Koetter “Hopeful” For Martin Return
November 4th, 2016
May return next week.
In a perfect world, Bucs running back Doug Martin could return a week from Sunday when the Bucs host the Bears at the Den of Depression.
But first, Bucs coach Dirk Koetter said Martin has to get on the practice field this week. Speaking on SiriusXM NFL Radio, Koetter said he is crossing his fingers that will happen.
“We are hopeful after these three days off, that maybe he has a shot at Chicago next week,” Koetter said. “But again, these hamstrings seem to linger a little bit. We will have to wait and see.”
Koetter also detailed how and why Martin’s rehab was aborted a few weeks ago. Joe will have that information later.
November 4th, 2016 at 11:08 pm
The question that nobody seems to be asking is, why is it that for the last few years we have had an exorbitant amount of injuries to so many starters and why are they taking longer than most (it seems) to get back on the field? Did we get our training staff from a Mexican med school? Just a thought.
November 4th, 2016 at 11:11 pm
The Bucs have been very clear as to why some injuries take a while (hamstrings).
Honestly, without looking at specific data from all other NFL teams, Joe has no way of knowing if the Bucs have more injuries than most. Seriously.
For example, not that long ago, Belicheat had wide receivers playing in the secondary they had so many injuries.
November 4th, 2016 at 11:14 pm
Huge mistake counting on Martin a proven part time player
November 4th, 2016 at 11:16 pm
“For example, not that long ago, Belicheat had wide receivers playing in the secondary they had so many injuries.”
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Fortunately for New England fans he can actually pull that off and still win.
November 4th, 2016 at 11:20 pm
Factity fact: Lovie came here as a well tenured HC that had taken his team to a SB . He only won 2 games in his first 16 here in Tampa. Koetter is a first yr HC with a first yr DC and we have already won 3 Road games. Yeah we are stinking up the joint and I almost had to buy a new TV last night but we are better off than we were through our first half of Lovies first season. Glass half full. Need another beer
November 4th, 2016 at 11:39 pm
Injuries are a hard thing to compare. What’s worse, having 6 guys go on IR (but everyone else staying healthy) or having 12 guys rotating injuries throughout the year? I’d venture to say we don’t have any more severe injuries (ACL’s, Achilles, etc.), but it really does seem that we have more minor to moderate injuries than most teams. You can look no further than our injury report each week to see that. I think the thing that hurts us the most is that we seem to get injuries to either our best players, or players at positions with very little depth. If we don’t have Mike Evans, we can’t beat the University of Chicago, much less the Chicago Bears.
November 5th, 2016 at 12:55 am
Might as well add RB to the drawing board in the draft if we want to see Jamies progress. If we had a consistent running game in the first place we wouldn’t need to draft a WR high up in the draft.
November 5th, 2016 at 12:59 am
The post that the Joe’s put up recently about Polian railing about the NFLPA and the new practice rules may be a clue as to a large part of this problem.Maybe they can find a middle ground at some point in the future.
November 5th, 2016 at 2:58 am
Injuries have increased around the league since the bargaining agreement that players have minimum contact at practices and camp. Bodies aren’t getting use to punishment. When you don’t have contact or go full speed and contact than all of sudden you do one is more prone to injury and longer recovery time.
All traces back to this change since than it been v
Crazy around the league with injuries
November 5th, 2016 at 6:24 am
Joe Says: “The Bucs have been very clear as to why some injuries take a while (hamstrings).
Honestly, without looking at specific data from all other NFL teams, Joe has no way of knowing if the Bucs have more injuries than most. Seriously.
For example, not that long ago, Belicheat had wide receivers playing in the secondary they had so many injuries.”
So is Joe saying that the coaching is inadequate to caoch up the 2nd and 3rd stringers to start or is it LICHT simply not putting enough in the pantry? You opened this for open dialogue by your comment and I would love to hear your opinion and why you feel Belicheat wins withh injuries and the Bucs don’t. Heck Joe, maybe your comments could get the bad apple fired at RJS!
It’s so easy to compare teams to the Belicheats, which are a once-a-century organization and culture.–Joe
November 5th, 2016 at 7:16 am
Vikings have had as many injuries as the Bucs, the difference is coaching, well until the OC quit
November 5th, 2016 at 7:19 am
Agree with tmaxcon on this one that Martin is at best a part-time player. Out of 4.5 seasons now, has only played a full 16 games twice: his rookie year & his contract year (fortunately for Doug). Both seasons he was outstanding. But out of the 72 games played since he was drafted, he’s only played in 51 of them (71%). That’s acceptable for a part-time player, but not-so-much for your lead dog.
Also agree with Giovanni that Bucs need to draft a RB (should have drafted one in 2016 actually). To be a viable contender Bucs need to replace over 10 positions with quality starters & rotational players: 2 Safeties, 1 CB, 1 LB, 1 DT/NT, 2 DE on defense, plus 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE & 1 OT on offense. That’s 12 players … Bucs obviously can’t do that through the draft in even 4 years more than likely. Even if we hit on 3 starters out of every draft class (unlikely), some of those would get hurt too and we’d need quality backups for them. And with Jameis, ME13 & several others coming up for their 2nd contract, doubtful Bucs would still have the money to buy their way out of the dilemma with FAs. We’ve just gotten so far behind the 8-ball unfortunately and it’ll take a long time to dig our way out. Hint to Jason Licht: With SOOOO many needs, you don’t spend your #3 AND #4 picks on a kicker when so many highly experienced ones are available in free agency for little money.
November 5th, 2016 at 9:47 am
Perfect response, Defense Rules. This team is so talent starved that it simply cannot compete at less than full strength – especially when those injuries constantly happen to players expected to be key contributors. DM, GMC, ASJ, J. Smith, VJax, C. Sims – have all missed large chunks of multiple seasons due to injury, and they represent a significant portion of what was expected to be the core of the team. And, as big a HR as Licht hit in the 2015 draft, I fear that he really missed some opportunities this year to address the lack of depth and talent at key positions (safety, Dline, WR). We need quality, and a lot of it. Can’t waste draft picks on positions that can be adequately filled with quality players through FA.
One thing is certain, the Bucs MUST be players in free agency this year in order to plug these holes. Can’t do it all through the draft when you are missing this many pieces.
November 5th, 2016 at 1:48 pm
Ray rice , we need a new life on offense ASAP
November 5th, 2016 at 2:21 pm
I like the ray rice idea. He’s a better person than Hardy, just w a video tape
November 7th, 2016 at 9:36 am
People complaining about our injuries apparently don’t watch other teams. Anybody care to comment on the Vikings losing Adrian Peterson, Teddy Bridgewater, LT Kalil, and a few others before the season really started? We’ve lost a grand total of one good RB (Martin), never had the services of our expensive free agent OG (Sweezy-seriously, how many times are we going to pay huge amounts to OGs only to get nothing in return?), and a few games missed by starters on the DL. VJax is hurt, but he was terrible before he was hurt. We’ve lost a grand total of one quality starter for a significant time period…ONE!
Every week players get hurt…. does anybody NOT remember the Super Bowl season? We lost Booger McFarland very late in the season and ending up winning the Super Bowl with Chuck Darby playing NT. Granted, that was the only significant injury that season (we did lose Brad Johnson for a few games) and that was a big reason we, and most other teams, actually win the Super Bowl.
The one and only way to give your team a chance in avoiding injuries is to stay away from players that had lengthy injury histories or bad medical records from college. The Detroit Lions routinely took players that played great in college, when healthy, or played great but failed Combine physicals and eventually it took them to 0-16. We don’t have many players with significant injury histories in college…we’re just the average team…as far as injuries go. In every other aspect we are well below average.