No Coup
January 27th, 2016
Not a victim.
Joe used to think the days leading up to the draft were the silly season because of all the nonsense, hot air and outright lies told within NFL circles.
Then along comes BSPN.
Like a child whose rattle was snatched out of his mouth, the cries and screams from the folks at BSPN over the firing of Lovie Smith make you think the the Bucs had just fired Joe Gibbs, if you didn’t know better.
In fact, four-letter folks were in such denial, they clung to the notion that something corrupt was afoot at One Buc Palace. Hence, the hatching of the feces that there was a palace coup, with Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht playing the part of Pontius Pilate and Dirk Koetter playing the role of Judas Iscariot.
In the BSPN video below, Mike Greenberg and Mike Golic discuss the possibility Lovie was victimized by his own hand-picked hires, which is such nonsense Joe doesn’t even know where to begin.
January 27th, 2016 at 8:07 am
Lovie sucked
January 27th, 2016 at 8:21 am
On the Bucs own website, watch Jason Licht being interviewed by Casey Philips the day of Koetter’s presser…Bout half-way thru the interview Licht makes a curious reference to Koetter “not being stubborn” in any way in reference to his coaching style…Hmm. Lovie was a victim of his own arrogant decisions from the time he got here, starting with Josh Mccown. Wonder what all these sh!t-talkers will have to say if suddenly Verner and Banks are playing high level football again next season? Oh wait, then it will be Lovie having been victimized by his players, not the players by Lovie’s stubborn square peg round hole scheme…smh.
January 27th, 2016 at 8:24 am
Lovie dug his own grave….I wish we could erase him for Bucs history…sick of hearing his name. What a colossal freaking waste of 2 years. The man was clueless from the beginning.
Super excited about the future.
Go Bucs!!!
January 27th, 2016 at 8:25 am
Look at the dumb look on his face in the pic above….does that look like a man that is sure of himself??
January 27th, 2016 at 8:29 am
Actually Joe….Lovie was victimized by his hand picked hires…..his sons!!!
January 27th, 2016 at 8:33 am
There is no way a coup was afoot. They may have went backwards at mock 3 for the last four games but the important thing was that the players still were not allowed to swear in the locker room!
January 27th, 2016 at 8:46 am
Wasted 2 years with Lovie…”simple as that”…
January 27th, 2016 at 8:55 am
Let me say this:
If there was a coup…. could you blame ANYONE for staging it after what you saw on the field?
January 27th, 2016 at 8:57 am
Off topic, but something I’ve been curious about for awhile now.
Does anybody know how Lovie got the scars on his face?
January 27th, 2016 at 9:05 am
Wow these Media-heads won’t let this die…Lovie was victimized by himself…in the last 2 years how many times was he out coached?? Too many times to count…
Imho when he arrived we were better than a 2-14 team before he started purging the team of guys like Penn, Revis, Goldson, etc…the best thing he did in 2 years was draft Jameis…Had he passed of Winston we could have easy went 2-14 again this season under him…The bottom line is our Rookie QB was not the weakest link on the team this season; Lovies “Bend and then Break” defense was…
Dont get me wrong, I like Lovie; he’s genuinely a very nice guy but his 22-69 record against teams with a winning record is proof that he’s a average coach at best…Good coaches that are fired unjustly are usually rehired in a matter of days; Lovie couldn’t land a DC job right now…
January 27th, 2016 at 9:16 am
You know how I know something is a good idea?
When Mike and Mike are against it.
January 27th, 2016 at 9:24 am
Jason Licht basically told all of us what his part in this “Coup” was at a press conference. he said it was his JOB, as general manager, to report to the Glazers and make suggestions on the entire team.
Maybe Jason the person liked Lovie, but Jason Licht the General Manager did not.
He did the job he was hired to do, and that is to look out for the best interest of Tampa Bay.
January 27th, 2016 at 9:31 am
I for one am happy and content Lovir was the coach. We are closer then ever of having our Frnachise QB on our roster then before. If it was for LS we would be going in to this draft or FA looking for a QB again. Hopefully JW will have a long and successful career here, and maybe a few SB’s. Even though the NFL is ruining the game.
January 27th, 2016 at 9:45 am
Didn’t Coach K. have hip surgery before Lovie was s-canned? Kinda hard to pull off a coup when you’re all juiced up on opiates in a hospital bed.
January 27th, 2016 at 9:47 am
Thank you Lovie for tanking against the Saints week 17 in 2014.
For that we are forever indebted – I hope.
January 27th, 2016 at 9:59 am
Meanwhile the same ppl enjoy picking the Bucs as cellar dwellers annually.
This is a mess! No one outted Lovie but Lovie. If people were so butt hurt then lobby for him to come coach your teams in their cities!
January 27th, 2016 at 10:07 am
Some of these guys have sources just like you JOE why are we to believe what you write as the gospel but cant be opened minded that maybe something went on that you have no knowledge of I support my Bucs who ever the coach but to believe that nothing like this could happened is straight naïve. Back stabbing is the foundation many businesses, countries and industries were built. In today’s society I put nothing past know one
January 27th, 2016 at 10:21 am
So why don’t you call the show and talk some sense into them joe? Get on air and dicuss your opinion from a very popular local prospective. I don’t even watch espn anymore but if you posted a clip of your straightening them out. I’d listen.
Same as big puppy. Only time I listen to his show is when you are on. It’s funny how he goes from kissing ass to disrespect in a matter of mins between the tampa 2 to jbf hour (even though we get cheated out of the whole hour)
January 27th, 2016 at 10:21 am
fortunately for these conspiracy theorists they didn,t have to watch these games. anybody watching would see lovie did not coach to win.Jason
Licht had his eye on Winston before he came here was instrumental in drafting him. on to watching the game,Lovie lost at least 4 games with stubborn ,conservative gametime decisions.Failure to let the offense go for TD’s. instead of field goals(missed all too often),doomed us in games.He had false faith in depleted defense and kept them on field far too much.
thank you Glazers for seeing the Licht.Progess of team and Lovies’
decisions in coaches and in games caused his dismissal.also majority of fans
had lost faith in Lovie.
January 27th, 2016 at 10:21 am
LOVIE FACE!
January 27th, 2016 at 10:44 am
I’m still trying to figure out the win at the Eagles. The players must have said the hell with Lovie, he is asleep on the sideline, we’ll do it our way.
January 27th, 2016 at 10:47 am
lovie smith made good decisions in 2 years:
1) recruiting jason licht
2) going full tank mode in late 2014
3) drafting Winston
decision #1 ultimately gave the Glazers a way out of Lovie hell, but he was done in by the fact that there none of his achievements as a head coach, coordinator, or king of the 53 man roster.
i hesitate to give him credit for koetter, based on lovie’s history with OCs that just feels like someone else’s (the CM’s) idea. i also doubt he was overruling his scouts regarding the offensive draft board, unless they had other ideas for the #1 pick in 2015.
January 27th, 2016 at 10:47 am
*he was done in by the fact that none of his achievements as a head coach, coordinator, or king of the 53 man roster made that list of good decisions
January 27th, 2016 at 10:51 am
@NewDayInTampa – implying a coup of any type requires the assumption that Lovie’s firing could not be justified on merit. Then, you have to ask yourself, which coach under those circumstances is best for the team? there’s a reason everyone on the planet connected the dots and speculated\predicted even before the firing…because it is what a rational person trying to undo this mess would do
even if Licht and Koetter lobbied for it, they weren’t wrong and they weren’t the wrong choices to move ahead with
January 27th, 2016 at 10:58 am
Thankfully I also enjoy hockey and the Bolts are playing well. I dislike baseball and so this is heading to a tough time for me….the NFL silly season.
All of this is just silly!!! In high school my Chemistry teacher told us all on the very first day…don’t talk to me about the grade I give you…I’m not going to give any of you a grade…you will EARN your grade.
Coup? They didn’t hold a gun to the Glazer’s head. They didn’t supply the Glazers with false information. Lovie EARNED his firing…it wasn’t given to him..his job wasn’t taken away from him by Licht or Koetter…he blew his chance.
Are we not all comforted by the fact that on the new coaching staff there are no little Koetters who have been hired. Our D played horribly and worst of all on the back end where Lovie’s kids were in place. What were their credentials?
Were they the best available coaching talent for those jobs?
January 27th, 2016 at 12:44 pm
Communication between general manager and Glazers is nothing new.There was a close relationship between Rich Mckay and the Glazers also. The glazers just righted a sinking ship and returned to a structure that worked in the past.
January 27th, 2016 at 1:17 pm
Some of you fans are so innacurate its laughable. You wouldn’t know what’s good for this franchise if it bit you in your face. Sure Lovie had his shortcomings and had to go. But don’t comment and act like he didn’t get this team headed on the right track after taking over a crappy franchise that was free falling from the brutal Dominick era.
Comment such as: “waste of 2 years, wish we could erease his name from Bucs history, clueless”
At least I am reading a few comments that understand how Lovie had some positive effects on the Bucs. I guess all the insulters just believe hiring a good GM is an easy task. Same could be said for hiring a quality OC.
Pay attention and realize that many teams fumble with these decisions. It becomes a leading factor in becoming a perrianal loser………Though if Lovie is what you say he is then I supposed he messed up those decisions too and we are still going to be perrianal losers.
And what do you have to say about the draft? Are you going to set there and tell me that the man who had personal control had no influence in our selections? Dont kid yourselves.
So go ahead, keep cussing Lovies name. I don’t expect you to change. But I will be here to remind you when your comments are innacurate.
And surely you’ll be the loudest fans cheering at the stadium next year if and when we win some meaningful games. You can praise Koetter and Licht all you want for this, that’s your right. But again I would remind you that a mere head coach change doesn’t magically make an overnight difference. It takes a process to turn a franchise around, a process that was started by Lovie himself.
Thank You Lovie and Go Bucs!!!!
January 27th, 2016 at 1:19 pm
Yeah Bob I think the Glazers tryed that with Dominick too. Dominick just never made any good decisions.
January 27th, 2016 at 2:08 pm
Lets move on. I am one of those who thought Lovie should have been given a true Defensive draft to see what he could do. That being said, its not my team its the Glazers. I do hope however 2 yrs is not our measuring stick of coaches. Lovie won in Chicago and might have won here given time. But its done. its Over. We now have our..so called Golden Boy and I can’t wait to see the product he and his staff will put on the field. Our schedule next year is harder. But..no excuses. 31 other teams think their schedule is hard also. I just want to see a tougher Defense from our Bucs. There were 5 for sure games we should have won easily this past season had we had a Defense. And that is/was..Lovie’s fault. And Lovie would have kept his job had he been willing to make some changes. I still think Lovie gets another shot somewhere after…he collects millions owed to him by our Bucs. Kinda hard to feel sorry for a man who can sit around and drink coffee for 3 yrs and still get paid..Bigtime. Defense people…we gotta get much better.
January 27th, 2016 at 4:24 pm
I am all for improving the defense and the changes in coaching give me hope that will happen. but when defense gives you a turnover anything less than a td,is a little deflating. Too many times we came away with zero or 3 points.This is the time to get aggressive on offense and put the other team away.This is part of Carolina game plan and it can work for us too.
January 27th, 2016 at 8:11 pm
I look at it this way…even if it was a coup…if it gets results I don’t care.
I didn’t feel Lovie deserved firing, but that won’t turn me against the Bucs or the current coaches. Rest assured…people around here will turn on them the moment they lose two games in a row. Not me.
January 27th, 2016 at 8:41 pm
This whole scandal deal has been reported by national media without sources.
I appreciate all the info this site and sports radio provide. These are the two sources I use to hear news about the Bucs and y’all do a good job reporting things like this. If there were a scandal this site would have articles about it.
The conspiracy theory is a rating thing. Viewers love a good conspiracy and its just as interesting whether opinion or fact based.
But Joe if there is a scandal please let us know so we can prepare for a dismal season.
January 27th, 2016 at 9:58 pm
Who will this GM blame next year.