Why The Hate?
December 1st, 2017
Strong year.
Sorry, but Joe still doesn’t understand.
Not to get off track here, but some inside baseball: Joe gets e-mails from the NFL weekly that highlight various players and what to look for in an upcoming game. Think a very brief version of Joe’s “Gameday Tampa Bay!” only without a hot cheerleader.
In this week’s e-mail, there was this item about the Bucs-Packers game:
Gerald McCoy: has 3 sacks in past 3 games. Since 2013, leads NFL DTs with 38.5 sacks.
Additionally, with five games left, GMC has already matched his career season-high of 21 quarterback hits that he set in 2013.
Even Dirk Koetter is impressed as he explained yesterday.
“I would just say he is every bit as disruptive as he’s always been,” Koetter said of GMC. “Gerald plays extremely hard when he is in there. He plays the most number of plays on our defensive front. He is getting double teamed the most of anybody on our defensive front and he is still a very disruptive player. What has hurt us is when Gerald is getting double teamed and using two blockers, our other guys that have been single haven’t been able to get home.”
No, GMC is not Warren Sapp. Neither is Geno Atkins or Ndamukong Suh and, possibly, Aaron Donald. Joe doesn’t see Rams or Bengals or Dolphins fans wanting to run off those guys because they are not Sapp.
GMC is not a cartoon character. He doesn’t stomp through teams’ pregame warmups, he doesn’t dropkick pylons. He doesn’t spit in faces of opponents, he doesn’t kick people in the nuts or jam his finger in another man’s eye. Neither did Lee Roy Selmon.
Last Joe checked, the Bucs are 4-7. As Bill Parcells would say, that’s a bad team. Bad teams have no reason to run off good players.
December 1st, 2017 at 9:18 am
you get people hating on McCoy? McCoy is one of the few reasons the Bucs are relevant in the league! He’s an All-Pro level DT who deserves another Pro Bowl invite, he’s got class and for all I know he’s one of the best leaders in the locker room (I have never heard stories otherwise).
Who the hell dumps on McCoy??? The only thing I can think of is that it’s Russian hackers trying to divide Buc Nation and trick the team into sending GMC to Dallas or New England… it’s insane. Block those emailers.
December 1st, 2017 at 9:30 am
Its because hes a cancer when he plays loghts out with effort defense is much better but sometimes he gives up and only worries about himself. Hes a loser point blank period and i think we would be better if he was an effort guy
December 1st, 2017 at 9:31 am
The reason for the hate is because he is the poster child for the bucs losing culture since he has been here and he appears to not be phased by losing as long as he gets paid, the losing does not seem to hurt him or if he cares that being on a losing team equates him to being a loser, maybe he was made a leader and he is just not the type of person who should be a leader but he had to because the bucs have been so deprived due to piss poor personnel moves and a QB in freeman flaking out and now with winston possibly having issues, the bucs must just be cursed, I personally wish GMC could be traded for a first if possible or at least a few 2s but with Licht at the helm that isn’t happening because he has no clue on how to manage a team and gain an identity
December 1st, 2017 at 9:47 am
Ditto here…he never appears upset with a loss, thus influencing the team that it’s ok to lose, we gonna be paid anyway…Here’s a radical thought >> How bout the league shifted to a “Pay for win and losses” system…Cap on salaries and bonus money for wins and championships…I bet the urgency for winning would go up substantially…The money has really harmed the NFL product, no question…
December 1st, 2017 at 9:49 am
No lead is safe with captain Ice Cream in the trenches. Not a 24-0 lead at the half and not a 7 point lead with 3 mins left.
December 1st, 2017 at 9:49 am
I hear about how good McCoy is
And to a point I agree he is GOOD
I think some of us don’t think he is great
I believe he can be GREAT but I have seen him take plays off
GMC has been called out by great players but I’ve never seen JOE WRITE ABOUT THAT
JOE has called out ever play on this team except GMC
McCoys lack of passion after losing is also a problem NO he doesn’t have to kick players but to say Oh we were Flat today.
December 1st, 2017 at 9:55 am
I’m positive if you were to poll nfl coaches they would take Aaron and Geno before McIceCream. Hell I’m not sure gmc is even the best 3tech in the nfc south. Short and Jarrett come to mind, they may not be sack masters but those dudes live in the backfield all game and make big plays when it counts.
December 1st, 2017 at 9:57 am
The best part of all this is that McCoy has more sacks than wins since 2013.
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamnnnnnnnnn boooooom got’em!
December 1st, 2017 at 9:57 am
The stupidest thing you could ever say is he “appears” to be okay with losing. What is that based upon? I’ve seen Jameis swap jerseys and smile with opposing players after a loss plenty of times, and we all know he doesn’t want to lose. GMC isn’t you. He’s not going to throw his keyboard and throw a hissy fit after a loss, nor should he. He is a professional athlete, and he behaves himself as such. There is absolutely no difference between the way he acts and the way guys like Jameis, Lavonte, Ayers, Evans, etc. act. None. This bullcrap that many of you keep saying is nothing but food for your agenda. You don’t have to like him. That’s your right as a fan.But making up how you think he feels is stupid, and just plain wrong.
December 1st, 2017 at 9:59 am
Gmc is garbage.
When gmc opens his mouth u should know he cares about probowls and sacks and chasing the ghost of Booger McFarland. Gmc never makes that one play…… u know that one goalline stop. 7 years still haven’t happened . The bigger the game the less u see gmc. Constantly play patty cake w lineman when he is 1 on 1. Literally gives up the booty cuz his back his facing the linemen.
Gmc 1st prest conference he was suppose to step up and be this LEADER for us and play alpha dog. U know he did started off as a mean dog(call to beat up fans and all) then the losing came he went turtle. Selfish player. It’s not hate when it’s true and u call it how u see it.
December 1st, 2017 at 10:00 am
DB55
Lol. True. Gmc is good with probowls. Not Playoffs. Not sbs. Gmc has to go
December 1st, 2017 at 10:03 am
@ATrain,
You don’t have any idea what McCoy does behind closed doors. You don’t know what he says to his teammates. A lot goes on that isn’t done for the public to see. When was the last time you saw Jameis rip a teammate through the media?
As always, the problem with this team isn’t GMC, Lavonte, Jameis, Grimes, Evans, etc. It’s the guys that can’t capitalize on the favorable matchups they receive as a result of those players. Do you really think it’s a coincidence that the games that McCoy plays well, so do the other D-Lineman? Think about it. There is no one player on a line that can dominate a game without help. That goes for Aaron Donald, Von Miller, or any other guy. The problem is, we have the worst D-Linemen around GMC (maybe the worst I’ve ever seen in the NFL). You can deny that and point to how many games he’s won (another ridiculous argument), but those are cold hard facts. There is no other Pro Bowl DT that has never played with another Pro Bowl D-Lineman in the NFL. As soon as Bennett was on the cusp, we got rid of him. If you don’t think that makes a difference, then you are helpless.
December 1st, 2017 at 10:05 am
A DT does not win football games. Period. He can help, but he is one guy amongst a ton of other players in the ultimate team sport. You couldn’t even carry on a conversation with a football coach if you brought up that ridiculous argument. They would just laugh and walk away.
December 1st, 2017 at 10:10 am
He’s good, not great, not a true game changer. He was sold as the best thing to ever happen to our defense, and our defense is still garbage so he’s going to take a lot of heat as he’s one of the leaders. He’s also often injured so I get it. This team has a lot bigger problems than GMC tho. Some people also like mean football players, and captain smiley is not one of those. People read that as meaning he doesn’t really care about winning. Maybe a few more pregame prayers will do it.
December 1st, 2017 at 10:12 am
When I here a player talk about Pro Bowls and stats as goals, that should be a major red flag right there…It’s time for this clown to move on…He’s been affected by fan feedback > that’s weak. Let him grow a set for the Browns or Colts or somebody else…2nd round pick is plenty…buh bye!
December 1st, 2017 at 10:14 am
Oh god. Someone mentioned Grimes. Grimes is overrated trash. Wins on 1 play and burnt the next. Mike smith I am with you. I would put grimes on jj either. Ryan smith was the better choice. 12 catches 253 2 tds could of been alot worse.
December 1st, 2017 at 10:17 am
@RealityCheck,
I agree with some of what you wrote. As a leader, you do get blamed for your team’s struggles. As for him being often injured, I dispute that. He’s been the most durable player at his position over the last 6 years. That’s not a small sample size. He has played through injuries most other players wouldn’t, but it seems as if you are criticizing him for that, which is silly. He plays a dangerous position in the most dangerous sport. Injuries can and will happen to everyone.
December 1st, 2017 at 10:18 am
McCoy isn’t the problem with this team. He sure as sh$t ain’t the solution either.
December 1st, 2017 at 10:18 am
“Oh god. Someone mentioned Grimes. Grimes is overrated trash. Wins on 1 play and burnt the next. Mike smith I am with you. I would put grimes on jj either. Ryan smith was the better choice. 12 catches 253 2 tds could of been alot worse.”
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I just want to remind anyone who also hates GMC that this is the guy you agree with on GMC. I rest my case.
December 1st, 2017 at 10:24 am
“McCoy isn’t the problem with this team. He sure as sh$t ain’t the solution either.”
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You are absolutely right. The solution is to bring in players around him that can also rush the passer. The solution is to bring in lineman to block for our first franchise QB. The solution is to stop giving the ball to Doug Martin. The solution is to coach better.
How can you blame McCoy when he is the only player that is producing? Makes no sense to me. Why are people not able to understand that we are wasting his career by having trash around him. GMC isn’t making Will Gholston have double digit sacks. He’s not making Robert Ayers into Simeon Rice. The last D-Lineman we drafted in the first round was 6 years ago (and we got rid of him because he was always hurt)! That’s criminal. That’s not on McCoy.
December 1st, 2017 at 10:26 am
Ill be fair. As he is sack master and leads the league is sacks. He also leads the league in dental mouth gum width and depth and also leads in Chic-let size front teeth.
December 1st, 2017 at 10:26 am
Hawaii Buc, you are so wrong the absolute truth is that football games are won and lsot in teh trenches and our “franchise player” does not win and he plays in the trenches, so yes a top flight DT allegedly is supposed to be a key point of attack to stopping an offense and since he has been here the team has been losing. There has been a ton pf mismanagement to go along with that, but why hasn’t mccoy ever said, “Please trade me, I want to be on a winner!!!!” never, because he does not care…..then you have licht who has no vision for this team, there is no identity to this team except jameis licking his fingers and GMC lickin the ice cream, time to blow the team up and start fresh trade away GMC, LVD, keep kown and beckwith heck even swaggy plays every week
December 1st, 2017 at 10:32 am
@Dusthty Rhothdes,
Yes, he is a key point. However, he can’t do it by himself. There are 5 offensive lineman, correct? We typically rush 4, correct? So one person will normally get doubled, correct? Well, we make it so easy on other teams because there is no doubt who they are going to double. You can see us moving around McCoy pre-snap, and you can see the offensive lineman point to him and adjust. Can it be more obvious? Any one player can be eliminated if the guys around him aren’t doing their job.
And let me get this straight, he’s a loser because he’s never asked to be traded? LMAO. That’s almost as funny as lamarcus saying Ryan Smith is better than Brent Grimes. Where do you guys come up with this material? Fantastic stuff. Maybe he loves this team and believes we can turn it around. Every year we as fans think we will be turning it around, why shouldn’t the players? You think Jameis will ask to be traded? Is he a loser too? I don’t recall Ronde asking to be traded when it was clear we were going nowhere. Why don’t you become a fan of another team that you know will be a winner? Does that mean you don’t care about winning? What a stupid, yet hilarious, argument. You guys are really grasping at straws here.
December 1st, 2017 at 10:37 am
You guys can argue and repeat the same stupid stuff over and over again. It doesn’t matter. Everyone with half a brain knows McCoy is a stud DT. Our coaches know it, opposing coaches know it, our players know it, opposing players know it, our front office knows it, opposing front offices know it, and pretty much everyone else except a few idiots with zero football experience know it. I’m sorry, I’m just not taking the advice of some losers with nothing but a keyboard over the experts who do this for a living.
December 1st, 2017 at 10:37 am
Do you guys remember a couple years back on TNF we were playing the Rams? We had the ball at center-field, it was 4&1 with Tampa driving. Do you remember what Aaron Donald did? He literally threw no wait chucked Logan mankins out the way with his left arm and clotheslined Doug Martin with his right arm about 4 yards behind the LOS.
Don’t let anyone tell you DTs don’t win games. Anyone who believes that may literally be missing his brain.
Probably the same idiots who said Barron was a bust, yet he’s one of the best def players in the league.
Just do yourselves a favor and ignore any idiot TB media (excluding joe) but ESPECIALLY the moron on the radio. All bark no bite just like his butt buddy gmc.
December 1st, 2017 at 10:40 am
He’s really good. If he had ANY help whatsoever, he’d be great.
December 1st, 2017 at 10:45 am
Lamarcus, hilarious. Bravo good sir.
December 1st, 2017 at 10:46 am
@Hawaiian- Good luck trying to rationalize this one!
Apparently a DT is expected to play LB, DB, S, and DE, and lead while making personnel decisions, coaching changes, and play offense.
But, if you have a bad attitude (Ayers, Gholston, Baker) it’s OK to underachieve without the stats!
Dusthty is 100% spot on, you win in the trenches. While we’re bangin’ on the best DT on the roster, ask the question why we haven’t invested in the trenches on this side of the ball.
Bucs-FAN-man= Fan (man!) of the Bucs= Fan of GMC, a Buc! So here’s a preemptive shot across the bow: YES, I am a FAN!
December 1st, 2017 at 10:48 am
Let’s see Bennett leaves and make PO virtually every year. Clayborn leaves makes the Super Bowl. Mike Johnson was in the PO virtually every year before he met gmc.
Every single person who’s played next to McCoy has left and been to the playoffs.
You guys can’t possibly be that stupid, can you? Maybe you have a degenerative brain Disease or something. Or maybe you were just born and raise in Florida.
December 1st, 2017 at 10:49 am
Hawaii
Ur accusing ppl of hating gmc. Nobody on here said the word “hate” gmc is getting critizism and ur butt hurt. Sad man. Dt can win games. Just like a punter ,kicker,cb,qb,lt etc. U continue to give gmc a pass is the problem. As soon as gmc has a decent ga me he is crowned. When gmc is garbage yall make excuses that he doesn’t have help. I’m not buying the bs
December 1st, 2017 at 10:51 am
If I recall correctly even George Johnson had 8 sacks and a P.O. birth the year before signing with TB. Got next to McCoy and had 1 sack in like 3 years.
December 1st, 2017 at 10:53 am
Bottom line GMC has done ZERO in his time here to have the bucs become a winning franchise and the proof is in the record, but again if he wanted to win and was about winning he could have demanded a trade to a winning franchise and he has not, he is satisfied with 7-9, 6-10 and cashing checks
December 1st, 2017 at 10:55 am
@DB55,
Bennett was a raw, undrafted player who got better each year. We all saw it. FYI, Bennett and McCoy are the best of friends. Bennett didn’t want to leave. Then because Dominik and/or Schiano didn’t trust his shoulder, they got rid of him. We all knew where he was headed. Clayborn was always hurt in Tampa. Was that McCoy’s fault? He also was hurt and didn’t play in the Super Bowl, but nice revisionist history. Johnson never wanted to be here. He’s a scrub who had one miraculous good year. Even if I give you those 3 guys (which is ridiculous), name me some more. How did Albert Haynsworth do after the Bucs? How about Da’Quan Bowers? I bet Darryl Tapp is going to turn a team around when he gets signed. Your rationale is just plain silly, and you know it.
December 1st, 2017 at 10:56 am
I must admit though that smile is beautiful.
December 1st, 2017 at 10:56 am
“Bottom line GMC has done ZERO in his time here to have the bucs become a winning franchise and the proof is in the record, but again if he wanted to win and was about winning he could have demanded a trade to a winning franchise and he has not, he is satisfied with 7-9, 6-10 and cashing checks”
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All you just did was repeat yourself, and ignore all the things I said. That is being ignorant in it’s purest sense.
December 1st, 2017 at 10:59 am
I think the main issue with GMC is the ‘C’ on his chest. I LOVE him as a person and as one of our best defensive players – people who want to run him out of town are crazy – but I just don’t think he should be a captain. GMC is a great leader of men but not “football” men, and there’s no shame in that – there have been great NFL players that aren’t captains and that’s okay. Football men are a different breed, and there’s a particular man’s man attitude that has to keep the team in check (i.e. Hardy Nickerson, Derrick Brooks, etc.). Often overlooked is the emotional accountability that a captain has to manage. GMC appears to be too playful before games and during practice. Just because he can flip the switch from grab-butt to eye of the tiger doesn’t mean that other players can. Leading up to a game, young players watch leaders to see how to prepare – both physically and mentally. If the leaders are joking and playing grab-butt, then it’s okay for them to follow suit – they let their guard down and relax. Gone is the killer mentality. I think that’s a big reason why we start out so flat time and time again.
I remember when Hardy Nickerson first joined the team, he got into fist fights with our top guys in the locker room when they didn’t give it their all. Hardware changed the culture of the team! Then Brooks came along and he was called “The Don” because of how he kept the locker room in check, and he did it for 10+ years – his mantra was “defend every blade of grass” and you could tell the whole team played that way under his watch and leadership! GMC has captained too many crappy, give-up, comfortable with losing, don’t trust the coaches, losing seasons. It’s not just about effort, toughness, talent, production, and availability – GMC has all of these as all leaders do, but he’s missing the last ingredient: accountability, especially emotional.
All I’m saying is that GMC is a great player that I think gets all this hate because of the ‘C’ on his chest. He reminds me of Simeon Rice – an absolute stud of a player but too playful and aloof to be a captain. Maybe one of Hardy’s greatest gifts as a leader was to pass the torch to Brooks once he noticed that it was his time. It’s time for GMC to hand over the keys to Kwon or someone else. I know Kwon already has a ‘C’ on his chest, but he should be the only captain on defense. He’s not the perfect captain either (i.e. best ability is availability), but he’s the best we’ve got right now.
December 1st, 2017 at 11:01 am
So to sum up the reasons why GMC isn’t any good:
1. He hasn’t led his team to victories, even though he’s never played with another Pro bowler on the line.
2. He doesn’t care about winning
3. He smiles too much
4. He has played alongside other guys who have been on playoff teams, which means he kept those players from being good in Tampa
5. He doesn’t have a signature game-changing moment. The two times he beat Atlanta on the last plays of the game don’t count, nor does any other time he’s had a sack on the last possession of a game. How many times has he made a strip sack, recovered the ball, ran it back 99 yards, and then spit in his opponents face after the game?
December 1st, 2017 at 11:02 am
If McCoy wasn’t in the spotlight all the time I don’t think you’d see the hate at all.
The problem is he has been the “leader” since he’s been here and hasn’t lead anyone anywhere. He hasn’t made anyone around him better at any point. He hasn’t elevated the play of any other D-lineman at any point – as evidenced by who has come and gone and how they have played. He hasn’t elevated the play of the defense period. The defense has sucked a4ss every year he’s been here.
And when we get an insight into his mindset / or his pre game speeches – it’s typically horrifying. Dude puts out an image that says he cares about his own stats and glory / what people think of him way more than he does winning. He hated his rookie year which was the most wins he’s been a part of – which is pretty damn disturbing. He’s been part of a lot of bad locker rooms that lacked leaders / toughness/ attitude – all while doing the interviews and taking on the role of leader. So who else are we supposed to point at when we talk about lack of leadership and a lack of toughness when it comes to the players?
He’s a disruptive D-tackle with one of the best firs steps in the league; but this hasn’t ever translated into a D-line that gets consistent pressure for whatever reason.
I think culturally we need to move on from him – and would love to get a 2nd and 3rd round pick to do so lol
December 1st, 2017 at 11:02 am
I may be mistaken but I believe McCoy’s 21 QB hits leads the NFL. It certainly leads all DT’s. Not only that but according to the geeks at Pro Football Focus they have Gerald McCoy as the 3rd best DT in the NFL. He will be a Hall of Famer one day.
But, according to the mouth-breathers around here he does “nothing” in games and he “sucks”.
December 1st, 2017 at 11:03 am
You guys have sucked me in again. I’m out. Have a good day gentlemen!
December 1st, 2017 at 11:07 am
Ice Cream McIceCream
December 1st, 2017 at 11:12 am
He didn’t even want the team to draft donald. Gmc said he rather be benched if the bucs drafted donald. REALLY? gmc is garbage
December 1st, 2017 at 11:14 am
George Johnson? Did he play more than 3 games ? Gimme a break Db, thats a lame argument. How many games did he start in 3 years here .Answer:5
And he had 6 sacks in Detroit before his second stint here.
December 1st, 2017 at 11:20 am
@DB55…and soft ice cream like the Dairy Queen stuff…Can’t wait till this guy goes to the Pro Bowl for someone else while the Bucs hoist a Lombardi 🙂
December 1st, 2017 at 11:25 am
“McCoy is one of the few reasons the Bucs are relevant in the league! ”
lol the Bucs are relevant? We’ve been the equivalent of the Cleveland Browns since he’s been here.
December 1st, 2017 at 11:27 am
“We had the ball at center field”. Ya right behind our second baseman.
December 1st, 2017 at 11:28 am
Bob
Look at that! 16 games and 6 sacks then he gets next to geraldini and get hurt and is completely unproductive. The curse of geraldini McIceCream is REAL! Hahaha
I know it a weak argument I’m just messing with num nuts up there.
December 1st, 2017 at 11:29 am
DBS
Ha! Mid-field. Same chit.
December 1st, 2017 at 11:32 am
Hall of Fame for GMC… i just spit up my ice cream at the publix cash check station
December 1st, 2017 at 12:04 pm
McCoy will make the Bucs Ring of Honor….I have no doubt. That being said, the perception on McCoy is his dominance never led to any level of winning. On top of that his personality is the polar opposite of a Hall of Famer…Warren Sapp….who was a pillar on one of the most dominant defenses in NFL history. I think he’s a very talented athlete who’s career will be viewed as less due to the circumstances/teams he was stuck on.
December 1st, 2017 at 12:15 pm
If there is one word to describe our defense since McCoy has been here – it is “soft”
If there is one way to describe the attitude of Gerald Mccoy in every press clipping or pre game speech I’ve ever seen – it is “soft”
It’s not really fair but it is what it is. I want a change. We’ve been talking about needing a culture change ever since he’s been on the team. So make the change
Personally his attitude has just always rubbed me the wrong way. He has seemed way too complacent over the years in general with things being as they are. At least with guys like Winston / Kwon / Evans you know they f*cking HATE losing.
I honestly don’t know if McCoy gives a sh1t; because he sure as hell doesn’t really show it; which is insane if you are a “leader”
December 1st, 2017 at 12:29 pm
Get him one decent defensive end and another one that can at least be an average pass rusher… this whole defense would be better. No, McCoy is not Superman but the horrible bums that have been run out next to him over his career is a disgrace. Early on it was not for a lack of trying. I hated the Adrian Clayborn selection, he was a slow RDE only that was moderately productive as a college senior, chosen over an extremely productive Cameron Jordan, who was very productive, went to the Senior Bowl and tore it up all week, and I understand the DaQuan pick. If he was healthy, he was a homerun… but neither worked out. I actually supported the Michael Johnson signing. He was the prototype athlete for RDE. Little did anybody know that he would sign and quit on us. Robert Ayers? He was an average DE his entire career until he logged 9 sacks in his career year with the Giants…. bad idea.
Regardless of our past mistakes at DE… we have to keep trying. Select one early every couple years and a developmental one late in almost every draft. You build a good defense from the DL on back… not the way Dominik and Schiano tried to do it… by buying CBs and safeties that can’t make a difference when you can’t rush the passer. You get to the QB. It’s simple. Look at the Vikings, Jaguars, and Rams… their DBs aren’t the best in the league… but their D-lines are ferocious and they are a force against the pass. We’re a joke because we have McCoy and the defensive line version of EJ, LaQuan, and Danny on the field next to him.
December 1st, 2017 at 12:38 pm
Lamarcus Says
“Ur accusing ppl of hating gmc. Nobody on here said the word “hate” gmc is getting critizism and ur butt hurt.”
Um, excuse me, but haters usually do not use the word ‘hate’.
Take TMax for example. GMC could get 15 sacks per season and TMax would still hate on him.
December 1st, 2017 at 12:51 pm
Hawaiian how many years did you play in the NFL?
You know so much because?
Beckles who was a Pro Player said GMC isgarage?
You know more than Him?
Wow and we are stupid
December 1st, 2017 at 1:07 pm
I swear we have some of the stupidest fans in the NFL smh. Some of you act like McCoy has ripped this team apart or badmouthed players and coaches, the man has been loyal to us since day 1 and said he loves Tampa and wants to stay here his whole career. I just don’t get it. Any of you idiots bashing McCoy should just slap yourselves with a brick.
December 1st, 2017 at 1:24 pm
@mikep813…Yeah, why wouldn’t he want to stay in Tampa. He gets called a star, makes lots of money and has ZERO accountability when it comes to winning. He’d have a hard time on some other team that is driven to win. Life’s easy in Tampa. TRADE time! he’s done here…The face of the LOSING culture..
December 1st, 2017 at 1:24 pm
Mike
Slapped my self w a brick and I still think gmc is garbage.
December 1st, 2017 at 1:37 pm
Lamarcus
Keep trying until you lose vision.
December 1st, 2017 at 1:39 pm
@C eh N eh D eh
Where do you get these ridiculous claims and accusations of him having zero accountability and losing culture? Jesus Christ you’re just as bad as these feminists
December 1st, 2017 at 2:04 pm
LAMARcus
You Win best poster on drugs award
Gmc and grimes are garbage.
And Jameis is a hall of famer.
Please save that last brain cell man. I am dying laughing
December 1st, 2017 at 2:12 pm
We know he’s ice cream but what flavor?
1. Butter pecan
2. Chocolate Swirl
3. Tutti frutti
4. Sweet Maple Honey
5. Rainbow sprinkles
December 1st, 2017 at 2:13 pm
I’m voting Tutti frutti with rainbow sprinkles.
December 1st, 2017 at 2:57 pm
Bird
U don’t need drugs to realize Grimes and gmc are whack. Jw is the best damn thing happening here on the bucs.
December 1st, 2017 at 4:13 pm
Lamarcus
Take GMC and Grimes off of the Bucs defense and I guarantee the defense surrenders 40 PPG easily.
December 1st, 2017 at 4:24 pm
My problem with GMC isn’t so much his play. It’s his leadership. He’s a soyboy. Soyboys only make good leaders at fashion shows!!
Say what you will about eating Ws, but that was the best pregame hype in the world compared to GMCs lethargic pregame speech he made last year in that prime time game for all the world to see!!
If his play was exactly the same but without being captain or all the interviews and all the other stuff leaders do that he’s terrible at, I would totally happy with him and his ice cream complex.
December 1st, 2017 at 6:17 pm
Focking Texans are Stupid TOO. Slouch JJ Watt hasn’t won them ANy games. They should cut his sorry butt.
December 1st, 2017 at 7:22 pm
Mike
We are the worst defense with gmc and grimes on the team already. That’s my point.
December 1st, 2017 at 7:31 pm
Trade McCoy for draft picks, he’s a great DT, but our pass rush stinks
December 1st, 2017 at 8:20 pm
GMC (maybe his best year)
Lavonte David (maybe his best year)
Kwon Alexander (solid if not strong)
Kendell Beckwith (solid if not strong)
Brent Grimes (ageless wonder)
Teams would kill to have those five guys on their roster, starting for their defense. Yet the Bucs are rock bottom in pass defense and sacks.
Did someone say “coaching?”
December 1st, 2017 at 9:03 pm
Anyone watching stanford/usc? That Stanford DT/DE Harrison Phillips looks pretty good.
December 2nd, 2017 at 4:47 am
Saying that GMC dies not care about winning is just nonsense. He still is our best player and I just hope we can find some more quality players so he can win the Super Bowl while he is still in his prime. 5 x consecutive Pro Bowls and he was also ranked 52nd on the NFL Top 100 Players of 2017 which are both huge accomplishment and more so the way he plays the game. He goes all out on every play and every year comes into camp in better shape than most all the players on this team. The Bucs need to draft elite players to surround GMC with. Lets hope it all starts by drafting DE Bradley Chubb of North Carolina State. Chubb passed former No. 1 overall pick Mario Williams on the school’s all-time sack list. His combination of power, explosiveness, technique and instincts are all necessary to become elite at the next level. Chubb also plays with a nasty mean streak which is just what the Bucs are looking for. Chubb has been the most dominant defender in college football this season, and is one of the most complete prospects in the entire class.