit. He was faster to the ball then I’ve ever seen him.
Not sure it will carry over and I probably wouldn’t bet on it but to see a DB turn a corner in their third year and become a playmaker happens all the time.
September 3rd, 2018 at 4:17 pm
A lot of this seems like PR stupidity…but while saying that I agree with the others who question the competence of the Bucs Medical/training staff.
But everytime a Buc gets injured we are fed a line of bull about how they’ll return and it’s almost always wrong and wrong as in much sooner than reality dictates!
Wouldn’t it be better to lower our expectations than continually tell tales to build us up. If they had said Vea has a serious injury and he’ll work as hard as possible to rehab but it could be months before returning we wouldn’t be having this conversation. I’m not sure why they use the other approach unless they realize there are literally some fans who are already yelling cut him…smh…and it makes Licht look bad.
This is not a reflection on Licht…injuries happen. Unrein IS a reflection on Licht.
Messing with a concussed player is just not wise…especially in today’s NFL where CTE is front and center. The only predictable thing about concussions is that once you have a history of them the future is pretty clear.
September 3rd, 2018 at 4:18 pm
Ship Vea, Rojo, and a couple of third rounders to Pittsburgh for Leveon Bell
September 3rd, 2018 at 4:18 pm
Dalvin Cook missed most of his rookie season. Not sure how one can judge Vea yet. The Saints have a strong O line. It’s always a top priority for Sean the Cheater. It will be a good test for our D line.
September 3rd, 2018 at 4:18 pm
Once again, if you can predict injuries, please e-mail the Bucs immediately. They would likely hire you in a heartbeat and you’d likely be paid a seven-figure salary.
September 3rd, 2018 at 4:23 pm
Vea will be back by no later than week 3.
September 3rd, 2018 at 4:35 pm
Joe Says:
September 3rd, 2018 at 4:18 pm
This is not a reflection on Licht…injuries happen. Unrein IS a reflection on Licht.
Once again, if you can predict injuries, please e-mail the Bucs immediately. They would likely hire you in a heartbeat and you’d likely be paid a seve
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People with multiple concussions have a much higher propensity for additional (and worse) concussions so yes Unrein was a risk that they chose to roll the dice on.
Meanwhile Minkah Fitzpatrick is tearing it up down in Miami and will be playing and starting, just roaming around getting lining up at nickel, maybe deep safety, a blitz here, maybe an interception there just raising hell..MMMM i know a team that could’ve used more of that. Know who else will be starting? Derwin James. Vea better pan the F out, there is no getting around it
September 3rd, 2018 at 4:51 pm
JPP will likely be in DT rotation with McCoy and Allen and possibly Gholston .
Spence and Gholston need to step up…
September 3rd, 2018 at 5:20 pm
Sounds like sapp may have known what he was talking about huh?
September 3rd, 2018 at 5:30 pm
Joe Says:
September 3rd, 2018 at 4:18 pm
This is not a reflection on Licht…injuries happen. Unrein IS a reflection on Licht.
Once again, if you can predict injuries, please e-mail the Bucs immediately. They would likely hire you in a heartbeat and you’d likely be paid a seven-figure salary.
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What’s the address? I have years of accurate predictions archived on jbf.
September 3rd, 2018 at 5:39 pm
Carl Nassib is now a Buccaneer. Replacing Will Clarke. Slight upgrade in the rotation.
September 3rd, 2018 at 5:50 pm
Browns cast off Nassib is newly signed with Bucs..wonder who gets clipped by this new addition
September 3rd, 2018 at 5:52 pm
Browns cast off Carl Nassib is a new addition to the Bucs squad….so who gets clipped by this new move?
September 3rd, 2018 at 5:59 pm
Call Human Resources the moment the place opens tomorrow morning. Spend this evening brushing up your resume and printing out these crystal ball forecasts.
September 3rd, 2018 at 6:03 pm
Joe
There is ONE injury that is relatively predictable. People with histories of concussions have more concussions than those who have never had one.
Given the league’s rule changes and concerns about concussions this is not an injury you can skate around or hide.
https://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/news/20031118/one-concussion-increases-risk-of-more#1
Athletes with a history of a concussion are at greater risks for future concussion than those without a history of head injuries, writes researcher Kevin M. Guskiewicz, PhD, with the Injury Prevention Research Center at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
This study is 15 years old but nothing has changed…I chose WebMD because of their credibility.
It’s just a fact…there is a “greater” chance after a concussion you will have another…not an absolute but certainly a HUGE red flag. As you have reported here on JBF, Unrein has a documented history of concussions. This isn’t rocket science.
September 3rd, 2018 at 6:12 pm
caeric … Just read that DE Will Clarke got the boot when the Bucs signed DE Carl Nassib after he was cut by the Browns. Licht probably knows a lot more than we do about Nassib at this point, but I REALLY liked how Will Clarke has been playing. With our DLine already beaten up, not so sure the timing of this move was optimal (new guy who doesn’t know our playbook and only 5 days til New Orleans?).
September 3rd, 2018 at 6:14 pm
stpetebucsfan Says:
it is entirely possible he his having reoccurring concussion symptom without have suffered another concussion….does not look good…I’d move on ASAP…
September 3rd, 2018 at 6:14 pm
DR…I watched and liked Will Clark
September 3rd, 2018 at 6:37 pm
StPete … I agree with you. Mitch had 2 significant concussions while with the Bears from what I read, so this is his 3rd. I really hope he just says ‘Enough is enough’ for the sake of himself & his family. At 31 yrs old, he’s only going to play maybe 1 more year, and in my mind it’s not worth the risk. I’m tending to think more & more that one of the reasons the Bucs have so many injuries is because we sign too many guys with a spotty injury history. For whatever reason, it always seems to come back to bite us in the proverbial butt.
September 3rd, 2018 at 6:42 pm
AlteredEgo … Just found this about Carl Nasser on a Browns site …
“A 2016 third-round pick, Nassib had a memorable appearance on HBO’s Hard Knocks this summer when he gave investment tips during a meeting to teammates while using some colorful language. He started 12 games and recorded three sacks for Cleveland last season.”
Memorable appearance on Hard Knocks this summer? Please please please say it isn’t so … Swaggy 2.0 anyone? So the Browns just got rid of 2 DLinemen who were stalwarts on their 0-16 team last year (Jamie Meder was the other one). Why am I so skeptical of this move?
September 3rd, 2018 at 6:44 pm
@caeric. That was a good pull by the Bucs and a dumb, dumb cut by Cleveland unless of course there is some unknown injury that the Browns are aware of. Looks like Will Clark is gone but when Winston and Beckwith come back, a couple more cuts will need to happen.
September 3rd, 2018 at 7:23 pm
We’ll see.
September 3rd, 2018 at 7:27 pm
I wonder how Nassib feels he might have just went to a worse team than Browns.We will see this year.
September 3rd, 2018 at 7:33 pm
Probably pelvic inflammatory disesase also
September 3rd, 2018 at 7:54 pm
Joe Says:
September 3rd, 2018 at 5:59 pm
What’s the address? I have years of accurate predictions archived on jbf.
Call Human Resources the moment the place opens tomorrow morning. Spend this evening brushing up your resume and printing out these crystal ball forecasts.
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Done! And I listed you as a reference, I luv jbf!!!!!
September 3rd, 2018 at 7:58 pm
Another few weeks, and I call him “when can you play” Vea.
September 3rd, 2018 at 8:10 pm
Mysterious Calf Injury. Sounds like a new cheap movie title for the Sci-Fi channel.
And yes,,it appears Sapp was spot on about Vea. I’m disappointed. I’m also worried at Jones not being able to break tackles during the pre-season. The show must go on. The Saints will show no mercy. We need to be ready.
September 3rd, 2018 at 9:29 pm
@ db55
Im sorry my brother but if your resume consist of crying for steven means, najee goode, the ric flair mlb as joe likes to call him in foster, adrian claiborne or the kicker who sucked out loud after leaving the bucs (i think it was ie cant remember his name) then you need not apply for a position in the bucs front office.
September 3rd, 2018 at 10:17 pm
Everybody sing it with me “your calf bone is connected to your, achillies bone” seems to be a lite more serious than a calf strain 😳
September 4th, 2018 at 6:31 am
vea can’t take the heat…so they told him to stay out of the kitchen…he won’t be back to play until it cools off a little…until then he’s working out in seclusion with warren sapp
September 4th, 2018 at 11:04 am
Might be getting close to “cut bait time” with Unrein. . . if the kid cant get on the field we might as well look in another direction. . . and I say that more because of his age and concussion history.
This is the one season you dont want to Eff around on or this coaching staff and some FO personnel will be gone