Jameis Watch: The Next Eli
February 7th, 2015
Crab-legs-stealing, BB-gun-shooting, obscenity-hollering, Heisman-Trophy-winning, former national champion Jameis Winston, the pride of Florida State University, continues to look like a much better quarterback prospect than Mike Glennon and Josh McCown.
It’s Joe’s daily nugget on the Jameis Watch, celebrating the best quarterback to wear No. 5 ever in the state of Florida.
Let Joe ask you, if the Bucs could draft an Eli Manning clone coming out of college, would you take the bait? Joe would fall over himself with that opportunity. Couldn’t fill out the draft card fast enough.
Well, Lance Zierlein of NFL.com believes Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston is the second coming of Manning.
Winston’s body type and release are very much like Byron Leftwich’s, but when you look at his skill set, his ability and his penchant for making poor decisions in giving the ball away unnecessarily with interceptions, that’s more like Eli. His game is more like Eli’s because he can hurt the other team and his own team with some of his decision making. The talent is there. The easy comparison is to Leftwich because he’s not a very mobile quarterback and has a very elongated delivery.
Ah, Winston is much more mobile than Leftwich, come on. Joe even spoke to an NFL general manager who was smitten with how quick Winston is as opposed to how quick he looked on TV.
As clutch as Manning is (two rings), Joe thinks Bucs fans would go wild with the thought of Winston winning two Super Bowl rings, as unrealistic as that sounds.
February 7th, 2015 at 7:22 pm
Eli Manning with the no. 1 pick the draft? Not sure about that.
2 SB wins, of course that would be amazing. But if that is the comparison, the chances of it happening are extremely, extremely low.
February 7th, 2015 at 7:23 pm
The comparison to traits of Eli and Leftwich are pretty spot on from the games I’ve watched.
February 7th, 2015 at 7:28 pm
Bleacher Report
2015 NFL Mock Draft: Bold Predictions for Key Prospects and Teams
By Adam Wells , Featured Columnist
Feb 4, 2015
1 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State
February 7th, 2015 at 7:28 pm
Great – the worst attributes of two very average starting QB’s…
More facts and clearer comparisons are being made.
Also, in order to get this guys attention – and to get him in the proper frame of mind for the amount of WORK he’s going to have to do to become really “NFL READY” – Fameis is going to need to slide down the draft board to make him WANT to listen to coaching to get better, to prove all those detractors wrong. He’s got talent, he just has no self-discipline, and his ego is simply WAY too big.
..just think there are too many teams (i.e., Tennessee) that NEED a QB so bad, they won’t let the correct lesson be taught.
He’s got enough talent to play in the NFL, he’s just SO far from being “NFL ready” from a maturity standpoint.
February 7th, 2015 at 7:33 pm
Cause I’m all about that Jameis, that Jameis…..No Mariota!
February 7th, 2015 at 7:33 pm
More Cow Bell Joe….
February 7th, 2015 at 7:38 pm
What do Vick, Cam, RGIII, and Mariota have in common?
They get hurt….a lot.
February 7th, 2015 at 7:47 pm
Eli wouldn’t have two super bowl rings without Tiki Barber and that defense.
You don’t have to look beyond Peyton’s season in Denver this year to see what Eli’s fate would have been had it not been for both Barber and that Strahan led defense…
Famous wouldn’t be getting the benefit of either of them.
February 7th, 2015 at 7:48 pm
I honestly thought this debate was over.
The World Renowned Prognosticator WS99 has already said that we are taking
Jameis Winston.
Conversation over.
We are taking Jameis Winston.
Get used to it.
Welcome to Tampa Mr. Winston.
February 7th, 2015 at 7:58 pm
@87, man you’re cracking me up with your references to pop songs, LOL!
February 7th, 2015 at 7:59 pm
@ White Tiger
Tiki Barber never earned a ring. He quit his team under contract like an immature brat because his coach was a big meanie head.
February 7th, 2015 at 7:59 pm
Mariota > Winston if we keep the pick
February 7th, 2015 at 7:59 pm
It’s that Leftwich-like delivery of Winston’s that scares hell outta me.
February 7th, 2015 at 8:01 pm
He’ll be the Eli for someone else…..Williams or trade down!
February 7th, 2015 at 8:02 pm
@white tiger. Did u seriously say that? Lol what a joke. Tiki quit before he could win the SB with Eli. Get ur facts straight
February 7th, 2015 at 8:06 pm
Uh-Oh White Tiger,
I hate it when facts screw up a great argument.
February 7th, 2015 at 8:07 pm
Well Lovie waited too long…Richie is going to sign with the Bills
Mariota > Winston……if we don’t trade down twice
February 7th, 2015 at 8:19 pm
Did they freaking just say he throw’s like Byron Leftwiche? No thanks, take Mariota. He seems like a better prospect down the road to me. Mariotta might be the best athlete in the whole NFC south and won’t show up on the police blotter. Case closed.
February 7th, 2015 at 8:30 pm
Mariota.
February 7th, 2015 at 8:33 pm
Um, no thank you. I’ll take the 2 Super Bowl rings, but Eli Manning is the polar opposite of his brother Peyton. Peyton Manning is the best regular-season QB of all time, but is a chronic choke artist in the playoffs. Eli Manning is the definition of a man carried by a team during the regular season, but somehow unleashes his inner Joe Montana during the playoffs. It baffles me.
Oh, and if Manning knew how to throw, Odell Beckham Jr. wouldn’t have been the next Johnny Rehab of the media for his spectacular catch.
February 7th, 2015 at 8:35 pm
His delivery is nothing like Leftwich these people are crazy. He is not mobile? Are you kidding me with that? Does this guy even watch the games? He also played the last 5 regular season games worn a badly sprained ankle but still played and won them all. Not having a good base will throw ones mechanics way off. But let’s not point out the facts let’s just make random comparisons to other black qbs. This guy is s hack.
February 7th, 2015 at 8:38 pm
ndog…you must admit Jameis has a long wind up with a 3/4 delivery….
February 7th, 2015 at 8:42 pm
No thanks to Eli. He isn’t that great. Would prefer Wilson and Peyton over Eli. Eli is probably the most overrated QB in the NFL.
February 7th, 2015 at 8:43 pm
Dave Pear! I doubt many here remember him, the first Buc to go to the pro bowl. He was an awesome defensive tackle. The Bucs are taking Winston. He is a winner.
February 7th, 2015 at 8:44 pm
@87
You forgot to add Romo, Rodgers, Manning, Rivera, Dalton, almost every QB is injured. Just whether they play through it. And they all do.
February 7th, 2015 at 8:44 pm
be aware of the bear! Dave Pear.
February 7th, 2015 at 8:48 pm
Eli Manning-1st round (1st overall) of the 2004 NFL Draft
Giants Offensive
• LT-Luke Petitgout-1st round (19th overall) of the 1999 NFL Draft.
• C-Shaun O’Hara-3-time Pro Bowler
• RG-Chris Snee-2nd round (34th overall) of the 2004 NFL Draft.
• RT-David Diehl-1-time Pro Bowler
Note:
• Two Premium Picks Luke Petitgout/ Chris Snee
• Two Future Pro Bowlers- Shaun O’Hara/ David Diehl
Amazing how so many successful QB’s walked into turnkey offensive lines.
Equally sad to see so many QB’s with potential played with terrible offensive lines.
Turned skittish, and terrified’ under relentless pressure–and never panned out.
February 7th, 2015 at 8:48 pm
As an old guy here, lets remember Jimmy Dubose the first Buc to rush over a 1,000 yards, Sarasota product.
February 7th, 2015 at 8:50 pm
Eli benefited from a productive offensive line, and a great defensive front. There’s no way he’s wins —two Super Bowls without that DLine.
February 7th, 2015 at 8:54 pm
Jimmy Dubois was awesome….I can still see the play when he blew out his knee…
February 7th, 2015 at 9:11 pm
@skipper
Yeah Jimmy was a beast-that entire Dubose family is full of athlete’s though
February 7th, 2015 at 9:13 pm
winston is like roethlisberger. same stature, mobility, and throwing mechanics.
from a fansided article dated 1/17/15:
“Manning — “It’s not like trying to throw a baseball, where a baseball you come all the way down here.”
Peyton describes exactly what Jameis Winston does — dips and throws the ball like a baseball player would. That makes sense, since Winston does play baseball for Florida State.
He will need to get his throwing motion ironed out for the combine and the draft and eventually, for when he takes the field on Sundays.
Winston can make the dip work. His throwing motion reminds me of Ben Roethlisberger’s motion, and Big Ben had a pretty darn good season in 2014. Here is Big Ben throwing, and compare that to Winston above.
This style of throwing isn’t ideal, but when you are as talented as Winston is, this mechanical flaw can be overlooked and can be fixed with good coaching in the NFL.”
link to big ben youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Cpf-BCXPk#t=72
February 7th, 2015 at 9:17 pm
Have yall seen the video of winstons improved mechanics/throwing motion??
February 7th, 2015 at 9:17 pm
This confirms what I have been saying all along.. Eli=Phil sims=flacco. No way to either one with the 1 overall. Both of guys need great pieces around them. Sorry joe no way I take Eli 1. We must trade down.
February 7th, 2015 at 9:17 pm
We used to have sign that read “we came here today, to see Jimmy Du play, his family lived down the street from me, one of my best moments when as a kid I met, Lee Roy Selmon, Jimmy Giles at Jimmy du’s parents house
February 7th, 2015 at 9:18 pm
Draft Winston problem is under pressure he’ll revert back. See tebow
February 7th, 2015 at 9:19 pm
“2015 NFL Mock Draft: Jameis Winston too talented for Bucs to pass up”
By Rob Rang | The Sports Xchange/CBSSports.com
January 25, 2015 11:10 pm ET
1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State: Winston’s off-field issues are a significant concern but allowing the local product to slip through their grasp might be even more frightening to head coach Lovie Smith and general manager Jason Licht. Smith might be precisely the steady hand that Winston needs to take full advantage of his undeniable talent. It isn’t difficult to imagine Tampa’s offense making a huge improvement in 2015 with the strong-armed and accurate Winston firing passes to huge targets Mike Evans, Vincent Jackson and Austin Seferian-Jenkins.
February 7th, 2015 at 9:19 pm
Manning won 2 SB’s with a great team and coach. They got hot at the right time and Eli just limited his mistakes, but wasn’t the reason they got there. And guys, the pieces were all around him!
Give us Tom Brady and were not making the playoffs with these Bums
February 7th, 2015 at 9:20 pm
J A M E I S……Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
February 7th, 2015 at 9:20 pm
Build the line AFTER they draft……
Jameis!
February 7th, 2015 at 9:22 pm
Lurker nice try. He’ll be under increased pressure in the nfl and his accuracy and int will increase. Bs don’t perform better in the nfl, they perform worse than college. We’ve alrea seen the best of Winston. Trade down!
February 7th, 2015 at 9:22 pm
Accuracy decrease, int increase
February 7th, 2015 at 9:24 pm
I want Winston mor than Mariota but with Winston’s delivery being compared to Leftwich; it kinda scares me off.
February 7th, 2015 at 9:25 pm
Preach it Brotha LUV! Even when its falling on deaf ears, keep preaching!
February 7th, 2015 at 9:27 pm
All you posters that keep saying Eli would not have won if he didn’t have a good o-line or d-line etc are way off. Tell me one qb that would have won a super bowl without a good team around him? Its a team game people. Eli was just as big of a factor as any other piece on those teams hence the two super bowl MVP awards. I mean Eli has been a pro bowler as well. Lets not act like he is some kind of scrub. Is he the best? No, but he is far from a scrub.
February 7th, 2015 at 9:28 pm
just cause you say so, right bucnut?
roethlisberger did well in 2014.
win, it’s in his name
#winninwithwinston #justwinstonbaby
February 7th, 2015 at 9:29 pm
who wouldn’t want eli instead of mccown or glennon?
February 7th, 2015 at 9:30 pm
Welcome to Tampa Jameis Winston!
February 7th, 2015 at 9:32 pm
why the hell have coaches if everyone is going to revert back to whatever they did in the sandlot under pressure? smh
either way, i’m sure that the bucs’ brass will do their due diligence for all the players at the top of the draft. they know more than us (it just doesn’t feel like it at times)
February 7th, 2015 at 9:34 pm
Jameis is a steaming pile and he is not fast that’s being dumb what’s his average yards per rush I think it’s around 1.8. Bucs are anti rape
February 7th, 2015 at 9:41 pm
and what kind of person is a new yorker?
February 7th, 2015 at 9:48 pm
Bucnut that is a possibility that he reverts back to old ways but to compare winston to tebow is ridiculous with winstons intelligence football iq and pure passing talent along with his ability to be coached up in my opinion since within a week or two is showing far better mechanics and with an off season and preseason there’s the good possibility of him being able to re program but who knows until he’s been around for a couple years I just feel he’s the best chance we have at a franchise qb that could win us division titles and more and the reward of having that vs the risk of him getting into trouble is far better to me especially considering if he does flop lovie is gone within another year or two and without without a true franchise qb new coaches/gm would want their own handpicked qb/guys anyway leading to yet another overhaul
February 7th, 2015 at 9:49 pm
We are so screwed…. for years to come.
February 7th, 2015 at 9:51 pm
OMG…this is just getting out of hand. Winston is NOWHERE CLOSE TO ANY MANNING. Never will be either.
In 5 years, Winston will not even be considered one of the top three QBs in this draft.
February 7th, 2015 at 9:55 pm
@MadMax
Lol, sad but true.
Carson Palmer- 1st round (1st overall) of the 2003 NFL Draft.
• LT-Levi Jones- 1st round (10th overall) of the 2002 NFL Draft.
• LG-Eric Steinbach- 2nd round (33rd overall) of the 2003 NFL Draft.
• RG-Bobbie Williams- 2nd round (61st overall) of the 2000 NFL Draft.
• RT-Willie Anderson- 1st round (10th overall) of the 1996 NFL Draft.
Note
C-Rich Braham was a seasoned 10yr vet (Free Agent Signing)
Unlike most quarterbacks drafted first overall, Palmer did not play at all during his rookie season; instead, Palmer learned the position during games and in practice under head coach Marvin Lewis and quarterbacks coach Ken Zampese as veteran quarterback Jon Kitna, who signed with the Bengals as an unrestricted free agent in 2001
February 7th, 2015 at 10:08 pm
Whoooooooooooaaaaaa Jameis…..Whew……..That boy!
Whoooooooooooaaaaaa Jameis…..Whew……..That boy!
Dat dat dat dat dat…….Boy!
February 7th, 2015 at 10:09 pm
Whew…….that boy!
February 7th, 2015 at 10:16 pm
@87r
@ 87
I have a pewter & red straightjaket with the number 8 being made for you:
A song for you……
They’re coming to take me away, ha-haaa.
They’re coming to take me away, ho ho, he he, ha ha,
To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time
And I’ll be happy to see those nice young
Men in their clean white coats and
They’re coming to take me away, ha-haaa!
February 7th, 2015 at 10:16 pm
Only TWO first overall QBs have won a SB in the last 20 yrs.
Both are named Manning. I dont think there has ever been a Winston. Not likely there will be
February 7th, 2015 at 10:17 pm
Thug-life is coming to Tampa, bring on the gangsta!
Cruisin Down The Street In My Six-Fo’
Jockin The Bitches, Slappin The Hoes
Went To The Park To Get The Scoop
Knuckleheads Out There Cold, Shootin Some Hoops
A Car Pulls Up, Who Can It Be
A Fresh El Camino Rollin Kilo G
He Rolled Down His Window And He Started To Say
Its All About Makin That G.T.A.
Coz The Boys In The Hood Are Always Hard
You Come Talkin That Trash, We’ll Pull Ya Card
Knowin’ Nutin In Life But To Be Legit’
Dont Quote Me Boy Coz I Aint Said Sh**
Jameis Winston is coming to Tampa!
February 7th, 2015 at 10:19 pm
Analysts that have endorsed Jameis Winston:
Bucky Brooks – NFL.com
Daniel Jeremiah – NFL.com
Lance Zierlien – NFL.com
Dane Brugler – CBSSPORTS.com
Rob Rang – CBSSPORTS.com
Charlie Campbell – Walter Football
Pete Schrager – FoxSports
Matt Miller – Team Stream
Chris Simms – Team Stream
Mel Kiper – ESPN Insider
Todd McShay – ESPN Insider
Joes – JoeBucsFan.com
Dan Kadar – SBNation (just changed to Mariota)
Scott Reynolds – PewterReport
Gil Brandt – NFL.com
Luke Easterling – DraftBreakdown.com
Other Website mocks with Winston as 1st pick:
WalterFootball
CSNwashington.com
Draftsite.com
Drafttek.com
Mynfldraft.com
NFLmocks.com
Draftbreakdown.com
DraftCountDown.com
PewterReport.com
SBNation.com (Kadar just flipped to Mariota)
JoeBucsFan.com
NFL.com
CBSSPORTS.com/NFL
Former NFL QBs that have stated preference for Winston:
Trent Dilfer
Joe Thiesmann
Warren Moon
Donovan McNabb
Shaun King
Gary Danielson
Brad Johnson
Former Players that have endorsed Winston on air:
Kirk Morrison
Keyshawn Johnson
Marcellus Wiley
Booger McFarland
Warren Sapp
Michael Irving
Donald Penn
Steve White
Ronde Barber
Derrick Brooks
February 7th, 2015 at 10:20 pm
It’s 9:20pm on Saturday night….do you know where your future franchise QB is?
Lets hope he isn’t getting ready to go out to Potbellys with his friends….if so, lets pray it goes well.
February 7th, 2015 at 10:21 pm
Jameis Winston :
Heisman Trophy (2013)
Walter Camp Award (2013)
Manning Award (2013)
Archie Griffin Award (2013)
AP Player of the Year (2013)
Sporting News Player of the Year (2013)
BCS National Championship (2014)
BCS National Championship Offensive MVP (2014)
Orange Bowl champion (2013)
Consensus All-American (2013)
2x First-team All-ACC (2013,2014)
ACC Player of the Year (2013)
ACC Offensive Player of the Year (2013)
ACC Rookie of the Year (2013)
ACC Offensive Rookie of the Year (2013)
ACC Athlete of the Year (2014)
College Football Performance National Freshman of the Year (2013)
ACC Championship Game MVP (2013)
3x ACC Championship (2012, 2013, 2014)
USA Today High School All-American (2011)
NFL 1st Overall Pick in the NFL Draft-Tampa bay Buccaneers (2015)
February 7th, 2015 at 10:26 pm
I LOVE MACABEE!
Macabee you are the man….that’s not a storm. That’s an effing TORNADO Macabee…. That’s called Wake up Little Suzie to everyone in here.
Macabee Says:
February 7th, 2015 at 10:19 pm
Analysts that have endorsed Jameis Winston:
Bucky Brooks – NFL.com
Daniel Jeremiah – NFL.com
Lance Zierlien – NFL.com
Dane Brugler – CBSSPORTS.com
Rob Rang – CBSSPORTS.com
Charlie Campbell – Walter Football
Pete Schrager – FoxSports
Matt Miller – Team Stream
Chris Simms – Team Stream
Mel Kiper – ESPN Insider
Todd McShay – ESPN Insider
Joes – JoeBucsFan.com
Dan Kadar – SBNation (just changed to Mariota)
Scott Reynolds – PewterReport
Gil Brandt – NFL.com
Luke Easterling – DraftBreakdown.com
Other Website mocks with Winston as 1st pick:
WalterFootball
CSNwashington.com
Draftsite.com
Drafttek.com
Mynfldraft.com
NFLmocks.com
Draftbreakdown.com
DraftCountDown.com
PewterReport.com
SBNation.com (Kadar just flipped to Mariota)
JoeBucsFan.com
NFL.com
CBSSPORTS.com/NFL
Former NFL QBs that have stated preference for Winston:
Trent Dilfer
Joe Thiesmann
Warren Moon
Donovan McNabb
Shaun King
Gary Danielson
Brad Johnson
Former Players that have endorsed Winston on air:
Kirk Morrison
Keyshawn Johnson
Marcellus Wiley
Booger McFarland
Warren Sapp
Michael Irving
Donald Penn
Steve White
Ronde Barber
Derrick Brooks
February 7th, 2015 at 10:27 pm
Yep. Nothing rescues a franchise more than a Byron Leftwich-Eli Manning hybrid.
Mariota is our pick. Deal with it, deniers.
February 7th, 2015 at 10:29 pm
The 87 Song!!!
They’re coming to take 87 away, ha-haaa.
They’re coming to take 87 away, ho ho, he he, ha ha,
To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time
And 87 will be happy to see those nice young
Men in their clean white coats and
They’re coming to take 87 away, ha-haaa!
February 7th, 2015 at 10:29 pm
Macabee these people are going to be like a fish that just got flung up on the dock and smacked hard against it’s floor.
Nice work Macabee.
Stay tuned kiddies…..2 months to go. The groundswell is picking up.
Jameis Winston IS coming to Tampa! Now shhhhhhhhh.
February 7th, 2015 at 10:31 pm
I see TBBF…is in denial.
Check back in 2 months and Macabee’s list will be twice as big.
February 7th, 2015 at 10:33 pm
I’m going to RJS on draft day.
I’m standing out on the corner of Dale Mabry waving my Buc flag. The wife will hold up a sign aftre the pick is in that reads We Got Jameis!
Perhaps I’ll video it and upload it to youtube for everyone. It will be JUST delightful!
February 7th, 2015 at 10:36 pm
Thinking ahead…when there’s 2 #8s in the House, how does that get sorted out? Any thoughts?
February 7th, 2015 at 10:36 pm
@ 87
Please stay away from tall buildings on draft night!!!
You may be right….but you sure are setting yourself up for a downer……there is no sure thing!!!
February 7th, 2015 at 10:36 pm
Even the Canadians think Winston’s going to the Bucs!
Dan Bilicki – Toronto Sun
TORONTO – With the Super Bowl over, we now look ahead to the next huge day on the NFL calendar: The draft. Here’s how we think the first round will shape up less than two months out.
1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State
The Bucs have the tough decision between him and Mariota, but should go with the in-state product.
2. Tennessee Titans
Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon
The Titans would be happy with either QB or go the defence route with a top lineman.
February 7th, 2015 at 10:37 pm
Lol.
February 7th, 2015 at 10:38 pm
Macabee’s list means absolutely nothing unless it includes Lovie,Licht & the Glazers
February 7th, 2015 at 10:38 pm
If he is as good as Eli of course we take him.
Super clutch two time super bowl champion.
He also makes throws Leftwich couldn’t make in his wildest dreams.
February 7th, 2015 at 10:40 pm
Rise up this mornin’,
Smile with the risin’ sun,
Three little birds
Each by my doorstep
Singin’ sweet songs
Of melodies pure and true,
Sayin’, (“This is my message to you-ou-ou: “)
Singin’: “Don’t worry ’bout a thing,
‘Cause every little thing gonna be all right.”
Singin’: “Don’t worry (don’t worry) ’bout a thing,
‘Cause every little thing gonna be all righ
February 7th, 2015 at 10:43 pm
@ Pat
Glennon will be traded so Mariota won’t even have to come up with any cash.,…
February 7th, 2015 at 10:45 pm
A Franchise Effing Quarterback in Tampa Bay!
Singin’: “Don’t worry ’bout a thing,
‘Cause every little thing gonna be all right.”
Singin’: “Don’t worry (don’t worry) ’bout a thing,
‘Cause every little thing gonna be all right
Sing with me TBBF.
Rise up this mornin’,
Smile with the risin’ sun,
Three little birds
Each by my doorstep
Singin’ sweet songs
Of melodies pure and true,
Sayin’, (“This is my message to you-ou-ou: “)
February 7th, 2015 at 10:48 pm
Where are:
Mr. Patrick, SAMCRO, gatrbuc17 ?……if you guys are out there….just sayin’ hello.
SAMCRO….haven’t heard from you in many days…..
February 7th, 2015 at 10:48 pm
Cool. Then MM8 will be pro ready by day 1. Even with a mediocre Oline, he can at least RUN. 4.48 40 yard. Not like that JF5 statue revisited.
February 7th, 2015 at 10:49 pm
@Pat
There won’t be two number 8s in the house.
If we draft Mariota, we will trade Glennon. If we draft Winston, we will have to keep Glennon as insurance.
Remember, the revised NFL conduct policy means that a player’s transgressions in college can affect his possible penalty for NFL conduct policy violations.
If we draft Winston, and he does anything wrong, he could be suspended by the NFL right away. We could lose him to suspension his first year.
There is no such risk with Mariota. Not that Mariota couldn’t do anything wrong, just that he hasn’t so far.
So, if we draft Mariota, we can safely trade Glennon, and we’ll get good value for that trade.
If we draft Winston, we have to walk on eggshells, and we have to keep Glennon.
February 7th, 2015 at 10:51 pm
A Byron Leftwhich lone with the turnovers of a Eli Manning?? YIKES! That’s o scar and dreadful combination. PASS ON WINSTON!! M
February 7th, 2015 at 10:54 pm
Jameis Winston is coming to Tampa!
Sing with me Eric….
Oh yes, I can make it now the pain is gone.
All of the bad feelings have disappeared.
Here is the rainbow I’ve been praying for.
It’s gonna be a bright (bright) bright (bright) sunshine’ day!
February 7th, 2015 at 10:55 pm
Was this supposed to be positive article on Winston?? I read it 3 times and I couldn’t find one positive thing in it about him, Byron Leftwich and Eli’s turnovers are not a positive JOE, not sure what you were trying to accomplish with this article. Are you finding it harder and harder to find a positive articles on Winston out there? If anything this just supports more of a reason to take Mariota
February 7th, 2015 at 11:00 pm
@ SuperSam
I guess you and I are the only ones that noticed that……
February 7th, 2015 at 11:02 pm
“Well, Lance Zierlein of NFL.com believes Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston is the second coming of Manning.”
Who the ef is Lance Zierlein you ask? Ask SuperSam…because he puts a lot of stock in this guy… or I’ll tell you who he is.
Lance is known for his multiple personalities and ADD that create the various characters present in the 790 AM shows. Namely: SEC Guy, Dr. Karol Kenton Kogslotter
Lance also performs impressions of sports personalities. Examples include:
“Uncle” Drayton McLane
Mack Brown and his unwavering media message
John Rocker
Charles Barkley
Lou Holtz
Oscar De La Hoya
Lance is also an active blogger for the Houston Chronicle and publishes a “fantasy” newsletter and runs an accompanying fantasy news site called The Sideline View.
Oh and his mock draft selection for #1 overall. Jameis Winston Tampa Bay Buccaneers :
1. Winston has warts to be sure, but pairing him with Mike Evans could ultimately prove to be too enticing for the Bucs to pass on.
February 7th, 2015 at 11:02 pm
87 reminds me of last year’s Joe. We all know how that turned out.
February 7th, 2015 at 11:05 pm
Research fella’s research…or you end up looking like the Lance Zierlein’s of the world.
Bwhahahahaha
“@ SuperSam
I guess you and I are the only ones that noticed that……”
Noticed WHAT? By whom? Lance Zierlein???
Bwhahahahaha
Stop it…just stop it!
February 7th, 2015 at 11:05 pm
Joe writes a feature on Winston every single day, only so much he can write about. I’ve learned my lesson from the Johnny Rehab articles last year. Don’t like ’em, don’t click ’em.
February 7th, 2015 at 11:07 pm
Actually how fitting then for the #1 pick, how but MM1? & MG8, check out this video:
http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/12/this_awesome_marcus_mariota_hi.html
February 7th, 2015 at 11:07 pm
Lance is known for his multiple personalities and ADD that create the various characters present in the 790 AM shows. Namely: SEC Guy, Dr. Karol Kenton Kogslotter
Lance also performs impressions of sports personalities.
February 7th, 2015 at 11:10 pm
They’re still holding on Jameis.
Now they are posting video’s of Mariota. This is getting good!
It will come crashing down on their heads soon Jameis.
Macabee’s list will be double that of what he posted in less than 2 months.
The groundswell will swallow up all these fans and drown them out.
February 7th, 2015 at 11:11 pm
Speaking for Pablo
“Pablo is enjoying all of these lyrics that (OC) 87 has been posting” “Pablo thought he would post one of his favorites for (ochienta y siete) 87.
Guantanamera, guajira Guantanamera
Guantanamera, guajira Guantanamera
Yo soy un hombre sincero
De donde crece la palma
Yo soy un hombre sincero
De donde crece la palma
Y antes de morirme quiero
Echar mis versos del alma
Guantanamera, guajira Guantanamera
Guantanamera, guajira Guantanamera
February 7th, 2015 at 11:14 pm
The Swami (QB guru, can’t hold a candle to Gil Brandt) Lance Zierlein’s pick at #6 on his mock draft.
#6 NY Jets – Marcus Mariota : There is a brand new regime in place for the Jets and finding a new face of the franchise should be high on the priority list
February 7th, 2015 at 11:15 pm
Pablo…in my best Eddie Murphy laugh :
Ha huh ha huh ha!
February 7th, 2015 at 11:19 pm
@87
An oldie but goodie revised by TBBF for you….
Many a tear has to fall
But it’s all in the game
All in the wonderful game
That we know as love
You have supported him
And his future’s looking dim
But these things
Your hearts can rise above
In a while he won’t get the call
But it’s all in the game
February 7th, 2015 at 11:19 pm
Okay I gotta go so….I’ll sing.
Goodnight, sweetheart, well it’s time to go,
Goodnight, sweetheart, well it’s time to go,
I hate to leave you, but I really must say,
Goodnight, sweetheart, goodnight.
Good night, John Boy. Good night, Pa. Good night, Mary Ellen, Good night Jameis.
February 7th, 2015 at 11:20 pm
Good night TBBF…behave yourself.
February 7th, 2015 at 11:29 pm
To all the winston haters….if/when the bucs select winston what are yall gonna do? Stand behind him if he succeeds or wish upon his failure and if he fails that means the bucs fail and considering yall keep suggesting he will flop and be a complete bust with it being a 50/50 chance of us taking winston or mariota seems like your putting failure on our team already I definitely prefer winston over mariota for many reasons but would stand by my team with whoever they pick even if I disagree and would not wish or suggest anybody we might draft become a bust all it does it hurt our team if they do
February 7th, 2015 at 11:37 pm
Winston is exceptional. Mariota is exceptional.
Both have a chance to be elite.
I own an NFl franchise.
Which one of these guys am I hanging my franchise on?
Get real. It’s Mariota, and you all know it. You can tilt at windmills all you want for Winston, but the pick will be Mariota.
February 7th, 2015 at 11:46 pm
You do not have to hate someone to like someone else. It is simple, I prefer Mariota over Winston. No hate there. Whoever is picked by the Bucs, then let’s welcome the new Bucs. Either One or the Other or Neither. Correct?
February 7th, 2015 at 11:57 pm
28 int / 2 years
February 8th, 2015 at 12:14 am
The guy can run, maybe not as fast as Mariota, but quick enough to get the job done. JWB! (Just Winston Baby!)
February 8th, 2015 at 12:25 am
What article? I jut clicked here for the comments, lol.
February 8th, 2015 at 1:18 am
win, it’s in his name
#winninwithwinston #justwinstonbaby
February 8th, 2015 at 1:18 am
Yea, ndog I agree. This guy is an idiot. Way more mobile than leftwitch and a better release too. What a joke this guy is.
February 8th, 2015 at 1:34 am
The easy comparison is to Leftwich because he’s not a very mobile quarterback and has a very elongated delivery.
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At least Tebow was mobile.
February 8th, 2015 at 1:49 am
Jameis Winston is one of the best college quarterbacks I’ve ever seen play the game. So is Marcus Mariota.
Jameis winston will play good football in the NFL. He will make dazzling plays that will leave you wondering how anyone could do that. He will also make spectacular mistakes that will leave you wondering the same thing.
But, Marcus Mariota will do those same things as well.
After three or four seasons, at least one of these players will have the emotional maturity to have mastered the pro game.
I hope it’s both of them.
But, if you own a billion-dollar franchise, who are you more willing to bet your franchise on with the first overall pick in the 2015 NFL draft?
February 8th, 2015 at 1:55 am
we’ve seen Winston run a pro style offense in college and he’s great.we haven’t seen him run a pro style offense in the NFL and what he does in college doesn’t mean he’ll do be able to do it in the NFL.we have yet to see Marcus Mariota run a pro style offense he could be out of this world great who says he sucks just cuz you never had the chance to do it that’s just f****** stupid.he could be the best at a pro style offense than anyone in this world we have no idea.
February 8th, 2015 at 2:09 am
Actually Im cool tho
February 8th, 2015 at 2:10 am
real Buck Bruce makes too much sense
February 8th, 2015 at 2:18 am
I wouldn’t say race plays a part in this debate as much as being a hypocrite.
Common theme in the Winston/Mariota threads: people who dislike Winston seem to hate him with a passion that causes borderline personal attacks (Such as convicting him of rape when he hasn’t even been charged). To the point that they would enjoy attacking him personally if the Bucs drafted him more than rooting for him and the team to succeed. It’s a situation where they are trying to live out the squeaky wheel gets the grease to legislate their morality on everyone.
If the Bucs drafted Mariota, I have not seen one instance where the Winston followers have said they would not buy tickets and /or root for him and the team to fail.
Then to bring Tebow into this, there’s a reason nobody wanted him after Denver acknowledged their mistake. Tremendous athlete, hardly a pro QB. If he would have been willing to play fullback or TE, would be all for signing him.
He, delusionally, thinks he’s a pro QB.
SMH…………
February 8th, 2015 at 2:46 am
True Bolt.
Tebow is announcing. He is still 9 and 7 with a Playoff win on a team that won 5 of its last 22 games before he took over.
Say it how you want he left the NFL a winner.
February 8th, 2015 at 5:59 am
87 will be the idiot crying like a baby on the corner after they trade down! LMFAO! all this crap who endorses and what beat writers think don’t mean squat!!! the card is not being turned in by them. further more these QBacks most of them did not need to mature as much as bozo#5 needs to! the kid has as many issues in the head as THIS 87 IDIOT!!!
February 8th, 2015 at 6:04 am
AND A LEFTWICH IS EXACTLY WHO BOZO#5 IS GOING TO BE NOTHING MORE!! YOU SHALL SEE!!! HAHAHAHAHA!
February 8th, 2015 at 8:24 am
Leftwich? Are you kidding me? Winston’s tiny wind-up is nothing compared to Leftwich’s… and his mobility is light years beyond Leftwich…that’s a ridiculous comparison, A Texans fan friend of mine used to live in Houston and he says Zierlein is utterly clueless and how he has/had a job was a miracle. I think I know what he’s talking about now.
February 8th, 2015 at 8:32 am
knuckledragger Says:
February 8th, 2015 at 2:46 am
True Bolt.
Tebow is announcing. He is still 9 and 7 with a Playoff win on a team that won 5 of its last 22 games before he took over.
Say it how you want he left the NFL a winner.
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He’s announcing because he had ZERO opportunities to return to the field… ZERO! You can talk all you want about 9-7 and playoffs etc, but the truth is that he was a spread option-only QB that wasn’t even as good at the spread option as some of the other guys that came a little later that could run faster and throw better (Kaepernick, RG3) and then the NFL figured out the spread option.
Following Tebow and the Broncos lead, many teams incorporated the spread/read option into a large percentage of their offenses and were wildly effective…but defenses caught on and now the read option is merely a look or a few plays a game for offenses. Tebow went 9-7 and went to the playoffs because his defense played well, teams had never seen or had to prepare for the read option, and Tebow did a DECENT job of doing it…but compare his stats to RG3’s rookie season, Russell Wilson 2012-2013, Kaepernick 2012-2013…and you can clearly see…he wasn’t even all that good at the read-option and unlike the other 3 QBs, he didn’t have a good enough skillset physically or mentally to also be successful as a dropback passer.
February 8th, 2015 at 8:35 am
the real Buck Bruce Says:
February 8th, 2015 at 1:55 am
we’ve seen Winston run a pro style offense in college and he’s great.we haven’t seen him run a pro style offense in the NFL and what he does in college doesn’t mean he’ll do be able to do it in the NFL.we have yet to see Marcus Mariota run a pro style offense he could be out of this world great who says he sucks just cuz you never had the chance to do it that’s just f****** stupid.he could be the best at a pro style offense than anyone in this world we have no idea.
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Great freaking rationale…. just because Winston has done it in college but not in the NFL tells us nothing, but just because Mariota has never done it in his life, he might be great!
Ladies and Gentleman, I think we’ve found our new punter in Demar Dotson. He’s never done it before but with his long legs he should be great!
February 8th, 2015 at 8:38 am
White Tiger Says:
February 7th, 2015 at 7:47 pm
Eli wouldn’t have two super bowl rings without Tiki Barber and that defense.
You don’t have to look beyond Peyton’s season in Denver this year to see what Eli’s fate would have been had it not been for both Barber and that Strahan led defense…
Famous wouldn’t be getting the benefit of either of them.
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Hey stupid, Tiki Barber played on NONE of those Super Bowl winning teams! Seriously? STFU!
February 8th, 2015 at 8:46 am
Of course, don’t you see what’s going on here. Find a marginal black QB to compare the up and coming black QB to. It is done all the time. This clown is the only one spewing this non sense.
February 8th, 2015 at 8:46 am
File this in the “Who the Hell Cares” folder but of all the mocks listed on http://dcprosportsreport.com/MockDraft.htm since 2/17
These are the players that were drafted #1 overall by the Bucs
Winston 43X
Mariota 15X
L. Williams 3X
Some of the mocks on here are a little more or less reliable/credible than others…but it really doesn’t matter, Winston is picked over Mariota nearly 75% of the time…. and it probably has a TON to do with the fact that he is a better player.
February 8th, 2015 at 8:48 am
VeeJay Says:
February 8th, 2015 at 8:46 am
Of course, don’t you see what’s going on here. Find a marginal black QB to compare the up and coming black QB to. It is done all the time. This clown is the only one spewing this non sense.
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My favorite one is to call him JaMarcus Russell because he’s black, has a big arm, and they think he’ll be a bust. Russell ate himself out of the league, Winston wears a flak jacket when he plays so his haters think he is “fat”.
February 8th, 2015 at 9:38 am
The better get that Suicide Net up on the Sky Way Bridge for Joe & 87 if the Bucs don’t draft Jameis….
Actually Joe will never live it down if they don’t
Johnny & Jameis
February 8th, 2015 at 9:46 am
@Brandon, give it up man. Facts don’t sway these people.
Hopefully Lovie has the sense to draft the best QB and not a project.
Draft Winston and enjoy the ride.
February 8th, 2015 at 9:52 am
Uh joe will be just fine if Winston goes somewhere else and becomes an elite QB. It will be guys like you jojo that will have to sit around and sulk
February 8th, 2015 at 9:59 am
A talk-show sports radio comedian Lance Zierlein desctribes what he thinks Winston throws like and these people come in here and treat him like he’s the authority on quarterbacks..
You guys are a trip.
MikeH…you can’t be helped and that goes for everyone else that takes stock in what this radio comedian has to say. HILARIOUS!
February 8th, 2015 at 11:16 am
Draftng a QB at #1 is the only option . No way does any frachise pass on drafting a possible franchise not to mention possiby two. All the trade down comments are fantasy. No way that happens. That will surely get both L & L fired by the end of the season.
As to which QB should be taken it should not even be a question. Jameis Winston is by far a the better prospect. He can make all the throws and can be mobile when needed. He is the most pro style ready QB in the draft. L & L have to win this year or at least show promise to get another year or they are gone. MM will need to sit for at least a few years to be serviceable.
I did a little research on MM. What really scares me is running QB are not successful in this league beacuse the talent level is so elevated. In addtion they tend to get hurt. We are talking about players much larger and faster then the typical college player. MM will get hurt and is injury prone. In 2013
he had a knee injury and 2014 a knee injury and shoulder injury. Also if you look at his losses over his time at Oregon they have come agaist very phsyical defences. Stanford Twice, Arizona and Ohio State. A major red flag. Another thing that really bothered me was in the national championship game he had a reciever drop a wide open touchdown pass. As a leader of the team I would expect him to go over to the kid and tell him don’t worry about it and encourage him. What does MM do he stands on the sideline by himself and the coach is picking the kid up. Also at the end of the game when it was clear they were going to have to come up with a drive what is MM doing standing by himself not getting his offense together talking them up. Again very disturbing. I want my QB to be a leader not one of the guys.
I want a firey QB. For me it is easy Draft Jamies. I won’t comment on the off field stuff because it has been discussed over and over. I will say one thing however on the rape charge he has been cleared by three independent agenices now. The law is based on innocent until proven guilty. Lets stop convicting the kid over and over again.
February 8th, 2015 at 11:20 am
DRAFT #5 Says:
“I want a firey QB. For me it is easy Draft Jamies. I won’t comment on the off field stuff because it has been discussed over and over. I will say one thing however on the rape charge he has been cleared by three independent agenices now. The law is based on innocent until proven guilty. Lets stop convicting the kid over and over again.”
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Long post but right on. Hard to believe people want the second best QB in the draft. When all is said and done, Mariota could drop out of the top 10 and people want him to be our starter.
February 8th, 2015 at 1:49 pm
Really comparing him to a two time super bowl champion? The kid has yet to make it to his proday work out. Too much speculation and drama lets get back to reality. Give us real facts and stories to read
February 8th, 2015 at 2:29 pm
eli would be the 4th best qb in our division. I thought the point was to get better at that position. there’s a reason that even in fantasy football eli gets drafted after all other options eliminated.oh, and as for those superbowls ,without a couple of lucky plays and a great defense , eli would have
February 8th, 2015 at 2:41 pm
LOVIE IS NOT DRAFTING BOZO#5 HE HAS A TRASH MOUTH AMONG ALOT OF OTHER PROBLEMS!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! how many times each year are mock drafts and draft experts wrong. ALOT!!!! but if they draft Winston I will not jump ship I have been a fan since they joined the league. and will always be.
February 8th, 2015 at 2:44 pm
a fan*
February 8th, 2015 at 2:46 pm
Another hypothetical….let’s say you had a choice to pickup 1 of the 2 Qbs in an upcoming draft, and you had the #1 pick. Who would you choose…Roethlisberger or Rodgers? I think it’s a win win….what do you think?
February 8th, 2015 at 2:50 pm
@PAT yes probably!
February 8th, 2015 at 2:58 pm
there is a story on our new QB coach how good he is coaching a duel threat QB which would be mariota I would think.
February 8th, 2015 at 3:00 pm
THE story is on NFL NETWORK
February 8th, 2015 at 3:01 pm
LOVIE IS NOT DRAFTING BOZO#5 HE HAS A TRASH MOUTH AMONG ALOT OF OTHER PROBLEMS!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Im glad you can laugh at your own stupidity. The rest of us are laughing at you to.
February 8th, 2015 at 3:04 pm
f**k off moron!
February 8th, 2015 at 3:09 pm
Great combat, I expect nothing less from you. Lol, I’m still laughing at you bozo.
February 8th, 2015 at 3:10 pm
come back*
February 8th, 2015 at 4:00 pm
Where is mikeh going to be the day after the draft?
The same place he is now. At the mental ward, only after the draft they might need to up his meds. Maybe some Ritalin.
Perhaps Mr. Patrick can visit him and bring him a get well soon card….
Couch…these people are in utter denial and it’s only going to get worse.
I hope Lovie comes out right before the draft and says they are in the process of signing Winston to a contract. They STILL won’t believe it.
February 8th, 2015 at 6:47 pm
no you Aholes are in denial you know it all mo fu that’s all that u pinheads come on here for to start sh** with other posters grow up idiot. free speech bonehead. ever hear of it you loser. opinions vary! so go f yourself retard!
February 8th, 2015 at 6:51 pm
combat? go play your video game punk!
February 8th, 2015 at 8:02 pm
Lol and you call Jameis a trash mouth but here you are talking like that and all I said and will continue to say is “we are still laughing at you.” Lol. Get out all the hatred you hateful little little man. …. and were still laughing at you.
February 9th, 2015 at 1:35 am
Yeah guys, lets make this about Tiki – that’s what I’d do – if I wanted to NOT talk about how Fameis is beginning to remind the experts of a cross between the wrong Manning and…Lefty.
I’d definitely try making this about something other than reality.
February 9th, 2015 at 12:15 pm
“mikeh Says:
February 8th, 2015 at 6:47 pm
so go f yourself retard!”
Classy