And Here Comes The Jameis Winston Lawsuit
April 16th, 2015
Joe doesn’t expect this old news turned new news to alter the smiles at One Buc Palace
UPDATED 6:50 p.m.: Yes, Jameis Winston, the prospective Buccaneers quarterback, is officially an accused rapist once again.
The expected civil suit from Erica Kinsman, the former Florida State student who alleged Winston raped her in 2012, arrived today. Per Matt Baker of the Tampa Bay Times, a suit was filed in Orange County “over claims of sexual battery, assault, false imprisonment and “intentional infliction of emotional distress arising out of forcible rape.”
So now what?
There’s a zero percent chance Winston tries to settle out of court before the NFL Draft, which is in 14 days.
For those just starting to pay attention, the Bucs and the free world know all about this case. Winston has never been arrested for rape, will not be charged by the State Attorney, and was cleared by his school. Winston says it was simply a consensual encounter. The details of the alleged victim’s story are messy at best.
ProFootballTalk.com notes the lawsuit references an alleged second person who accused Winston of rape. “On October 25, 2013, Plaintiff’s victim advocate at FSU informed her that a second woman had come forward and reported being sexually assaulted by Winston.”
This second accuser also is nothing new to the story, assuming it’s the same “second accuser.”
Joel Glazer, proud member of Team Glazer, told Joe at the NFL Owners Meetings that the Buccaneers are very comfortable making Winston or Marcus Mariota the face of their franchise. Glazer cited deep research into both young quarterbacks, including face-to-face meetings with ownership.
Joe doesn’t expect cold feet for Winston at One Buc Palace, but you never know.
April 16th, 2015 at 6:52 pm
Wow. She’s at it again. Like wth! U have lost twice now. The 3rd time isn’t always gonna be the charm. It’s over.
April 16th, 2015 at 6:52 pm
Maybe because Mariota was the intended pick all along?
April 16th, 2015 at 6:52 pm
Told u this would resurface. draft the best player in the draft Williams or trade down. Period.
April 16th, 2015 at 6:53 pm
Yes, everyone knew it was coming….question is, how much of a distaction can it be plus, according to PFT, mention of a second alleged victim….
Good thing there are two Joes, one on the field, one in the courtroom….
April 16th, 2015 at 6:53 pm
BTW it alleges two different women have been assaulted. No way this guy should be in our city!
Why not trade for your beloved Johnny F? LOL Joe knows QBs
April 16th, 2015 at 6:54 pm
Go jameis it’s your birthday ! Coming To Tampa can’t wait to see you ball out
April 16th, 2015 at 6:56 pm
This is beyond predictable, especially if you actually read the details of the case. I’ll be completely honest, before I researched this case, I thought he was guilty. I unfairly labeled him guilty without any knowledge of the case. I believe I may have even called him a rapist in a post towards Buc1987. I was an idiot. As I became more educated, I saw how ridiculously weak her case was. Now maybe he did do it, but the evidence sure doesn’t point that way. Aside from her word (against his), there isn’t any proof whatsoever of a sexual assault. Now this girl appears to be looking for her pay day. Now cue the same Winston haters to pile on. We all know its coming.
April 16th, 2015 at 6:56 pm
Wonder if the bungling/cover up TPD is being sued too…of course this will be a HUGE distraction and something that Jameis will always be associated with…
Jameis has on field question marks too….no way I’d draft Jameis
April 16th, 2015 at 6:56 pm
Don’t you mean bailout Strider???
April 16th, 2015 at 6:57 pm
No Way are we taking him now…. I hope I’m wrong, because I believe the kid can be a special quarterback, but the entire organization is gonna take a tremendous amount of heat if the select him #1.
This is gonna make me sick if we take Mariota simply because of this latest lawsuit, which could be nothing more than a giant money grab. I’m not saying it is, but the timing seems awful strange. If she waits, she could get a bigger settlement, but by doing it now she’s laying some real hurt to the start of his NFL career.
April 16th, 2015 at 6:59 pm
That was supposed to read bail out as in bail out of jail. Droid auto correct.
April 16th, 2015 at 6:59 pm
“We’re comfortable with Jameis Winston being the face of our franchise.” -The Glazers
That was said while knowing that this civil suit was coming down the pike…
This changes nothing. Anyone that thinks it does is another Barry or possible even more idiotic, IF that’s actually possible.
Then again this thread will be filled with idiotic posts anyways…
April 16th, 2015 at 6:59 pm
TRADE THE PICK NOW!!!
April 16th, 2015 at 6:59 pm
tgreg Says:
April 16th, 2015 at 6:53 pm
BTW it alleges two different women have been assaulted. No way this guy should be in our city!
Why not trade for your beloved Johnny F? LOL Joe knows QBs
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Allegations and convictions are 2 different things. He will be in pewter and red in my opinion
April 16th, 2015 at 7:00 pm
Katie Hnida is quoted as saying “Here’s the largest problem with this and the public forgets this: [Winston] was not exonerated. He did not go through trial and proven not guilty. Insufficient evidence does not equal not guilty.”
The problem I have with that is that I can accuse anybody of anything and not have sufficient evidence. Does that make them guilty of my false accusations? At what point can the accused prove that the accusations are false?
April 16th, 2015 at 7:01 pm
jb…this is NOT new, news.
I’m staying out of this thread for the night. This is pointless.
Jameis Winston WILL be a Buc and that’s that.
April 16th, 2015 at 7:03 pm
Now we get to hear ALL of the same stupid comments on both sides all over again! Whooopeee!
April 16th, 2015 at 7:05 pm
leonard Williams is the best interior defensive lineman in the draft. he uses strength and power not speed. he can play many positions on the d-line. he is best suited for a 3-4 defense. his lack of speed does not suit well on the edge. watch his tape from the nfl combine he was very slow. the best edge rusher in the draft is from Nebraska randy Gregory. he has failed numerous pot using drug tests including one at the combine and is probably going to be suspended several games in the nfl. he also might need rehab. that leaves the best trouble free edge rusher the guy the bucs brought in a couple of weeks ago dante fowler the florida gator.
April 16th, 2015 at 7:09 pm
Nobody is going to draft a Gator first after what happened this week.
April 16th, 2015 at 7:10 pm
Can Winston counter-sue right now or does he have to wait until he wins her civl lawsuit?
April 16th, 2015 at 7:11 pm
I’m glad the Bucs have put out a statement on this. I’m sure they knew it was coming. I’m ready to order my jersey as soon as his name is called.
April 16th, 2015 at 7:15 pm
Oh, team Glazer told you they were comfortable with Winston. I suppose it never crossed your mind that they would be less than truthful to you, especially prior to the draft?
I have been worried this whole time that Winston would not be a Buccaneer come April 30 and this continues to fuel those concerns.
But hey, team Glazer told you they are comfortable so I should just believe that and not worry!
April 16th, 2015 at 7:17 pm
Wish he had video of incident in his dorm and was fully exonerated… jameis needs a ray donovan to make this cash grab go away…. not sure what the entire situation was on that nite but im sure there has to be some video from the party or some point of the nite to show some side of the story
April 16th, 2015 at 7:18 pm
Of course Buc1987 says he will satay out of this thread. He has enough sense to remember that he wasn’t there and doesn’t know what happened. In fact, I hope he won’t make more asinine posts like he did before:
“Marcus Mariota is a rapist!”
Buc1987
When he did I asked, ..” why someone hasn’t played the same trick on Mariota in the real world,as you are implying must have been played on Winston, the next “Face of the Bucs”?”
When I didn’t hear back from the poster with the 1987 size man crush, I added some more information from law enforcement in our state:
Says, Willie Meggs, Florida State Attorney: “he (Winston) was not exemplifying great character that night, no matter what the facts are.”
About the investigation he said, “Anybody, as my daddy would say, with one eye and half-sense knows there are some things that needed to be done that weren’t done (by law enforcement),”
He continues (with WanstaStayaBuc replacing “FSU” with “Bucs” and “student” with “fan”):
“I don’t hold out a ton of hope that anything is going to be done with this federal investigation,” he said. “It is a decision the Bucs has to make about who they want playing football and who they want for their fans.”
Ladies and Gentlemen, with the first pick in the 2015 NFL draft the Bucs pick……
You know who 1987 and JBF want, but how about you?
April 16th, 2015 at 7:19 pm
He can counter sue and spend time in court. However he has rookie camp coming up. Will be a distraction and could get messy. Of course the Bucs knew it was coming.
April 16th, 2015 at 7:19 pm
Where there’s a lot of smoke there’s a lot of fire. Let Publix enemy #1 go play somewhere else and suck the life out of their franchise. Bucs, stay far, far away from this A$$ Clown
April 16th, 2015 at 7:23 pm
I realize that there is an agenda to paint all college campi as places that are dangerous to women. It is a shame because now a real incident will be more likely discounted. The liberal media will glom onto this story because it is high profile. It certainly makes me suspicious…..Jamies has been cleared in a court of law, where facts are presented, not an agenda. I hope the Bucs draft him if they think he is the best QB.
April 16th, 2015 at 7:25 pm
DUSTHY
TPD could have had video but waited too long.
April 16th, 2015 at 7:25 pm
Bucs and every other team knew this was coming, just had to see the actual wording. Could be why they have not declared him their pick. I bet the phones at OBP have gotten very hot in the last hour. Pick Mariota, Williams ot trade the pick. Winston will be nothing but trouble wherever he goes. Coach and franchise killer
April 16th, 2015 at 7:27 pm
Laaame…money grab by a discredited rape accuser. He should counter sue for defamation of character.
April 16th, 2015 at 7:28 pm
SUPER MARIO!!! SUPER MARIO!!! SUPER MARIO!!!
April 16th, 2015 at 7:31 pm
@Coloradobuc
Winston attorney has stated that he would counter-sue when/if lawsuit materialized.
April 16th, 2015 at 7:33 pm
Maybe Winston can pay her off in stolen Crab Legs
April 16th, 2015 at 7:34 pm
@Bucs#1
“Publix enemy #1”
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Howard laughed.
Howard is very much OK w/ Mariota, and this was before the latest
round of drama. Remember Joes and Noles: Just one more significant
public issue with Winston and the team is left with nothing.
April 16th, 2015 at 7:36 pm
All of the folks on the Buc’s PR staff just stocked up on Red Bull and Jack Daniels
April 16th, 2015 at 7:36 pm
In other news: The justice system came down on Hernandez today
like a ton of bricks. Patriots and Gators are made to look like enablers.
April 16th, 2015 at 7:38 pm
Time for her to CASH IN.
April 16th, 2015 at 7:39 pm
@Joe
You need to learn the difference between being “cleared” and not being charged. The first “CAN” occur after a trial of one’s peers. The 2nd happens when there is not enough evidence. Dude, Joe has been an employed journalist at a major newspaper with responsibilities that included covering court cases, police reporting and other civil matters. Joe knows the difference. Perhaps you don’t, considering below you reference being “convicted” in a civil trial, which is not the correct language. –Joe
Now before the Winstonites come for my scalp I’m simply pointing out facts here not saying we shouldn’t draft Fameis, just that we should do so with open eyes.
And so O.J. was actually cleared in a criminal court of law. Then he was convicted in the civil trial that followed.
If Fameis does not settle this out of court and it goes to a jury then ANYTHING can happen just as it did with O.J. Everybody better hope that Kinsman is in it for the money. If she’s in it for real because she thinks she was wronged and now wants to “clear” her own reputation and forces this to a jury trial it could get truly ugly.
And so what would happen if it actually makes it to trial, wouldn’t take place for a long time, maybe right during the playoffs. What if the second woman testifies and it’s played out on the network news? What if a jury finds that Fameis did rape her?
The weight and presentation of evidence will be different. The rules of engagement which totally favored Fameis in any criminal accusations certainly shift.
And so a simple question. IF it goes to trial and Fameis is found guilty there would be no jail time just a financial award. But he would then be known as a “rapist” . Have any of you thought about that possibility and if that should happen are you still cool with having Fameis as the face of the franchise?
Just asking!
April 16th, 2015 at 7:40 pm
Yes! This was a strategic move coming to weeks prior to the draft which gives her side greater leverage power. Reminds me of Kobe Bryant, in the end victim gets a settlement and you never hear from them again. These young man are going to learn to start making these women sign confidentiality clauses prior to affiliating themselves.
April 16th, 2015 at 7:41 pm
@ Howard
Well said Sir
April 16th, 2015 at 7:42 pm
Just a thought but I wonder with this news possibly scaring a lot of teams off of Jameis and with the Bucs probably knowing his situation better than any other team, could the Bucs take the risk of trading down a bit and still pick up Jameis? I know the suit is BS, but just a though.
April 16th, 2015 at 7:44 pm
Howard saw this coming down the road like a freight train from miles away.
April 16th, 2015 at 7:44 pm
@Colorado Buc
At what point can the accused prove that the accusations are false?
At the point it goes to trial and jury of his and her peers decide! Somebody posted that Fameis plans to countersue. That would be one way to clear his name.
April 16th, 2015 at 7:44 pm
Ok guys. Im home from work now. Let all the Bucs discussions begin that don’t involve Winston or Mariota.
April 16th, 2015 at 7:47 pm
Accused of rape- were supposed to overlook it Tallahassee botched the investigation
Accused of rape #2- Buried again by Tallahassee
Crab legs- Not his fault
Shouting sexual obscenities while being investigated for rape- Just a kid
Only played 2 years- Yeah but it was a pro style system which always guarantees success.
Lead all college quarterbacks in interceptions – Receivers fault
Why are you people fighting for this piece of crap?
April 16th, 2015 at 7:49 pm
These young man are going to learn to start making these women sign confidentiality clauses prior to affiliating themselves.
Or….perhaps they’ll keep their buds from videoing which lends a tawdry element to the entire evening.
Or….perhaps if they do video they’ll save the evidence. In fact that may be the safest thing of all. Simply video the girl saying I’m cool with this!
April 16th, 2015 at 7:50 pm
It will be hard for the Bucs, or any team, to send their QB into the community on Tuesdays for PR and charity work when he’s in court defending himself of Rape/Sexual Assault charges or giving depositions. Try selling that to young families and fans with kids
April 16th, 2015 at 7:50 pm
Hey SPBF, you continuously put yourself out there to the Winstonites. I understand that you are merely playing Devil’s advocate and I never have been one for Hero Worship much. However there is a cult following around Winston that is unstable. Make sure none of em find out Where in St Pete, lol
April 16th, 2015 at 7:52 pm
That’s right! All they need is written consent and that makes the videos all admissible in any court of law
April 16th, 2015 at 7:53 pm
Someone here just compared a murder case to a rape case.
Hilarious.
April 16th, 2015 at 7:53 pm
The Glazer Boys and L&L probably did more research into this than Joe and the rest of the media, not to mention the fans.
They wouldn’t draft him if they didn’t see this pile of BS coming from a mile away. The chick is persistent, probably too prideful to admit that she lied about rape. It’s disgusting what women do these days.
Of course I wasn’t there that night. For all we know, she could be telling the truth, but I’d say with all this story changing and lack of evidence there is a VERY slim to none chance of that.
April 16th, 2015 at 7:56 pm
This doesn’t change anything for me. I stand by my original position that Mariota will be the pick.
#Mariotawasalockbeforethis
April 16th, 2015 at 7:57 pm
If this case does make it as far as court, and the second girl does actually show her face and testify as she said she would, then it’s over for Winston. Canadian League? Arena?
April 16th, 2015 at 8:03 pm
He could always play baseball.
April 16th, 2015 at 8:05 pm
Marcus Mariota: “To me I like to have a low key private life.”
I WANT A BORING QB!!!!
How many followers does Peyton Manning have on Twitter? Zero. How many Instagram post its does Peyton Manning have? Zero. Russell Wilson uses Twitter & Instagram. But he doesn’t post anything outlandish. All he’s ever doing is football work and helping people out in children’s hospitals and things like that. Boring is what you want with a QB. You just want your guy be committed, locked in a film room at 1AM on a Thursday breaking down coverage of the Chicago Bears. And that’s what you will get out of Marcus Mariota. Everybody in our generation is using or on social media (Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, etc.). And it’s interesting when you see a guy that’s not using social media, and that’s Marcus Mariota. We don’t really see what he does, and that’s a good sign. He wants to be a little private and that’s good, we don’t need to have you all over the place. He knows where his priorities are. Maturity is so important. He has it. Go Mariota!
April 16th, 2015 at 8:05 pm
Unfortunately the investigation wasn’t as good as it could have been….Winston would have been better served if it was. The destruction of the tape could have exonerated him, for example.
Now, he will always stand accused, perhaps of something he didn’t do. There is no way for him to proove he didn’t.
Going forward, he is a marked man and will have to be extremely careful with all of his relationships. He will likely be accused again…such is the nature of someone with fame & money added to a reputation for bad acts…even if those bad acts never occured.
Buc fans will constanly be defending Winston….I just hope he is worth it…and proves worthy of our choice.
April 16th, 2015 at 8:05 pm
That high pitched, airy sound we all hear is Winston’s draft stock deflating
April 16th, 2015 at 8:10 pm
In regards to Captain Crablegs, you know what they say about Leopards
April 16th, 2015 at 8:11 pm
Winston = Leaf
I am sure her lawyer told her that if she is caught falsely accusing Winston, she could end up in prison on several charges. That being said, if they produce the other victim and she testifies that Winston raped her, he is toast!!! Nothing would stop him from going to jail. The Bucs need to decide if Mariota is who they want or what they want to do and move on from Winston. This pick is to important to the long term success of the team.
April 16th, 2015 at 8:11 pm
SHOW ME THE MONEY! in by best EK voice 🙂
April 16th, 2015 at 8:12 pm
Pat
I’m with you 100%
April 16th, 2015 at 8:13 pm
“Greg Says:
April 16th, 2015 at 7:47 pm
Accused of rape- were supposed to overlook it Tallahassee botched the investigation
Accused of rape #2- Buried again by Tallahassee
Crab legs- Not his fault
Shouting sexual obscenities while being investigated for rape- Just a kid
Only played 2 years- Yeah but it was a pro style system which always guarantees success.
Lead all college quarterbacks in interceptions – Receivers fault
Why are you people fighting for this piece of crap?”
Exactly. Winston is a great prospect and I really wish he never had any of these issues. Would be a much easier decision then. We all forget this is a kids game. More kids play this game than adults. The most important part of this sport is teaching discipline, respect and working as a team. The people who grow up and are fortunate enough to have the skills to play proffesionally need to make sure they’re setting an example for the youth. Lovie Smith and Gerald McCoy are great examples of that.
April 16th, 2015 at 8:13 pm
The Bucs do know all about this; however you are belittling this issue. Do the BUCS really draft a QB with the possibility he actually did it? Even if he didn’t this could still be a game changer.
April 16th, 2015 at 8:14 pm
Lol, Robert is like a kid on Christmas morning.
April 16th, 2015 at 8:17 pm
Aww, no more delusional posts from 87 tonite?
How about pickgrin, tmaxon, ndog, etc….
Only a raving lunatic would try say that we are absolutely still drafting Winston…. It wasn’t likely before this happened, now the chances have dropped even further.
#HelloMarcusoursavior
April 16th, 2015 at 8:18 pm
Leonard Williams looking really good about now
Ryan Leaf + JaMarcus Russell + Byron Leftwich + Vince Young = Jameis Winston
April 16th, 2015 at 8:24 pm
And now you know why so many teams want to trade up for Mariota and not Winston. They don’t want all of the baggage and future headaches
April 16th, 2015 at 8:25 pm
I find the “cashing in” comments a little offensive. No woman would want to go through all this hassle, unless she’d actually been raped. And again, her allegations go back to before she had any idea he was a football star. So, unless she’s actually mentally ill, it’s a little bit of a stretch for me to believe that there was no assault… and I say this as someone who has developed more of an appreciation for Winston… but I can’t ignore this situation with the psycho-money-grab dismissal. I don’t think the Glazers want any part of this.
April 16th, 2015 at 8:27 pm
The large majority of Buc fans DID NOT want Winston to be drafted here before this came out today, now that number will be staggering. Bucs, your move
April 16th, 2015 at 8:28 pm
Relax. This is NOT a criminal case. It’s all about $$$$.
90% chance it will be settled out of court. 10% chance it goes to court, would be interesting to see if she can pull this off.
Oh, Bucs and every other NFL knew this was coming. So, nothing new.
April 16th, 2015 at 8:28 pm
Jameis Winston will be the pick, Tampa get ready to be back on the map! & lets please all remember that this is a Tampa chick, enough said! No credibility folks!
April 16th, 2015 at 8:33 pm
Erik…have my jersey ready!
April 16th, 2015 at 8:33 pm
With all of the talk from the Bucs about Character, and cleaning out the locker room of all of the bad character guys, drafting Winston would make the Glazers look very Hypocritical
April 16th, 2015 at 8:40 pm
If the leadership of a pro football team endorses a player a month before the draft to the local sports media it must be true, right Joes?
April 16th, 2015 at 8:43 pm
Its not just the legal problems, his kid has a big problem with interceptions. Great article http://nflbreakdowns.com/jameis-winstons-18-interceptions-2014/
April 16th, 2015 at 8:44 pm
*This
April 16th, 2015 at 8:44 pm
I see all the talk about Winston’s buddies destroying video but no mention of the accuser destroying her social media accounts and other communication. Evidence is a two way street.
April 16th, 2015 at 8:44 pm
Joe knows the difference. Perhaps you don’t, considering below you reference being “convicted” in a civil trial, which is not the correct language. –Joe
Ok I’ll stand corrected on the terminology surrounding “civil” trials.
Can you do the same? Do you stand by your statement that Fameis has been CLEARED?
Or do you disagree with Katie Hnida?
Katie Hnida is quoted as saying “Here’s the largest problem with this and the public forgets this: [Winston] was not exonerated. He did not go through trial and proven not guilty. Insufficient evidence does not equal not guilty.”
April 16th, 2015 at 8:45 pm
Welcome to Tampa Jameis Lovie needs you.
The only surprise is why they didn’t wait a little closer to draft day for more publicity.
Now the entertainment begins I wonder which of her lies she is going to use.
April 16th, 2015 at 8:46 pm
This is what I’ve been trying to say from the word jump. Why!!?? If the Bucs thought Mariota is 90percent of a QB as Winston is and maybe better than him in a year or two would they even consider Winston?? You take the guy who will make us proud to call him ours! Period!! As fans we shouldn’t want the embarrassment that will come along witb picking Winston. There are plenty of coaches and people in the know with football that believe Mariota will be specia! Trust in them and put your allegiance aside just for a moment please. This is not a Mariota vs Winston debate any more. It’s a what’s right for a franchise, a city, and a fanbase. If the Bucs pick Winston I’m very comfortable is saying we would be the only franchise that would do such a thing with the #1 overall pick.
April 16th, 2015 at 8:50 pm
SHOW ME THE MONEY! in by best EK voice
Let’s all hope, at least those who want Fameis, that you’re correct.
Ben Roethlisberger made two “accusations” go away with $$$. That is the best possible outcome for Fameis and the Bucs.
April 16th, 2015 at 8:52 pm
jameis will be the pick.
you do not need to be cleared of an allegation…lmao
April 16th, 2015 at 8:52 pm
Oddly enough I get embarrassed by going 2-14 and getting shut out on national TV 56-0. But what do I know? And if u kids tink Mariota is the next Aaron Rodgers you in for a very very very long season.
April 16th, 2015 at 8:54 pm
mariota is not 90% of the qb winston is and will not be better. sensible people with eyes know this.
April 16th, 2015 at 8:54 pm
Theres no way in hell the Glazers take on this nightmare.
April 16th, 2015 at 8:56 pm
Interesting article Sam. Looks a lot like Mccown last year. But with a worse Oline and against better defenses. If we were looking for a QB to throw picks we should’ve kept Josh. Bet Glennon doesn’t throw 18 picks as a starter this season!!!
April 16th, 2015 at 8:58 pm
Same sh*t different day from the same morons on here daily. For all you morons out there what is different about this than any other thing that was said before today? That’s right nothing, however my question is if he goes through this unscathed will you then shut your mouths and admit you were wrong? Of course not because you have already made your determination regardless of the facts involved. That’s why all of you are so clueless, you don’t research before making your uninformed comment.
April 16th, 2015 at 8:59 pm
Welcome to ‘Murica.
If you ain’t found guilty cause we can’t prove it…
You’ll just be guilty cause we thunk you done done it.
April 16th, 2015 at 9:00 pm
there might be “more” than 2 women involved. this might turn into a bill cosby situation. women handle situations different than men. if there are others this will give them confidence to come forward and they will not have to stand alone. I had posted a comment last week I hoped this other woman situation would come out before the draft. it gives the bucs time to reevaluate their draft choices or trades. it is better for the bucs this came out. GO BUCS!
April 16th, 2015 at 9:00 pm
karma is a b*tch!
April 16th, 2015 at 9:01 pm
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Does Jameis Winstons bank account represent a distraction for his teammates? Does it represent much of a distraction to Winston? The lawyers will do their thing, the football players will do theirs, and the critics will pretend Winston did something new.
Yawn.
April 16th, 2015 at 9:02 pm
@ndog
Perception is reality.
April 16th, 2015 at 9:03 pm
Horrible timing for Winston and I’m sure that was by design. I still want us to draft Winston, but Its with a lot less gusto now. I also still think the bucs will pick him.
April 16th, 2015 at 9:03 pm
I like the timing of this,it will make all you marita and trade down mongers have even more difficulty swallowing that pill call Jamies WINSton first over all.
April 16th, 2015 at 9:03 pm
Hahahaaaaa…. Winstonites are literally just trolling now. I luv it. U guys are silly.
April 16th, 2015 at 9:04 pm
Yeah Sam great article but they missed all the touchdowns and ridiculously great throws that lead FSU to all those wins over thelast two years. Again just ignore facts and drive home your blinded narrative.
April 16th, 2015 at 9:04 pm
So what you willing to wager erik the wise man?
April 16th, 2015 at 9:06 pm
Yep, draft the Crab Legs Rapist and become even more of a laughing stock. Bucs, stay far away from Jameis “The Hunting Ground” Winston
April 16th, 2015 at 9:07 pm
Yes Erik….do you want to double down?
April 16th, 2015 at 9:08 pm
Or anyone else?
Anyone want to make a bet that Winston’s STILL the pick?
April 16th, 2015 at 9:11 pm
she looks like a sweet blonde college student. I feel bad for her if the transcript I read of an interview she did some time ago is true. she was very detailed about what happened. the drugging of her drink. sounded like a roofie and the several rapes she had to endure. the cover up she said occurred. pretty sad if all she wrote is true.
I searched google images : Erica Kinsman, a former FSU student
April 16th, 2015 at 9:12 pm
It has been said that; “Perception is reality”.
Who, what, where, when why is this second accuser? If she exists, JW is done.
Let’s take a SS with the first pick ;/
April 16th, 2015 at 9:15 pm
I wonder who is at the root of this case Surfacing now? What does the girl stand to gain by doing this now? Shouldn’t she have waited till he was the number 1 pick THEN file the suit?
CONSPIRACY ALERT:
Maybe a team like the Jets started the rumor hoping he falls like what happened to Sapp?
Now what would happen if say he fell to the 2nd round? Could he sue the girl claiming her false accusations cost him draft status and money?
April 16th, 2015 at 9:16 pm
Wagers?
Come on oh confident ones…
April 16th, 2015 at 9:20 pm
MM is STRONG SON!!…I am more accurate and am better at mid to long range passes than JW. Cant wait to throw to Mike and Vincent.
April 16th, 2015 at 9:21 pm
In my eyes, the crab legs showed Winston’s true character. He could have easily thrown his teammates and school under the bus but he took one for the team. People can hate him and make all kinds of jokes but most people who really want to know, understand that it was a hookup.
The rape allegation is totally bogus. Once the jury sees the bruises on her knees, that will all go away.
So in the end, what are you left with? BB Guns and shouting a meme on some tables.
Welcome to Tampa Jameis!!!
April 16th, 2015 at 9:23 pm
MM will be sitting on the Jets bench next season…while Winston’s throwing TD strikes for the Bucs.
April 16th, 2015 at 9:26 pm
OMG …the idiots pulled me in again.
Why in the hell am I even talking about this ass clown Mariota?
April 16th, 2015 at 9:27 pm
No matter what I e-love you guys and still will after Draft Day!!!
GROUP HUG-
April 16th, 2015 at 9:29 pm
WOW……..My first post and I see 87 calling Mariota an “Ass Clown” and expecting people to expect his defense of Winston as gospel.
Just another day here at JBF
April 16th, 2015 at 9:30 pm
This is exactly what I was afraid would happen. Maybe you still take Winston if you’re damn sure there’s nothing to this case (and possibly the other they referred to), but then you start to worry if fighting this case (or cases) will be distracting to a rookie QB and the team that takes him? It’s very disconcerting. I’m all for Winston being innocent until proven guilty…BUT will this now become a huge distraction that makes selecting Winston counterproductive? I also wonder about this…IF Winston were to lose the civil case (and the amount of evidence need to convict in a civil case is LESS than what’s needed in a criminal case), would he be subject to disciplinary action by the NFL?
This makes me VERY nervous. If the Bucs are determined to take a QB at #1, Mariota may be the safer choice, even if it takes him a little longer to get his feet under him.
April 16th, 2015 at 9:32 pm
I can’t wait to see what that Winston jersey looks like when he’s playing in the Canadian league
April 16th, 2015 at 9:35 pm
@ Mr. Lucky
“Shouldn’t she have waited till he was the number 1 pick THEN file the suit?”
Thought about that, but would you have any doubts that its a money grab if that happened? I know I wouldn’t. This way they could put some distance between themselves and Winston’s big a pay day, and still have an opportunity to collect while not looking money hungry.
IMO if she really is a “victim” she should be looking to have Winston locked up, not trying to use this situation to make money.
April 16th, 2015 at 9:36 pm
No offense Mr. 87, but if there’s an A$$ Clown to be mentioned here, it’s YOU
April 16th, 2015 at 9:36 pm
The “Winston Wagons” are circled again…..and will be circled again and again.
I sure do hope he is worth it.
April 16th, 2015 at 9:41 pm
TBBF…….I really want to know what Pablo thinks here. Do you have his number?
April 16th, 2015 at 9:41 pm
To be honest, I don’t even care about the first bet I have going. The only reason I made the bet was to show how confident I am…. I will be so ecstatic when we draft Mariota that I already told 87 he doesn’t really have to buy me a jersey…. Although, I think he will just to honor the bet. Anyway, Mariota is highly likely to be the pick at this point in time…. Even more so bcuz everyone in the country thinks we’re picking Winston, that how L & L play the game.
#Maritaisvirtuallyalockembraceit
April 16th, 2015 at 9:41 pm
You people are so weak minded and just believe anything you are told. Comments like now I’m worried are just ridiculous! What has changed in the last 24 hours? They’re have been no additional proof just someone doing something everyone knew was coming. I love the perception is reality comment. So does the perception argument hold up with if someone tells 3 different versions of the same story then said person is a liar?
April 16th, 2015 at 9:42 pm
Only in ‘Murica.
Land of the brave and home of the free.
Innocent until proven guilty.
Blah, Blah Blah.
Unless you are Black.
Then you are just plain guilty.
April 16th, 2015 at 9:45 pm
To be honest, I don’t even care about the first bet I have going. The only reason I made the bet was to show how confident I am…. I will be so ecstatic when we draft Mariota that I already told 87 he doesn’t really have to buy me a jersey…. Although, I think he will just to honor the bet. Anyway, Mariota is highly likely to be the pick at this point in time…. Even more so bcuz everyone in the country thinks we’re picking Winston. And even more so bcuz of the potential distraction of an ongoing trial. Whether he did anything really bad or not. Wise the F up, people. <——– That's how L & L play the game.
#Maritaisvirtuallyalockembraceit.
April 16th, 2015 at 9:45 pm
According to Peter King, after doing his QB camps, Jon Gruden said he prefers Mariota over Winston
So now bring on the negative Gruden comments, lol
April 16th, 2015 at 9:46 pm
Justice for a rape should be jail time, not a pay day. So if the “victim” really wants justice, than that’s what she should be fighting for. Am I right or am I wrong?
April 16th, 2015 at 9:46 pm
The quote should be *your* perception is *your* reality.
April 16th, 2015 at 9:48 pm
All I know is someone is going to draft winston. Rex will snatch him up in a heart beat.
April 16th, 2015 at 9:49 pm
Oh man, sitting here looking at all this is like watching Atheists and Christians going at it. It just never ends.
Joe oughta be sponsored by Energizer and get that rabbit in here.
April 16th, 2015 at 9:50 pm
Why haven’t Bucs committed to Winston, the P.Manning/J.Montana hybrid? Why haven’t any NFL club even considered moving up for Winston, the P.Manning/J.Montana hybrid? I think it’s perfectly clear.
#DP #HGH #PEDs #MushBrainRetard
April 16th, 2015 at 9:51 pm
In other words anyone with a will to win football games will draft him. That in itself may disqualify lovie smith and Jason licht.
April 16th, 2015 at 9:51 pm
Again, as usual, something concerning Winston has turned his supporters into enablers, apologists, defense attorneys, etc. When are you people going to learn?
April 16th, 2015 at 9:52 pm
@Mr Lucky
Could he sue the girl claiming her false accusations cost him draft status and money?
It’s America the most litigious society in the world. Yes he can sue anybody can sue. 87 could sue for his hurt feelings. Problem is that going to court opens up a real can of worms or should I say a can of subpoenas.
Starting with Fameis buds. Question number one. Is it true you videoed that evening. Question two why did you erase that video? Question three. Wouldn’t that have cleared your friend?
There will not be witnesses like Luther and tasteless comments about bruises on her knees.
I can promise you that Fameis attorneys do not want this in a courtroom. Nothing good can come of it.
April 16th, 2015 at 9:54 pm
Dave Pear…… I now have new found facetious respect for you
April 16th, 2015 at 9:54 pm
Read it and weap Joe. Told you we were taking Marcus. Lol
April 16th, 2015 at 9:56 pm
I hope we don’t draft Mariota because in MY opinion he will be the BUST of the 2. He’s not going to be the pick anyways. It WILL be Jameis.
So I have no problem with calling the future Jets benchwarmer an assclown.
Anyone that does is just a little too sensitive(Nuckinfutz) and maybe needs to change their tampon or take some Midol.
April 16th, 2015 at 9:57 pm
Stpete
Tasteless but facts nonetheless. Im sitting here asking myself if she was forcibly raped and held against her will why are there no other bruises than on her knees and elbows? Either way I’m not sure if im mad, sad, disappointed or pissed. Maybe all of the above.
April 16th, 2015 at 9:57 pm
Walkdaplank
Exactly. Winston may be the most Polarizing figure to have ever entered the NFL draft. Buc Nation having a Civil War.
April 16th, 2015 at 9:57 pm
I am ALL SET to talk about how we are going to fill our gaps at PR and Punter so Koenen can move on. Any Takers???
April 16th, 2015 at 9:59 pm
Kudos to you DB for Always keeping it real!
April 16th, 2015 at 9:59 pm
Uf
We cut a punter today but it wasn’t the overpaid garbage punter.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:01 pm
Speaking for Pablo
“Pablo thinks the Winson Rape Suit should be carried live on ESPN & Telemundo instead of on Court TV…..commentatiors can uses football terms to describe the proceedings….like “She pounded the rock” “He fed the tight end”…..Pablo is sad that the video was destroyed. Pablo wanted to see it real bad”
April 16th, 2015 at 10:02 pm
I hope that on the 30th that Mr. 87 has the Suicide Hotline on Speed Dial
April 16th, 2015 at 10:03 pm
Tampa Bay Times – Matt Baker Times Staff Reporter
Monday, April 13, 2015 9:11am
Mock Draft Monday: “Jameis Winston pulling away from Marcus Mariota”
The final tally: Winston 17; The field 0
ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr.: Winston. “Nothing to see here. I’ve had Winston going No. 1 overall since my first mock draft and I believe he’ll still be there in my final mock draft.”
San Diego Union-Tribune: Winston. “It appears the Buccaneers are comfortable with Winston, regardless of his off-the-field baggage. At very least, they’ve gone out of their way to make it appear that way.”
CBS/NFLDraftScout’s Dan Brugler: Winston. “Nothing has changed at the top. The Buccaneers have a need at quarterback and Winston is believed to be their target with the No. 1 overall pick.”
The Sporting News: Winston. “It seems clear that Winston to the Bucs is the only safe bet of the first round, but it’s not a lock quite yet.”
NFL.com’s Lance Zierlein: Winston. “Winston has warts, to be sure, but pairing him with Mike Evans could ultimately prove to be too enticing for the Bucs to pass on.”
Unchanged picks:
ESPN’s Todd McShay: Winston. “I think Mariota is still a possibility to be selected here, but purely from an on-field standpoint, I think Winston has a clear advantage. He is one of the best QB prospects to enter the league in the last 10 years in terms of the skills that translate to NFL success, including reading defenses, anticipating throws and delivering the ball accurately.”
CBSSports’ Rob Rang: Winston. “Winston essentially sealed his position as the top pick with a solid pro day workout.”
CBSSports’ Pete Prisco: Winston. “The Bucs are putting in a lot of work on the kid. I believe he is there choice and only an off-field misstep would change it.”
CBSSports’ Pat Kirwan: Winston. “Winston visited with the Bucs ownership…in hopes of convincing them he is not a risk.”
SBNation: Winston. “Winston will be the player they hitch their reputation to moving forward.”
Sports Illustrated’s Chris Burke: Winston. “Say what you will about Winston’s maturity, but he took the initiative to meet with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell recently and the league noticed.”
Yahoo! Sports’ Shaun King: Winston. “No matter what you hear, the Bucs are not trading the first pick and they are drafting Winston.”
NFL.com’s Bucky Brooks: Winston. “The 2013 Heisman Trophy winner is a perfect fit as the franchise quarterback in Tampa.”
NFL.com’s Daniel Jeremiah: Winston. “Winston is the top quarterback in this draft class, and he can be the long-term solution at the position for the Buccaneers.”
NFL.com’s Charlie Casserly: Winston. “Winston is a gifted talent. The question is, can you rely upon him?”
NFL.com’s Charles Davis: Winston. “The Bucs appear to believe that the ‘Jameis Winston Experience’ will lead them back to the playoffs in the near future.”
AND THEN OF COURSE YOU’VE GOT THE COMMENTERS ON JBF. They know so much more than ANY of those guys up top….
Ha ha ha ha ha!
April 16th, 2015 at 10:06 pm
@87
Anyone that does is just a little too sensitive(Nuckinfutz) and maybe needs to change their tampon or take some Midol.
Sadly you are becoming the blog joke. Here is the best description I can offer you on your last post. Courtesy of Wikipedia…
Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against unpleasant impulses by denying their existence in themselves, while attributing them to others.[1] For example, a person who is rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:07 pm
Pablo, don’t talk like that. You will make 87 all excited and he will have to go POUND THE ROCK himself!
April 16th, 2015 at 10:08 pm
Its not like you pick the crime, I pick the punishment. Rape should equally jail time. If you’re fighting for anything else, you’re not really a victim imo.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:08 pm
Bottom line if we draft Mariota we are all screwed for quite some time. That guy has bust written all over him, plus doesn’t he just seem fake and contrived to you? That Gruden special just made me really feel the guy is fake and to be honest I don’t even believe he loves football.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:08 pm
I’ll be at the draft party wearing my FSU Winston jersey and Buc hat. I won’t be back in here until late that night or the next morning.
Yes I’m wearing the jersey with confidence. I won’t be on the edge of my seat either…like some of you clowns.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:09 pm
The real question is how will the bucs fck this up too?
April 16th, 2015 at 10:10 pm
Joe…maybe you can answer this question….IF Winston is found guilty in a civil case…where the burden of proof is much lower than in a criminal case…can the NFL issue disciplinary action against Winston? Or are civil cases protected from these types of moves by the Commisioner and the league?
April 16th, 2015 at 10:11 pm
@UF Alum
Ready for bed depressed that the Lightning have lost game one after clearly outplaying Detroit outshooting them by a huge 3-1 margin.
Just wanted to congratulate you on the best posts of the night! 🙂
Perhaps you can pass out some of those chill pills. There is a group here who clearly need them. LMAO
April 16th, 2015 at 10:12 pm
Best case scenario, we find a way to trade for Kapernick. Well get a mobile qb that sucks and can’t win with a team full of probowlers and an actual legitimate rapist. That way everyone is happy, except me I’m never happy.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:15 pm
@Jeagan
You are making just too much sense. Be careful or you’ll incur the wrath of the Winstonites.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:16 pm
@jeagan1999
The NFl can act based on their own investigation. It doesn’t necessarily need a civil suit or criminal action to sanction or suspend a player.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:17 pm
Ok take Fowler and start glennon
April 16th, 2015 at 10:18 pm
I can find about 20 more mocks that have the Bucs taking Winston if anyone would like….of course none of that matters to the foolish.
When 30 plus mocks are saying the pick is Winston to the Bucs. They all can’t be wrong and YOU are right.
Mocks very rarely get the first pick wrong. Like it or not. That’s a fact Jack.
No worries on my end…none what-so-ever. Nothing’s changed. Well a few things have changed, we have a few more clueless posters now. Lot’s of “new” names already. I expect a helluva a lot more “new” names after they take Jameis.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:18 pm
Best decision BUCS could make is Mariota. Winston throws picks against the bottom ranked defenses? What’s he gonna do about NFL defense?
April 16th, 2015 at 10:20 pm
The problem with this is that the accuser doesn’t seem to be satisfied with anything less than a settlement or actual trial…..and we have no idea what sort of evidence is available to her.
There may not be enough evidence for her to win….but it could be real ugly evidence and a PR nightmare for Winston. Who knows?
With this suit and the Title 9 suit against FSU….there will be news on this subject for months….perhaps years.
It may be a distraction that the Bucs are willing to accept….but distractions are usually avoided by NFL teams if possible.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:20 pm
WS99
Let’s see Kaepernik reached the Super Bowl and then followed that up the next year with an appearance in the NFC championship.
Fameis has done NOTHING in the NFL other than in you Winstonites fevered dreams. He MAY be s good as you guys hope. He MAY yet be a bust.
But if you’re trying to peddle the manure that a Fameis gamble or a Mariota gamble for that matter is a better decision than grabbing a QB with PROVEN success I’m pretty amazed!
April 16th, 2015 at 10:22 pm
Damn Lightning and Rays always hanging on the edges of greatness!!!!! YET rarely achieving it.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:25 pm
@87
No worries on my end…none what-so-ever.
Then why don’t you post like someone who is not worried. You are the single most defensive poster here. Any disagreement with you brings charges of using feminine napkins. You go nukingfutz if anybody dares present any FACTS about your guy.
Perhaps TBBF is correct and you’re simply a poor winner. Nobody is going to accuse you of manners or sportsmanship that’s for sure.
If you’re so sure act like it and stop being so whiny and defensive!
April 16th, 2015 at 10:25 pm
@87
Here you go again!
You may be subpoenaed to testify as a Winston character witness…..you can quote all the mocks….as evidence that he at least should have been the #1 pick and Erica screwed it up for him. And if he is the #1 pick and doesn’t play well, she got in his head (instead of giving him head)
April 16th, 2015 at 10:26 pm
SPBF,
Wow!
Such vitriol.
Unlike you.
Are you OK?
April 16th, 2015 at 10:28 pm
WS99 Says:
April 16th, 2015 at 8:52 pm
Oddly enough I get embarrassed by going 2-14 and getting shut out on national TV 56-0. But what do I know? And if u kids tink Mariota is the next Aaron Rodgers you in for a very very very long season.
_______________________________________________________
So, with your rationale, you’re suggesting that Winston will have a great rookie season, and Mariota won’t? So give us a guess how many games Winston will win this rookie season? The only thing I can guarantee, and only if both QB’s get equal playing time, is that Winston will have more INT’s than Mariota. That’s a given …another given will be that Mariota will always lead Winston in all QB categories, just like he has all the way up to this point.
Winston is a P.O.N.T.I.A.C.
Mariota is a Ferrari !!!
April 16th, 2015 at 10:28 pm
@UF Alum
Gotta disagree on this one. I had season tickets the year the LIghtning won the Cup. I was there for game seven of the final series and even though I once worked in sports and have been to plenty of big events I’ve NEVER experienced the kind of electricity in the crowd that night.
There is nothing more stressful and dramatic for a fan than a game seven of the Stanley Cup Finals! Just awesome.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:29 pm
I dream of a day when I can tailgate and watch a Bucs game with TBBF, SPBF, DB, Nole on Sat, and Yes even 87
April 16th, 2015 at 10:30 pm
If Lovie and Licht want to be looking for jobs next year, they’ll draft Winston. Id be willing to be anything a month after this kid gets picked, hes back to being his old knucklehead self. Oh and Gruden just said he prefers Mariota.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:30 pm
@Dave Pear
Mea Culpa. Yeah too much vitriol from me. That Lightning loss wwas a bitter pill especially since we dominated the Wings everywhere but the scoreboard.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:31 pm
Speaking for Pablo
“Pablo really wants to see that video…..Pablo thinks Erica is hot….and Jameis is hot too…..Pablo liked the Pam Anderson & Tommy Lee video”
April 16th, 2015 at 10:34 pm
@87
Dave Pear was right. Apologies for making it personal. Not good on my part.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:36 pm
UF Alum,
I’m not invited to the tailgate party?
April 16th, 2015 at 10:36 pm
Whoa, 87 is having a meltdown…. Deep breaths, brother, deep breaths….
April 16th, 2015 at 10:38 pm
@UF Alum that loves the Bucs
Speakng for Pablo
“What about Pablo….Pablo sits well on tailgates…..Pablo sat on a avocado truck tailgae all the way from Juarez to Wichita….If you don’t want to sit with Pablo, Pablo thinks you could a racist like many in Montana”
April 16th, 2015 at 10:39 pm
Well I have tickets to Saturdays Lightning Playoff game. Gawd I hope we win that one or it’s going to be six playoff losses in a row!
I hope my nerves can stand it. I feel like 87 watching a Fameis trial on Court TV! Just funnin’ ya 87.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:40 pm
We know we got nothing but love for you SPBF. You also know I hate the hypocrisy. AD, Kap, Hardy, all would be welcomed with open arms. Why?
The 30/30 The U documentary. Part 1 and 2. All players agree, many of which are probowlers, it is hard to go undefeated in college football. This kid did it twice. That leads me to believe he can play and win.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:41 pm
@87
If you are so certain that Winston is the pick (and you are probably right) Why do you expend so much energy & perhaps emotion….supporting your certainty?
Relax….and just let it happen….you are certainly on record…the debate has been over for some time now….Winston is the pick.
Unless he’s not!!!
April 16th, 2015 at 10:46 pm
I would love to go to a game wit yu UFalum,I’m sure we would have a blast of a time. Maybe we can work that out for the up coming season. My only clause would be don’t get mad everytime time WINSton make a helluva play my man. Erik again,what you wanna wager?
April 16th, 2015 at 10:47 pm
@Greg
100%
April 16th, 2015 at 10:51 pm
OH SNAP!! I never meant to leave you guys out. Most of all Pablo. Pablo, hablo espanol de construcción. If you need a job just call.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:51 pm
Wow, this really is the silly season. I just saw a story on Yahoo where a guy said that the Bucs weren’t spending their cap money so they could use it to pay Jay Cutler and Adrian Peterson after Bucs trade for them. Geez
April 16th, 2015 at 10:52 pm
Ok guys. I’m going to do movie time with the Mrs.
Peace out my Bucs brethren.!
April 16th, 2015 at 10:52 pm
So. Am I invited?
Yo hablo espanol.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:53 pm
UF
You know I’m in. We gotta find a suite though. There’s someone in here with a suite. Just saying, would be nice. :p
April 16th, 2015 at 10:55 pm
Barry’s got a suite.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:55 pm
“Jay Cutler and Adrian Peterson after Bucs trade for them. Geez”
———-
That is the second time I heard that. Again, our WTF moment shall come soon.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:56 pm
@WS99
I agree. Certainly Fameis appears to be the real deal. I’m not as down on Mariota as many on this board however.
I tend to go with the prevailing consensus. Fameis is ready now and Marcus may need some time. I wonder however if the style of play isn’t coming to Marcus.
New rules in the NFL protect a mobile QB and encourage offense and not defense.
Having said that I’m not concerned about Fameis mobility. He’s slow but he’s slippery and can also move in the pocket.
For me the bottom line is that BOTH of these young men are excellent prospects. I simply do not see either QB’s supporters as morons or any other pejorative term.
Some pundit on either ESPN or NFL Net summed it up for me. This could be a draft like the one that produced Matty Ice and Flacco. Both QB’s are good and that could easily happen with Fameis and Marcus.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:56 pm
ROTF
April 16th, 2015 at 10:57 pm
A suite damn let ya boy get in.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:59 pm
SPBF
True story.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:59 pm
There’s the real SPBF.
Welcome back.
Sorry about the Lightning’s loss.
April 16th, 2015 at 10:59 pm
Oh please no, not Jay Cutler, ANYBODY but Jay Cutler. That guy is such a pos. IF we got him, it would challenge my abilities to be bucs fan anymore.
April 16th, 2015 at 11:01 pm
Lol, I’m telling you 87 is a lock for a press pass from Joe. And I THINK, correct me if I’m wrong, tickrdr has a suite. Damn, not to call him out. Lol. My bad!
April 16th, 2015 at 11:04 pm
Cap n coke for the qb Killa please n Ty.
April 16th, 2015 at 11:21 pm
The lawsuit was expected, but two things about it were not.
First, the timing. I think we all expected it to hapen AFTER Winston got his draft money.
Second, I only just heard of this, and channe 10 cbs is saying she is seeking $15,000 in damages. That is NOT a payday. In fact, it looks more like she just wants her day in court.
As far as the lawsuit itself, I’m not holding it against him because one was expected. However…
…something like this could make him drop to the bottomm of round 1 or even the top of round 2. That could open some possibilities,
For example, we could take OL and then trade back up into the first and take him.
April 16th, 2015 at 11:30 pm
87 isn’t having a meltdown. He’s being himself. Or do none of you remember his Josh Freeman days? You know, when he made signs to take to gaes in support of Josh, and freaked out when ople spoke against him?
April 16th, 2015 at 11:32 pm
Wow. Hard to type one handed while holding a woman in the other arm, with the tablt bouncing around.
April 16th, 2015 at 11:35 pm
Bonzai
The 15k is legal term according to sanders on bn. She wants 7 mill according to Winstons testimony. Then there’s this little nugget from ESPN:
” We finished the hearing today,” said David Cornwell, Winston’s attorney. “We’re pleased that it’s over. We know now what the game plan was because the only thing that we got were more inconsistencies and more lies. This process was about making a record to do as I have always said, taking this matter to civil court.
“We will do our best to shut it down with our briefs, and have Justice Harding conclude that Jameis didn’t do anything wrong. There certainly was no evidence in two days that suggested otherwise.” ”
Hell hath no fury …
April 16th, 2015 at 11:38 pm
I starting to think that God wants my Bucs to not ever have a franchise QB, lol! This thing screams money grab. The court should throw this out immediately
April 16th, 2015 at 11:39 pm
@ BB
Just read about it, it states that she seeks damages in EXCESS of $15,000 so its definitely more.
And It also said that Winston could not be charged criminally because of insufficient evidence. So the ability to put Winston behind bars doesn’t seem to be there. So what else is left? $$$. And she isn’t stopping with Winston, she’s going after the university as well. Think there’s money there?
April 16th, 2015 at 11:40 pm
We all knew it wasn’t going to be JW, lol…
#1-Rivers
#1-17-Flowers
#2-Owa-UCLA-DE
#3-Tre Jackson
#4-Adrien Amos-FS-PSU
#5-Andy Gillick-C-BC
#6-KR/PR
#7-FB/P
——————–If we get AP for a high pick next year its a wrap
April 16th, 2015 at 11:41 pm
retired Florida State Supreme Court Chief Justice Major Harding kinda already did. Could find enough evidence in either story to judge. Just saying …
April 16th, 2015 at 11:42 pm
We got to pass on Winston. I’ve been on the Winston bandwagon for the past couple of months. He is extremely confident (which I love) and he has a cannon. But lawsuits like this makes him a target for the rest of his life. I think we are nuts to bet on this guy when Mariota is right there with a clean track record. Mariota is extremely fast, a good size and very accurate. The fact he only threw like 13 picks in his collegiate career is nothing short of amazing system or not. The only knock is that he doesn’t know the pro nfl system. But he scored a 33 on that test. So surely he is is smart enough to learn the system. I think both Winston and Mariota are going to be good but the same bet is on Mariota because he is 6’3 and extremely fast. We know he’s gonna be better than Kaepernick. The media is a crazy smokescreen! The bucs need to take Mariota.
April 16th, 2015 at 11:42 pm
Andrew
FSU file for dismissal this week.
April 16th, 2015 at 11:51 pm
@ WS99
Ok… and rightfully so, but the fact is she’s trying to pad the bill.
April 16th, 2015 at 11:51 pm
Andrew, what’s left is a civil court ruling in her favor, giving her validation.
Keep in mind, she been called a lliar throut this. Maye she wants to prove she isn’t.
April 16th, 2015 at 11:57 pm
She will validate that she is a liar.
Which story will she tell?
Hit on the head?
Drugged?
Intimidated?
Drunk?
All proven false.
We call people like this….
Gold diggers.
Now I ain’t saying she’s a gold digger…
April 17th, 2015 at 12:00 am
She’s in line behind currency, that means she’s after money.
April 17th, 2015 at 12:07 am
@ BB
You’re not making any sense dude, at least not to me anyway. You say she’s seeking validation. And if she wins, I guess that means that people have to stop calling her a liar and thats it right? lol Or is it that she gets to collect from all those “slander’s” that’s really the driving force behind all of this. You saw what WS99 said, she’s looking for 7 mill! She’s looking for money dude, nothing to being gained by just trying to seek “validation”.
April 17th, 2015 at 12:10 am
Pay her off and lets start ballin’
April 17th, 2015 at 12:15 am
Kinda reminds me of the movie The Natural…. I hate to say this..because I’m a FSU fan….Trade for Rivers or trade down and draft Brice Petty….. saying this as a Bucs fan… I would rather wait for quality and wins. Pretty much over the drama..
April 17th, 2015 at 12:16 am
“…but it could be real ugly evidence and a PR nightmare for Winston.”
why, did they make up new evidence?
April 17th, 2015 at 12:33 am
The crazy part is that I actually want to believe her because rape is very serious and I can’t see how any girl would want to make up something like that. But now I really find it hard to believe because of where she has taken this thing. Regardless, no one will ever know for sure what really happened that night except her and him. Which is why I never wanted to get involved with this in the first place. Before today, I don’t know much about this case and I really wish it would have stayed that way.
April 17th, 2015 at 12:36 am
Mariotas character would probly school Winston’s character on madden 16… Wanna bet 87?
April 17th, 2015 at 12:52 am
Not sure how much it will cost the Glazers to add chastity belts to the official Buccaneers cheerleader’s uniforms? So is trading down or Leonard Williams starting to look more likely?
April 17th, 2015 at 2:04 am
@Commonsense,
I gave my friend a call, an FSU undergrad but a law graduate of reputable northeastern status, and sought some legal clarification….albeit, very unofficial. His response was interesting, basically saying the burden of proof in civil cases is very similar to that of what the Title 9 investigation was.
There is a strong probability that this civil suit will produce the same result that the title 9 investigation did.
April 17th, 2015 at 2:35 am
I just love how the hospital she went to for rape examination and blood work all came back negative. A Dr will lose his/her license to practice for lying about that, and get the crap sued out of them. She is not going after the Dr……..
April 17th, 2015 at 3:00 am
not yet…. I’m sure she’ll get there, but nobody will care by the time that happens.
April 17th, 2015 at 3:02 am
Will she have to testify? Will she be cross-examined?
April 17th, 2015 at 3:44 am
How about that timing? Reminds me of how sleezy politicians sometimes operate – releasing some type of late “October surprise” manufactured dirt on an opponent to influence the pending election.
This is nothing more than vindictiveness. Erica and her legal team have been playing the media and the uninformed public at large like a fiddle since mid 2013. What is truly insane is that it works on so many. Just like the numerous people on here saying something along the lines of – “I was on board with Winston – but NOW we definitely shouldn’t take him…”
Why. What’s different? Everything about this is 2 1/2 years old. There is nothing new here. It’s just the EK team dredging up the false accusations time after time after time in order to hurt Winston in the “court of public opinion”. She wants to hurt his public image as badly as she can and then try to get a big payday.
And since so many people are ignorant of the facts in this case – she is succeeding in negatively influencing Winston’s image.
But she will NOT get paid – and in fact is taking a BIG risk with this action. If this makes it to trial (which I hope it does) – Winston’s lawyers are going to expose her big time for the lying, money grubbing, cleat chaser that she is.
Off the top of my head I can name at least a half dozen major lies she has told regarding this matter. Lies proven via direct evidence that are central to the case and once fully exposed via cross examination (which she has never had to undergo) – will show beyond any shadow of a doubt that this rape accusation is completely bogus. I have detailed all these lies before as have others – so not gonna waste my breath doing that now. But it is sooo sad to see so many here and probably everywhere have their opinion of Winston negatively influenced by the timing of this civil suit announcement.
Bottom Line?
None of this matters. There is nothing new here. The Bucs know every detail about this that can possibly be known. And they are comfortable with the facts and comfortable in knowing that Winston is not a rapist and is not a “character risk”.
Winston will be the Bucs new QB. Nothing has changed.
And for the idiots talking out their a$$es in light of this “latest revelation” – put your $ where your mouth is!!! Name the amount of the bet. I bet on Winston as #1 pick to the Bucs – you can have the field.
Any Takers? I hope so – but surely doubt it.
Anyone not willing to bet should stfu if you are spouting off that you are sure someone other than Winston will be the pick.
April 17th, 2015 at 4:05 am
Winston has already been cleared by the same level of scrutiny that will be imposed in this civil case. The play is simple, this is the last opportunity that EK has at a settlement and shes taking her shot. Kudos to her? I guess? The problem is that the leverage she would normally hold is that of damaging JW’s reputation. Anybody with internet access knows that has already happened. Winston has nothing to gain by settling with this woman, so he won’t, nor should he. It will be a 5th consecutive ruling in JW’s favor…..
April 17th, 2015 at 4:13 am
apologies…4th consecutive ruling
April 17th, 2015 at 7:40 am
Andrew 1 Says
“She’s looking for money dude, nothing to being gained by just trying to seek “validation”.
As I said above, I was only just hearing of it and repeated what Channel 10 said (I actually named my source. Let that be a lesson to the local newspaper hacks). I’m not committed to being right where her motives are concerned.
However, that you cannot grasp what “validation” could mean shows you do not understand the plight of victims.
Consider this. What if she was actually raped?
I’m not saying she was, but in order to understand, let’s consider it for a moment. If she was actually raped, no one has believed her. You sit there, you look at the evidence presented, and you listen to the media, the ignorant and such, and you choose not to believe her.
Maybe her story has changed slightly. It happens when a person is recalling things that happen during stressful ordeals. We all know, the smallest variance would be exaggerated by the media. After all, they do it to everything else.
So, still assuming for a moment that she was raped, then when she put her trust into the college to believe her, they didn’t. Then the judge didn’t. She, a victim of rape, has been lambasted by the fans of Jameis Winston. By practically every FSU student. By most of the people here even.
Take the reactions here. People are not considering that she is a victim, but that she is a gold digger.
But I ask again, what if she was actually raped?
Put yourself into her position. This player, Jameis Winston, is getting away with things that he should not. She cannot get true justice, because it is her word against his. What recourse does she have?
You cannot understand this because you have to put yourself in her shoes.
It’s like someone in chronic pain. Pain is not visible, so the people around you have no reason to believe it’s as bad as you claim. But it is horrible. If there came a way to get validation, to prove your pain in some way, you would leap at it. Just to show others that you are not making excuses, faking it.
In her case, IF she was raped, no one has believed her. Validation through a civil suit is the only form of justice left to her.
Again, I’m not saying she was raped. I’m understanding that people can misjudge her motives. Maybe she made it all up, and maybe she didn’t. But what is disturbing to me is people’s rush to blame the victim.
All because Jameis is Famous.
April 17th, 2015 at 7:47 am
If Winston is drafted by the Bucs….. Here is our theme song
Hey hey hey, we’re the rape aneers (allegedly)
Ho ho ho we’re the rape aneers (allegedly)
Jameis Winston now he’s here to stay
Hide your daughters and lock your doors
A new day in Tampa Bay
April 17th, 2015 at 7:54 am
get yo money baby….that is if you can prove anything you say is true because so far you havent
April 17th, 2015 at 8:56 am
Bucs need to move on from this this guy caused these issues and fl st covered it up I would not touch this guy maybe its time to move down and get some pics bucs aren’t going to win many games either way
April 17th, 2015 at 9:15 am
@Erik TheWiseMM Man
Jameis will ABSOLUTELY STILL BE THE PICK
Notice that NFL.com and NFL Network has not even MENTIONED this new suit? Because even they knew it was coming and will not give it the light of day, as they shouldn’t.
You’ve got 13 days to find a nice rock to hide under.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:05 am
Actually briandorry, I heard it on Sirius XM on the NFL radio first. They were reporting it as breaking news. Of course that is radio versus the internet, but NFL definitely reported it. Also, if you go to NFL.com right now you will see it is right there. “Florida State’s Jameis Winston sued by sexual assault accuser”.
April 17th, 2015 at 11:22 am
There is NOT a second victim ( LIAR) simply a woman who claims to have had consensual sex with Winston and since the rape allegations she feels violated and has seen a therapist about it and wants to be a part of the love Sue so she can collect money to. yup that sounds legitimate wake up people this is getting ridiculous!! You can find me on Twitter as Bucsbabe I don’t have to hide behind anonymity
April 17th, 2015 at 11:24 am
and I meant lawsuit lol damn speak and text!
April 17th, 2015 at 12:12 pm
It takes just a few hours and a few hundred dollars to head downtown and file a lawsuit. It could have been filed at ANYTIME. This plaintiff’s choice of dates puts her motivations to suspect in my eyes. Looks more like she wants revenge rather than justice.
April 19th, 2015 at 10:30 pm
Okay now I’m REALLY going to try very hard TBBF….I WILL talk about football from now on and football only. No need to pay attention to these clowns, when Winston’s the pick anyways. Besides the closer we get to the draft they’re going to ramp up their nonsense, and we’ll get more and more “new names” on here left and right going on the attack. I just need to take a deep breath and sip my Devils Cut and just chill.
I CAN do this TBBF…