Chickens Coming Home To Roost
October 30th, 2016
Joe hates to go all rearview mirror here, but the Bucs paved the way for this to happen.
All offseason Joe begged, pleaded, prayed that Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht would go out and get America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, some weapons at receiver.
After the 2015 season, the Bucs had erratic yet surpremely talented Mike Evans (who is having a Pro Bowl-type year), 33-year old bad knees Vincent Jackson, Louis Murphy coming off major knee surgery, largely untested Rudy Humphries, misplaced Calgary Stampeder Donteea Dye, special teams specialist Russell Shepard and @AfroBlunder Kenny Bell.
Joe all but lit candles hoping Licht would see the light and get a receiver.
Nope, all good. That was, until the 2016 season started.
Yes, Evans has been the story of the year for the Bucs. He’s playing great. After that, this team’s passing attack has run off the Howard Frankland Bridge.
Jackson suffered a knee injury and is likely done with the Bucs for good. Murphy just recently resumed practicing before he had a setback. Shepard suffered an injury today. Bell was rung and released and Dye has been cut twice but has returned to the practice squad. The Bucs can’t seem to get rid of him.
So if Shepard cannot play Thursday, the Bucs are looking at Evans (who will likely be triple-teamed), invisible Cecil Shorts, Rudy, who cannot stretch the field, and possibly Freddie Martino and his Band of Renown straight from the velvet-lined lounge of the trendy Vero Beach Ramada Inn.
Hell, even after the game today, Dirk Koetter admitted he went turtle on the final drive of regulation largely because the offense couldn’t do squat largely in the fourth quarter. And a big reason for that was Oakland smothered Evans because they weren’t frightened by anyone else.
Naw, man. The Bucs couldn’t have used a dependable reserve wide receiver, a seasoned veteran who had proven to produce in the NFL.
Chickens are coming home to roost, just when it appeared the Bucs could have made a rare run at first place.
Talk about egg on the face.
October 30th, 2016 at 6:26 pm
Doesnt matter if Winston keeps overthrowing them!
Trade Winston while we can still get something for him and try again next draft….simple as that! Look at Dak tearing it up in Dallas, Brady a 6th rounder. They’re out there, just have to find them.
October 30th, 2016 at 6:28 pm
That mythical draft grand slam doesn’t make Licht look so good after all his moves have backfired
October 30th, 2016 at 6:31 pm
I just finished watching the game 15 seconds ago (on a PVR delay) so I have not read any of the post game posts— the reason we lost is not Aguayo, not Winston, not even injuries…. it is no D-Line pressure!!!!! Jimmy Christmas!
October 30th, 2016 at 6:31 pm
The issue is Winston who sucks!!
October 30th, 2016 at 6:34 pm
been watching all year,seeing an antsy jameis who is not accurate to move the chains consistently.
October 30th, 2016 at 6:34 pm
D line had pressure early, then got tired I guess!
Im sure a Winston trade could bring in some pass rush!
October 30th, 2016 at 6:35 pm
I cannot remember even once that Carr had to hurry his throw and by the end of the 2nd quarter our D-Line looked gassed. Seemed to me we did not dial up many blitzes (understandable given Crabtree and Cooper) but good grief… if you cannot get pressure with 4 rushers at least once during an entire game then you are not going to win many games in a season.
October 30th, 2016 at 6:35 pm
Cannot remember even once that Carr had to hurry his throw and by the end of the 2nd quarter our D-Line looked gassed. Seemed to me we did not dial up many blitzes (understandable given Crabtree and Cooper) but good grief… if you cannot get pressure with 4 rushers at least once during an entire game then you are not going to win many games in a season.
October 30th, 2016 at 6:36 pm
sorry for the dupe
October 30th, 2016 at 6:37 pm
So Dirk again admitted to quitting on his team when the tough got going. Dirk is not head coaching material and Mike Smith isn’t a good defensive coordinator. Here’s a fix. Tell Dirk to go up into the box and go back to doing what he did well. Take Mike Smith out of the box, put him on the field, make him the head coach, then elevate someone else on the defense to be the coordinator. I know you can’t do that, but they should. At the very least Mike Smith after this terrible performance on defense should be “promoted” to assistant head-coach and someone else should take over the play calling duties on defense and that would leave Dirk more time to work with just Winston and the offense.
The team is 3-4, exactly what I predicted, but it feels like the wheels are coming off – which is not at all what I expected. Dirk doesn’t have the temperament to be a headcoach, there’s a reason he’s 95 years old and never had a headcoaching job in the NFL and we’re seeing why. From not knowing when to call timeouts to not knowing basic rules of the game Dirk is folding under pressure.
October 30th, 2016 at 6:37 pm
he has got to hit more recievers in the numbers,in stride and correct the
frequent overthrows.
October 30th, 2016 at 6:38 pm
At least they got a kicker (who can’t kick), tho, amirite?
October 30th, 2016 at 6:40 pm
I said they needed another receiver weeks ago.
This isn’t New England jason. He your young QB another weapon. Seriously unbelievable.
October 30th, 2016 at 6:41 pm
I blame licht, could haw gotten we in draft or fa. There were options.
October 30th, 2016 at 6:43 pm
Good points Rod!
October 30th, 2016 at 6:44 pm
I blame Jameis for not being able to complete 5 yard passes with consistency. If your WRs need to be 7’5 to catch the ball, it doesn’t matter.
October 30th, 2016 at 6:45 pm
Sorry Joe but even his crappy weapons were open today and your qb couldn’t hit the side of a barn. Doesn’t matter who is out there getting open if the qube can’t hit em. This game is on the play of Winston hanging his D out to dry.
October 30th, 2016 at 6:53 pm
On what should have the Raiders last play in regulation on 4th and 4 when Carr through out the back of inzone Bradley DUMBASS McDougal decided to commit a stupid penalty by wrapping his arms around a Raiders receiver,Thereby giving the Raiders another chance to tie the game ! That my weary Bucs fans is the reason we lost today’s game !
October 30th, 2016 at 6:58 pm
Corey Davis, Western Michigan. That is all.
October 30th, 2016 at 7:09 pm
Can we swap the Titans?
October 30th, 2016 at 7:13 pm
What Brian said. We have a horrible qb
October 30th, 2016 at 7:23 pm
Jameis has had his footwork and motion shortened too much, not too much for pocket success but for Jameis success . He is behind and under ALL his throws , can’t have your young QB doing that just to have a supposed perfect pocket motion………. Hell he is terrible out of the pocket , the numbers don’t lie and they say he is terrible , so let him extend a bit because this ain’t Working !!!!
Licht , nice job providing your 1 pick QB with weapons and by the way how many times has he been hit this year!! Licht you are getting closer to being unemployed by the min, sure would have been nice to have Mike James today when Rogers went down you stupid ass stubborn idiot !!! Who’s gonna tote it 22 times vs Atlanta , not Rogers he is beat down !!! This team can’t win without running it , Uh Duh no weapons !!! Licht don’t be the defensive stubborn GM that fires himself because you are quickly doing it!!
October 30th, 2016 at 7:25 pm
Oh Puhleeze Joe. Stop the whining about #3’s targets!!! Stop whining about his OL getting him beat up.
I love #3 and unlike others here I’m not giving up on him. But there is NOBODY Licht could have picked up who would have caught those deep balls that #3 wildly overthrew. He made some other bad throws that had NOTHING to do with his targets. #3 left at least two TD’s off the scoreboard with receivers running wide open behind the defense!!!
#3 made a great throw to Shep in the endzone and what happened…Shep made the play give him six!!! #3 made a good throw to Brate and what happened…give him six. Until our QB becomes accurate, makes some better decisions, stop all the whining and apologizing.
#3 has talent. But just like trying to repeat your swing in golf…#3 has to become FAR more consistent before he can claim the mantle of franchise QB. I think he’ll get there…but he’s not there yet and it’s not Licht’s fault, nor DK’s…it’s on #3 when receivers are running free behind the D!!!
October 30th, 2016 at 7:31 pm
Jamie’s has his moments, but that does not excuse the fact that Lichtenstein didn’t help him with additional weapons, no receiver outside of ME. Travis Benjamin was out there for FA, the speed we need
October 30th, 2016 at 7:32 pm
GM licht and Winston are not the answer. Nothing will change until Glazers get a football czar in here that knows what he’s doing. When you draft a kicker in the 2d round and ignore WRs you now see the results.
October 30th, 2016 at 7:35 pm
It is always everyone else fault as far as the offense goes. For a while even I thought I was seeing the real Jameis. Then all reality came back.
October 30th, 2016 at 7:38 pm
You guys don’t get it. Is not really about not having WR is about why they didn’t listen to joe.
October 30th, 2016 at 7:39 pm
And Rrsrq I hope you know Lichtenstein is a country.
October 30th, 2016 at 7:41 pm
They need to bring in a specialist to teach Winston how to throw the long ball. We could have magatron and jerry rice out there if you can’t check off your receivers and throw accurately it’s irrelevant Joe.
October 30th, 2016 at 7:44 pm
Slow down folks. Don’t go acknowledging any of Licht’s mistakes or holding him accountable in any way for the myriad of poor decisions. Just say the words Marpet and Alexander and the rest is completely invisible.
October 30th, 2016 at 7:46 pm
I for one am going to kick back and have me one of those unholy JBF Jason Licht Kool Ales while I say the words Marpet and Alexander until I pass out.
October 30th, 2016 at 7:50 pm
Don’t see why so many are down on Jameis already. He didn’t lose us the game today. Didn’t win it admittedly, but he wasn’t the reason for the loss. On offense, I’d point to the mediocre OLine play as one key reason. Then point to the lack of RB production for another. Even bigger reason is the lack of receiving threats to complement Mike Evans. But the biggest reason for today’s poor offensive display was bad play-calling. I’ve been a big supporter of Dirk Koetter, and still am, but today’s play-calling was terrible. We knew what the Raiders’ weaknesses were, yet we barely tried to capitalize on them. If it hadn’t been for the Raiders’ historic penalties, I’m not sure that the Bucs would’ve had more than a handful of 1st downs.
October 30th, 2016 at 7:52 pm
you called Doug Martin that’s for sure…there is no more ambiguous injury than a “ham string”…dude’s a effn straight up grifter…
October 30th, 2016 at 7:53 pm
Why am I awaiting moderation I only drank 2 beers.
October 30th, 2016 at 7:57 pm
Trade Winston for some D-Line help,lol…some people crack me up
October 30th, 2016 at 8:14 pm
First 3-4 games winston threw a lot of ints and a lot of them were not his fault. But now it seems like the paranoia of throwing a pick forces him to throw a lot of the short balls high. His deep ball accuracy hasn’t been there at all since he’s been a buc and I hear that was a problem at FSU as well.
October 30th, 2016 at 8:15 pm
Bullet Bob Hayes couldn’t track down all Winstons over throws. Atlanta’s and Orleans qbs completed over 80% of their passes today. I don’t care what weapons you have or don’t have, Winston can’t hit an open receiver. It just doesn’t matter.
October 30th, 2016 at 8:17 pm
joe talking chickens despite acting like an ostrich.
October 30th, 2016 at 8:24 pm
So whats your resolution Pewter? Stick with the same old and go through some freemanish years at QB while our D line continues to be mediocre at best? Ok, keep settling, whatever.
October 30th, 2016 at 8:34 pm
plus Licht let WR Sanu sign to a division rival… with a contract that was very affordable!! especially for how well he’s playing this year
October 30th, 2016 at 8:41 pm
Here we go again with the play calling…WTF Koetter? Simple analysis of Winston’s stats shows a different QB when the kid is running the hurry up/no huddle. Why not start every game with your pedal to the metal? Also, what is up with all the intermediate routes? We need more screens, quick slants, drag routes etc. All I see is 15 yard after 15 yard sideline throws. Hey coach, how about working underneath in the middle of the field.
October 30th, 2016 at 9:01 pm
Winston’s knock coming out of college was him throwing the ball high….
….two years later….it still hasn’t change….that’s been his problem since college.
The other problem is consistency too.
Jameis knows this already…..and we all know he’s been trying to correct these issues…..
But I don’t think he’ll correct them……it’s like trying to correct Byron Leftwich throwing motion…..just ain’t happening.
Also,
Everyone is saying this n that about the offense…..
I don’t think anyone could’ve predicted VJAX injury or Muscle Hamster going out……
We’ve had alot of injuries….
Plus….look at all that money the GM is paying those two as well……….
we all know the GM is saving his pennies because Mike Evans going to cost alot of money to resign him too.
So the offense is wrecked due to
#1 Injuries
#2 Money
Dirk knows what he’s doing….so does our GM
October 30th, 2016 at 9:17 pm
TheBucsAnthem, nobody saw v-jax and muscle hamster getting hurt, it shocked the bucs nation when it happened, come on man.
October 30th, 2016 at 9:27 pm
Best comment read today. 🙂
October 30th, 2016 at 9:51 pm
Need Martin to play, hurt or not. I watch Julio Jones get his ankles and legs twisted up, he plays when he’s limping around.
Winston has to become a better passer. He is off mark on too many of the easy throws. Your QB in today’s NFL should be completing 65-70% of his throws. If Winston doesn’t start throwing strikes it’s time to ring up the bullpen.
He doesn’t have great weapons but it’s his job to get the ball to open receivers, he isn’t cutting it now.
October 30th, 2016 at 10:17 pm
Lynch Mob, I agree. This offense won’t take off until they put Winston in the hurry up and keep him there until some one stops it.
October 30th, 2016 at 10:47 pm
How about Rody White and Brian Hartline try out this tomorrow.