Regular 1-on-1 Time For Lovie And Jameis
November 18th, 2015
Leading the leader
Joe firmly believes Lovie Smith isn’t getting anywhere near the credit he deserves for developing America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston.
There are so many haters who believe it’s simply all Dirk Koetter running the offense.
That’s pure silly talk, as far as Joe is concerned.
Lovie drafted Jameis. Lovie didn’t play games with making Jameis earn a starting job. Lovie let Jameis be himself and didn’t try to stifle him and quash his instincts and personality, like many coaches would have. Lovie hired Dirk Koetter, and Lovie handpicked Jameis’ quarterbacks coach, Mike Bajakian, a guy who worked under Lovie in Chicago. (You think Koetter would have hired Bajakian?)
It all adds up to Lovie developing a franchise quarterback prospect.
Joe asked Lovie today if he carves out time every week to spend with Jameis — head coach to leader.
“Yes, sir. It’s been that way since early on. I’ll just say that,” Lovie said.
Lovie added that his rookie middle linebacker, the quarterback of the defense, gets the same type of attention.
“But at the same time, I spend time with Jameis every day. So, but yeah, you try to spend a little bit with Kwon Alexander, too. Both of our leaders on both sides of the ball a little bit.”
Lovie still has plenty to prove in his Bucs gig. Two wins in a row sure would be nice, but don’t even try to say Lovie hasn’t done a masterful job with Jameis.
November 18th, 2015 at 4:00 pm
Funny how Lovie didn’t say he spent time or met with GMC everyday…hmmm…
November 18th, 2015 at 4:00 pm
@JOE
LMAO…good job trolling the Lovie haters here.
But there was a line in your grab of Lovie that does hit me a bit.
“But at the same time, I spend time with Jameis every day. So, but yeah, you try to spend a little bit with Kwon Alexander, too. Both of our leaders on both sides of the ball a little bit.”
Yeah I know Lovie is referring to both of his “signal callers” I guess? We know #3 is the leader of the offense…but Kwon and not GMC is the leader of the defense?
November 18th, 2015 at 4:07 pm
It’s incredible how the addition of two young leaders on both sides of the ball can change the entire dynamic of a football team. There is still a lot of work that needs to be done, starting with back to back wins, but I love this draft class so far and hope these guys continue to grow together.
November 18th, 2015 at 4:13 pm
Kwon is the play caller in the huddle. Therefore he’s in a natural position of leadership. Also GMC has proved this year that he is not the type of leader this team reacts to.
GMC is putting too much pressure on himself. He’s pressing and he is not in control of himself anymore. It looks like he has lost his confidence in himself. He certainly isn’t a game day leader, he doesn’t rally the troops.
November 18th, 2015 at 4:18 pm
Heh Joe, how about some BUCS Eagles history and how its time to reestablish that history of this week!!!! Just saying… Beating them was a MAJOR turning point in team history…
Now that we have gotten everyone that matters back on the Love Boat…. How about calling this weeks game an early precursor to “the turning point”.
Just a thought…
November 18th, 2015 at 4:26 pm
Lol Yea let’s give Lovie credit for doing what he’s suppose to do. Great job Lovie. Now can you do that other thing you were hired to do, win some games. You know more than 6 out of 25 would be appreciated.
November 18th, 2015 at 4:31 pm
One of the best articles ever written on this site! Thank you for keeping it REAL Joseph!!!!
November 18th, 2015 at 4:31 pm
For whatever reason…There definitely are more Lovie Haters than there were Schiano haters. those in the Football know, realize it takes time to develop t rue winners. Lovie I believe is on the road to doing this. Once our defense gets into place? We are gonna be A..KIckers. Just wait and see. We still gtot a shot at finishing 8-8 this year. We are playing better.
GO BUCS.
The only way to silence haters is to Win. Lovie gets it.
November 18th, 2015 at 4:51 pm
Im not sure that just because they spend time together, he’s responsible for Jameis’s success. That’s quite the stretch. I’m sure Ken Wisenhunt spent countless hours with Mariota before his legendary week 1. That worked out great. Jameis is destined to be great and no head coach, good or Lovie, can stop him. The only thing I’ll give Lovie credit for is holding an NFL team to 6 points. Still hate him, still want a new HC! (I must reiterate that I liked him at the beginning of the year)
November 18th, 2015 at 4:54 pm
There definitely are more Lovie Haters than there were Schiano haters.
Mike I think that’s because of a totally different level of expectation.
Schiano was famous for turning a horrible Rutgers program into a mediocre program. Going from awful to mediocre is an improvement and so I suspect the Glazers thought..hey if we’re just throwing darts at the board why not try the guy with the cheapest price tag.
Schiano’s main claim to fame was that he totally befuddled Jim Leavitt. When USF was high in the rankings it seemed that Schiano always found a way to beaat the Bulls. Other than that he has no real accompishments.
Lovie on the other hand had seasons with the Bears where he won 11 games twice..ten games in another year and of course 13 games and a trip to the Super Bowl. Many just assumed he would walk in and throw a switch and turn the franchise around.
November 18th, 2015 at 4:56 pm
I’m still not on the Lovie bandwagon but Lovie is slowly winning me over. I’ll judge the merits of his coaching on our second half finish to this season. I still feel his antiquated approach and conservative nature is a drawback. Reckless use of timeouts and still unable to get this team to stop committing egregious penalties. If those issues start to disappear, most notably the penalties I will sing a different tune.
November 18th, 2015 at 5:07 pm
@StPete….uhhh…you might want to check out how many Rutgers players Schiano put into the NFL buddy. He knew how to get his players NFL ready.
November 18th, 2015 at 5:15 pm
@Bobby
uhhhh… you might want to check out how many players got affected by that MRSA outbreak. He may have gotten a few Rutgers players NFL READY, but he sure as hell didn’t know what to do with NFL players once they got there!!
November 18th, 2015 at 5:30 pm
haha…like the head coach has ANYTHING to do with the MRSA outbreak. That made me laugh.
November 18th, 2015 at 5:33 pm
@Luther
Thanks! I could have brought up the Josh Freeman fiasco or the fact that he LOST the locker room, but that would have been too easy…..
November 18th, 2015 at 5:40 pm
@OneLove
Josh Freeman brought himself down and Schiano just happened to be the first guy to recognize it. There are many reasons to not like Schiano but you haven’t given a valid one yet.
November 18th, 2015 at 5:58 pm
@Luther
Come on now Lex. I’m pretty sure “losing the locker room” is ONE valid reason. I could list a lot of other reasons, but why would I waste my time?? We both know Schiano is NEVER going to be a head coach in the NFL EVER AGAIN. So what’s the point??
November 18th, 2015 at 6:00 pm
Schiano had problems with his QB’s in college too so that wasn’t anything new.
November 18th, 2015 at 6:05 pm
@onelove
uhhh lovie needs to go 5-2 in the remaining games, just to tie Coach Schiano’s first 2 years!!!!
November 18th, 2015 at 6:14 pm
Dungy thinks he is a future Hall of Famer, Lovie might think he is worthy also if he can get the Bucs back to the Super Bowl no matter how long it takes.
November 18th, 2015 at 6:23 pm
@The Buc Realist
There you are!! Been awfully quiet as of late. I expected it as you are NEVER around celebrating our team victories, but are always LOUD after a defeat.
The difference so far between Schiano and Smith in regards to Tampa Bay Buccaneers football is Lovie’s Bucs are PROGRESSING and Schiano’s Bucs were REGRESSING. The future is bright with what Lovie and Licht have put in place and I don’t know how people are NOT excited about this!
Now in regards to comparing Greg Schiano to Lovie Smith. Do I need to tell you what Greg Schiano has to do to match Lovie Smith’s accomplishment’s as an NFL Head Coach?? You say you’re a “realist” so I hope you know that Greg Schiano will NEVER be as GOOD as Lovie Smith.
THANK YOU!
November 18th, 2015 at 6:30 pm
I can’t support any coach that comes in and does worse than his predecessor with a better team
November 18th, 2015 at 6:35 pm
And BTW Joe. Dirk Kotter does run the offense. Lovie doesn’t call or install plays. He doesn’t scout defense’s or come up with offensive gameplans. From what I can gather, he just tells Dirk Kotter which players to start because he’s pompous and slaps the handcuffs on our offense once we get a 2 score lead for his defense to blow. Dirk just shakes his head yes cause he knows the HC job should and probably will be his next year!
November 18th, 2015 at 6:39 pm
It’s all a matter of expectations……Lovie & Licht came in and stated that we shouldn’t be patient…..everyone, including them, thought we would start winning…..didn’t happen…2-14…..much of that was due to losing the OC and teh rest….a disastrous FA.
Then the hiring of Koetter….Drafting of Jameis….2 good Olinemen and the surprise of Kwon.
Expectations were set low for this year with most now realizing….its a rebuild situation….so 6 wins would satisfy many.
For me….I’m looking a bit more long-term and don’t care if we get to 6 wins….I want our team to fight and be competitive.
Next year my expectations are much higher…..like 9 or 10 wins.
The other thing I look for is “What is the alternative”…..firing Lovie is not an option unless the alternative is a clear winner….and I’m not convinced at all that the Glazers can assure that….so, I’m sticking with Lovie…..for now.
November 18th, 2015 at 6:41 pm
Fsuking Says:
November 18th, 2015 at 6:30 pm
I can’t support any coach that comes in and does worse than his predecessor with a better team
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Just when I thought this thread couldn’t get any dumber… wooow… Lawd have mercy!
November 18th, 2015 at 6:45 pm
“The other thing I look for is “What is the alternative”…..firing Lovie is not an option unless the alternative is a clear winner….and I’m not convinced at all that the Glazers can assure that….so, I’m sticking with Lovie…..for now.”
EXAAACTTTLY TBBF!! Slap Pablo on the @ss for me!!! 😀
November 18th, 2015 at 7:07 pm
Both our leaders on both sides of the ball?
Whoa…that is big
And neither one is wearing that “C” on their jersey…yet
November 18th, 2015 at 7:35 pm
@Creamsickle. I know Jameis will be wearing that “C” next year. Good chance for Kwon also. GMC has been thrown under the bus. I really think he’s going to get it going though. I also believe his injury is worse than we realize. I watched McCoy be a disruptive force our first 5 games and then he just tailed off. He’ll be fine.
November 18th, 2015 at 7:50 pm
Just to clarify what a leader is in one word… EXAMPLE…. Kwon is assuming the leadership role because of the EXAMPLE he is providing… GMC is still and always will be a leader because he sets the EXAMPLE for off the field stuff as much as he has ever set the EXAMPLE on the field… So anyone thinking a team only has one leader needs to realize one thing… The more EXAMPLES the better… On the flip side EXAMPLES work the opposite way as well… Which is why I gibe Lovie a ton of credit for cutting the bad EXAMPLES in favor of the good EXAMPLES…..
Hope some of you can realize the EXAMPLES that Lovie is establishing are what it takes to be successful long term… Bennett may be your EXAMPLE for bad move but I counter simply with…. WTF do you know, you can’t say that not getting brought back didn’t lite the fire in him to do what he has been since being gone….
Bottom line, Lovie deserves the credit that a coach is do when the culture of a team changes… If you can honestly look at this team and not see that change you simply are not looking for ANYTHING positive… Thus your a Fan of Depression still suffering the effects of a losers mentality… You are excused from your depression but I incorage you to snap out of it…. Other wise your a troll and I just can’t stand you sofa king we taughts honestly…
November 18th, 2015 at 8:29 pm
Lovie is turning this team around and some don’t like it and wont admit it, or give him credit for it. Whatever happens to the team, good or bad, the head coach gets the blame or credit and thats just the way it is, period.
November 18th, 2015 at 9:03 pm
Stop. Just stop. It can’t possibly be that people just dont like the fact Lovie has so far been pretty awful. 6 wins in 25 attempts. Wins and losses is all that matter Lovie has not been getting it done. How does it go OneLove? “It’s as simple as that.”
November 18th, 2015 at 11:28 pm
Interesting. He called Kwon the leader on that side of the ball. Another example of Geraldine losing his battle with reality. The reality that he is just a mere average player. And right now that’s even reaching.
November 19th, 2015 at 3:32 am
I am so glad you idiots are not in charge of the football team. If it was up to you, and you know who I am talking about, you would have a new OC and head coach every year and a half because they suddenly didn’t Win 80% of their games.
Why is it so hard to understand that this team has been wiping the slate clean and rebuilding every 2 to 3 years since Gruden left. It’s pathetic and it is what losing franchises do. Lovie came in and cleaned house last year to figure out what they had to build on. Now the pieces are there to build something lasting. They have a head coach that the entire team respects and follows, a head coach who has a proven track record, a head coach who took a crap QB to the Super Bowl, a head coach who has only had a couple of losing seasons in his entire career, but all that doesn’t matter.
You idiots sitting on your couch know better.
So make a list Joe.
List the Lovie haters
List the JW haters.
I really want to see what they say next year when the Bucs are fighting to win the division and become a perennial playoff team.
November 19th, 2015 at 8:58 am
Well said Dave,I concur.
November 19th, 2015 at 11:02 am
@Bobby
@StPete….uhhh…you might want to check out how many Rutgers players Schiano put into the NFL buddy. He knew how to get his players NFL ready.
I certainly take your point Bobby but isn’t that really another indictment of Schiano’s coaching ability. If he had NFL quality players he surely didn’t create a great team with NFL talent.
Jimbo Fisher…Nick Saban…Urban Meyers are great coaches because they are the three best recruiters in the land. They always have good players. But unlike Schiano they are able to mold them into winners.
Don’t get me wrong I always liked Schiano personally. The way he behaved after Eric Legrand’s paralysis was a story suitable for a TV docudrama. I just think Schiano had problems getting a “team” to gel.
As for the absurd posters who wish to compare a two year record against a two year record when the team sucked all four years…get over yourselves.
Tmax is always telling us to raise our standards…Schiano won seven freaking games his first year….yeeehaaa…he won FOUR his second year…Lovie has already matched that with seven games to go!!! And so if Lovie finished with six wins this year are we going to jump up and down and say that’s 33% better than Schiano did in his second year. No that would be stupid.
The sensible posters here are looking for longer term trends. Two years isn’t enough to judge a coach…not fair to either Schiano or Lovie for that matter.
November 19th, 2015 at 11:03 am
@Dave
Agree with Noleonsat that was an excellent post..