Did Glennon Earn A Stronger Offer?
November 6th, 2016
Joe must give it up to Mike Glennon for his production Thursday.
The Falcons blitzed him in garbage time, ran stunts and the former “quarterback of the future” was literally perfect after not throwing a regular season pass since 2014.
The box score says Glennon was 10-for-11 with a touchdown throw. That one incompletion? An undisputed drop by Peyton Barber.
Glennon’s job as a professional backup is to be ready, and he was flawless. He was commanding, prepared and accurate.
Joe’s been told that the Bucs have talked to Glennon about signing a contract extension to be the long-term backup to America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston. Word on the street is Glennon said he’d rather test the free-agent market after the season ends. Glennon’s rookie contract expires in March.
Joe thinks Glennon might have earned himself a fresh offer from the Bucs.
It should be clear to management that Jameis’ style of play makes him more likely than most to suffer a significant injury. Combine that with Jameis taking more hits than any other QB since he entered the NFL, and Dirk Koetter’s disinterest in sitting Jameis unless he can’t walk, and you’ve got a real reason to throw excellent backup money at Glennon right now.
Glennon, 26, is a smart dude with a Master’s degree, and he’s got a new baby and lives in Tampa.
Soaking in $12 million+ to backup Jameis for a few years is a comfortable lottery ticket worth cashing — and offering.
November 6th, 2016 at 2:24 pm
He did exactly what he is paid to do nothing special. He’s poor preseason tape will top an irrelevant drive against a defense in full prevent mode. There will be no compensatory pick. He will sign a nice deal but will be out of league in two years
Absolutely not full prevent mode. Maybe half the snaps.–Joe
November 6th, 2016 at 2:25 pm
He’ll be starting next year somewhere. He’d be an idiot to stay with this clown show.
November 6th, 2016 at 2:27 pm
They were actually blitzing him, it was NOT a prevent defense.
November 6th, 2016 at 2:28 pm
He did a fine job and helped make it look like the Buc’s didn’t lose as badly as they did and it was pretty dang bad still. It is a very small sample size to draw any conclusions IMO.
November 6th, 2016 at 2:34 pm
Go compare Jameis and Glennon by the stats. They’re pretty similar. Not even implying that Glennon is better, but it’s interesting to look at considering how awful some people here seem to think he is.
November 6th, 2016 at 2:47 pm
He did look sharp. It’s not glennon mob time or anything, but I would like to see Glennon play a game with Koetter calling plays. Would be interesting I think.
November 6th, 2016 at 2:51 pm
Go get that money Mike! If Brock Assweiler can get $18mil/year Glennon can surely get $8-10mil
November 6th, 2016 at 2:55 pm
I don’t understand the logic of carrying 3 QBs on this roster. Glennon should have play some last season, especially when we were out of playoff contention. But Koetter was trying to get Jameis to 4,000 passing yards.
November 6th, 2016 at 2:57 pm
On a side note… Eli Apple sucks.
Still very optimistic about Hargreaves, even after a couple tough games.
Keep your head up kid!
November 6th, 2016 at 3:05 pm
That type of performance would have been handy before the trade deadline…
November 6th, 2016 at 3:19 pm
What would his numbers look like if he played that last two years ?
I bet they would be better. Not taking anything way from 3 but just saying
November 6th, 2016 at 3:24 pm
Can’t judge him by just that one quarter, he was fresh, hasn’t thrown a pass since preseason. Glennon isn’t a starter product, he has proven that he doesn’t have what it takes to carry a team 16 or more games in a season. I like him as a back up for a fair price otherwise don’t let the door hit you.
November 6th, 2016 at 3:43 pm
He was awesome at that drive..period..and a TD to boot..go for the money Mike!!! Go get the money!!!
November 6th, 2016 at 3:44 pm
LOL…
Was any one of Glennon’s throws longer than 5-7 yards in the air?
November 6th, 2016 at 3:57 pm
I often wonder if those old school sportswriters were still covering the Bucs, what would they be writing about. Concerning this crap that we witness year after year. Tom McEwen of the Tampa Tribune and Patrick Zier of the Lakeland Ledger. This is worst than the early years, when we were 2-26 during our first two seasons. But during our 4th season, we won the division and went to the NFC Championship game. It has been 9 seasons, since we been to the playoffs, and 14 years since we won a playoff game. SMH
November 6th, 2016 at 3:57 pm
They should have kept Glennon as the starter and used the early picks to build a team around him. Look at Miami. They have stuck by Ryan T and built around him and it’s starting to pay off. Glad Winston only has a four year deal
November 6th, 2016 at 3:58 pm
We need a capable, competent backup QB, simply because Jameis will get injured and be out (knee, concussion, etc.). Keep Glennon.
November 6th, 2016 at 4:02 pm
Winston misses as many as he hits on 5-7 yard passes, so what difference does that make? And let’s not mention his long throws.
November 6th, 2016 at 4:06 pm
Very good article Joe, Fair and unbiased unlike TMax, who acts like Glennon stole his gf in high school. He has a strong arm, he was…….what??? Actually reading the blitzes and completing passes. You don’t always have to seven step drop and heave it into triple coverage . I know that’s impressive to you, but what does it get? Ints and incompletions.
November 6th, 2016 at 4:17 pm
“I wanted to be drafted by the tampa bay bucs and play in front of poster Kobe Faker and with my brother Russell Shepard”
Sterling shepard
39th pick- No-where Spence
40th pick- Sterling Shepard
November 6th, 2016 at 4:36 pm
I think he needs to be given an opportunity to win THIS starting job. This just in Winston is not accurate and in next to last in the NFL in completion %. Give it up guys, JW just not very good. Heres’ the thing, this could be the Steve Young thing all over again. We pick the wrong QB. Don’t say it can’t happen with this regime, it already did. They picked Winston over Mariotta.
November 6th, 2016 at 4:58 pm
I love Koetter, but he is a moron for leaving Jameis in during garbage time like he does.
Simple as muthafukin that.
November 6th, 2016 at 5:00 pm
Koeter is right to leave him in. We have to figure out if Winston can play in the NFL or not.
November 6th, 2016 at 5:02 pm
If Winston was was having the game Big Ben was right now against a good defense, most of y’all would be ripping him without looking at other factors like the Bucs only having 1 actual receiver threat. I don’t see steelers fans calling calling a new quarter.
Winston was unfairly criticized against the Broncos and Cardnals, look at other quarterabcks stats against those teams. Winston will have plently of good games this season, but all qbs have bad games. Other fan bases deal with it with patience, not Bucs fans.
November 6th, 2016 at 5:18 pm
Tbbuc- Ben’s accuracy not an issue, Winston’s is. Please don’t compare JW to Big Ben. I live in Pittsburgh and attend almost all Steeler’s games. Ben and Jamies are not in the same universe.
November 6th, 2016 at 5:38 pm
The one thing that stands out to me as far as Glennon’s stats is the talent he had around him during the short stint he started. You’d be a fool to say Jameis did’t have a star wide reciever and running back who btw almost had the rushing title last year. If you are a true Bucs fan you want the best QB starting not the one who is the best cheerleader. Don’t give me the leadership bs, winning is what players follow not good pregame and halftime speeches.
The guy hasn’t started since 14′ and easily looked sharper with way less time to play with ME. He actually didn’t even have ME playing as he distributed the ball to multiple players. No ME = he used all the garbage receivers that Winston used as excuses for not making plays. Just imagine if he had the same weapons Jameis had the luxury of playing with…. with his accuracy and refusal to lock on one guy we might have an unpredictable offense. I say give the man a chance, what else do we got to lose. The season is already over and if he’s as bad as some of you FSU cats say he is we should get a top three draft pick in return. Everyone is wondering and coming down hard on Koetter for leaving Winston in games when out of reach. The guy isn’t stupid at all and has been around good teams before to know what happens if things continue as they are. Has anyone besides me thought that if Koetter wanted Glennon to play than what better way to get him in and not get bashed for sitting the #1 pick than to ensure he gets injured and let the guy who is tailor made to play for this offense get his chance. Let’s not forget he did’t pick Winston, Licht & Lovie did. Remember he wants to keep his job and right now Winston isn’t helping him out. Why else would he risk his so called franchise QB? Please explain what logical reason he would leave him in because I can’t find one except for the reasons I provided. Maybe he knows the illustrious history, I mean failure of FSU quarterbacks like everyone else does. Facts are facts and sometimes the best indicator of the future is history. To be clear that there is no collegiate bias here, I went to Fire academy for my carrer so I have no favorite college team, I’m sure some are thinking I’m a Gator or Hurricane fan but I’m just a fan of the Buc’s, Lightning, and Rays. Go Tampa!
November 6th, 2016 at 5:42 pm
Guess I’m not allowed to make comments about America’s Joke. Tried three times and still won’t post. Nice one Joe!!
November 6th, 2016 at 5:47 pm
BucNut2- Well Big Ben has also had more than a decade in the NFL to devolop. Winston would be a senior if he stayed in college. Based of his early career, yes they are very comparable.
November 6th, 2016 at 6:03 pm
Bucnut2
Ummmm what has Mariota done this year?? I can tell you haven’t seen him play besides that Jacksonville game.
November 6th, 2016 at 6:06 pm
“It should be clear to management”
I get the article, but this is where you lost me Joe.
November 6th, 2016 at 6:08 pm
Bucnut has a Jameis obsession.
It’s actually worse than me.
I’m sure he prays to God every night before bed for Jameis to fail. I’m positive of it. Just so you know what kind of fool you’re dealing with.
November 6th, 2016 at 6:11 pm
Should start glennon every game until smith is gone as our dc. Just a waste to put winston out there when you already know we are going to give up 40 plus poi ts on defense
November 6th, 2016 at 6:11 pm
I like Mike…..and this may sound crazy but I think we should make him our best offer….give him a couple of days to decide….if he refuses cut him and save a roster spot.
This is the time where we develop future players….and if he’s gone….might as well go with Griffin now.
November 6th, 2016 at 6:16 pm
Tbbf,
👍👍
November 6th, 2016 at 6:17 pm
All- knock me all you want the fact is that JW is at best a work in progress. At worst, on his way to being a bust. 87- you are correct, I am obsessed, there were a lot of accuracy red flags in college. Bottom line- at this point he is a marginal NFL QB, whose career start looks more like Tannyhill than Rothlisberger. Guys- please take off your rose colored glasses and stop making excuses for him. At this point, he is not very good.
November 6th, 2016 at 6:23 pm
And no, I don’t want JW to fail, I desperately want him to succeed. Tb- you are wrong, go look at Big Ben’s early game film. And FSU whoever you are, I;ve seen all but one Tiatns game this year. It’s called NFL Sunday ticket. You should try it. It is becoming VERY evident who on this site watches little NFL football outside of the Bucs. Those that have a broader perspective are questioning a lot about this franchise including Winston. Those stuck in their own little bubble are letting their biases guide their comments. Please guys, I urge you, educate yourselves and you’ll stop posting this mindless dribble
November 6th, 2016 at 6:25 pm
Bucnut 2
Naw you’re talking like mariota is obviously the better qb. You’re even going as far to bring up Steve young. So I want you to show me why you think Marcus is clearly the better qb.
November 6th, 2016 at 6:30 pm
Look at QB rating MM 13th in the NFL, JW 25. Go watch some Titans games, MM does not miss wide open receivers the way winston does. His misses are much closer than JW. In addition, there is no Mike Evans or even close on the Titans. Mariotta is clearly playing better. Don’t believe me? See Pat Kirwan.
November 6th, 2016 at 6:38 pm
JW is a great leader, just not a good passer
November 6th, 2016 at 6:42 pm
Even though it’s somewhat irrelevant, I’ll offer an opinion on Winston vs Mariota.
As far as I’m concerned the stats at this point make little difference…..they have to be measured in the long run as to what they eventually contribute to their teams. Winston is a tremendous leader and the Bucs dearly need that. He has a completely different set of coaches, players and has played different teams. I believe some of the defenses we have faced are tougher than Tenn’s.
It’s my opinion that both are doing well and both will be very good NFL quarterbacks and neither team’s fans would trade for the other.
November 6th, 2016 at 6:44 pm
TBBF- I disagree. I would trade MM- for JW tomorrow and be VERY happy to get a guy with better skills
November 6th, 2016 at 6:46 pm
Bucnut 2
Ummmm I actually seen mariota choke away leads playing it safe because he won’t make a throw when he has a receiver open scared to make a mistake(colts game in particular). He ended up getting sacked, fumbled and defense scooped and scored late in the game. You think the Bucs ran the ball vs panthers and 49ers. You should see the titans run the ball non stop to try and protect hiim from going out and have to carry the team. You must haven’t watched a titans game.
November 6th, 2016 at 6:48 pm
iamkingsu…they run the HELL out of the ball!
November 6th, 2016 at 6:51 pm
king whatever. I have seen every titans game but one. You don’t think the Bucs are now playing safe with Winston. The first four games were a glimpse into unshackled Jamies. The Bucs finally wised up, Winston cannot carry ANY team and neither can MM. The point is right now MM is playing better, takes less sacks and does fewer stupid things than Winston does. This is not college anymore. The fans and JW need to realize that.
November 6th, 2016 at 6:57 pm
Mariota plays within a 10 yard field, that style of play isn’t effective in the NFL. Bucnut2 as you make a case for MM he just threw a horrendus pick.
November 6th, 2016 at 7:00 pm
SOOO it’s nor effective??? Why is his QB rating better than Winston’s? and if our style is effective why is our offense struggling so much?
November 6th, 2016 at 7:03 pm
Less sacks?? Even going back to college he was sacked waaaaaay more than JW on top of that he’s by far the superior athlete. Now he’s playing behind by far the superior oline. Which there is only one logical conclusion he doesn’t know what he’s looking at.
November 6th, 2016 at 7:05 pm
Bucnut2 Says:
November 6th, 2016 at 6:44 pm
TBBF- I disagree. I would trade MM- for JW tomorrow and be VERY happy to get a guy with better skills
You clearly have been stricken with Quarterback Envy……this is a disease only cured by switching teams. Enjoy being a Titan fan.
November 6th, 2016 at 7:17 pm
TBBF- not. I have been a bucs fan for 40 years, we just have the wrong QB
November 6th, 2016 at 7:19 pm
King- you make no sense. If you want to dialogue with me please take off your FSU colored glasses. NO OBJECTIVE person would say JW is doing well.
November 6th, 2016 at 7:21 pm
Hard to judge a QB when he has only ONE legitimate NFL receiver, whether WR. slot, TE or RB.
At least VJax brought some respect from DC’s and got doubled along with Evans.
Now DC’s can TRIPLE Evans…and have…and have few worries about the other eligible receivers, especially since Winston zero’s in on Evans.
Until a running game can be established and play-action is again a threat, expect more dysfunctional offense.
November 6th, 2016 at 7:24 pm
Cobra…exactly. This team needs lot’s of help and ain’t no Mariota, Jameis Winston, or Tom Brady going to make a lick of difference.
As soon as Bucnut realizes that, he might drop his relentless obsession with Winston or Mariota for that matter. I doubt it though.
November 6th, 2016 at 7:26 pm
Jason Licht has completely wasted time when it comes to receiver depth, I don’t want to see another story at receiver, no more walk ons or D3 players. Get some of those Bama receivers and no more dontee dyes or Krauses.
November 6th, 2016 at 7:27 pm
Oh and Andrew Luck looks like shyte today. Overthrown balls leading to INT’s. Pretty sure there isn’t any Bucnut’s in the Colts fan base that would say get rid of him cause he’s playing like shyte.
Not that I care.
How come I don’t care? Cause he’s not a fuking Buc, just like Mariota.
November 6th, 2016 at 7:31 pm
Titans have a completely superior OL, defense, RBs, receiving core (our 2-5 would not be on their roster). Couple that with a much easier schedule. Winston has still thrown for more tds in less games.
November 6th, 2016 at 7:32 pm
“Bucnut2 as you make a case for MM he just threw a horrendus pick.”
Tbbucs3…come on dude…he doesn’t watch Mariota.
November 6th, 2016 at 7:39 pm
All- please watch teams other than the Bucs and MAYBE you will get it. However, I asm sure that some of you will not. Luck had great success right away as did Rothsliberger Manning, Brady etc… At this point, JW is mediocre at best. I am growing tired of explaining this to you homers. Stop defending a so- so player and call it what it is.
November 6th, 2016 at 7:41 pm
Why is Tampa so fascinated with buc players that can’t start for any other team? We have to be the only fanbase in the league listening to media talking about a perennial backup qb about to leave in free agency. So we’re going to pay more money for him coming in at garbage time and completing short passes? This team has way more to worry about than Who the backup qb will be next year.
November 6th, 2016 at 7:42 pm
Cobra- by your standard, Mariotta has NO legitimate NFL receivers. You are making my homer point. No one on this site watches or listens to NFL voices outside of Tampa.
November 6th, 2016 at 7:45 pm
Good thing Uncle Lovie signed the great Trash McCown to big dollars effectively benching Glennon who came back to win one of the two victories in the inaugural year of the great incompetence known as the Lovie Smith era.
Get Koetter some fkn talent to work with.
Good luck Mike Glennon
November 6th, 2016 at 7:49 pm
Glennon should go to AZ Palmer can’t have that much left. He could go on to have a better career than Winston if this franchise can’t build a team around him
November 6th, 2016 at 8:15 pm
I can live with that as long as we finder a cheaper player for Verner, Jackson, McDonald and Conte. A fire needs be lit under Martin, McCoy and David. Great players get paid and spend their time with the same team. Good players that are paid to be great do not. If they were on my team, there would be signifacant pressure to perform better. 8 million sounds better than 12.
November 6th, 2016 at 8:19 pm
Glennon first read on every pass attempt was the checkdown. And that is who he threw it to. His checkdown. Let’s not act like glennon was making some tough throws. He was throwing checkdowns to wide open outlets against a soft defense.
I do wish that Winston would learn at least a little bit from glennon’s style. Winston rarely finds his checkdown, and always wants to push it down field, even when it’s covered. Taking the checkdown earlier in the play is sometimes the best play to make. This is something Winston needs to be able to figure out. I don’t want Winston to be captain checkdown (aka glennon), but figure out when to go to the checkdown and when to push it down field.
I know koetter and his coaching staff do not want to take the aggressive nature away from Winston, but they need to coach him to be the most success he can be. And sometimes that is being less aggressive, and just taking what the defense gives him.
November 6th, 2016 at 8:24 pm
Looks like MM lost another game
November 6th, 2016 at 8:35 pm
Aww man Mariota pick 6 to lose another game. He tried to make an NFL type throw.
November 6th, 2016 at 8:48 pm
Buc1987 Says:
November 6th, 2016 at 7:27 pm
Oh and Andrew Luck looks like shyte today. Overthrown balls leading to INT’s. Pretty sure there isn’t any Bucnut’s in the Colts fan base that would say get rid of him cause he’s playing like shyte.
Not that I care.
How come I don’t care? Cause he’s not a fuking Buc, just like Mariota.
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LOL! Andrew Luck just beat the Packers at Lambeau by making a couple of clutch throws in crunch time. What a dopey comment, 87RedSox.
November 6th, 2016 at 8:48 pm
We have one receiver?… These are the names of some of the receivers that we pass on in the last 3 drafts, 2nd round and beyond.2014- Marquise Lee, Jordan Matthews, Devante Adams, Allen Robinson, Jarvis Landry, Donte Moncrief, John Brown,Quincy Enunwa…2015- Devin Funchess, Dorial Green-Beckham, Tyler Lockett, Chris Conley, Sammie Coates, Ty Montgomery, Jamison Crowder,Justin Hardy,Rashard Greene, Stefon Diggs, J.J Nelson. 2016- Sterling Shepard, Michael Thomas, Tyler Boyd, Braxton Miller, Leonte Carroo, Chris Moore, Malcolm Mitchell, Pharoh Cooper, Tajae Sharpe, Jordan Payton, Jakeem Grant, Koby Listenbee, Mike Thomas. So I ask the question, why do we have one receiver?
November 6th, 2016 at 8:50 pm
I thought Joe always said having a backup like glennon was useless because if jameis goes down it would be best to lose games for a higher draft pick???
This year. Yes. Not necessarily in future years. –Joe
November 6th, 2016 at 8:50 pm
Are we still arguing about Winston, Glennon and Mariota..God help me.
November 6th, 2016 at 8:51 pm
Hey buncut did you just see your boy lose the game for his team with a fumble that was returned for a td then he followed up with a pick 6? BUT he is Soooooooo wonderful according to you. See us bucs fans can throw the same crap at you
November 6th, 2016 at 8:56 pm
So buncut I guess you would say Aaron Rodgers sucks cause he is struggling with no runningbacks and only one good receiver. If you couldn’t tell your eating quite a bit of crow today with the love of your life giving a winnable game away today and one of the greats struggling in the exact same situation as Jameis.
November 6th, 2016 at 8:57 pm
BFFL
Sometimes you gotta show proof just to discredit some ppl. I hate doing that on a Bucs site but if you tell a lie long enough it becomes the truth.
November 6th, 2016 at 9:04 pm
lightningbuc…irrelevant post by an irrelevant poster.
Clearly missed my point. He did look like shyte, had ups and downs throughout the game. The Colts win the game, because of him I guess according to you. He’s had horrendous GAMES this season. Not just this win at GB.
Nobody watches hockey…
Pretty sure you’re the only one here that cares that I’m a Red Sox fan and…
God Bless Joe Maddon… maybe he’ll land in Bahston someday.
November 6th, 2016 at 9:07 pm
Buncut talking all that crap where you at now when there’s is something to actually talk about instead of your wOrth less opinion ?
November 6th, 2016 at 9:23 pm
I could care less about Glennon. Even if we got a pick, it wouldn’t be a good one…and besides, I thought comp licks applied only to starters?
November 6th, 2016 at 9:23 pm
Buc1987 is correct on most , only thing I disagree with is #3 talking is not a good leader , Was I only one notice his feet were always in bad position and he throwing high to avoid the interception. Did anyone notice the high throw to EVANS ON SIDELINE , EVANS STRETCHED OUT MAKE GREAT CATCH BUT TOOK HUGE BLOW TO BODY WHILE GOING HIGH TO GET BALL . KEEP THROWING HIGH AND BUCS WILL LOSE RECEIVERS TO INJURY
November 6th, 2016 at 9:35 pm
Anyone else notice that Bucnut2 stopped posting once Mariota turned the ball over for the 3rd time today?
November 6th, 2016 at 9:36 pm
I don’t believe the Bucs are interested in winning, they can’t be. When Cleveland waived Taylor Gabriel, I thought the Bucs would pick him up and give him a look here. But instead of them picking him up, they pass on him and the Falcons picked him up and he’s been a key asset to their offense. But then they turn around and sign Donteea Dye, Cecil Shorts and Freedie Martino.
November 6th, 2016 at 9:41 pm
Glad to see Glennon get into the game for for mop up doodie detail.
November 6th, 2016 at 9:45 pm
Mike…#3 is a gamer and he’ll get right.
November 6th, 2016 at 9:54 pm
Don’t forget Marcus has one of the top blocking offensive lines and 2nd rushing game this year. When Jameis has a rushing game last year he was much better. Marcus fumbles a lot. Today vs SD he fumbled (returned for TD & threw a pick 6). He fumbles more then any QB, also fumbles 31 times in college. He’s not going to be anywhere as good as Jameis, as long as we get some players around him. Plus MM has missed games, Jameis is a much stronger player. You can think we picked the wrong QB, but it’s you that is WRONG. Jameis will always be compared with MM, but when it’s all said and done Jameis will be the better player. Go Bucs, Go Jameis!
November 6th, 2016 at 10:29 pm
I’ll give 87 credit for not making excuses. Tmax on the other hand…
. I still want to know your wager on Glennon being out of the league in 2 years?
November 6th, 2016 at 10:36 pm
And Jamies was much better last year in garbage time, as I said before. I’m not against JW3! Just tmax and the hypocrisy of others! Just name the last 3 QBs of our team before JW3…… Freeman, McCown, and Glennon. None were allowed excuses, yet JW3 is allowed the excuses! I call BS!
November 6th, 2016 at 10:51 pm
Most of the comments on this post are likely trolls or haters of the Bucs trying to stay stuff. Our TEAM is not good due to inexperience and coaching/aging issues. The QB is fine and doing more than you know to try and when for US the fans. We have injuries and growing pains to continue to endure. WE hyped this team up knowing in our heads not or hearts that we basically had the same team as last year. The true stat and metric of OUR team is Was not individual stats. Bring out starting RB back…. An effective number 2 receiver to compliment ME. Give your QB a line to setup and through accurate passes. 3 is OUR team’s QB, #8 is a good back up… Period, stop speculating and support our team and our players to victory.
November 6th, 2016 at 11:05 pm
LOL these random posters come at me from all angles and from all different parts of the galaxy.
I feel like I’m surrounded by Tie-Fighters most of the time when it comes to Jameis.
NCMike….I’m MGM. Not Joe’s level of MGM of course he’s a General or something or other of the MGM and “QB of the Future.” Tmax well I can’t speak for him. Who can?
November 6th, 2016 at 11:10 pm
Jamies is a baby, 4 years out of HIGH SCHOOL. Give him 2-3 more years to mature, because when he is on, he is fantastic. And if he trends up and gets there by 25, you have a quarterback that will be more fun to watch than Brett Favre for 10+ years. And this coming from a guy who leaned Mariotta 2 yrs ago.
Of course if he trends down by 25, oh well, just another day in Tampa Bay.
November 6th, 2016 at 11:14 pm
Or trade Winston for picks and prospect(s), and run with Glennon, and give this regime another 2 years. That could work too, but seems like more of a gamble than the current plan.
November 7th, 2016 at 9:10 am
Please Says:
November 6th, 2016 at 11:14 pm
and give this regime another 2 years.
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Hear, hear!! Amen!!
November 7th, 2016 at 10:30 am
tmaxcon Says:
November 6th, 2016 at 2:24 pm
He did exactly what he is paid to do nothing special. He’s poor preseason tape will top an irrelevant drive against a defense in full prevent mode. There will be no compensatory pick. He will sign a nice deal but will be out of league in two years
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November 7th, 2016 at 11:38 am
I’ve always been a Glennon supporter. Jameis should take note of how Mike took what the defense was giving and distributed the ball to different targets. I’m not advocating to play Glennon over a healthy Winston, but Jameis has got to learn not every throw has to be forced downfield to Evans. I also think the odds of Glennon staying in Tampa as a backup are pretty slim. He probably (rightfully so) feels like he really hasn’t had a fair shot to be the starter in Tampa and will almost undoubtedly find an opportunity to compete for the starter role with some other QB needy team. With that said I’d be happy if the Bucs somehow convince him to stay.
November 7th, 2016 at 11:14 am
I was going to stay out of thi whole argument, until you decided to compare Winston’s early years with the QBs you mentioned….
Andrew Luck – In his first year, he had future potential HOF Reggie Wayne as well as a secondary receiver in TY Hilton (who, as we see now, is pretty damn good). Dwayne Allen at TE, who is still terarning it up for the Colts. Not to mention the multiple first round picks on offense that had been used to help Peyton Manning.
Ben Roethlisberger – In his rookie year, the Steelers had the #16 ranked total offense with the #28 ranked passing offense. They also had the #2 ranked rushing offense. Couple that with the #1 ranked total defense, #4 ranked passing offense and the #1 ranked rushing defense, it’s obvious to see that Ben didn’t have to do much that season to be “great”.
Manning, Eli – his first year, they had the #26 ranked passing offense with a 6-10 record. Plus, he had the opportunity to learn behind Kurt Warner, who I heard is a pretty good quarterback.
Manning, Peyton – In his rookie year, he led the Colts to the #6 ranked passing offense with a 3-13 record.
Tom Brady – He didn’t even play his rookie year and had the opportunity to sit behind Drew Bledsoe.
Do you see the connection? The QBs you listed either had a good defense or were able to sit or struggle for a year.
But, hey, let’s not let facts get in the way of your argument.
November 7th, 2016 at 2:13 pm
HAHA Tweeted to Joe in the 4th quarter that Glennon should be starting. Don’t get me wrong, Winston has heart! But Glennon won games with a Bucs team that had NO talent. I really think they should give him a chance! What do they have to lose besides more games?