Jameis Is Consistent
January 16th, 2018Who said America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, is inconsistent?
Even when Joe watches Jameis sometimes, one game he looks sharp, the next week he looks like a rookie. Those who follow Joe on Twitter during gamedays may notice Joe types, “Today is Good Jameis,” or “Bad Jameis has arrived today.”
But Joe’s eyes are being deceived, claims Vincent Verhei of FootballOutsiders.com. Using some type of stats system outlined in his article, it seems Jameis is actually one of the more consistent quarterbacks in the NFL, at least for 2017 — more so than even Tom Brady!
Joe finds this difficult to believe but perhaps the myth of Jameis being an erratic quarterback is overstated?
January 16th, 2018 at 9:37 am
???
January 16th, 2018 at 9:41 am
I wish they were consistent in scoring points.
January 16th, 2018 at 9:42 am
consistently …inconsistent
January 16th, 2018 at 9:45 am
Consistent eh?! Hmmm!
January 16th, 2018 at 9:49 am
That’s why I didn’t understand the bashing on JW during the season.
January 16th, 2018 at 9:52 am
Would’ve helped if Verhei had defined some of the acronyms he was using in that article. Guess he just wanted us to take his word for it that his analysis concluded that Bortles was REALLY bad. And yet … Bortles is in the AFC Championship game AND he played good enough during the season & playoffs to get Jacksonville where they are. Go figure. Maybe the notion of building a complete T-E-A-M means something after all Joe. Think we could convince Jason Licht of that?
Oh and congrats on making the case for Good Jameis. Was it Good Jameis who threw for 367 yards (78%) in the 2nd Carolina game yet lost 3 fumbles or did Bad Jameis just show up sporadically?
January 16th, 2018 at 9:53 am
This is the problem with this team, it’s media coverage and everything else they do, you don’t sell tickets or win fans based on stats, your eyes tell you everything you want to know. Honestly how good or bad our quarterback is doesn’t matter when your 5-11 if he was inconsistent like we all know he is but this team went 9-7 the talk around town would be a little different. Nope sorry he is as inconsistent as you can be but he’s my guy until he’s not
January 16th, 2018 at 9:54 am
With all of the high draft picks that has been spent on this offense. And the DJAX signings, all they can score is 19.2 points a game. This offense is a complete failure.
January 16th, 2018 at 10:01 am
Doesn’t help when Eli Manning is the next ranked player for being more consistent than Jamies followed by Jacoby Brissett.
Look, I’m sold on Jamies but just once I would like to watch him kneel down during the final two minutes of the game. In order to do that we would have to have the lead at the end of a game and be able to close it out which we can’t do. Part of the reason why is Fumbles and absent first half performances which Jamies has a huge responsibility for.
January 16th, 2018 at 10:10 am
When I click on that link it is all about Blake Bortles. I see JW’s name only once and it is in a chart.
January 16th, 2018 at 10:13 am
His effort is consistent, that’s for sure.
January 16th, 2018 at 10:45 am
Currently Jameis is a slightly..just above average QB on a losing team. I wish Buc fans realized you don’t need a great QB ro WIN. I mean just look at the playoffs being played this year, But you do need a great Defense. For all this talk about establishing the Bucs as an Offensive Jauganaunt is useless. You got quite a few average Offensive teams in the playoffs. Bucs approached team building all wrong. You Build your Defense First and formost..fortify your trenches. Everything else follows.
January 16th, 2018 at 12:09 pm
It must tiring to constantly be on the lookout for anything positive about jw. someone was the othe day on here that said he’s the next kobe, tyson, tupac
gotta say he’s on to something. all four of them have one thing in common. and it aint sports! trade this bum and get someone with an iq above 70
January 16th, 2018 at 12:52 pm
Bad Jameis got in the Uber.
January 16th, 2018 at 1:24 pm
lightningbuc….LOL
MikeJ Your take catches what really happened. At this point #3 still has the majority of his future and evolution ahead of him. But at this moment I think he is a better than average QB playing on a team that had a poor season.
Given the average team in a league that is full of mediocrity…look at the playoffs!
A totally healthy Bucs squad…especially at QB…I wouldn’t call the Bucs poor heading into 2018. Sometimes good teams play poorly…the Bucs certainly did that this year and so looking at history I can see Mike why you and the others remain so pessimistic. I’m an optimist but I’ll confess I wouldn’t go to Vegas and back this opinion with money!!! 🙂
January 16th, 2018 at 1:50 pm
The Good, the Bad….then comes the Ugly.
January 16th, 2018 at 1:50 pm
You see, in this world there’s two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig.
January 16th, 2018 at 2:03 pm
Winston was very consistent this year – the only game where he sort of went out guns a blazing was the last game were he was trying to make sure Evans hot his 1000 season and forced the ball, but otherwise Winston performed mostly the same from week to week. Now if you want variance then look at 1st stats vs 2nd half stats, Jameis is a dramaticly better second half player.
January 16th, 2018 at 3:01 pm
Winston’s was pretty consistent in yards per attempt and completion percentage also. I compared the standard deviation (square root of the variance) of his full games to the teams that played against us. These stats are game weighted as opposed to attempt weighted.
JW averaged a 65.1% with a very tight 8% standard deviation. Our opponents averaged a 68% completion rate rate with a still pretty tight 10% standard deviation. Interestingly, the quarterbacks we played averaged a much lower 64.4% completion rate on their season stats.
A more telling metric and probably the most consistent statistic in measuring quarterback performance is the yards per attempt rate. Of the top 12 quarterbacks, 9 made the playoffs three are still in it. Winston is tied for 4th-7th in the attempt weighted stats at Pro Football Refernce. He, Rivers and Cousins are the three qbs who rank in the top 12, but were not one of the 12 playoff teams. Mariota (16), Taylor (23) and Bortles (17) made the playoffs from the outside.
Winston’s game weighted average (throwing out the two partial games where he was injured) is 8.21 with a standard deviation of 1.94. Opposing quarterbacks’ game weighted average was 7.92 with a standard deviation of 2.28. Opponent quarterbacks averaged 7.15 on the season, more than three quarters of a yard better against us than they did against everyone else.
January 16th, 2018 at 7:20 pm
Consistently gets the ball thrown or handed off to people. Sure. Agree.
Unfortunately it’s to the wrong team to many times.
January 16th, 2018 at 8:14 pm
Roethlisberger came out today and said he’s not allowed to check into a QB sneak – well Dirk has the same rules for Winston. Why would you ever take something off the table when you have a bring strong QB?
January 16th, 2018 at 8:16 pm
Interesting stats gambelero .
January 16th, 2018 at 11:49 pm
Consistently overrated
Consistently inaccurate
Consistently made fun of by his peers
Consistently losing
January 17th, 2018 at 5:56 am
@Eric, don’t be so hard on yourself. Although I agree on your self assessment, don’t fret. We don’t pay attention to your comments anyway.