Worst Quarterback Situations
February 14th, 2015
Sporting News isn’t enamored with Mike Glennon.
Hey, did you watch your Bucs play last year, two years ago, hell, three-quarters of the seasons since Brad Johnson won the Super Bowl? Gruesome, right?
Joe thinks Bucs fans have become so accustomed to godawful quarterback play, they don’t know any better.
David Steele of the Sporting News took at look at the teams with the worst quarterback situations in the NFL and guess what? Those Pewter Pirates made an appearance at No. 2.
Can it be fixed? Yes, by using the first pick in the draft on either Mariota or Jameis Winston … if they don’t find a player at another position they want more. Going with one of those two seems like a no-brainer, but April 29 is far away.
Lovie Smith whiffed on his first franchise-QB choice, Josh McCown. Glennon’s future as an NFL starter is unclear. Whoever ends up with the job will have another new offensive coordinator, Dirk Koetter, and an offensive line in shambles.
So many Bucs fans run away to hide and stick their heads in the sands of Treasure Island, plug their ears with their fingers and hum, “LAH-LAH-LAH-LAH-LAH-LAH-LAH-LAH-LAH-LAH-LAH-LAH-LAH-LAH-LAH-LAH-LAH-LAH-LAH-LAH-LAH,” claiming reaching for a left tackle in the draft will make all the problems at quarterback go away.
The Bucs’ quarterback problems are like a cyst. Unless you take care of it, it only grows worse.
Get your quarterback (April 30), and then you can build the offensive line for the next three years. At least the quarterback spot will be resolved.
February 14th, 2015 at 8:48 am
David Carr knows other wise.
Dude took such a beating the first three years on the Texans he was never the same.
Draft the QB and protect him. Play calling can help. You have to do both.
February 14th, 2015 at 8:50 am
Concur Joe … we must pick a QB with our #1 pick. Then with our #34 pick we can go OL, and MLB with our third round choice hopefully. Lots of holes to fill obviously, but those three should be our highest priorities. The Bucs also need to pick up a very good tackle or guard in FA … as an absolute minimum.
February 14th, 2015 at 8:52 am
Redskins and Browns have a had great left tackles for years now (Trent Williams in DC but before that 10+ seasons of Chris Samuels and then Joe Thomas in Cleveland)…. their offenses have consistently been among the best, along with their teams, in that time… it’s all about the LT… obviously… it fixes EVERYTHING!
February 14th, 2015 at 8:53 am
Get your quarterback (April 30), and then you can build the offensive line for the next three years. At least the quarterback spot will be resolved.
Again that presumes that one of the two QB’s available is the answer. But the nothing ventured nothing gained have convinced me.
I’m now solidly in the Mariota camp. All the talk about taking snaps from under center is just that….talk. Throwing into tight windows can also equal forcing the ball. Forcing the ball in college against some suspect secondaries talent wise got Fameis into double digit interceptions both of his seasons. Last year he led the ACC and was 2nd in the nation.
I’ve now seen enough tape of Mariota to believe he can learn to take snaps from center, he’s already been reading defenses, and I’ve seen him hit some tight windows. He is a better physical specimen, much faster and mobile in the pocket and his lanky frame will fill out nicely as he ages.
I give Fameis props for dropping the weight before pro days and interviews. He’s been working hard good for him. But you can see from his body type that weight will be a life long challenge. Can you say Byron Leftwich or Sean King?
Ok the King comment was cheap shot! LMAO. Fameis would have to live at Dunkin Donuts to catch the Pillbury dough boy.
I just think these guys are not that far apart. Mariota has more upside and unlike all the others who love FSU”s offense as prep for the NFL I think Mariota has actually had more time in what the NFL will look like going forward.
No not the run option fakes but certainly spread high powered offenses with many snaps taking place in the ‘gun. Did anybody keep track of how often Aaron Rodgers took snaps in the gun when the Pack played us this year.
This year’s SB was a watershed moment in the NFL. We saw the last of a dying breed in Brady and the future in Wilson. Mariota represents the future Fameis is the past.
BTW if we do draft Fameis the QB I hope he most emulates will be Favre. That’s who he reminds me of..a tough gritty guy who doesn’t hesitate to force the ball and is either feast or famine. Perhaps Fameis can feast enough to make us forget the famine ala Favre.
February 14th, 2015 at 8:55 am
biff barker Says:
February 14th, 2015 at 8:48 am
David Carr knows other wise.
Dude took such a beating the first three years on the Texans he was never the same.
Draft the QB and protect him. Play calling can help. You have to do both.
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David Carr’s biggest problem is holding onto the ball too long. Even when he had protection, he took sacks. He had to see his receivers open before he’d throw it…. your argument is invalid.
Aaron Rodgers got the piss beat out of him his first season as a starter… line was bad, he also held onto the ball too long. NFL history is littered full of great QBs that had crap LTs to start their careers.
February 14th, 2015 at 8:59 am
StPeteBucsFan Says:
February 14th, 2015 at 8:53 am
Get your quarterback (April 30), and then you can build the offensive line for the next three years. At least the quarterback spot will be resolved.
Again that presumes that one of the two QB’s available is the answer. But the nothing ventured nothing gained have convinced me.
I’m now solidly in the Mariota camp. All the talk about taking snaps from under center is just that….talk. Throwing into tight windows can also equal forcing the ball. Forcing the ball in college against some suspect secondaries talent wise got Fameis into double digit interceptions both of his seasons. Last year he led the ACC and was 2nd in the nation.
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His number of interceptions (17), are the exact same number Glennon threw as a 5th year senior at NC St…and that was without all of college football giving them their best every week (and with two weeks to prepare).
Mariota taking snaps under center IS a big deal. My mother could take a snap from center… but that’s not all it is a really about. It’s about receiving the snap, having your steps from center measured precisely by both number and distance, knowing eye placement at each step, hitting the final step and then progressing through reads while continuously stepping as each progression is made…. that is a lot of work… especially for my mom… or somebody else that has never done that before… like Mariota….who’s also never read a defense prepared for a pro style set.
February 14th, 2015 at 9:00 am
Pick QB and yeah, playcalling will help.
+ get Torrey Smith WR: unlike Marshall (who Joe advocates) Smith is 4 years younger + also very good, with Mike Evans our 1-2 WR punch would be complete for the foreseeable future.. (can draft a slot WR anytime the next 4 years.. even Bucs should be able to do that..)
+ system helps: But not the usual “back in the day” thing the Pro-style, whatever that is..
NFL isn´t a ever evolving league… Spread systems can´t work.. Pistol? heck no, ask gruden, he recently won a superbowl.
YOu want INSTANT success? You have to draft Winston, no chance with Mariota:
You saw what Kapernick, Russel wilson, RGIII, Cam Newton (especially with Rob Chudzinki) did…
No one ever had some kind of success and they are soooo long in the league…
The typicall drop back thrower are the way to go, and straight up, formations with Maryland style 2 FB´s on field…
No mikey mouse Spread-option-spead-in-space shhhh – leave that to chip Kelly and the non-producing Eagles offense….
February 14th, 2015 at 9:03 am
No QB will last 3 years of pounding without an line to protect him.
February 14th, 2015 at 9:07 am
The Bucs fans knew that we needed help ever since the Super Bowl win and then we never won a playoff game again. Why, coaching, picking players, and no good QB.
Since everyone on this site is paid millions to select the best players and they are, we also so have to realize that the Bucs organization is doing the picking and which QB they pick is who we are going to live with for awhile.
As for the OL, without a good OL and you pick a potential
franchise QB, it is kind of buying a Tesla and parking it on the street in a bad part of town. Doesn’t last.
So Happy Valentine’s Day to all the ladies of and for the Bucs, including any of the Joes who are really Joettes.
February 14th, 2015 at 9:09 am
If Glennon were given a honest and fair shot as the starter and took the Bucs to the playoffs, his haters would still be banging the drum to bench him or release him. I said it before and i’ll say it again. If Glennon were a black QB winning Rookie of the Year, Set Team records, and set NFL records he would have been given every opportunity as a starter and given time to develop. Is this not true?
February 14th, 2015 at 9:10 am
The Bucs allowed 50 sacks and 124 hits last year. In 3 years that would be 150 sacks and 372 hits. What QB will live through that?
February 14th, 2015 at 9:10 am
@Brandon
“NFL history is littered full of great QBs that had crap LTs to start their careers”
Bold Statement-Can you provide a list of 5 please.
February 14th, 2015 at 9:13 am
EXCELLENT post
StPeteBucsFan Says:
February 14th, 2015 at 9:14 am
@Barry If Glennon were a pink and purple QB winning Rookie of the Year, Set Team records, and set NFL records he would have been given every opportunity as a starter and given time to develop.
He did not win Rookie of the year. He is nowhere on the Passing Leaders list for Buccaneers, and what NFL record does he hold?
February 14th, 2015 at 9:17 am
@Brandon
“Mariota taking snaps under center IS a big deal. My mother could take a snap from center…”
Brandon with all due respect to your mom, I feel uncomfortable talking about anybody’s mother in other than respectful terms, was she a multi-sport star.
From Mariota’s bio…
Also a standout track and field athlete, Mariota was a state track qualifier in the sprinting and jumping events.[10] At the 2010 National Underclassman Combine, he won the camp’s “Fastest Man” and “Combine King” awards after running a 4.48-second 40-yard dash. At the 2011 HHSAA T&F Championships, he earned fourth-place finishes in both the 200-meter dash (23.41 s) and the long jump (20 ft, 7 in),
Now I’m going to assume your momma is very smart….she raised you right. 🙂
But so is Mariota..
Ducks offensive coordinator Scott Frost told ESPN.com’s Adam Rittenberg that his star QB is “freakishly smart” and stated that his interceptions mainly come when he is pressured, “He’s freakishly smart, especially when it comes to football. He sees things and processes things so quickly that he just doesn’t make a ton of mistakes.”
He has he brains, he has the athleticism. It won’t take him long to master taking snaps from center. I suspect he’s already been working everyday with his QB Guru.
And finally. Marcus is the future…Fameis is the past.
From the Bleacherreport…
As the NFL looked to the college game for advanced passing inspiration, pro teams spread the field with more wide receivers, passed far more and let their quarterbacks line up in the shotgun to avoid the pass rush.
Single-back offenses fell out of favor, and running backs became far more specialized. With most teams using two, three or four running backs like Swiss army knives, there’s less overall running than there was a decade ago, but it’s more effective.
In every way, NFL offense has changed dramatically over the past 10 years—and for the better.
February 14th, 2015 at 9:19 am
Eli Manning-1st round (1st overall) of the 2004 NFL Draft
Giants Offensive
• LT-Luke Petitgout-1st round (19th overall) of the 1999 NFL Draft.
• C-Shaun O’Hara-3-time Pro Bowler
• RG-Chris Snee-2nd round (34th overall) of the 2004 NFL Draft.
• RT-David Diehl-1-time Pro Bowler
Note:
• Two Premium Picks Luke Petitgout/ Chris Snee
• Two Future Pro Bowlers- Shaun O’Hara/ David Diehl
Amazing how so many successful QB’s walked into turnkey offensive line situations.
Equally sad to see soooooooooooo many QB’s with potential. Played with terrible offensive lines–Turn skittish, and terrified’ under relentless pressure–and never panned out.
February 14th, 2015 at 9:21 am
Carson Palmers Offensive Line (When he started)
Carson Palmer- 1st round (1st overall) of the 2003 NFL Draft.
• LT-Levi Jones- 1st round (10th overall) of the 2002 NFL Draft.
• LG-Eric Steinbach- 2nd round (33rd overall) of the 2003 NFL Draft.
• RG-Bobbie Williams- 2nd round (61st overall) of the 2000 NFL Draft.
• RT-Willie Anderson- 1st round (10th overall) of the 1996 NFL Draft.
Note
C-Rich Braham was a seasoned 10yr vet (Free Agent Signing)
February 14th, 2015 at 9:23 am
Funny how the Jamesis faithful will twist any comments around to justify the guy.
I truly hope the Glazers have learned from the Freeman experience.
February 14th, 2015 at 9:24 am
Will be nice to have some optimism at the QB spot this season. Regardless of which one is picked. I think we’ll shore up the holes in the O-line pretty well in FA this year and go QB/MLB with the first 2 picks. Draft for depth/potential with the remaining rounds, focusing on pass rushers and defensive backs.
Lovie went all offense last year and it didn’t pan out too well, I get the feeling he will want to put more of a defensive footprint on the draft this year.
February 14th, 2015 at 9:25 am
BTW…there is an interesting article on PR about McCoy teaming up with Suh…find it
February 14th, 2015 at 9:28 am
@LuvMyBucs
Props to you for documenting your points and doing the research. I’ll remember to never debate you here without first making sure of my facts. Good posts.
February 14th, 2015 at 9:33 am
David Steele is an idiot who obviously hasn’t watch any tape on Glennon.
February 14th, 2015 at 9:34 am
2x Super Champion (Ben Roethlisberger Rookie Offensive Line)
• LT Marvel Smith 2nd / 38th pick
• LG Alan Faneca 1st / 26th pick / 1998
• C Jeff Hartings 1st / 23rd pick / 1996 (–Detroit Lions)
• RG Keydrick Vincent <-Young Mauler at the time
• RT Oliver Ross
15-1-0 <-Team Finished
Off course -Ben had a GREAT DEFENSE & RUSHING ATTACK–Before he arrived
February 14th, 2015 at 9:35 am
@StPeteBucsFan
Thank you brotha–Luv your work.
Expecting Brandon to come back w/ some heat though…lol
February 14th, 2015 at 9:44 am
Barry I believe you have made the dumbest augment ever. Hopefully you were drunk when you typed that dribble. Not even sure what you were trying to say exactly but I can assure if Glennon had done all that the color of his skin would not matter and the Bucs would not have the first overall pick. Alas “the cannon” did none of this and the Bucs desperately need a real QB!
February 14th, 2015 at 9:51 am
Note:
Doug Williams left Tampa and Joined the Hogs
(The Hogs)
• LT -Joe Jacoby
• LG -Raleigh McKenzie
• C -Russ Grimm / Jeff Bostic
• RG -Mark May
• RT – Jim Lachey
February 14th, 2015 at 9:53 am
Steve Young was traded and Joined a very good offensive line
• LT-Bubba Paris
• LG-Guy McIntyre
• C- Jesse Sapolu
• RG-Bruce Collie
• RT-Harris Barton
February 14th, 2015 at 10:19 am
@brandon
“that is a lot of work… especially for my mom…”
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Lol
February 14th, 2015 at 10:34 am
@LUVMYBUCS:
Posted previously by me.
How to get a franchise QB
LT Costanzo 1st round in 2011
LG Mewhart 2nd round in 2014
C Harrison UDFA in 2014
RG Thornton 3rd round in 2013
RT Cherilus 1st round in 2008
The shortest is 6’3″.
The lightest is 308 lbs.
Draft Andrew Luck with the 1st pick overall.
tickrdr
February 14th, 2015 at 10:56 am
If the Bucs go QB at #1 (which I’m still not entirely convinced will happen…i.e. trade down for more picks) I agree with StPeteBucsFan and others that Mariota is the guy. I don’t know how anyone can watch that Oregon/FSU game and think that Winston is the guy. I don’t care about snaps under center or “pro-style offenses”, or any of that crap. Mariota is very smart, extremely gifted athleticly, doesn’t seem to make many mistakes, and doesn’t come with any huge question marks about his off the field behavior! Exactly what a team like Tampa needs….a guy who can scramble, throw on the run, and not turn the ball over! That combined with an improved offensive line and some more pressure on opposing QBs will make us at least competitive again!
February 14th, 2015 at 11:08 am
With Free Agency pending, how does anybody know what the Bucs will need come draft day (good movie btw)?
The only position(s) that there’s a guaranteed hole at come draft day (good movie btw) is at QB and offensive line.
So mock this …
1. QB
2-8th. Nobody knows anything
February 14th, 2015 at 11:23 am
I hate to say it but I see Sam Bradford in our future
February 14th, 2015 at 11:30 am
Jim Says:
February 14th, 2015 at 9:14 am
@Barry If Glennon were a pink and purple QB winning Rookie of the Year, Set Team records, and set NFL records he would have been given every opportunity as a starter and given time to develop.
He did not win Rookie of the year. He is nowhere on the Passing Leaders list for Buccaneers, and what NFL record does he hold?
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First Rookie ever to throw a TD pass in his first Eight games
First Rookie ever to throw 10 TDs to one INT
February 14th, 2015 at 11:38 am
Other than Luck, all the #1s projected below is non-franchise material. Glennon picked # 73 sounds like a steal to me. What do you think?
Mike Mayock’s
NFL DRAFT QB projection rankings:
2009
1. Mark Sanchez picked #5 NYJ
2. Matthew Stafford picked #1 DET
3. Josh Freeman picked #17 TB
2010
1. Sam Bradford picked #1 STL
2. Jimmy Clausen picked #48 CAR
3. Tim Tebow picked #25 DEN
2011
1. Blaine Gabbert picked #10 JAX
2. Cam Newton picked #1 CAR
3. Jake Locker picked #8 TEN
2012
1. Andrew Luck picked #1 IND
2. Robert Griffin III picked #2 WAS
3. Ryan Tannehill picked #8 MIA
NR Russell Wilson picked #75 SEA
NR Nick Foles picked #88 PHI
2013
1. Geno.Smith picked #39 NYJ
2. E.J. Manuel picked #16 BUF
3. Matt Barkley picked #98 PHI
T5. Mike Glennon picked #73 TB
2014
1. Johnny Manziel #22 CLE
2. Blake Bortles picked #3 JAX
3. Derek Carr picked #36 OAK
T5. Teddy Bridgewater picked #32 MIN
2015
1. Jameis Winston
2. Marcus Mariota
3. Bryce Petty
February 14th, 2015 at 11:55 am
knuckledragger
Don’t forget 8 is also the first QB to double digit losses in his draft class…. What’s is 8’s record as a starter again????? All that other crap is just that crap… Does he make people better around him and win games. the answer is NO….
Glennon is a backup raise your standards. he had every chance to beat out the worst starting QB in decades and he could not do that convincingly. I know lovie is a big meany and unfair but a true winner would have taken his opportunities and made the best not digress.
February 14th, 2015 at 11:59 am
Mariota is injury prone like RGIII. Vick and Cam.
I’ve been hearing that running QB’s are the future of the NFL since Randall Cunningham…then it was when Vick got drafted. When is this “future of the NFL” going to happen?
February 14th, 2015 at 12:00 pm
it’s hilarious the folks on here still badgering joe about Johnny Football and how he failed this year and his career is over bs… We have watched Glennon fail each and every week as a starter. Again what is win loss record… So we have 6 qtrs of bad football on Johnny and he is washed up we have 19(76qtrs) games of pure mediocrity to pure crap play from Glennon yet you folks still ride the nuts…. wow…
February 14th, 2015 at 12:02 pm
@SPBF
I enjoyed your posts. I too am starting to think that Mariota would be a great fit for the Bucs. I like his speed and quick reaction time. I believe that Mariota will be our pick. I am not a Winston basher though and if the Bucs brass decides that Winston is the guy, then I will support that decission and hope they are right. Either guy, I believe will be a better QB than what we have had lately. With a weak OL, maybe Mariota’s speed and ability to escape the pocket while still finding an open target would extend some plays that may equate to a sack with Glennon or Winston.
February 14th, 2015 at 12:02 pm
There really ARE 2 types of people in the world:
1. People who realize that drafting a QB at #1 is the absolute right thing to do.
2. Stupid people
Draft the QB. No brainer. The Bucs can sign a solid free agent O-lineman and grab a solid O-line prospect with their ridiculously early 2nd round pick – where guys with first round grades will certainly still be available. You infuse 2 talented o-lineman into what the Bucs currently have – with a new position coach, no less – and watch how the compeyition for jobs improves the leftovers as well.
February 14th, 2015 at 12:05 pm
” with a new position coach, no less ”
there is no new position coach. Stubborn / Dinosaur Lovie kept Warhop… Yes, they hired an asst line coach but the same guy who coached that disaster last year will be leading the new Oline.
February 14th, 2015 at 12:15 pm
I’m still standing by my original stance that Bucs should either draft Leonard Williams or try to trade down.
However, if the Bucs do stay at #1 and take a QB. I sincerely hope that it’s Mariota as I think that he will be a dynamic and exciting star in this league, and I think Winston is just one great big giant disaster just waiting to happen
February 14th, 2015 at 12:31 pm
If the Bucs do draft Jameis Winston it will just continue the trend of bad QB decisions by the Bucs. The guy will be a huge bust on the field as he is highly overrated and off the field will be a huge punk. The guy stinks worse than yesterday’s garbage
February 14th, 2015 at 12:38 pm
MarshallU Says:
February 14th, 2015 at 12:31 pm
If the Bucs do draft Jameis Winston it will just continue the trend of bad QB decisions by the Bucs. The guy will be a huge bust on the field as he is highly overrated and off the field will be a huge punk. The guy stinks worse than yesterday’s garbage
You should stop watching the game of football as it is abundantly clear that you have no clue about the game.
Winston is considered by many to be the best QB coming out of college since Luck and yet you claim he stinks worse than yesterday’s garbage.
Make me a bycicle clown!!
February 14th, 2015 at 12:44 pm
Tony Says:
February 14th, 2015 at 12:02 pm
There really ARE 2 types of people in the world:
1. People who realize that drafting a QB at #1 is the absolute right thing to do.
2. Stupid people
Draft the QB. No brainer. The Bucs can sign a solid free agent O-lineman and grab a solid O-line prospect with their ridiculously early 2nd round pick – where guys with first round grades will certainly still be available. You infuse 2 talented o-lineman into what the Bucs currently have – with a new position coach, no less – and watch how the compeyition for jobs improves the leftovers as well.
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What new position coach? You realize the Bucs brought back Warhop right? You also are aware the Bucs have signed or traded for 5 offensive line starters in the last 3 years in FA and all have been failures, 3 of them spectacular failures yeah? You also realize the group that will be responsible for building the line is the same group who tore down the 2013 line, only to put out a much worse line in 2014?
Beyond all that, Lovie, the worst QB evaluator in football and one of the worst ever, is making this decision. He’s gonna take Mariota because of Christianity over all else. That doesn’t scare people? Scares the crap out of me,
February 14th, 2015 at 1:12 pm
JTHV, I look at what is best for the Bucs. I’m not involved in man crushes or hero worship. Grow up
February 14th, 2015 at 1:58 pm
MarshallU
Winning is what is best for bucs not filling the team with choir boys. Lovie and his choir boys were 2-14 add in Schiano angels and thats 6 wins in two years. Go watch church league softball if you’re looking for choir boys. I’ll take a winner like Winston which is truly in the best interest of the team. Winning is the goal not fielding a team with passionless choir boys who can’t finish games
February 14th, 2015 at 3:07 pm
tight windows matter, ask the seahawks.
February 14th, 2015 at 3:08 pm
win it’s in his name
@winninwithwinston #justwinstonbaby
February 14th, 2015 at 5:20 pm
tight windows matter, ask the seahawks.
Nope Lurker you just made my point. If Carroll calls the right play and fakes the ball to Lynch who everybody in the stadium thought would get the ball, one of the most mobile Qb’s in football rolls right and odds are strong he outruns the contain easily! No window necessary. Or if the contain does it’s job Wilson lobs it to a TE at the back of the end zone wide open. The Pats could not have defended all three of those options.
And IF by some miracle they did Wilson just throws the ball away and with a time out they can run beast mode two plays in a row.
Seattle made a Famies kind of play…FORCE..the football instead of using athleticism to be your opponents.
February 14th, 2015 at 6:37 pm
wilson threw a very poor pass, as mariota does often.
February 14th, 2015 at 9:31 pm
StPeteBucsFan Says:
February 14th, 2015 at 9:17 am
@Brandon
“Mariota taking snaps under center IS a big deal. My mother could take a snap from center…”
Brandon with all due respect to your mom, I feel uncomfortable talking about anybody’s mother in other than respectful terms, was she a multi-sport star.
From Mariota’s bio…
Also a standout track and field athlete, Mariota was a state track qualifier in the sprinting and jumping events.[10] At the 2010 National Underclassman Combine, he won the camp’s “Fastest Man” and “Combine King” awards after running a 4.48-second 40-yard dash. At the 2011 HHSAA T&F Championships, he earned fourth-place finishes in both the 200-meter dash (23.41 s) and the long jump (20 ft, 7 in),
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Jeff Demps was kinda fast too. I realize two different position but ‘fast’ ain’t enough.
February 14th, 2015 at 10:50 pm
I love how all these posters and Joe actually think these two qb’s are the second coming and all be all…. acting like these two boys will come and save the day… FYI I’m calling bullspit if these guys can come into the NFL ansave the damn team…. wow really I mean really? Here’s what’s going to happen we’re starting MG8 and taking the best player available and if he does not fit we’ll trade down for more picks… neither one of these qb’s can make any difference to our team at time. All you need to get off the pipe!!!!
February 15th, 2015 at 6:21 am
@Joe, I think St Pete Buc Fan thinks he is a writer. Hey St Pete, stop writing comments like they are articles. Not one person here, with any amount of a brain will read your comment thinking you have some contact, or even know you *ss from your elbow. Read @joes articles, than shhhh, stop trying to be st pete joe.
February 15th, 2015 at 2:47 pm
“I truly hope the Glazers have learned from the Freeman experience.”
Learn what, that picking a choir boy , ‘for his character’, doesn’t always work out?
Welcome to the uncertainty of the draft. As I recall, there were a pot full of people hight on him, after the 10 win season. then 2 1/2 VERY bad seasons and he’s gone. How much of that was all him, and how much a revolving door at OC and head case Schiano at the helm. He needed a new start, as did the Bucs, but I don’t put it ALL on him.