Jaws Bites Down On Jameis Winston
March 5th, 2015
Former Pro Bowl quarterback and noted QB film junkie Ron “Jaws” Jaworski is sour on Jameis Winston.
But in typical BSPN style, Jaworski isn’t saying exactly why yet.
Jaws hopped on Mike & Mike on BSPN Radio yesterday, and after being asked specifically about what Winston looks like on film, Jaws declared he wouldn’t draft Winston No. 1 overall because of what he called “troublesome mechanical flaws.” But then Jaws said he would identify those flaws at a later time.
That was weak, but the Internet went wild with it because it came from Jaws, who emphasized his evaluation had nothing to do with off-field issues.
In case you were wondering, shortly before the draft last year, Jaws ranked Blake Bortles as his top quarterback coming out of college, followed by Zach Mettenberger, Johnny Football, Teddy Bridgewater and Derek Carr.
In 2013, Jaws was certain Geno Smith was going to be an outstanding NFL starter, ranking him the best QB of the 2013 class, just ahead of Ryan Nassib.
Joe’s really not blasting Jaws’ analysis, just illustrating the inexact science of the draft.
March 5th, 2015 at 8:06 am
Here’s the solid truth….if you watched a lot of Florida State football games, it was the running game that bailed the team out more often than not….without that running game, there would have been at least three losses last year….
As good as folks believe Winston to be, he wouldn’t have looked so hot without FSU’s clutch running……so Bucs fans have to ask the big question…..will the Buccaneers have a running game in 2015?
If they don’t, then Joe and everyone else shouldn’t expect miracles out of Winston or Mariota if that is the direction they go in the upcoming draft.
Simple as that….
March 5th, 2015 at 8:23 am
@Tom Edrington
Nice try…. One person comes out and says he has mechanical flaws and you eat it up lol news flash all quarterbacks have mechanical flaws coming out of college even luck. He didn’t mention mariotta flaws and get he has flaws sorry to tell you so it’s a matter of which qb they think can best accomplish what bucs are trying to do on offense. Don’t go to far with this story unless you can tell me who’s mechanics were flawless our of college…. Jeez it’s too early in the morning, lol manziel is the 3rd best qb but jaws wasn’t talking about his Nevins because that was who he likes. He’s still the pick
March 5th, 2015 at 8:38 am
Heres my thing…if we draft him, and he flounders or doesn’t have immediate success, do you think he would bolt and go play pro baseball?
If there is any doubt in the minds at OBP….you cannot draft him….period.
March 5th, 2015 at 8:41 am
Yeah…..but what does Boomer Esiason think? He’s a tool but seems to know QBs……maybe even more so than Joe.
March 5th, 2015 at 8:47 am
@Joe you were blasting but he totally deserves it because everything you said was true. Jaws is terrible at projecting qbs. This is the same man that said Josh Freeman is a top 5 qb in the league at one point(Freeman at his best was never top 5). He is not only wrong but usually loud and wrong. As for his comment about Jameis mechanical issues, I have seen what he is talking about, he has a funky release point from baseball. He has worked to corrected that, if he watched the combine he would have seen that release has changed(and he is still accurate). Jaws has the pull(for some dumb reason) to talk to Jameis himself and find out by watching him live to say he is or is not the pick. Instead he throws this flaws in mechanics line out there and walks off like he said smart s*** that no one else has seen.
In conclusion f*** Jaw’s analysis!
March 5th, 2015 at 8:58 am
^^^^^
I completely concur with Gus….
March 5th, 2015 at 9:02 am
Hence …
Trade down TWICE in the 1st round…
3/4 side arm delivery
long wind up
March 5th, 2015 at 9:03 am
JoeJoes Fungi Nails Says:
March 5th, 2015 at 9:02 am
Hence …
Trade down TWICE in the 1st round…
3/4 side arm delivery
long wind up
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don’t forget winner, don’t forget Heisman winner, leader and top pick in nfl draft lol
March 5th, 2015 at 9:04 am
I’ll bet my left “nut” the Buc’s don’t pick Winston. You heard it here first.
March 5th, 2015 at 9:05 am
meh, nevermind
March 5th, 2015 at 9:06 am
^ they always forget this stuff. I’m leaning winston but i would not be upset at all if Mariota was the pick. But the bashing of both qbs is nonsense, they will both be great players in the nfl
March 5th, 2015 at 9:07 am
“Mechanical flaws” is such an over-hyped term used by these ‘experts’. bucs4lyfe is right. What QB has perfect mechanics? Peyton Manning shuffles his feet too much, Drew Brees pats the ball too much, so on and so forth… What should be important is the accuracy of the throw, not how it gets there. These guys criticize mechanics, but then laud QB’s like Favre, Stafford, Kurt Warner, Stafford, that all could throw the ball in a number of different ways and still get the ball to the receiver. They talk out of both sides of their mouth.
Jaws knows about as much as any of us when it comes to projecting QBs. Before the beginning of last season he was proclaiming the Colin Kaepernick was on his way to being the best QB EVER! Child Please!!!
March 5th, 2015 at 9:07 am
Jaworski also had Zeach Mettenberger and Manziel ahead of my #1 QB from last season, Teddy Bridgewater.
March 5th, 2015 at 9:08 am
Yes because Jaws is a pillar of QB talent. 50% comp almost 1:1 TD to Ints for his career. These scouting reports from these figure heads on the big networks are becoming watered down. They’re either way far one way or way far the other way and this goes for most of the top rated players. They aren’t as great as some are saying and not as flawed as others are saying. There is going to be a learning curve for both these QB’s it’s just a matter of who’s game to do you think is going to allow him to pick it up quicker.
March 5th, 2015 at 9:09 am
Schlomie SchlepBarMitzvah Says:
March 5th, 2015 at 9:04 am
I’ll bet my left “nut” the Buc’s don’t pick Winston. You heard it here first.
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You must either be a woman or aren’t particularly fond of old lefty.
March 5th, 2015 at 9:09 am
When you have as many glaring holes as we do.
One guy just ain’t gonna cut it.
Trust the system thats age old, and true
Trade down-grab as many premium picks you can, and build a team
March 5th, 2015 at 9:10 am
*Don’t know why I wrote Stafford twice. lol
March 5th, 2015 at 9:11 am
Josh P Says:
March 5th, 2015 at 9:08 am
Yes because Jaws is a pillar of QB talent. 50% comp almost 1:1 TD to Ints for his career. These scouting reports from these figure heads on the big networks are becoming watered down. They’re either way far one way or way far the other way and this goes for most of the top rated players. They aren’t as great as some are saying and not as flawed as others are saying. There is going to be a learning curve for both these QB’s it’s just a matter of who’s game to do you think is going to allow him to pick it up quicker
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His success as an NFL QB has very little to do with his ability to evaluate QBs. There are great ones that don’t know squat-Montana, and there were marginal ones that are very good-Dilfer. Jaws isn’t great at what he does. He was a very good QB for his era, however, and that shouldn’t be held against him… he’s still a lot better of QB than 99.8% of the figure heads that comment on this.
March 5th, 2015 at 9:13 am
yea but it’s no different from what we do with the exception he gets paid for sititng in front of a tv all day watching film and still giving his awful evaluation
I see the strengths of Winston and makes me think he will be better, I like Winston so im pro Winston, mariotta too me I would be fine if we didn’t draft him and if he is an all pro to come out of Oregon or the spread offense then he would be the first and that’s a bigger risk im not willing to take
March 5th, 2015 at 9:13 am
I’m not qualified to judge Jaw’s comments on Winston….we’ll leave that to the experts…but, perhaps what he calls flaws are simply Winston’s style….and somehow he seems to get it done.
I’m a Mariota supporter but will give Winston credit for his on-field accomplishments.
As far as needing a running game…..every QB needs a good Oline & running game…especially a rookie.
March 5th, 2015 at 9:14 am
If the Bucs draft mariota, what are all these JW fans gonna do? Will you support Mariota? I hope you come to terms that is going to be a real possibility. I get being a FSU fan but some of you are way way over the top with your support and defense of some of the obvious issues like mechanics and off field distractions with JW. Mariota is not perfect either but he is better in my opinion however unpopular it is. I Just want the best QB and stats wise and film wise that is MM. He is a better fit because the buc QB will be running for his life next year with this suspect OL.
March 5th, 2015 at 9:18 am
Dilfer called it 4 years ago before there was hype. I think I trust his opinion over Jaws. Playing skills has nothing to do with it.
March 5th, 2015 at 9:18 am
I already know the throws he’s talking bout. The one against Notre Dame was just inexcusable when they had just got a turnover and were backed up in their own territory and he just heaved one up. Several of the rest of them were linebackers just buzzing underneath of receivers he was locked in on. Jameis will get payed to see that at the next level though. It’s coachable
March 5th, 2015 at 9:18 am
@Bucs4lyfe:
Read my post, I said nothing about flaws, nothing but the fact that the running game bailed FSU out more often than not….
AND, take off your blinders and realize that with no running game, it won’t matter who they draft……
Read the post!!!!
March 5th, 2015 at 9:18 am
He has mechanical flaws that baseball players have playing quarterback. Now that his basenall days are over, he has a chance to correct them.
What about Phillip Rivers? Awful mechanics and yet Jaws love him.
People see what they want to see, and ESPN sees ratings when they put stuff out like that.
March 5th, 2015 at 9:23 am
Wake me up when Greg Cosell puts his stamp on one or the other. At that point I will pay attention.
So Jaws wouldn’t take him with the #1 pick, how about the #2 pick? I predict the world will end at some point but I don’t know why or when.
March 5th, 2015 at 9:24 am
Love the FSU guys freak out. He had a 18 int’s clearly something wasn’t right. You can try to justify it how ever you want. Oh Matty ice 19 yea he did for B.C. Not a team that was playing for a Championship how many guys from his team went in the first round.
March 5th, 2015 at 9:27 am
The kid is probably the best leader of a football team since Ray Lewis!
March 5th, 2015 at 9:27 am
@Tom Edrington
Sorry about that man i kinda ignored your point because it was kinda ridiculous to say if it wasn’t for Winston they would have lost more games especially with what he did in the 4th quarters and how he rallys the troops for comebacks so when i said nice try that was pretty much all i had to say about your analysis of Winston….everyone needs a running game and o line and i think glennon will be just as bad as Winston if the bucs line and run game doesn’t get better because glennon has already proved he sucks without both. Winston and mariotta are kids…mariotta has a higher ceiling because he hasn’t done as much as Winston, you already know what Winston can do……i like mariotta just not as much as Winston, i don’t wanna give the keys to a guy who couldn’t even start in high school that’s just me
March 5th, 2015 at 9:31 am
Forget the Byron Porkwich windup and all the the picks too.
The already “famous” fat head.
Face of the franchise? Um no. Dressed out when you are suspended? “Calm your ass down or your going to sit.”
March 5th, 2015 at 9:32 am
OH YEA and matt ryan threw 19 interceptions his final year at boston college, Ryan Tannehill 15
oh but wait RG3 threw 6 interceptions his senior…..why is it people are saying he cant read defenses hmmmmm
March 5th, 2015 at 9:34 am
Spot on
March 5th, 2015 at 9:34 am
That 4 letter network won’t ever mention his leadership characteristics. So no one remember him in the locker room on ABC giving speeches before the Clemson game his redshirt freshman year?? And when I found out that he useto lead the team out the locker room when E.J was at qb I was sold!
March 5th, 2015 at 9:40 am
LUVMYBUCS Says:
March 5th, 2015 at 9:09 am
Trust the system thats age old, and true
Trade down-grab as many premium picks you can, and build a team
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Age Old and true???? LOL
Apparently you are not aware that what you are suggesting has NEVER happened – EVER – in the history of the NFL.
The #1 pick in the draft has never been traded for multiple picks. But why let facts get in the way of your desire to trade down….
March 5th, 2015 at 9:40 am
-” Im telling you Right Now. Brady Quinn is a Sure-Fire, Can’t Miss prospect at the next level”
-Mel Kiper
March 5th, 2015 at 9:41 am
I agree with Kaput. It’s just for ratings. Jaws has a tendency to bash QB prospects coming out of college. I am really not sure if he believes this stuff. If you have every talking head saying Winston is the best and will go number one it becomes a non story after a while. They need to have someone come out and say this to revive the debate. I am sure Jaws and his statement will get a lot of coverage for the next few days.
March 5th, 2015 at 9:42 am
Ron Jaworski –
“I truly believe Colin Kaepernick could be one of the greatest quarterbacks ever,”
There will be analysts who like Winston #1 and those who do not. All the matters is what the guys at OBP think.
March 5th, 2015 at 9:42 am
@Nybucsfan
So you actually believe the number of Int a QB throws in his last year of college is a sign of things to come??? clearly you haven’t analyzed some the top QB’s in the NFL and their Ints coming out of college.. You can’t just take the number of Int’s at face value…put a little research into it if you’re going to comment on it..and that goes for any QB you want to talk about..
@Brandon
Jaws top 5 QB’s from 2014
1.Bortles
2.Mettenberger
3.Bridgewater
4.Manziel
5.Carr
Bortles(Not counting Manziel,not enough on field eval) was the worst of all of them. All im saying is don’t put a lot of stock into what form players and analyst say when they are on their soap box. All they are trying to do is generate clicks. plain and simple. Joe knows the name of the game. Like i said non of these players are as great as some are propping them up to be and not as flawed as they are saying they are. Its all about who’s game can adapt to the pro level the quickest. That’s who the Bucs are going to pick.
March 5th, 2015 at 9:42 am
Excluding Marcus Randall and Rick Clausen.
*Jimbo Has knack for getting QB’s drafted
JaMarcus Russell
• NFL Draft: 2007 / Round: 1 / Pick: 1
Christian Ponder
• NFL Draft: 2011 / Round: 1 / Pick: 12
E.J. Manuel
• NFL Draft: 2013 / Round: 1 / Pick: 16
Rohan Davey
• NFL Draft: 2002 / Round: 4 / Pick: 117
Josh Booty
• NFL Draft: 2001 / Round: 6 / Pick: 172
Matt Mauck
• NFL Draft: 2004 / Round: 7 / Pick: 225
March 5th, 2015 at 9:45 am
Ill go with kurt warner, b billick, steve mariucci, and phil simms’ word, you mariota monsters can have jaws, mayock, and 1 anonymous scout 🙂
March 5th, 2015 at 9:45 am
I can Only imagine this thread if Jaws had said the same thing about Mariota
March 5th, 2015 at 9:47 am
@LUVMYBUCS
that’s hilarious but you gotta admit Christian ponder and e.j. manuel were bad evaluations and didn’t have top of the draft grades so mel kipper and the crew got those two right
March 5th, 2015 at 9:48 am
Mechanics Shamanics. Anybody seen Phillip Rivers mechanics and the way he throws the ball. He probably has the ugliest wind up and release in the league. Tell me how thats worked out for him. BSPN has nothing else to talk about. Jameis will be Famous at Raymond. Mark it down folks!
March 5th, 2015 at 9:48 am
Wow Luv…….thanks for the list. It pushes me even further into the Trade Down crowd. Looks like all of Jimbo’s QB s are just hype.
March 5th, 2015 at 9:50 am
Which bring up a fair point
National Championship Teams vs The QB’s that play on their stacked rosters.
When have any of their QB’s ever WON anything in the NFL?
March 5th, 2015 at 9:50 am
No I’m say you will make excuses for him no matter what. I seen a thing to day he is the second most hated college football player ever. Even more hated than johnny football. I do think he has some problems on the field as well.
March 5th, 2015 at 9:51 am
@bucs4lyfe
Lol, you gotta give Jimbo credit though
March 5th, 2015 at 9:54 am
And yet – despite those “troubling mechanical flaws” (which shall not be named like Voldemort) – Winston won 26 straight games including SIX 4th quarter come from behind wins. You know – like leading your team down the field with clutch play and surgical precision with everything on the line in the last minute of the Championship game and throwing the winning TD with mere seconds on the clock to secure the National Championship for your team….
If that’s what “flawed mechanics” looks like Jaworski – I’ll take it. Some people will say anything in an attempt to be relevant.
March 5th, 2015 at 9:54 am
I still think Bortles can succeed in the NFL if Jacksonville can get some pieces around him
March 5th, 2015 at 9:57 am
Josh P. – Sign says no feeding the trolls.
March 5th, 2015 at 9:57 am
Everyone pointing to 25/18, with 2 freshmen wrs and inexperienced center, and ignoring 40/10 with kenny shaw(sr), kelvin(matchup) or stork (qb of line) just cannot be taken seriously..height of subjectivity..and saying “jimbos qb list” couldnt possibly be more ignorant..wanna see tedfords list before aaron? What if none of them even made it on practice squad? Are we to skip on aaron, in hindsight..i mean, how could jeff tedford mentor a winnong qb?? Roflmao. So transparently biased..
March 5th, 2015 at 9:59 am
Ponder and Manuel had no business being drafted in the first round and pretty much every GM in the NFL knew that save for two of the worst I guess.
I guess whoever coached Manning and Brady in college should have coached nothing but NFL Hall of Famers? Its the same argument some of you guys are making from the other side of the spectrum.
March 5th, 2015 at 10:02 am
Great point, pri..everyone doubting jameis just need watch his drive vs aub in final minute. Every single throw, of nearly every variety other than fade, was made perfectly..perfectly!!! .jimbo threw it on his shoulders and we saw what happened..even after auburn tried to spygate (real-time) a title away from jameis. He refused to lose that game, on his 20th birthday no less. Amazing talent
March 5th, 2015 at 10:04 am
Phil Fulmer (HC/OC at UT) He got Erik Ainge, Tee Martin, Heath Shuler, Jeff Francis drafted who all were bust, and of course Peyton Manning who is a HOF.. College play doesn’t always add up…plus a heck of a lot more QB’s fail than make it so kind of an irrelevant stat. It only takes one QB to be great to change the perception.
March 5th, 2015 at 10:05 am
The more that I think about it, the more I don’t have a problem with Winston having some picks and struggles this year.
He has a year of film where he is just crushing opponents, and and he has a year of film where he had some struggles, but it allowed him to show what he can do when the chips are down.
March 5th, 2015 at 10:05 am
The depressing thing is Teddy Bridgewater is better than either of these two and we could have traded up to get him easy.
March 5th, 2015 at 10:09 am
Nothing to see here. I’ve been talking about Winston’s mechanics since Jameis Watch started.
March 5th, 2015 at 10:12 am
@Pickgrin
Easy on the actual in game stats. people can’t handle that kind of truth this early in the morning..
March 5th, 2015 at 10:14 am
People like Jaws get paid to give their opinions…he also stated a few years back when RG3 was coming into the league that he would have a long successful career…so far he’s been wrong on that prediction…Analysts, draft guru’s, etc are like meteorologists their jobs require theme to make educateded guesses but in reality they’re usually right only half the time…
March 5th, 2015 at 10:18 am
Watch his footwork, or lack thereof
March 5th, 2015 at 10:19 am
@Skyline Crew
From an expert such as your self. what exactly are his mechanical flaws?
March 5th, 2015 at 10:19 am
@Cody
ding ding
March 5th, 2015 at 10:23 am
Haha Jaws…what a crock. Whitfield already said Winston had some mechanical baseball type throwing issues. He also said he worked on correcting them and that Winston is fine. Jaws’ mechanics were awful, his fumble is only second to the Sancise’s butt fumble
March 5th, 2015 at 10:25 am
nebraskabucsfan Says:
March 5th, 2015 at 10:05 am
” Teddy Bridgewater is better than either of these two”
BAWHAHAHAHAHAHA – chuckle, snort – wipes a tear
that’s a good one dude
March 5th, 2015 at 10:28 am
Tom E
The problem I have with you saying the FSUs running game bailed Jameis out all season is that the Noles didnt have much of a running game last year. In fact, of all the 1A schools the Noles were ranked 80th. With Jameis in the game, rushing was an after thought. Geez, the Gators and Canes were both ranked ahead of them. Do please explain how these rushing juggernauts elevated the QB position at FSU. I really want to hear this.
March 5th, 2015 at 10:29 am
““Mechanical flaws” is such an over-hyped term used by these ‘experts’. bucs4lyfe is right. What QB has perfect mechanics? Peyton Manning shuffles his feet too much,”
Of course, keeping your feet moving goes in the pro column for a QB.
My best guess at the mechanical flaws is that it’s going to start with Winston’s slow wind up and throwing motion. He’s going to need to learn a quicker release or those interception totals are only going to go up and he’s going to see more batted passes than he’s used to.
March 5th, 2015 at 10:33 am
passthebuc Says:
March 5th, 2015 at 10:18 am
“Watch his footwork, or lack thereof”
Oh – you mean like this?
http://soshcentral.com/nfl/nfl-draft/2015/02/23/the-footwork-of-marcus-mariota-vs-jameis-winston/
Don’t you just hate it when people prove your ridiculous statements wrong with evidence?
March 5th, 2015 at 10:37 am
College stats mean nothing…. JWs INTs and MMs TDs. They don’t mean a thing. For you little children on here refer to Dan Marino’s College Statistics. It’s about the player and how they think they will translate to the Pro Game.
March 5th, 2015 at 10:46 am
Jaws is seeing what the REAL football people are seeing. Not the mockers or draft guys but the REAL football people. He knows that Winston is very much overrated and over hyped and will have real problems in the NFL. Bucs should stay far, far away
March 5th, 2015 at 10:52 am
“Nuckinfutz Says:
March 5th, 2015 at 10:46 am
Jaws is seeing what the REAL football people are seeing. Not the mockers or draft guys but the REAL football people”
Ron Jaworski –
“I truly believe Colin Kaepernick could be one of the greatest quarterbacks ever,”
March 5th, 2015 at 10:58 am
I want a QB that will do anything to make sure he wins the game. Which Winston has proven he is capable of. Debating mechanics is a waste of time. Especially when there have been so may successful QBs out there with poor mechanic. Moving on.
Oh yeah. I wonder how rough on himself Jaws would be if he had to evaluate himself coming out of college. Bitch, please.
March 5th, 2015 at 11:04 am
Like it has been mentioned, FSU get’s top talent across the board, one of the top ranked recruiting classes every year, this coming year included. Sure the QB is the most important player on the field, but without stockpiling high rated prospects at most positions every year FSU would just be an average team. Winston benefitted enourmously from the surrounding talent.
March 5th, 2015 at 11:17 am
“Buccfan37 Says:
March 5th, 2015 at 11:04 am
Like it has been mentioned, FSU get’s top talent across the board, one of the top ranked recruiting classes every year, this coming year included. Sure the QB is the most important player on the field, but without stockpiling high rated prospects at most positions every year FSU would just be an average team. Winston benefitted enourmously from the surrounding talent.”
To your point, Jameis took over a team that was largely identical the year before, also filled with 4* and 5* players, which was led by EJ Manuel at QB.
Jameis took that roster and elevated it to another level. That’s actually a great way to see how a great QB and leader can transform a talented team to a Championship team.
March 5th, 2015 at 11:33 am
@LUVMYBUCS
So i guess since Mariota lost in the National Championship Game gives him the edge..
March 5th, 2015 at 11:42 am
What! FSU wouldn’t have look good without a running game WOW.. @LittleTomEdrington you are a genius you should be coach of the year. Day in and day out every one knows you need a running game in the end to win games.
NFL playoff teams
Patriots/Packers /Ravens/Panthers/Steelers/Cowboys/Seahawks/Bengals/Cardinals RB&QB got hurt)/ have good running backs.
College playoffs.. Alabama/Ohio State/Oregon/FSU. Good to great running attack. Ohio State was ranked #5 in the nation. ATT: 690 RUSH: 3967 Oregon was ranked #10 in the nation ATT:644 Rush:3518 Alabama was ranked #26 in the nation ATT:567 Rush:2893 FSU was ranked #80 in the nation ATT:451 Rush:1933
So if you think the running game helped Jameis look good then you have to assume the other QB’s looked like hall of famer because their running was way much better than FSU..
March 5th, 2015 at 11:49 am
So guess Mariota has zero supporting talent at Oregon?? please people just take a second and reread your comments…
March 5th, 2015 at 11:51 am
“ESPN’s Ron Jaworski is especially high on Griffin’s NFL prospects, and Jaws was also in attendance at the Baylor workout.”
“The throws he made were all bona fide NFL-type throws,” Jaworski said, per the Associated Press. “He’s going to be a superstar at the next level.”
March 5th, 2015 at 11:51 am
Running game? But we have Charles Simms. Lmao rotf.
March 5th, 2015 at 11:57 am
Buccfan37 Says:
March 5th, 2015 at 11:04 am
“Like it has been mentioned, FSU get’s top talent across the board, one of the top ranked recruiting classes every year, this coming year included.”
Don’t forget that Winston was one of the those “top talents”.
March 5th, 2015 at 12:00 pm
Simms is likely to make you eat that negative opinion of his skills WS99. Time will tell.
March 5th, 2015 at 12:05 pm
@ Josh P
I’m not an expert, but he has problems with his throwing mechanics, footwork needs work, has problems reading underneath coverage. All has been documented by multiple analyst. Of course they can be fixed, but he does have mechanical flaws. Those that believe he walks on water are delusional.
March 5th, 2015 at 12:16 pm
I really can’t stand ron jaworski!!! Not because of this comment but because he’s a loud mouthed moron who never gets anything right. So if he doesn’t approve of JW, that might be a good thing. And o yea…hes an Eagle. YUK
March 5th, 2015 at 12:18 pm
it is just stupid to say one way or another who is going to be a great QB it is all speculation. a rookie QB other than 1 or 2 through the years hex luck most take at least 2 or 3 years. so simply foolish we can just guess. all rookies have growing pains. some do ok some not so much. BUT IT TAKES TIME!
March 5th, 2015 at 12:26 pm
Wow. lol @ the first comment in this thread
FSU’s run game was not that elite.
At some point in the OSU game there was about 3 passes to every 1 rush called since the running game was so terrible. It got closer by the end of the game (40:26) but the whole offense was Winston. Out of curiosity I’m going to look at the pass vs rush yards by game:
vs OSU – 370 passing yards, 65 rushing yards for the team.
Vs Citadel – 256 passing yards versus 130 rushing
didn’t play vs Clemson – but the team totaled 60 rushing yards
vs NC State – 365 passing yards versus 170 rushing
vs Wake – 300 passing yards to 120 rushing
vs Syracuse – 317 passing yards to 160 rushing
vs Notre Dame – 273 passing yards to 45 rushing (jesus lol)
vs Louiseville – 400 passing to 180 rushing
vs Virginia – 261 passing to 106 rushing
vs Miami – 300 passing to 100 rushing
vs BC – 280 passing to 110 rushing
vs UF – 125 passing to 180 rushing
vs GT – 310 passing to 180 rushing
vs Oregon – 348 passing to 183 rushing
Before the last stretch of games; there were only a couple solid performances on the ground. Barely racking 100 yards as a team in college football is not that great of an accomplishment for a top 5 team. It’s pretty bad actually.
On the year; FSU ranked 80th in rushing yards gained.
They ranked 6th in passing yards gained.
I probably should have just said the last 2 items but I wanted to re look at the games out of curiosity. Still… just more blind made up BS by another commentor.
March 5th, 2015 at 1:22 pm
BSPN can stick it! Their agenda and lack of objectivity is just sickening.
March 5th, 2015 at 2:08 pm
hence luck*
March 5th, 2015 at 2:14 pm
We are the Jameis mujahideen!
We will not tolerate any criticism of our lord, savior, and prophet Jameis!
Death to the blasphemers!
March 5th, 2015 at 2:23 pm
I don’t like Winston but as Joe would say (about ESPN) Jaws is full of BS. Winston’s mechanical flaws are barely noteworthy and he’s already improved since the season because he’s not pitching.
March 5th, 2015 at 2:38 pm
@JFF says:
Winston’s mechanical flaws are barely noteworthy . . .
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I wouldn’t go that far. I’ve watched every game Winston has played, and I’ve always been bothered by his mechanics. His slow wind-up and tendency to drop into that wonky, half-sidearm Josh Freeman delivery are troublesome.
But watching him throw at the combine, his throwing motion looked much more compact, and his release much quicker, than it ever looked on the field.
Let’s hope that sticks, if he’s our guy. Winston’s smart enough to improve his own mechanics. I never trust coaches to improve a guy’s mechanical flaws.
March 5th, 2015 at 2:53 pm
The stuttering-stammering-newspaperreaderbroadcaster, may agree that Winston is not going to be picked by the Buc’s.
March 5th, 2015 at 3:41 pm
Anyone not blinded by gold are garnet glasses can see that Winston has some serious mechanical flaws. We’ve known this for a while. It’s pretty obvious even to a lay person like myself.
The question is, can they be fixed? And do we have a coach capable of fixing them?
March 5th, 2015 at 4:38 pm
Mikeh do you take a big hit off a bong before every post you put on this site! Your posts are basically incoherent. Combining that with your misspelled words, run on sentences and overall lack of punctuation is amazing.
I actually enjoy your posts for comedic value and I like the challenge of trying to decipher what the point of all your jibberish! Keep up the good work my man! #shortbusesrock #educationisforlosers
March 5th, 2015 at 10:17 pm
i thought methmike used a pipe