Sign Him!
March 5th, 2015Does Joe need to recount just how vomit-inducing the Bucs’ pass rush was (UH-gen) last year? It’s getting to be a laughingstock how this franchise simply cannot find a double-digit sack guy.
That leads Joe to Trent Cole, the recently released outside linebacker/defensive end formerly with the Eagles.
Cole used to be a dangerous pass rusher in a 43 front, but Bill Walsh Chip Kelly wants a 34 defense, and Cole’s dropped enough as an outside linebacker and he was released.
On WDAE-AM 620 this morning, Bucs beat reporter and host Tom Krasniqi made a strong argument for the Bucs to sign Cole, who is in Tampa today meeting with the Bucs.
“Is Trent Cole better than [the Bucs’] current personnel? The answer is yes,” Krasniqi said. “Is Trent Cole better than Michael Johnson? The answer is yes.”
To hear more from Krasniqi discussing the rest of the defense, click the red arrow below. Audio courtesy of Joe’s friends at WDAE-AM 620.
March 5th, 2015 at 3:45 pm
Yes! Please do
March 5th, 2015 at 3:50 pm
Sign him to a contract with modest base salary, but make it full of incentives that allow him to make big money if he has a a really strong season.
Can’t be overpaying FAs who are 32+ years old, no matter what they’ve done in the past.
March 5th, 2015 at 3:55 pm
Michael Sam is cheap and he can play. Just saying
March 5th, 2015 at 4:00 pm
I dont give a damn how old he is or how much yall think he deserves to make it aint our money if he is gonna sack the qb sign him!!! We’ll let him walk and someone else will sign him and he’ll kill us like Devin Hester did!!!
March 5th, 2015 at 4:04 pm
Baggage, but we can get Greg Hardy for a lot less and more production with something to prove. We invested in older pro-bowl free agents when Chucky was here and look how those panned out.
March 5th, 2015 at 4:07 pm
hardy over him all day
+ he looks like a DT in this picture. lol
March 5th, 2015 at 4:07 pm
Yeah look where that got us. Division titles and such……….
March 5th, 2015 at 4:11 pm
we need linebacker help! if you can sign him for cheap fine with incentives I agree. also hardy would be awesome but he has issues off field. but if were going to sign jw why not take a chance with hardy. but lovie and crew probably will not.
March 5th, 2015 at 4:14 pm
Brandon Graham will be available too, he’s solid and younger. I wouldn’t be against Trent Cole signing, though.
March 5th, 2015 at 4:15 pm
if they sign JW they may as well sign Hardy and AP
March 5th, 2015 at 4:21 pm
I’d take him. 15 sacks the last 2 seasons as OLB in 3-4. I’d assume he’ll not cost too much and maybe we can get him on an incentive based deal. Signing him is smart but only at the right price. He could be a rotational starter.
I don’t see why Hardy would be cheaper.. Even with violence issues.
This roster isn’t as terrible as people make it seem. McCOy/McDonald/David/Verner/Banks are all solid defensive starters; 2 All pros and Verner has been a probowler. We are missing a great DE, MLB, S but that’s about it for solid starters. Akeem Spence is solid DT. Most teams aren’t stacked at every position.
On offense we have WRs/TEs/RBs; and just need a good O-line and QB. Just 2 solid offensive lineman could drastically improve the line; and we have our choice of QB at 1.
My dream would be to somehow restructure Michael Johnson.
in FA – Sign a guy like Cole to be a rotational player; and continue developing guys like Gholston/Jaquis Smith.
Sign an OT or OG in their 20s that can be a solid starter at worst.
Sign a S if the right one becomes available (like dude from Pats).
Draft Winston #1.
Draft BPA – likely DE/OG/MLB/OT in round 2
Draft BPA – has to be O-line if went anywhere else round 2. Top of round 3 could and should produce a starting Offensive Lineman easily based on history.
BPA rest of draft
March 5th, 2015 at 4:21 pm
He’s not a olb, he’s a DE.
He’s a short fix at best at 32 and his entire career spent in cool Philly training camps. Better have great depth!
March 5th, 2015 at 4:22 pm
I don’t think it’s a great idea to sign him. Rather keep Claybourne and with the $ they save sign Hardy and let Johnson kick rocks.
March 5th, 2015 at 4:24 pm
I meant to add – if we do that approach to FA/Draft; then we can look at an elite DE in round 1 next year; because that will likely be the last MAJOR hole if we are able to address everything I stated. Could also grab an elite LT or whatever the next year if that’s not addressed.
Can’t get it all in one season but we can do a lot. The biggest reason for hope is a franchise QB though. That changes everything regardless of how sh$tty you think the line is
March 5th, 2015 at 4:27 pm
100% sign him…. Hell, get Hardy as well! Haven’t had an elite pass rush in over 10 years. Actually is laughable. I’m in New York and I’ve seen the Giants win a lot of Superbowls on paying serious attention to the pass rush!
March 5th, 2015 at 4:27 pm
We don’t need Michael Sam. We will already have enough going on with Winston and I don’t want more distractions not related to football. Sam will be ok on dancing with the stars.
March 5th, 2015 at 4:32 pm
You guys are all funny. According to all of the winstonians, we don’t need an offensive line, defensive line, special teams or even a coach for that matter (Jameis was yelling at Jimbo Fisher in the semifinal game because he was calling a horrible game and should have let Jameis call the plays, it’s in the archives look it up). All we need is Jameis Winston. All he did was win 26 games all by himself.
It’s comical all of the excuses they throw out for his performance last year. His offensive line was crap, his wide receivers were too young and caused nearly all of his interceptions. The only reason they had so many comebacks is because Jameis carried the team (yet he played the first half of all of the comebacks just like Josh Freeman dug the hole and had to dig out in the 4th quarter) If you say that Glennon had no chance with the offensive line we had last year. That is no excuse, he just sucks.
We might as well just resign Josh Freeman and the winstonites might just go away.
March 5th, 2015 at 4:34 pm
If even remember reading one WeighsaTONian comment that he probably had a higher football IQ than Jon Gruden. It’s in the archives. Funny stuff.
March 5th, 2015 at 4:36 pm
@Luther
On Sam….we agree!……no distractions please!!!
For the Winston supporters…..I hope for your sake we don’t sign any character issue players in FA.
You might think that paves the way for Winston….I think the opposite.
March 5th, 2015 at 4:36 pm
You guys are funny. Hardy and AP were arrest and tried. But that’s none of my business though.
March 5th, 2015 at 4:41 pm
No distractions but you want to sign hardy n AP? I don’t get it.
Any asking to sign AP or Hardy yet trashing Winston has absolutely no credibility except Tbbf bc he doesn’t bash others.
Some of you guys are crazy but not in a good way.
March 5th, 2015 at 4:44 pm
BONZAI he is listed as a linebacker. but has played both positions.
March 5th, 2015 at 4:50 pm
alstott I agree I was hoping the bucs could have had a shot at j piere paul. but G MEN wont let him go.
March 5th, 2015 at 4:50 pm
I’m meh on cole. Rather build a team with a young nucleus. LVD, BANKS, Evans, Winston etc.
Tired of getting robbed by FAs ie The Ghost and crew.
March 5th, 2015 at 4:51 pm
I like Trent Cole, but He’s on the wrong side of 30.
March 5th, 2015 at 4:55 pm
@WS99
Thanks for noticing…..I don’t bash others because I want to be able to make my points without prejudice….It’s just not necessary….also I have a great respect for passionate Buc fans.
By showing respect for their opinions…..I hope to gain the same for mine.
As far as the subject of character issue players….yes, it depends on the individual player…their offence….Buc need vs. cost…etc.
Certainy it is somewhat hypocritical to support a player who has been convicted and not support a player that is only accused.
I think the debate is certainly heightened with the #1 pick…you could gamble on a late round player and even a FA.
I absolutely agree that a player…especially a very young one….can be a good person that did a bad thing.
Some of these guys are simply thugs….who have gotten a big paycheck and it has exaserbated their bad behavior. (not giving examples except perhaps Aaron Hernandez, Ray Carruth….
March 5th, 2015 at 5:07 pm
@mikeh
Too good against the run as well to let him free. Agreed though, kept a close eye on his availability.
March 5th, 2015 at 5:31 pm
Tbbf
No issues brother. A wise man once said “real recognizes real”
March 5th, 2015 at 5:57 pm
All for this move, as long as they don’t pay him like a 27 year old 10 sack guy.
March 5th, 2015 at 7:10 pm
Agreed, Joe. Let’s get this guy and solve on of our biggest problems.
March 5th, 2015 at 8:51 pm
@Topnotch you are 100% correct idiots come here and act like they are the Glazers most them are yacking about some else money I think comes from envy and jealousy. Why don’t you guys post the company you work for so we can tell them your stupid arse need an incentive lased paycheck..
March 5th, 2015 at 8:55 pm
Not all older free agents are a bust. Remember what Hardy Nickerson did when he came in ? He changed the whole mindset for the defense that lasted 10 years !
March 5th, 2015 at 9:09 pm
@BPA-
In case you hadn’t noticed, there’s this little thing called a salary cap and overpaying for underperforming players has an impact on your ability to win. So that’s why we yack about somebody else’s money. Duh.
March 5th, 2015 at 9:59 pm
Excelent nickel pass rusher. Sign him and Jabaal Sheard and we have a very solid rotation on the right side. YOU CAN NOT HAVE ENOUGH PASS RUSHERS!
March 5th, 2015 at 10:15 pm
Gotbucs I’m wit you when right. Can not have enough pass rushers.
March 5th, 2015 at 11:07 pm
rdbucfan Says:
March 5th, 2015 at 4:32 pm
“You guys are all funny. According to all of the winstonians, we don’t need an offensive line, defensive line, special teams or even a coach for that matter (Jameis was yelling at Jimbo Fisher in the semifinal game because he was calling a horrible game and should have let Jameis call the plays, it’s in the archives look it up). All we need is Jameis Winston. All he did was win 26 games all by himself.”
Where have you ever read that anywhere on JBF?
Any one of us “Winstonites” claiming that he’s all we need? EVERYONE can see this team needs lots of help. Including the HC.
March 5th, 2015 at 11:12 pm
This team needs O-line help badly…
This team needs 2 DE’s badly….
This team needs a solid MLB badly…
This team needs Jamies Winston badly…
Thee end rdbucfan.
March 5th, 2015 at 11:30 pm
rdbucfan. u r a joke.
March 6th, 2015 at 11:09 am
Sign him and his good friend Brandon Graham.