Brutal In Fourth Quarter
July 14th, 2015
Shameful statistic on Bucs offense.
You want to find something to be enraged about?
You want to find a way to justify throwing a beer bottle at a smartarse bartender without invoking the name “Myron Lewis?” Well, keep reading.
Joe was digging last night for Bucs information — seems like 95 percent of NFL folks are on sabbatical — and came across a piece of information that had Joe reaching for a bottle of TUMS.
NFL stat geek Jonathan Kinsey Twittered out that the last 13 times the Bucs have given up a fourth quarter lead, their record is 0-13. That’s right. The last 13 times the Bucs blew a fourth quarter lead, they lost.
(Please note this stat specifies teams that lost leads in the fourth quarter. The Bucs did rally to beat the Steelers last year but the Bucs trailed in the third quarter and only led in the fourth quarter after the game-winning touchdown.)
That is beyond abysmal and downright criminal for any coaching staff. The only teams that were nearly as bad as the Bucs were the Lions and Browns, which lost 14 of their last 16 games when trailing in the fourth quarter.
The difference? The Lions have been in the playoffs. And they have a franchise quarterback. The Browns are so destitute for quarterback help, they shelled out millions of dollars for turnover-prone Josh McClown.
This galling stat must improve for two reasons: 1. “America’s Quarterback,” Bucs signal-caller Jameis Winston, simply cannot be any worse than McClown or what Josh Freeman was in his final hours as a Bucs quarterback.
The second reason? Jameis became famous for his second-half comebacks. Surely that will happen once or twice while he’s with the Bucs, shouldn’t it?
July 14th, 2015 at 9:53 am
“America’s Quarterback,” Bucs signal-caller Jameis Winston, simply cannot be any worse than McClown or what Josh Freeman was in his final hours as a Bucs quarterback.
The second reason? Jameis became famous for his second-half comebacks. Surely that will happen once or twice while he’s with the Bucs, shouldn’t it?
YES! 10-6 baby!!!!
July 14th, 2015 at 9:54 am
I got a better idea: get the lead and don’t lose it!
July 14th, 2015 at 10:44 am
That’s because if we did get the lead in the 4th quarter or any other quarter we got super conservative by running outside once up the middle once and threw a duck pass on 3Rd and long went 3 and out every time gave the defense no time to rest and with no pass rush teams picked us apart that was the story of our life last year now I ask did anyone else not see the same thing???
July 14th, 2015 at 10:52 am
TopCoach
I saw the same thing!
July 14th, 2015 at 10:55 am
When a team loses often in the 4th quarter, you have to suspect their conditioning.
July 14th, 2015 at 11:32 am
If Jameis leads wins coming from behind Buc fans will expect that in every game the Bucs trail, that is some pressure and will be exciting to see happen. Or the Bucs could lead the entire game going away. Either way the anticipation is bordering on antsy. Is it soup yet?
July 14th, 2015 at 11:35 am
Chris the problem lies in the coaching. Once we get a lead they call conservative plays and try to coast threw. Lol what I would love to see is we embarrass teams as they have done to us in the past 42-3 etc. blow them out. Not just be conservative and hope we win by a touchdown. Because with teams like New England, Seattle, Denver, saints etc you have to keep scoring. If we can’t figure that out this year we are doomed by the conservative nature of this coaching staff. DAMN I MISS CHUCKY!!!!!!!!!
July 14th, 2015 at 11:41 am
With the human turnover Josh Mccown under center, I cant blame the staff for going conservative. I can, however, blame Lovie for bringing in Mccown in the first place
July 14th, 2015 at 12:04 pm
The second reason? Jameis became famous for his second-half comebacks. Surely that will happen once or twice while he’s with the Bucs, shouldn’t it?
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IMO, Jameis had LOTS of help, but he seemed to be the one that got them into trouble in the first place with all those interceptions.
From the story about the arrest of Dalvin Cook on Sports Illustrated:
“Without Cook, the Seminoles might not have won the ACC title in 2014. They almost certainly wouldn’t have made the first College Football Playoff. Cook’s freshman numbers (170 carries, 1,008 rushing yards, eight rushing touchdowns) were excellent, but his value goes beyond that. When the Seminoles were most in danger of losing in the regular season, they leaned on Cook the most—and he bailed them out. When Florida State trailed in its first 13 games, Cook carried 36 times for 344 yards (9.6 per carry), ran for six touchdowns and had 13 runs of at least 10 yards and six runs of at least 20. For a program that has had 29 players drafted the past three seasons and an offense replacing its quarterback and four starting offensive linemen, Cook was one of a few sure things on the field for 2015.”
29 players good enough to be drafted by the NFL over the last three years.
Their collective talent was ALWAYS better than their opponents.
tickrdr
July 14th, 2015 at 12:10 pm
Yet and still many refuse to accept my tanking theory.
July 14th, 2015 at 12:18 pm
McCown was still playing QB therefore the tank was on.
Ummm Joe I can’t stand to look at McCown anymore.
So I have a request. Can you please stop posting pictures of this poser?
July 14th, 2015 at 12:25 pm
He who shall not be named or seen.
Tickrdr – you are spot on my friend. Let’s hope for the best out of Martin.
July 14th, 2015 at 12:29 pm
“29 players good enough to be drafted by the NFL over the last three years.
Their collective talent was ALWAYS better than their opponents.”
Tickrd…did it ever occur to you that Jameis was one of those talent?
July 14th, 2015 at 12:59 pm
StPeteBucsFan …I’m as optimistic as you right now…but with just a little caution.
July 14th, 2015 at 5:04 pm
WS99 Says:
July 14th, 2015 at 12:25 pm
He who shall not be named or seen.
Tickrdr – you are spot on my friend. Let’s hope for the best out of Martin.
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Thank you for the kind word, WS 99! I agree that if Martin averages 9.6 yds per carry, and scores 6 TDs in the fourth quarter, Jameis and company should do OK.
BTW, i must be totally out of the loop, since I certainly do not know “He who shall not be named or seen”. How about a hint please, my friend?
tickrdr
July 14th, 2015 at 5:13 pm
Buc1987 Says:
July 14th, 2015 at 12:29 pm
“29 players good enough to be drafted by the NFL over the last three years.
Their collective talent was ALWAYS better than their opponents.”
Tickrd…did it ever occur to you that Jameis was one of those talent?
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Of course I agree that Jameis was also one of those talents, and maybe even the most talented out of all those players. But, I suspect none of their opponents had anywhere near the OVERALL talent level that the Seminoles had on their roster. Therefore, maybe some of those games should have been easy wins without the turnovers, but became come-from-behind victories because of the early interceptions. Then when they turned it on in the second half, they simply outclassed their inferior competition. It is exactly the same argument the Joes make about Ali Marpet excelling against small school talent.
tickrdr
July 14th, 2015 at 8:30 pm
He who shall not be named is the guy who started at qb for us last year. And it’s not mike Glennon. You ever seen Harry Potter?
July 14th, 2015 at 9:07 pm
tickr tickr tigger,C’mon man I would hope you better than that statement. Cause it was hella assinign. WINSton will go down as the greatest Seminole home boy. I assure you.
July 14th, 2015 at 9:15 pm
Like it was Jimmy Johnson’s fault he assembled a roster more potent than anybody else in the 90s shame on his cowboysfor kicking so much a$$.
July 14th, 2015 at 10:12 pm
Nole that was pre-free agency though right?
July 14th, 2015 at 10:15 pm
tickrdr…I hear ya and I also saw what Dalvin Cook did for that team. He was like a lightening rod for the Noles in the 2nd half of the season once they got their shyte together on that o-line.
July 14th, 2015 at 10:30 pm
I understand where you’re coming from 87,my point to tickr is it’s not the fault of the team if they are highly productive as a team because they’ve somehow someway came together. Those kids were recruited and decided on going to FSU. To diminish the production their after to me is trivial at best. I would better accept him stating that about the 2013 team which was loaded with talent. And ultimately won a chip as result. I mean does tickr find fault with Nick Saban and what he accomplished with his highly talented Alabama rosters. Just curious.
July 14th, 2015 at 11:32 pm
@WS99: Thank you for letting me know whose name I shall not mention! I sure am obtuse, because I sure don’t get the Harry Potter reference though.
@NOS-BOS and Buc 1987:
I absolutely, certainly do not find any fault, and actually congratulate the Seminoles for recruiting such a powerhouse team, and they deserve all of the accolades they have received. But you are somewhat missing my point. Their AGGREGATE talent was much better than ALL of the teams they played. They (FSU) had 29 players drafted by the NFL over the last three years. Of those, there were 6 first rounders, 7 second rounders, 2 third rounders, and 3 fourth rounders…………. that’s 18 players drafted in rd. 4 or BETTER. Of the teams on their schedule last year, there were 20 Gators drafted over the last three years, but only 12 total in those upper rounds. Notre Dame, Louisville, Clemson, and Miami (Fl) had HALF as many players drafted by the NFL as FSU, and all the other teams had only a handful compared to the Seminoles. The FSU freshman team could probably beat many of the teams on the varsity schedule. Oregon had a respectable 14 players drafted in the last three years, and won the Rose Bowl 59-20.
So back to my original point, I am not surprised that Jameis and FSU had so many comeback victories, but I remain concerned that they shouldn’t have been so behind in the first place (i.e. turnovers), and that they simply had to “turn it on” in the second half against much inferior competition.
tickrdr
July 15th, 2015 at 8:06 am
Better understand where you’re coming from now tickr,as for the Oregon game I still find it somewhat strange how all of a sudden FSU turned into fumblidous university but that’s a whole other convo. As for turn over in previous game I’ll say this and you’ll probably not buy it but oh well. Theirs this term called “point spread”. It exist for a reason.
July 15th, 2015 at 1:11 pm
tickdr…I understand your concern and I don’t think it will wane anytime soon.
Because what we have now at QB is a black Brett Favre, a gunslinger. So your worries might not fade so soon. I think Jameis will adjust to the speed of the NFL by week 5 or so. It’s gong to be fun to watch either way.
July 15th, 2015 at 3:11 pm
I love that Black Bret Farve analogy 87. Cause that’s exactly what he is.