Dirk Koetter And Up-Tempo Offense
January 10th, 2015Among the many songs and dances Tampa Bay fans were promised by Lovie Smith a little over a year ago was that the Bucs were going to play an up-tempo offensive style.
Well, if what Lovie meant by up-tempo was Josh McCown running for his life and making some of the most ghastly turnovers Joe has ever seen, with little to no running game, then, yeah, he was right on the nose with his prediction.
To guess — and that’s really all we can do at this point — what new offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter will pump out for the Bucs, we can only go by the man’s history. Footall numbers guy Thomas Bassinger of the Tampa Bay Times put his fingers to the calculator and cast an educated guess.
In fact, the #Bucs ran a total of 111 no-huddle plays over the past three seasons, still 15 fewer than the #Falcons ran in 2014.
— Thomas Bassinger (@tbassfootball) January 9, 2015
The #Bucs ran only 52 no-huddle plays this season, 10th fewest. Koetter’s #Falcons ran 126, 10th most. PHI had most (663); ARZ least (19). — Thomas Bassinger (@tbassfootball) January 9, 2015
So, perhaps, we may finally see that up-tempo offense we heard so much about until former offensive coordinator Jeff Tedford had his heart issue. Up-tempo went out the window about the time the stents went in Tedford’s body.
Of course, here is what Bucs fans must wonder: Do you trust McCown to run any kind of an offense short of him handing the ball off to? Could Mike Glennon run an up-tempo offense?
The limited history that Glennon has with a hurry-up offense (49ers in 2013) supports the notion that he might be able to do it.
Of course, we know Jameis Winston could.
January 10th, 2015 at 3:33 pm
The only thing an up-temp offense will achieve is getting the offense off the field faster.
January 10th, 2015 at 3:34 pm
And…..if you look up…”up tempo” in the dictionary you might find Marcus Mariota’s picture….
January 10th, 2015 at 3:42 pm
TBF. Zing! Bravo.
January 10th, 2015 at 3:51 pm
Winston will have to run the hurry-up offense, with cops, and detectives chasing after him. IMO.
January 10th, 2015 at 3:52 pm
Can Lovie adopt a 12 sec offense? That’s how fast Mariotta takes between plays. Lovie might have heart complications. Glennon excels in the hurry-up. Last year we had at least 53 delay off game plays (penalties or timeouts) so Winston would probably take that # to 75.
As for schemes, after reading a few more articles and fan posts it sound like ATL benefitted more from offensive talent than scheme, dork calls waaaaay too many screen plays and overall they’re meh about the whole situation.
January 10th, 2015 at 3:52 pm
@Biff
Someone has to represent the winner of the JBF reader poll….
January 10th, 2015 at 4:04 pm
I’m getting even more excited. An OC brings more than just schemes and coaching. He brings play calling. That’s also been horrible for the Bucs. Koettler will be a HUGE upgrade in play calling.
January 10th, 2015 at 4:06 pm
I’m thinking Ttestman didn’t make the cut given the McCown linkage.
No matter, go hurry up, use the Cannon as the bridge, get the ball out quickly.
Sims would be utilized correctly IMO.
January 10th, 2015 at 4:10 pm
If anybody other than Mariota takes any regular season snaps at QB in 2015, I’ll be shocked and disappointed.
January 10th, 2015 at 4:11 pm
Who’s tge cannon? – I know a Pop-gun…
January 10th, 2015 at 4:16 pm
Joes, where’s our ‘Jameis Crime Watch’ article for today?? Lol, if he were a normal citizen, he’d probably be in prison right now….
January 10th, 2015 at 4:18 pm
Yeah, I can see squint-eyed Winston running the hurry up, as long as we display the next play on the video screen where he doesn’t take 5 seconds to focus on it.
January 10th, 2015 at 4:21 pm
http://www.bucsnation.com/2015/1/9/7520293/2015-nfl-draft-praise-and-harsh-critiques-for-jameis-winston-on-the
Tl;Dr
‘Veteran draft analyst’ Russ Lande, of GM Junior, poses the question- “Is Jameis Winston even Draftable?” Eyeing him as a “late round pick” and likening him to Jay Cutler. For they share two of the same qualities, Really good, Not great arm talent; and a tendency to hit defenders square in the numbers.
Jameis Winston can run it some where else Joe, we need to Draft Mariota and then let Koetter and his Qb coach groom Marcus Mariota into the next great Pass first Mobile Qb, even if it means we sit him for a season or two. Mariota’s ceiling is sky high man, I don’t know how you don’t see that.
January 10th, 2015 at 4:27 pm
I think I speak for all buc fans ” we don’t care what tempo it is, we just want to see any offense!”
January 10th, 2015 at 4:28 pm
@StPeteBucsFan: Agreed. The offensive playcalling in 2014 was, well, offensive. All puns aside, in 2015 the offense will very likely have much more variety, and almost assuredly will be MUCH more efficient.
–In 2015, the offense will be an asset, and not the ship’s anchor it was in 2014.
January 10th, 2015 at 4:39 pm
I could care less. As long as we score points im happy
January 10th, 2015 at 4:50 pm
Up tempo.. Oh Ya fun stuff to watch.. Love it..
January 10th, 2015 at 5:01 pm
Not sure Thomas Bassinger really gave us much insight into the offensive scheme in his comments Joe, or what type of QB our new OC would prefer. He inherited Matty Ice, and he’s pretty much a pocket passer I think, although he can move around a little.
As far as Josh or Mike running an up-tempo offense, I think either one could do it IF the OL proves to be at least average, and if our new OC plays to their abilities, which I’m confident he will. But Josh and Mike are two very different QBs in my opinion, and Marcus (after his mandatory year on the park bench) has a very different skill set than either of them.
In any event, I’m confident the Bucs will improve next year, just not sure how much. Draft and Free Agency will most likely determine that.
January 10th, 2015 at 5:48 pm
Guaranteed MM is our starter next year from Day 1 of minicamp. Why do u guys underestimate his abilities? If fn Cam Newton can have success as a rookie, then MM can succeed for sure. And Winston would be a waste of a pick, IMO.
January 10th, 2015 at 7:35 pm
up tempo offense? with those crappy o-linemen?
penalty: false start, clipping, holding.
clock stops and there are substitutions on the defense.
the purpose of the no huddle /up tempo is too not allow substitutions on defense.
how can they run an up tempo offense when the game will constantly be stopped because of o-linemen penalties?
also 2nd down and 15
3rd down and 20
too deep to run the ball with all the o-line penalties in 2014
the defense knows you have to pass.
January 10th, 2015 at 9:12 pm
I guess when you have an OC who knows what he’s doing – the play call makes it to the QBs ears with more than 15 seconds left on the play clock. Bucs seemed like they were getting up to the line with less than 10 seconds to snap all year long this last season…
January 10th, 2015 at 9:14 pm
Uptempo fits Mariota best, sorry Winston.
January 11th, 2015 at 12:46 am
The Hurry Up Offense= Hurry Up And Punt if McCown is behind center.
January 11th, 2015 at 1:17 am
Has McCown been fired yet?
January 11th, 2015 at 9:41 am
We are used to stuff like timeout as the first play after halftime. I want to see some rhythm, which requires far fewer penalties.
January 11th, 2015 at 9:56 am
Excuse me Barry but all Jameis did was steal some crab legs whoopdie freeking doo and yell some crap in the cafeteria. Again whoopdie freekin doo! As far as the other allegation that exactly what it is an allegation. I could accuse you of being a guy that knows a lot about football but after looking at your comment that would be just an allegation.
January 11th, 2015 at 10:17 am
Mark Hartsell
Ryan Perry-Smith
Tony Graziani
Bart Hendricks
Andrew Walter
Rudy Carpenter
Dave Garrard
Blaine Gabbert
Matt Ryan
These are all Dirk Koetters quarterbacks. I don’t know about you, but, I see drop back, pro-style QBs.
What are the odds that he sticks with his background, or goes in a total different direction?
January 11th, 2015 at 1:43 pm
If we want to run an up tempo offense then you draft the kid who runs the best up tempo offense. What Mariotta is able to recognize about opposing defenses in a matter of 5 seconds is far superior to Jameis having 25 seconds. No one can debate that statement…look at the turnovers and then shut your mouth. Hell it takes Jameis 5 seconds just to squint over at the sidelines in between plays.
As far as Koetter goes. We have no clue what he will do. Until they decide who our QB will be I doubt they will fully know. The odds are good (unless McCown is our QB) that we will run plenty of no huddle this upcoming season. I do think Glennon could handle it with a real line in front to protect him. I would rather have a new line and Mariotta instead of Glennon or McCown tho.