ASJ Talks Marcus Mariota
December 29th, 2014
Bucs TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins got a little excited when asked about Oregon quarterback Marcus Mariota possibly tossing passes to him.
Read into this what you wish. Sometimes, body language says more than what comes out of someone’s mouth.
Today was clean-out-your-locker-day-and-go-home day at One Buc Palace. Many players are indeed heading back to their native lands; some won’t return.
(It was a sad sight for Joe to see Mason Foster exit the locker room, probably for good, carrying his road white jersey)
Austin Seferian-Jenkins spoke to the local pen and mic club. and a thing that Joe loves about ASJ are the high standards he has set for himself. He really wasn’t overly interested in talking about the past season. Understandable, given that he was hurt most of the year and largely the season was a kick in the groin.
But then ASJ was asked about Oregon quarterback and fan favorite Marcus Mariota. When the discussion switched to Mariota, ASJ went from being bored to happy, his face lit up like Kate Upton was cooing him.
Joe has observed most Bucs fans are on all fours begging Team Glazer to bring Mariota to Tampa Bay with the first overall pick.
ASJ played for Washington (same alma mater as Foster) and witnessed Mariota up close and personal.
“He’s a good quarterback, man,” ASJ said. “He plays for the Ducks! It’s the Ducks, man. But, yeah, he’s a good quarterback. He’s a good quarterback.”
When asked how he would like to catch passes from Marota, ASJ punted, saying, “We’ll see. That’s a paygrade above me.”
December 29th, 2014 at 2:04 pm
I am surprised it is somewhat of a positive Mariota article without a mention of Winston. Are the Joe’s coming around to the idea of maybe grabbing Marcus?
December 29th, 2014 at 2:07 pm
Joe would rejoice if Mariotta’s name is called first. Bank on it.
December 29th, 2014 at 2:09 pm
lol, armchairGM.
You are right. I’m impressed Joe resisted too. Watch his do an update about winston in the article, just to pick on us 😉
December 29th, 2014 at 2:10 pm
Giving Lovie and Licht the first overall pick is like giving a loaded gun to a five year old. You just know it’s not going to end well.
December 29th, 2014 at 2:10 pm
I’m leaning toward Marcus myself. His knee worries me though.
December 29th, 2014 at 2:11 pm
@Dave Pear
How do you know that? Hmmn?
December 29th, 2014 at 2:13 pm
ASJ should just shut up and get himself strong enough to last a 16-game NFL season.
“He’s a good quarterback…..” Seriously??? This guy is a regular Sherlock Holmes!
December 29th, 2014 at 2:13 pm
I like Mariota a lot! He reminds me of Russel Wilson, but taller, faster and with a better arm. I know there are those that say that he is strictly a system QB, but I disagree. I think he is smart enough and athletic enough to play under center in just about any system. I’m certain that the day after Oregon finishes it’s season, Mariota will be on a plane to work with a top QB coach (Bradenton maybe???) to work on direct snaps, reading defenses, etc… The other great thing about Mariota, is there are no off the field or personality issues to worry about. Can’t wait to see him and Winston play Thursday night!
December 29th, 2014 at 2:15 pm
So the tank was for a QB with the first pick?
December 29th, 2014 at 2:16 pm
Joe,
Ironically this is the most positive I’ve felt about the Bucs in awhile.
* The defense truly is going to be wicked next year. No doubt about it.
* If we can get Trestman we’re cooking with steam now on offense
* Keep Lovie away from the offense. Checks and balances.
* Draft one of the two Heismans
* Make a concerted effort towards an o-line in draft and FA.
* Once you have your linemen get them on a Chip Kelly type
workaholic schedule.
* Problem solved. Bucs are now at least an 8-8 team
* Make checks payable to Howard Sports consulting services LTD
December 29th, 2014 at 2:20 pm
Tom Edrington Says
“ASJ should just shut up and get himself strong enough to last a 16-game NFL season.”
Wow. I had no idea talking would delay the recovery of injuries.
December 29th, 2014 at 2:21 pm
I would definitely love to have Mariota next year and watch him burn the league on fire! He is the real deal. Smart enough to make the transition and play under any system!
December 29th, 2014 at 2:23 pm
I think we should bring in Mariota AND a veteran.
December 29th, 2014 at 2:25 pm
Asj has been a big talker bro ur a rookie let ur game do the talking….
December 29th, 2014 at 2:30 pm
Mariota is a Hawaiian Steve Young. No need to look beyond him.
December 29th, 2014 at 2:34 pm
Lovie Smith press conference hopefully revealing some telling things going on within that shiny dome of his. Says he thinks the # 1 pick could be attractive to an OC , that he wont look over the next OC’s shoulders, believes they can win absolutely win with a rookie QB, that the Bucs need a balanced offense and all options are on the table including a spread offense, read option can be used occasionally but not all the time as using it to much get QB’s hurt, Mike Glennon has a future going forward ( no mention of him as QB of the future) and that he handled his changed role with dignity. Take all for what it’s worth, he seems more forward with his messages. I guess no need for smoke screens when you have the # 1 pick.
December 29th, 2014 at 2:37 pm
HELL no.
December 29th, 2014 at 2:37 pm
Don’t believe the sheeple they know that Winston is the better qb for this Bucs team. Take your rhetoric to, to well leave it here for other sheeple to digest.
December 29th, 2014 at 2:42 pm
Bring us Mariota!
Bring us Chud, Trestman, or Scott Frost as OC!
Bring Jim Harbaugh to Ann Arbor as my coach for the Michigan Wolverines! (not OFFICIAL… YET)
All smiles today 🙂
December 29th, 2014 at 2:43 pm
I would take Mariota, but I suspect the Eagles would be willing to pay a king’s ransom to get him back with Chip Kelly. To me, these are the best choices:
Draft Winston
Draft Mariota
Trade down (probably with the Eagles) for a surplus of picks and/or a couple good players.
December 29th, 2014 at 2:43 pm
Trestman?
That’s a horrible move IMO. Bears have better skill players then we do now and the offense was nearly as bad. How about recruit someone with a current program that has had success, not a retread from a failing stint. So stay away from Bears ties basically.
What’s funny is everyone on this board doesn’t mention the Bears offensive success when Lovie was there is his last few years. Not saying he’s some guru but Forte, Cutler and Marshall did pretty damn well when he was there.
December 29th, 2014 at 2:46 pm
Lovie has had one top 15 offense ever, and that was with the original RG3 running the show. So no, the offense was still awful under Lovie even with Forte and Cutler and Marshall.
December 29th, 2014 at 2:49 pm
Joe prefers QBs like Johnny Manziel.
December 29th, 2014 at 2:53 pm
Patrick
The offense was bad this year because of Jay Cutler unfortunately… He clearly has not grown up or just rubs every coach he has played for the wrong way.. He made Josh Freakin McCown (ya that same one we signed… ugh) look like a HoF QB in the 8 games he played in 2013… He also made Jimmy Clausen look like a professional NFL QB as well..
@Joe
How do you justify Winston being a better prospect than Mariota? I mean 17 picks in a season(with atleast 1 more game) in that piss poor excuse of a league called the ACC? I’m not a big stats guy either but man when you have that many INT’s in college imagine playing professional defenses? I know he had an amazing year in 2013 but so did Mariota…
December 29th, 2014 at 3:06 pm
Joe you will come around just like you jumped off the MGM bandwagon and onto the tank bandwagon you will come around on Mariota.
December 29th, 2014 at 3:06 pm
@Bucbonzai: You can have ASJ and his wonderful observations and I’ll take Nick O’Leary every day of the week and twice on Sundays…..ASJ loves the tub, O’Leary is nothing but tough.
December 29th, 2014 at 3:10 pm
NJBucsFan Says:
Mariota is a Hawaiian Steve Young. No need to look beyond him.
It’s called an interview! And he answered a reporters question. Man! some of you are just arse wholes. Support your 2nd rd pck instead of endless bashing over nothing. Not every player is a pro bowler there rookie year. Support your dam team for once instead of bashing a rookie for being hurt,missing training camp because of college rules. shshh
December 29th, 2014 at 3:13 pm
Sorry, wrong post
Here is right post:
nate Says:
Asj has been a big talker bro ur a rookie let ur game do the talking….
It’s called an interview! And he answered a reporters question. Man! some of you are just arse wholes. Support your 2nd rd pck instead of endless bashing over nothing. Not every player is a pro bowler there rookie year. Support your dam team for once instead of bashing a rookie for being hurt,missing training camp because of college rules. shshh
December 29th, 2014 at 3:15 pm
Hopoefully Mariota is more committed to be a Pro than ASJ….
December 29th, 2014 at 3:16 pm
Mariota is the only way to go. If he isn’t there it’s because he decides to stay another year, but he won’t stay. Winston should stay another year though and work on his image.
December 29th, 2014 at 3:17 pm
Since it is a “Buc’s Life” how about a bit of history.
Bucs first round Quartback selections through the years
1978 Doug Williams
1987 Vinny Testaverde (First overall pick)
1994 Trent Dilfer
2009 Josh Freeman
If history is any indicator we are 1 for 4 or a 25% success rate in QB selections.
December 29th, 2014 at 3:33 pm
Quite simple. Mariota runs a spread-option. Winston runs a pro-style offense. Joe has yet to read a former NFL scout/GM type that Marota’s skill set is better than Winston’s in an NFL offense. No need for Joe to type anything more.
December 29th, 2014 at 3:34 pm
Look at how skinny MM is…..he’ll never play a full 16 game season in the league and you can take that straight to the bank
December 29th, 2014 at 3:35 pm
My favorite part of the year: the off-season, when everything is “looking up”! Year after pathetic year…….
December 29th, 2014 at 3:49 pm
@Joe
Still doesn’t explain the 17 picks in a season.. Last time I checked decision making is a skill set in the NFL and a big one..
The spread offense works in the NFL especially the one the Oregon Ducks run.. Hello Mark Sanchez and Nick Foles.. Also Johnny Manziel ran a spread offense in college and you loved him last year?
I’m not saying Jameis isn’t a good prospect because he is but to give an EMPHATIC HELL no to warming up to Mariota is ludicrous to me atleast… Mariota is no Denard Robinson, Jordan Lynch, or Tim Tebow. The kid clearly has an arm and can sling it..
December 29th, 2014 at 3:56 pm
Let’s be honest, there are no QBs in this years draft worth the #1 overall. Joe knows this, I hope. Licht should turn this pick for multiple picks and a QB. McCown, Glennon, or Cutler will be your 2015 starting QB.
December 29th, 2014 at 3:57 pm
A lot of people might want to dismiss Mariota’s high-completion percentage in favor of Oregon’s spread offense, which has inflated quarterback numbers in the past.
But it’s hard to argue that Marcus can’t make every throw on the field. While he might not possess the elite arm strength that Winston has, ball velocity and placement is where he truly excels.
Add that to his mobility outside of the pocket, and he’s the ultimate dual-threat quarterback. This season, Marcus has thrown 38 touchdowns to just two interceptions. TWO!
But it’s Mariota’s mechanics that make him elite. He has a good sense for pressure in the pocket, and has a quick, but fluid, release that helps him drive balls with force, even while taking hits.
That said, Jameis is an impressively accurate quarterback in his own right. However, he does suffer from inconsistency, especially with throws over the middle.
Who’s the more accurate passer?: Marcus Mariota
December 29th, 2014 at 3:58 pm
CreamsicleBananaHammock Says:
December 29th, 2014 at 3:34 pm
Look at how skinny MM is…..he’ll never play a full 16 game season in the league and you can take that straight to the bank
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How do you figure? He is only 15lbs lighter than Winston. That is nothing. So Winston won’t last either.
December 29th, 2014 at 4:01 pm
ONE OR THE OTHER JUST GET ONE OF EM, DAMNITT MAN QB 1st pick edge rusher second then Oline come on man
December 29th, 2014 at 4:02 pm
You gotta read the article from Elite daily: http://elitedaily.com/sports/marcus-mariota-jameis-winston-number-one-pick/892198/
Stronger Arm – Winston
Accuracy – Mariota
More gifted – Mariota
Pro comparison – Winston
Leader – Mariota
December 29th, 2014 at 4:03 pm
“But what separates Mariota’s running ability from anyone else in the nation is that it’s truly his last resort.
He goes through his entire progression, makes the read and then hits the hole with no mercy once he knows the defense is sleeping.”
December 29th, 2014 at 4:04 pm
“With his unique skill set at 6’4″and 220 pounds, Marcus Mariota has been often compared to 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick.
Likewise at 6’4″ and 230 pounds, many say that Jameis Winston’s game resembles Steelers Super Bowl-winning quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.”
December 29th, 2014 at 4:06 pm
JOE*****(It was a sad sight for Joe to see Mason Foster exit the locker room, probably for good, carrying his road white jersey)
you talk like a serious fan with no kind of insight into the bucs whatsoever…probably for good? that’s how you report news? I guess you believe theres some lavonte david type impact player at middle linebacker in this year’s draft because you can’t keep bringing in big money free agents at key positions
are we gonna get some of your brilliant draft evaluations because everyone here has a draft board, I know you have one joe
December 29th, 2014 at 4:30 pm
Joe has spoken with suits who work at One Buc Palace about Mason Foster. You?
Joe has spoken — on the record — with Leslie Frazier who told Joe that Foster is not a good fit for outside linebacker in his defense.
Hell, even Foster admits he may not be back, even though he wants to stay.
December 29th, 2014 at 4:33 pm
Here is what Lovie had to say about an OC.
“We’re keeping all options open, from spread looks to – we just want to be able to run and pass the football when we want to and when we need to. If we mold this Tampa Bay Buccaneers offense together, it’s not like I’m going to be over the guy’s shoulder saying do this, do that. I’ve given a lot of offensive coordinators that I’ve had a lot of full range to implement their system.’’ -Lovie
December 29th, 2014 at 4:33 pm
He said spread looks….Mariota
December 29th, 2014 at 4:34 pm
Jimbo claims only six picks were Winston’s fault, i.e. freshmen running wrong routes, etc. Besides, most of these happened in first half, right? Tells Joe he can adjust on the fly which is a helluva attribute.
Oh, and there’s the whole never-lost-in-college thing. Joe likes that, too. Also likes how he is an alpha male on the team.
Spread-option quarterbacks spook Joe.
Conclusion: Joe wants Jameis.
December 29th, 2014 at 4:36 pm
@admin
HE HAD TALKED WITH SOMEONE ABOUT MASON FOSTER THEN HE WOULD’T HAVE SAID (PROBABLY)
December 29th, 2014 at 4:50 pm
Those who are talking about JW’s interceptions are probably the same ones that were clamoring for Brett Favre, not comparing the two, but the gunslinger threw lots of int’s. As far as Foster goes, keep him and go after Miami’s Denzel Perriman.
December 29th, 2014 at 4:53 pm
King Lovie is probably gonna screw us and either trade for Cutler sorry self and sign Trestman as the OC or gonna trade the first pick for someone that will never pan out.
December 29th, 2014 at 5:15 pm
^^Walter,
I think he would alienate more fans by doing that. Why would we want to turn into the Bears?
December 29th, 2014 at 5:22 pm
Man he’s got skinny legs. One thump from Mason Foster (when he get’s picked by a winning team) will knock him out for the season. If we go QB, take Winston.
December 29th, 2014 at 6:08 pm
Joe says:
Spread options Qb’s spook you? Really? Really? And last year you were clamouring for Manziel who ran Kevin Sumlin’s spread offense. Joe I just think you like the headline grabbing, needle moving Qb’s.
December 29th, 2014 at 6:26 pm
I agree Marcus has a higher chance of injury due to body type…Just think of Sue hitting the guy….OUCH!! Honestly, Winston is the higher rated QB …he has four Months of interviewing to prove it and I think he will.
December 29th, 2014 at 6:47 pm
As long as we take one of these 2 QBs w/ the 1st pick – I will be happy. No trading down. The Bucs have a rare opportunity to draft a franchise QB and no other move makes sense. We will always have “needs”. Every year there are holes to fill and sometimes they are glaring (like the Bucs right now). But the hardest thing to find in the whole NFL is a good QB (much less great). We have a pretty sure shot at a good QB who may well become a “great” QB. Is there risk? Of course. The higher the pick – the bigger the risk. Time to role the dice on a potential franchise QB.
Both the 2 top QBs are legit and worthy of being top draft picks IMO. So glad we didn’t take a QB last year as I don’t believe any QB drafted in the last 2 years will ever be a top tier QB. There’s a decent chance that both Mariota and Winston will have very good if not great NFL careers if the teams that draft them can develop good offensive systems with good offensive players around them.
My opinion is that Winston will be a better NFL QB – but what do I know? Yes I’m a life long football fan – but that doesn’t mean I am qualified to make such a decision. Nobody posting here is qualified and neither is Joe.
I’m glad that people who are actually paid by the Bucs will be making the decision as to which QB is the best for what we want to do moving forward.
If they trade the pick – I will not be a happy camper though – despite whatever “King’s ransom” another team is willing to pay for the chance we “earned” by suffering through such a horrible season (on top of 5 previous bad seasons).
It’s been 3 years since the Rams traded away the rights to RG3 for a bunch of high picks – and they have yet to have a winning season. So even though RG3 has not turned out to be as good as was assumed coming out and the Rams evidently made the “right decision” – they still are not that great of a team – and until they find a good QB who can stay healthy – they will not be contending for a Super Bowl anytime soon.
December 29th, 2014 at 7:16 pm
I still don’t think it’s going to be a QB – maybe the reason they couldn’t keep Tedford (no big loss, but they kinda did commit to the guy) – Lovie’s reserving the 1st overall pick for a coveted (by him) edge rushing DE?
I’ve heard how Mariota is attractive because of what he WON’T do off the field…but the MOST that will do is not distract the team on Sunday’s. I’ve herd how Winston excels at ‘reading defenses’ – but those were mostly ACC defenses but I remain unconvinced. I haven’t seen a spread-option QB come out ready to read NFL defenses. I’m also not real sure Lovie Smith is still all that married to a conversion to a read-option offense…not after the number of injuries that particular offense opens your starting QB up to hits/injuries…and with our current o-line (or lack thereof), that would only compound the problem.
Nope, to me…it spells too much risk for a guy like Lovie Smith.
I’m thinking it’s pretty obvious (if you’re Lovie Smith), it’s either a RDE or LOT at the top of this years draft…
December 29th, 2014 at 8:33 pm
Its funny how posters talk about not trusting Lovie & Jason w/ the No. 1 pick, but they are the same HC & GM that picked Mike Evans, one of the best rookies in the league.
December 29th, 2014 at 10:36 pm
Mariota is the real deal, Winston is quality also. When you actually see what MM can do on the field you will go “WOW” seriously, drafting Marcus would have no regrets and I will be the first in line to buy a MM Bucs jersey after hearing his name called next May. Please don’t let Tennessee get him…BTW Helfrich has had MM taking snaps in practice from center all year, his work ethic knows no bounds, you should be proud to make him your QB. food for thought.
December 29th, 2014 at 10:39 pm
White Tiger Says:
December 29th, 2014 at 7:16 pm
I’m thinking it’s pretty obvious (if you’re Lovie Smith), it’s either a RDE or LOT at the top of this years draft…
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No way dude. If the Bucs don’t pick a QB – they better get a boat load of high picks in trade for the #1 if they don’t want to see angry mobs holding torches and pitchforks surrounding 1 Buc place…
Picking an OL or DL player with the 1st overall pick when there are 2 really good QBs available would be the last straw for many Bucs fans – and I think the owners know that…
December 29th, 2014 at 11:20 pm
ASJ was the typical looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. Wasted 2nd round pick and when he caught that 2 yd TD, he acted like he had never scored before. His biggest play was the fumble that cost the Bucs in OT. Talk less and show us more on the field.
December 30th, 2014 at 12:53 am
Well, I think the Texans and their number 1 overall picks; 2006: Mario Williams, over Vince Young, Matt Leinart,and Jay Cutler. In 2014: Jadeveon Clowney over Blake Bortles and Johnny Manziel.
All of the QB’s were a lock…Mario Williams, got Charlie Casserly fired…but Charlie was right…
December 30th, 2014 at 4:29 pm
Winston may be more experienced at playing in a pro-style offense but, Mariotta is more experienced at playing in a ridiculous-looking uniform.
BTW, the top rated DE is from Clemson – No thanks!!