“We Don’t Take Crap From Anybody”
November 4th, 2015
There’s a new attitude without Evan Smith and Demar Dotson
Two Buccaneers offensive linemen dissect the growth and gelling of the team’s most surprising unit.
There just can’t be enough celebration when it comes to the Bucs’ offensive line. It deserves the attention, and Joe will deliver like no other.
Center Joe Hawley, the man who sent Evan Smith to his proper place, answered the most pressing question last night on the Buccaneers Radio Network. Hawley was asked what’s working so well.
Interesting that Hawley went right to Logan Mankins.
“Over the past few weeks, it’s just, I think the way Logan plays, he plays really hard, and I kind of bring that same mentality,” Hawley said. “And with two young guys who are trying to find their way and develop their style in the NFL, I think they see that and they realize that’s how the game’s supposed to be played. So they’re coming along really well and playing hard.
“Gosder [Cherilus] plays hard, too. I think that’s our M.O. We finish every play to the whistle, and we don’t take crap from anybody. We back each other up.”
Hawley added that the personal fouls on the O-line in the “chippy” game at Washington can’t happen, but Hawley said they were critical to the unit. “The way that everybody fought for each other was really important,” he said.
Joe talked to Mankins in the happy Bucs locker room Sunday in Atlanta. Joe wanted to know whether he can finger why he’s playing better this season.
“Yeah, I’m playing better, it’s a better team,” Mankins said. “The guys I have around me, I have a lot of trust and faith in what they’re doing. It makes my job a lot easier when I know what the guy next to me is going to do. It’s been the overall system that we’re in now favors us better. Everything’s been upgraded, and that’s why we’re playing better.”
On whether his offseason body upgrade, including six-pack abs, is helping him now, Mankins shot that down. “No, I still feel 33 and 11 years in. That doesn’t go away.”
Mankins added that the six-pack abs disappeared several weeks ago.
Telling stuff from the Bucs’ O-linemen. Note how Mankins said “everything’s been upgraded.” That includes personnel.
November 4th, 2015 at 10:39 am
Loved the personal fouls against Washington. It shows these guys are hungry to win. We need more passion like that on the whole team.
November 4th, 2015 at 10:53 am
@Costa Rica John Exactly ! I’m not saying that I don’t care about penalty. I’m not obsess with them.
I prefe rhaving penalties sometimes with an OLinemen ready to run over everybody in front of them than having no penalty with an OL stopping nobody
November 4th, 2015 at 10:53 am
They’re definitely becoming nasty. You can see that by how they finish off blocks. Of course the downside is there will be more personal fouls. However, the good outweighs the bad.
November 4th, 2015 at 10:57 am
I’ll take that 15(Yes, i’m talking about Marpets WANG) ALL DAY!!!
WOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
“It’s as simple as that” – Lovie Smith
“Changing coaches about halfway through a rebuilding effort is a recipe for perpetual failure.” – Johnny “America’s Commenter” Dejay
“If Lovie don’t no how to coach so be it… Hard to believe he would get a job offer and you wouldn’t…. Wonder why??? Your idiots that’s why…” – JAB83
“So my advice would be, yes, it’s okay to throw things at your TV when your team has a monumental collapse like the Bucs did on Sunday in Washington. But take a deep breath and understand that it is only going to get worse if you continue to jump from one coach to the next.” – Peter King
November 4th, 2015 at 10:58 am
“However, the good outweighs the bad.”
As long as none turn out to be Trueblood stupid in the long term.
November 4th, 2015 at 11:07 am
I’d rather have a well-timed personal foul than holding……the benefit outweighs the extra 5 yards…..
Koetter wasn’t mentioned but I think he is one of the major reasons for improvement…..that plus rookie enthusiasm.
November 4th, 2015 at 11:10 am
Goldson flopped like a 3rd world soccer player, well timed it wasn’t, but he learned something. If he ripped out a gold tooth, and took the 15 great. Marpet lost on that play.
He will have a bullseye on him for awhile now with others trying to draw those.
November 4th, 2015 at 11:22 am
I can empathize with Mankins……getting traded by SB Champion NE after many years of success…..having to move……playing next to Collins with Marcus Arroyo as his OC……that, added to no place to BBQ…..what a difference a year has made for him.
I hope we restructure him….perhaps a 2 year 9 mil contract…..(he won’t get more than a 1year 4mil deal on the open market.
Most cant play well at his age….but Mankins can.
November 4th, 2015 at 11:34 am
@TBBF
Agree with your take completely. Age is a VERY individual thing. Some players are simply more fragile, wear out faster or have bad injury luck.
But Mankins while certainly showing some wear and tear seems to still be able to play at the required level and his experience and leadership with that unit is invaluable.
November 4th, 2015 at 11:43 am
Mankins is def the kind of leader this team needs
November 4th, 2015 at 11:44 am
We should all be glad that Mankins has taken it upon himself to improve this team that has (mostly) been a disgrace since the soccer-bros took over. Treat the man with the respect he deserves. Don’t pull another dumb-ass jack-ass move and try to trade or release him because you think the grass is greener (or cheaper) on the other side. How has this revolving door of players and coaches worked out for the Bucs since 2007? Feel free to attempt to take me to task with stupid Glazer-sycophant-shill comments.
November 4th, 2015 at 11:48 am
I’d like to see mankins as the oline coach.
November 4th, 2015 at 12:02 pm
I agree about the penalties. I’ll take a 15 yard penalty for hitting a guy in the mouth every once in awhile. Just avoid the holdings/false starts/etc.
November 4th, 2015 at 12:43 pm
Don’t get me wrong, a coach is suppose prepare is troops for battle; with a proper game plan. But enough can’t be said for leading by example.
That’s why Established, Productive, Grizzly – NFL Veteran like Logan Mankins make the glue of a roster. And leave behind a template on how to be dominate pro
I can recall when the San Francisco 49er’s signed Hall Famer Larry Allen, at the tail end of his dominating career. How his leadership, experience, and toughness corralled – A young, unproductive – previously weak unit.
Greg Roman constantly spoke of Larry Allen as the lench pen – to the 49ers budding offensive line.
Reflections of Larry Allen:
“When he’d go in the game, he’d look to coach and say, ‘Run (expletive) here,’ ” running back Frank Gore said. “They’d call the play, and we’d be successful. I’m happy to say I played with him.”
Left tackle Joe Staley thought back to his 2007 rookie season: “It was my fifth day of training camp, and I had gotten beat about 10 times in a row on 1-on-1s. I was real passive and intimidated by everybody. After I get beat another time, (Allen) goes in his booming voice, ‘Hey rook, (expletive) punch him.’ So I did the next time, whoever it was, and it worked. (Allen) says, ‘Was that so hard.’ ”
Staley’s grandfather was a Cowboys fan and would show him tapes of Allen’s dominance during his Dallas tenure, from 1994-2005. “When I got drafted here (in 2007) and realized I would be playing with him, it was surreal and made me feel I was in the right spot,” said Staley, who played right tackle as a rookie before moving to left tackle in 2008.
When Allen arrived to start at left guard in 2006, Frank Gore ran for what still stands as a career-high 1,695 yards. Allen went on to his 11th and final Pro Bowl while Gore went to his first.
Mike Iupati, who last season became the 49ers’ first Pro Bowl guard since Allen, admires the power Allen displayed in his career. “It’s good for us offensive linemen to look at his film and emulate him, because he’s one of the best, and maybe the best,” Iupati said.
November 4th, 2015 at 12:48 pm
DB55
Exactly – when you’ve got a guy like that. U set him with a life time contract.
Give him all the resources he needs.
November 4th, 2015 at 1:10 pm
DB55 Says:
November 4th, 2015 at 11:48 am
“I’d like to see mankins as the oline coach.”
Or just ef it, make him, you or me HC the rest of the season…
November 4th, 2015 at 1:45 pm
George Warhop is doing a much better job coaching this season too,
What a difference a year makes.
November 4th, 2015 at 2:38 pm
Luv + 87
Either one works for me.
November 4th, 2015 at 6:08 pm
I like Mankins. Yes, he’s a’ little long in the tooth. But he does play well from time to time. He’s a great mentor to the youngins on the line. And..Judging from comments from Lovie and the rest of the team as of late, Our Bucs seem
to be gaining confidence that they can win. This is important. If our Defense plays slightly better, we win quite a few games. An upset might be in the making come Sunday against them Giants.
GO BUCS!!
November 4th, 2015 at 7:31 pm
It is truly amazing the difference between last year and this year with the OL. Last years debacle with Anthony Collins, Oniel Cousins, Patrick Omemah and Garrett Gilkey? Simply pathetic to incredibly awesome. I don’t agree that Goldson won with his loser flop and penalty. That exchange between him and Marpet showed everyone a side to Marpet which had not yet been released. You know other teams are taking notice. Mankins said that they trust each other. Trust and chemistry in an OL is everything. Notice how you just don’t see the confusion and missed assignments with the OL, like we saw last year? “We finish every play to the whistle, and we don’t take crap from anybody. We back each other up.” Who would have thought? To the guy who took the heat last year and really has received very little recognition this year.. George Warhop. Great job!
November 4th, 2015 at 10:13 pm
I like how easily Marpet puts people on his back. If the NFL thing didn’t work out for him because of the whole D-3 thing that man would be the worlds best bouncer!
November 5th, 2015 at 8:18 am
We’re going to play teams that are better than us. But in order to have a shot, we can’t beat ourselves: continue to take care of the football and keep minimizing the dumb penalties.
November 5th, 2015 at 8:37 am
I loved that personal foul Maret got on gholston he hurt vjac earlier we take care of our own Go Bucs