Stop With This Suh Idiocy!
February 16th, 2015
OK, Joe has had it. You fantasy football fools, will you just stop with this Ndamukong Suh nonsense? Really? It is so idiotic.
The Bucs just broke the bank for Gerald McCoy. You know, a defensive tackle. As Warren Sapp would say with his eyes bugged out and head cocked like a pointer hearing a whistle, “Hello?”
Why on earth would the Bucs tie up so much salary cap on the same position? Come on people! This is the same king of nonsense former Tampa Bay sports radio czar J.P. Peterson tried to peddle, bellyaching for years because the Bucs didn’t draft Adrian Peterson — when the Bucs already had a healthy (at the time) Cadillac Williams. Good, grief.
The Bucs signing free-agent Suh makes about as much sense as the Colts going out and somehow acquiring Aaron Rodgers.
The Bucs have a Grand Canyon hole at quarterback. They have a hole at left tackle, at left guard, at center, at right guard, Lord knows they have a hole at right defensive end, at middle linebacker, possibly at strongside linebacker and at safety.
And you want the Bucs to go after a defensive tackle when they already have a Pro Bowler there? Sober up!
This just in: the NFL is not fantasy football. Joe remembers he was crucified for writing years ago that free agency is fool’s gold. How many tens of millions of dollars of Team Glazer cash was thrown out the window the past three years? And only one premium signing has come remotely close to earning his keep, wide receiver Vincent Jackson.
Maybe, just maybe, winning the offseason really doesn’t mean getting to the postseason? Jerry Jones and Danny Snyder used to prove this annually. Now, maybe, Bucs fans are starting to come to grips with this concept.
If the Bucs did sign Suh, Joe would predict Lovie Smith, if not Jason Licht, also would be signing their walking papers. That is, if Team Glazer would even agree to sign a check for Suh.
Only in fantasy football or an NFL world with no salary cap would signing Suh make a lick of sense.
February 16th, 2015 at 1:05 pm
Plus we already have a more than competent second DT in Clinton McDonald. Paying Suh that much money would be stupid when we could use the resources where we actuality have a need.
February 16th, 2015 at 1:08 pm
You forgot the hole at Nickel CB
February 16th, 2015 at 1:09 pm
Ive stopped reading the articles here til after the draft but I Certainly agree with the Title to the article.
February 16th, 2015 at 1:10 pm
LOL. Calling for Suh just displays the level of intelligence of the people who post out here. They know very little about the NFL and even less about salary caps and personnel.
February 16th, 2015 at 1:11 pm
Signing would be a luxury only justifiable if this team were solid at most other positions. And they’re not… This is one of the most idiotic suggestions I’ve ever seen PewterReport float.
February 16th, 2015 at 1:12 pm
Sign bowers and we’ll be fine inside. What do you think of Patrick Willis out of San Fran at MLB?
February 16th, 2015 at 1:12 pm
Defensive tackle is the least of our worries. No way this happens.
February 16th, 2015 at 1:13 pm
I would rather take that money invest in jpp and jerry hughes. We would have one bad ass dline
February 16th, 2015 at 1:18 pm
no idea why anyone thinks this is a possibility…. i can’t read articles that suggest this is a possibility, just like I can’t read articles that the bucs like jameis over mariota or mariota over jameis before the bucs have even sat face to face with them or seen them in a workout.
February 16th, 2015 at 1:20 pm
Actually Scott Reynolds wrote a very nice argument addressing how it would be possible( salary cap wise) and of course the advantages on field….certainly should be a consideration
February 16th, 2015 at 1:21 pm
LOL That would be popular.
February 16th, 2015 at 1:25 pm
Totally agree with Joe on this one! Not the position of need for the Bucs.
February 16th, 2015 at 1:25 pm
You all act as if you know what Lovie will do in the draft! Joe is so nervous cuz he knows that Lovie is in draft mode and he is most likely going to trade out of the #1 pick to get more players!! Lovie knows after that 20 pounds the Rapist Winston packed on in the last month smoking hippy lettuce and chowing on stolen crab legs, that the safest route is to start Mike Glennon, let Mariota learn behind Glennon, and stay as far away from the future resident of the NFL Exempt List, Jameis Winston!
Does picking Suh make any sense??? No…but if you look at the players the Bucs have either failed to draft or the players on their roster that they let go without compensation, only to see them playing in the Super Bowl, you cannot believe that anything that resembles logic will be coming out of Lovie’s War Room!!
I agree Suh is not the guy to draft with GMC under contract, but Lovie is in his last year of coaching the Buc’s because no matter what the year end game winning total is….2-14…3-13…1-15….Lovie is heading out the door to spend another year in his basement skyping with the Big Poodle!!
Greg Schiano
February 16th, 2015 at 1:26 pm
Best way to Neutralize ANY Quarterback is with Interior Pass Rush
*Per: Willie McGinest-3x Super Bowl Champion & Current NFL Network analyst
“It’s important to have an interior rush,”. “It collapses the pocket and it doesn’t allow the quarterbacks to step into their throws, which makes them inaccurate. As anoutside rusher, when you’re coming around the edge you want the quarterback to stay in that pocket. If there is no interior rush, it allows the quarterback to escape, to step into his throw or step up to avoid the outside pressure.”
*Per: J.J. Watt
“You can disrupt the quarterback just by causing pressure up the middle,” says Watt. “Whereas on the outside you really have to get to the quarterback to disrupt him.
GMC & SUH would give us the tandem in the league.
February 16th, 2015 at 1:27 pm
Suh is not the guy to get via free agency with GMC under contract,
February 16th, 2015 at 1:29 pm
Trade Michael Johnson & Release Michael Koenen ..there’s your SUH money
February 16th, 2015 at 1:31 pm
Everyone should read Scott Reynolds article before popping off….I am not saying sign Suh….merely that there is a well made unemotional case supporting the notion of pursuing Suh….read it !
February 16th, 2015 at 1:31 pm
Forget Suh and blowing our cap space. I would rather have Williams on a rookie contract.
February 16th, 2015 at 1:34 pm
Read the freak’n article …it addresses the cap and how it is possible….
February 16th, 2015 at 1:36 pm
Ndamukong Suh
4× Pro Bowl (2010, 2012, 2013, 2014)
4× First-team All-Pro (2010, 2011, 2013, 2014)
Second-team All-Pro (2012)
Quarterback sacks 36.0 <-He brings with him a-Much needed attitude adjustment
February 16th, 2015 at 1:37 pm
The team hasnt had a QB or pass rush for years …Suh costing too much money- i buy but that he wouldnt help this team and pass rush is crazy …
February 16th, 2015 at 1:43 pm
Man to make sure: Joe, you are not stupid – for damn sure, but: saying trading V-Jacks is not a good idea IS A STUPID STATEMENT..
bottom line: if you can replace a player, with one with similar or better skill set + younger + maybe even cheaper + you can generate a draft pick by it (and maybe even 2nd-3rd and multiples) = right thing to do..,.
Torrey Smith + Mike Evans would be great WR tandem, Torrey Smith unlike Jackson is very capable of out running secondarys also…. mad ball skills and route running >>>> would be an upgrade + draft picks by trading V-Jacks
>>>> absolute NO BRAINER
February 16th, 2015 at 1:43 pm
Sign Suh for at least $15 million per, or draft Leonard Williams for $5 million per. If they want Suh, they’ll just draft Williams instead. Better value signing, and having $40 million or more to 3 guys on the DL is amazingly stupid. Anything less than the leagues best pass rush is unacceptable for that money. 1/4 of your cap to 3 players in the same position group is pure idiocy.
February 16th, 2015 at 1:45 pm
In January, McCoy was on the “Mike and Mike” show on ESPN Radio with Mike Greenberg and Mike Golic where he was asked which player was the better defensive tackle – he or Suh. McCoy, a three-time Pro Bowler, said Suh was.
“You didn’t think I was going to say that, did you?” McCoy said. “This is what I base it off of. If you look at our careers in comparison he’s had a better career. It’s a what-have-you-done-lately-for-me league. I was second-team All-Pro and he was first-team. And Suh had the most votes. It automatically makes him No. 1.
“Suh is what I like to call a mutant. You have a lot of mutants in this league; he’s one of them.”
McCoy has seen Suh’s freakish athleticism on display first-hand several times, most recently in Tampa Bay’s 34-17 loss at Detroit in which Suh had six tackles, two tackles for loss a sack and multiple quarterback hits and pressures on Josh McCown. McCoy is all about winning. If you think he would mind playing next to Suh or wouldn’t be comfortable with the 2010 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year making more than him, you don’t know McCoy. Having not experienced the NFL playoffs once in his five-year career, he’ll do whatever it takes to help Tampa Bay win and get to the postseason.
February 16th, 2015 at 1:46 pm
huups , forgot about the Suh part: So, in terms of FA´s: if you can ugrade the D-line, you do it!! period.. especially with one of the best in the league..
with Suh, Tampa could rotate, so that we could have always one of the best sucking up the middle of LOS… thats worth every penny, since Suh is a beast vs. pass and run…
February 16th, 2015 at 1:48 pm
all starts up-front, controlling the LineOfScrimmage should be worth every penny..
Look at Panthers, they had a top defense and do they have the best secondary? or do they benefit from a great D-line?
February 16th, 2015 at 1:49 pm
Per: Scott Reynolds
The New York Giants spent years stockpiling defensive ends after they already had Michael Strahan and Osi Umenyiora on the roster, drafting the likes of Mathias Kiawanuka and Jason Pierre-Paul in the first round and adding Justin Tuck in the third round. That strategy paid off as the Giants’ relentless pass rush helped them win two Super Bowl titles against New England.
They could both share that responsibility and be moved around to create the best mismatches to exploit. The thought of having either Suh or McCoy freed up in a one-on-one on every single play on defense because the other DT would be drawing a double team has to put a smile on the faces of head coach Lovie Smith and defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier and put a nightmare in the minds of opposing offensive coordinators
February 16th, 2015 at 1:49 pm
Gotta agree here with Joe….any money spent on defense in FA shoul be spent on 1. Pass rushing DE, 2. A solid MLB with some coverage skills and 3. A safety with ball skills that doesn’t cost us silly penalties for ilegal hits. Oh, and 4. Quality depth all around! Let’s just call the whole Michael Johnson experiment what it really was….a disaster of biblical proportions, cut him and move on! GMC, LVD, Verner and Banks give us a nice base to build around, now we just have to find the right complimentary pieces and our defense can return to respectability!
February 16th, 2015 at 1:52 pm
biggest +: stock pilling that talent on same position enables you to trade players: stock pilling resources (get another player for other posi or get draft picks)
>>> upgrading one posi + getting depth
February 16th, 2015 at 2:11 pm
Same goes for those of you asserting Leonard Williams should be the pick.
He’s a fantastic 3 technique under-tackle prospect. We just signed McCoy to play that position for the next few years. We really need an edge rusher…and that ain’t Williams game.
February 16th, 2015 at 2:17 pm
@joe
Its only crazy if one of them got hurt every year.
If they both stayed healthy for the next 5 years, then they would be worth the investment.
Im just saying.
Those two? On the same line?
Its at least worth thinking about.
February 16th, 2015 at 2:21 pm
@luvmybucs
It’s a question of economics. It’s the same reason you don’t trade UP to get into a spot to draft an elite QB when you already have one of the best QB’s in the league.
It possible, it’s just not very practical, which is also not very cost effective.
As the saying goes: they only have so many footballs to go around.
If you have two $100 million DT’s, when running a 4-3 alignment, you will overpay one…or you’ll sit one which means you’d never get your money out of him, or you’ll overpay someone with the skill to be an elite under-tackle to play the over-tackle spot. He’ll sit and anchor the line. Meanwhile, by NOT concentrating resources to get an edge rusher, the QB never tries to run it up the middle…but you can never get contain on the outside, nor can you stop the passes into the flat on that side…
You can try to get an edge rusher and leverage the stellar play you’re already getting from Gerald McCoy by collapsing a pocket or getting a sack. Take some pressure off of the middle, and put some heat on the QB from the edge for crying’ in the night (you know, what Michael Bennet WAS doing, before we let him go…and what Michael Johnson is SUPPOSED to be doing….)!?
February 16th, 2015 at 2:23 pm
Michael McCrary
• Tony Siragusa
• Sam Adams
Rob Burnett
The Statistics: 10.5 points per game, 55.9 rush yards per game, 35 sacks and 61 forced turnovers.
February 16th, 2015 at 2:27 pm
I personally wouldn’t do it, but there is a bit of reasoning in doing the deal that I could understand. First of all, he’s the best player available in free agency. It’s never a bad thing to add elite talent to your roster, no matter the position. Second, he would instantly make our pass rush incredibly formidable, where any average DE would be able to wreak havoc. Third, his style would match well with McCoy. Suh is a one trick pony when it comes to rushing the passer. He is a bull rusher, and a bull rusher only. Essentially, he’s a nose tackle that just so happens to be one of the best pass rushers in the game. I could see he and McCoy working very well together.
However, he’s just going to command way too much money, and I’m not sure he’s going to get any better, unless he develops some other moves besides a bull rush. With all the holes we have on this roster, I think there’s better ways we could spend our money. But you definitely won’t hear me complain if we were to somehow make it happen.
February 16th, 2015 at 2:33 pm
Trade down with Cleveland. acquire a D left end. O line, guards and tackles. a linebacker, safety and corner. Build from within, build up a core.
You can have the best surgeon in the world, if you do not have an operating theater with staff, it matters not.
February 16th, 2015 at 2:36 pm
Bucs will have their dominant D-Lineman to put next to GMC when they draft Leonard Williams who is the best, most dominating player in the draft
February 16th, 2015 at 2:42 pm
@White Tiga
If you have Suh & McCoy in the Middle-
You could put cheaper options in Derrick Morgan, George Johnson, and Jacquies Smith on the outside and reach madd havoc
February 16th, 2015 at 2:44 pm
I hear ya Joe. I just don’t agree. You’re the one begging for pressure. Somehow. Some way. Suh is a way. Would it be pricey? Sure would. Would it be tough to block? Yes.
And they wouldn’t have to play the same position. Suh would play nose. And on certain downs and plays, you could swing McCoy out to play the base end. He’s have a field day out there versus a RT. lol
February 16th, 2015 at 2:51 pm
Solid Rotation
56 Jacquies Smith DE 24 6-2 260
93 George Johnson DE 27 6-4 263
93 Gerald McCoy DT 26 6-4 300
90 Ndamukong Suh DT 28 6-4 305
98 Clinton McDonald DT 28 6-2 297
91 Derrick Morgan DE 26 6-3 261
February 16th, 2015 at 2:56 pm
It’s an improbable move, but the vision of DLine dominance is really something. I say this, with Suh and McCoy disrupting the middle of the line of scrimmage…the pocket repeatedly collapsing on the QB, no run game up the middle, opposing offenses limited in play selection. Who do you double-team on any given play? And what happens on that unexpected blitz? I wouldn’t want to play against that DLine, not with Suh and McCoy at the same time. A dominant Dline will make an average secondary much better.
February 16th, 2015 at 2:57 pm
We have Mccoy to play the 3 tech. We dont need to overpay someone to do the same exact thing. Unless they plan on trading one for a bounty of draft picks, having half your salary taken up by dtackles when you dont even have a QB is just stupid. Now getting Greg Hardy for a reasonable price(sitting out 15 game has to hurt his market value a little bit) to pass rush at RDE and take on the best LT’S in the Legaue now thats reasonable. A dominant dline can mask some of the growing pain our new mike lb will encounter. But Suh is not the answer.
February 16th, 2015 at 3:27 pm
Well at least he doesn’t steal crab legs lol
February 16th, 2015 at 3:28 pm
I would take Suh at the right price and GMC would have to take cut as well if the two wanted to play together, but Suh and GMC side by side would be crazy hard to block.
February 16th, 2015 at 3:28 pm
You could make this move if you have no plans of using FA this year. One move of taking him and then having to wait a few years to start up FA again. I think it pigeonholes us.
February 16th, 2015 at 3:36 pm
I think it is crazy I think the number if we signed Suh and Mccoy together would take about 20% of our overall cap space. That is why I don’t put to much in reading much from the guys on PR because they are rooting hard for the Bucs to get SUH, they have a lot of nonsensical articles like one on Nick Carter .
February 16th, 2015 at 3:54 pm
I can see both sides of the argument on going after Suh. The possibilities with McCoy and Suh playing next to each other in the middle are truly intriguing. Talk about instant upgrade. Suh will cost $15M per year and McCoy is averaging $13.5M per year. That’s really just too much to be spending on DTs from a practical viewpoint. On the other hand – if we hang on to Glennon and draft a QB – we will not have much $ tied up in QBs for the next 3 or 4 years – so it is doable for awhile.
Consider that by cutting McCown ($5M), Collins ($3M), Koenen ($3M) and Goldson($4M) – all of which are probably getting axed anyway because all sucked last year – there’s your ready made Suh money right there.
But back to sanity. We have a very capable starter in McDonald to play next to GMC and he’s locked up at $3M per year for the next 3 years. Considering the # of holes that need filling – we should spread the available cap space around more than signing Suh would allow. If they don’t fix the OL we are dead in the water no matter what – AGAIN. So I would much rather see them go all out fixing the OLine by any and all means necessary than to spend those same resources going after Suh.
February 16th, 2015 at 4:16 pm
(Non Guaranteed Contracts)
• LG-Logan Mankins- $7,000,000
• C-Evan Dietrich-Smith – $3,750,000
• P-Michael Koenen- $3,250,000
(Restructure/Trade/Release Candidates)
• Vincent Jackson WR- $12,209,777
• Michael Johnson 43DE – $9,000,000
• Dashon Goldson S – $8,000,000
• Anthony Collins RT- $6,000,000
Average Compensation for Draft Selection
• 2nd Round- $1,194,303
• 3rd Round- $726,023
• 4th Round- $595,000
• 5th Round- $563,000
(Possible Draft Selections)
• LG-Donovan Smith Penn State 6-6 341 (3rd Round)
• C- B.J. Finney KSU 6-4 324 (5th Round)
• RG-Laken Tomlinson Duke 6-3 323 (2nd Round)
• RT-Rob Havenstein Wisconsin 6-7 332 (4th Round)
February 16th, 2015 at 4:25 pm
If we trade down-grab a bunch of Draft Picks-Would could completely revamp the Offensive Line w/draft picks.
Then with the (Non Guaranteed Contracts) –(Restructure/Trade/Release Candidates)-We could sign Hardy & Suh, + give Lavonte David his extension..
Lol and still have about $30 Million in cap space.
February 16th, 2015 at 4:29 pm
I wouldn’t say anything that makes this team better is idiotic, but adding Suh is a little bit farfetched and unrealistic.
February 16th, 2015 at 4:37 pm
Leonard Williams
February 16th, 2015 at 4:47 pm
Lol I kinda agree, but it just shows how joe is a average joe like us all trying to compare signing suh and mccoy(a TANDEM) to the colts aqquiring aaron rodgers. How does that even make sense honestly? Two quarterbacks can’t be on the field at the same time. Two defensive tackles can. Suh would be a waste, but hey mr drsft and free agency guru joe, how did signing all those FA work last year? A argument could be made not signing any of them and putting Michael Johnson and Anthony collins money to suh would have helped us out more. Cause 3.5 sacks, and a guy who couldn’t hold a starting job at LT for a full season BUT got paid like a elite left tackle. It’s just a idea that’s not nearly as stupid as your trying to make it sound in your fail post. You’re not a GM and have no clue either, believe me a NFL executive isent gonna tell you sh*t unless he wants it to be leaked. NFL is a sneaky and scheming business. A logical comparison would be the lions signing demaryius thomas. Sign greg hardy or Hughes. Signing suh wouldn’t be a waste, it just isent likely. A couple analyst who have to choose who the Bucs will grab at 1 Id they don’t take a QB say leonard williams a DEFENSIVE TACKLE.
February 16th, 2015 at 4:50 pm
It’s nonsense to try and bring in Suh, but makes sense to draft an accused rapist. #TheCreepyCrab say What What?
February 16th, 2015 at 4:51 pm
not as crazy as people think. i’m assuming that QB, LT, and DE are draft priorities this summer and next. that’s 3 of the highest paid veterans on a roster that will be covered by rookie contracts for 4 years, which is what i’d guess Suh would be uncuttable for. Suh is one of the few FAs that i am confident would be the same player on a new team, and his signing removes pressure to sign a top shelf CB or Safety and means your interior pass rush gives you the freedom to not overpay a FA DE. unless we are going to spend silly money in FA every offseason, we actually have room over the next 3 seasons for some weird cap structures before our #1 overall QB, mike evans, and hopefully ASJ and some of this year’s draft picks are due a big raise.
February 16th, 2015 at 5:07 pm
pick6 Says:
February 16th, 2015 at 4:51 pm
we actually have room over the next 3 seasons for some weird cap structures before our #1 overall QB, mike evans, and hopefully ASJ and some of this year’s draft picks are due a big raise.
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If all 3 of those players get a nice 2nd contract from the Buccaneers – it means L&L will have done a good job, still be employed in Tampa Bay and the Bucs are “relevant” again. We can hope can’t we?
February 16th, 2015 at 5:11 pm
Signing Suh to anything close to $15 makes cutting Revis last year even more inexcusable. If you have $30-35 million for Suh and McCoy, and don’t for Revis and McCoy, the priorities are seriously misguided.
February 16th, 2015 at 5:23 pm
a shutdown DT tandem does alot more for a Tampa 2 team than a shutdown CB. you need at least 2 DL who can be unblockable when they’re on. there’s no rule that says one has to be an edge rusher. the DE positions on the front 4 can even be manned by gholston or clayborn type guys that you couldn’t get away with on a weaker line.
To put it another way, the detroit lions who have way more premium contracts to juggle than we do are seriously considering paying Suh $26 million next year to keep him off the market. we’d spend a couple million more than that to have both Suh AND McCoy.
February 16th, 2015 at 5:31 pm
Either one is lined upon the outside shoulder of the guard, or the other is lined upon right over the center’s nose (Either one can switch). Disruptive-Relentless Interior pass-rush, immediately puts pressure on the ball. Because the tackles are basically on the ball.
Sic’ Em boyz
February 16th, 2015 at 5:36 pm
pay jason pierre paul or jerry hughes 10-12 million or pay suh 14 million? i know which i would rather do
February 16th, 2015 at 5:37 pm
I don’t see why all the hate joe? Hell I’d love to see my bucs with 2 dominant lineman
February 16th, 2015 at 5:41 pm
@luvmybucs
If you do that, you might as well switch to a 3-4 front utilizing either William Gholston or Michael Johnson as a DE…you would actually overload the middle and force run & plays to the edges.
That would not be good for us. It would channel our plays to a weakness, not strength.
The purpose of the alignment is to direct plays and zone schemes where the defensive coordinator wants the play to go…into the teeth of his defense.
The reason we play a over/under tackle is – if the offense wants one tackle to freeze – they throw some play action at you and pass from a running formation…in order for that formation to work, both guys would immediately running a two-gap system. Thats why you see more of it from defenses with a 3-4 alignment.
3-4 alignments are kind of married to a secondary that is very capable of playing man coverage. The alignment isn’t designed to get sacks, so much as it’s meant to collapse a pocket before the QB is ready. It allows more speedy DB’s to attack the routes of the WR…
Ours is built on making the QB feel pressure – and thereby cause the QB to either wait till the WR clears (opening himself up to a sack) or throwing the ball too soon for an incompletion or INT.
The alignment is key, I’m sure it could work and it might be the plan..but it would have to complement the backers and corners. I don’t think a strong middle with “also ran” edges…
Then again, the only time I’ve seen a hybrid 4-3 experimented with is when Raheem tinkered with it out of necessity – without adequate talent up front – it was more of a compromise than a deterrent.
I’ve always been a fan of Suh…I wonder how much baggage comes with signing Suh? Theres a reason Detroit is letting a relatively young, former 1st rounder go…
February 16th, 2015 at 5:47 pm
@White Tiger
Actually, New England used the same Hybrid Front w/ Richard Seymour, Ted Washington, Willie McGinest and Bobby Hamilton. They forced 49 turnover, 83.4 rush yards per game and 41 sacks. All Good points though
February 16th, 2015 at 5:49 pm
It became nearly impossible for teams to block, unless they went to max protection,–which limited the downfield success of the offenses.
February 16th, 2015 at 6:32 pm
White Tiger Says:
February 16th, 2015 at 5:41 pm
“Theres a reason Detroit is letting a relatively young, former 1st rounder go…”
Yea – $26.7 MILLION reasons actually. That’s what Detroit would have to pay Suh next year to franchise him and keep him another year. Or sign him to a long term deal with a bunch of guaranteed $ for $14-$15M per year and a big signing bonus. They almost certainly can’t afford either most likely.
February 16th, 2015 at 6:38 pm
The Lions are not seriously considering tagging Suh. That they say they are is not relevant, they are more or less obligated to lie. Keeping Suh means cutting Stafford or Megatron, and that sure isn’t happening. They might work out a long term deal, but there is a 0% chance they tag him. Basically tagging him is going all in for next year because when his cap hit becomes over $30 million the next year, it’s over.
You know what we could really do that’d be wiser than any Bucs move in recent memory? Stay the hell out of FA. A few depth signings, a few extensions to current guys, and be done with it. No big splurges, how many times do we have to get torched before we learn our lesson?
February 16th, 2015 at 6:45 pm
Well if we signed Suh and Winston, we would have a lot of news to read. Just think what heights Suh would be able to take him.
February 16th, 2015 at 6:48 pm
It won’t happen, but it sure would be cool to see them side by side in real games.
February 16th, 2015 at 7:04 pm
Your argument comparing the Colts signing Aaron Rodgers to the Bucs signing Suh is not equitable, since Suh and Mcoy would be on the field at the same time while Rodgers ans Luck would not.
February 16th, 2015 at 7:25 pm
Suh is a maggot. If the NFL has any self respect they would kick this guy out of the league. He purposefully comes up with creative dirty ways to take out the other teams players, however he can. He is the definition of unsportsmanlike like behavior. If Winston was charged and found guilty of rape, I would not support him either, but he wasn’t. The rest of his off field stuff you would have never heard about if he didn’t win a national championship. Suh on the other hand, we have seen enough tape of his sh*t. No one needs this waste of human flesh.
February 16th, 2015 at 9:07 pm
Well DT is one of the few positions the Bucs have talent/depth. That money could be used to address the many holes on this roster.
February 16th, 2015 at 11:06 pm
This debate is exactly why we need to draft MM or Winston. There are only 2 types of players that never hit the free agent market, franchise QB’s and franchise MLB’s (Lewis, Urlacher, Kuechly). Everybody else can be commonly found in later draft spots/rounds or in FA. QB’s are predominantly found in the top 5 of the draft….we need one, and betting on finding one anywhere else is foolish. (but it is possible)
Suh could make sense, McCoy has lined up at DE on several occasions. Adding Suh would offer some interesting scheme potential. Plus, it would be funny to see the opposing centers play with turds in their pants.
February 16th, 2015 at 11:24 pm
“You know what we could really do that’d be wiser than any Bucs move in recent memory? Stay the hell out of FA.”
There’s a big part of me that wants to agree with this. Thanks to the new CBA and the “cap floor”, rebuilding is necessarily different than it used to be.
February 17th, 2015 at 10:37 am
PewterReport still going on with this dumb idea of getting Suh. They are about the only website that wants this to happen while everyone else sees the bigger holes that needs addressing
February 17th, 2015 at 11:17 am
“Suh could make sense, McCoy has lined up at DE on several occasions. Adding Suh would offer some interesting scheme potential. Plus, it would be funny to see the opposing centers play with turds in their pants.”
– hell yeah to that^^ especially the turds in pants part and sheme potential,
then again: with Lovie?
@Dreambig: about “suh a maggaot” thing.. i hope you are not one of these rooting for Hardy?
If the league realy is about to teach life lessons and stuff, they would just make it a ruling, that violence towards children and women will not be tolerated >>> life ban; could be so easy to do the right thing and would pretty sure help a lot of troubled women out there… who have to live in fear getting beat up again….
Imagine those players would actually have to fear about loosing all those big big privileges that they got, from simply being good at sports..
but no..
as of right now, they collect big money and can molester people the way they want..
screw that shhhh